Bush Admits Al Qaeda Wasn't In Iraq Before Invasion: "So What?"
By Steve Hynd Monday Dec 15, 2008 6:00pmUn-fricking-believable. Bush, talking to ABC's Martha Raddatz, does a Cheney on the lies leading up to the Iraq invasion and the messy misadventure of the occupation:
BUSH: One of the major theaters against al Qaeda turns out to have been Iraq. This is where al Qaeda said they were going to take their stand. This is where al Qaeda was hoping to take–
RADDATZ: But not until after the U.S. invaded.
BUSH: Yeah, that’s right. So what? The point is that al Qaeda said they’re going to take a stand. Well, first of all in the post-9/11 environment Saddam Hussein posed a threat. And then upon removal, al Qaeda decides to take a stand.
Dubya and his whole administration are determined to spin the whole of the last eight years as "ancient history". Raddatz should have thrown out her script at that point and eaten him alive, but she didn't. Yet another failure of the tame media, who are too afraid of losing their precious access to ask the obvious questions even now. Ian Williams of The Guardian laments the paucity of journalistic backbone on display:
With a few notable exceptions like Helen Thomas, Bush's press conferences have not generated the indignation he so richly deserves from a largely quiescent White House press corps that needs government inspectors and Congressmen to tell it when it can be surprised and even occasionally indignant.
In a parochial way, one can understand why the press corps lacks indignation over Iraq's 100,000 civilian dead and over two million external refugees, plus untold more internally displaced.
But it is still surprising that so many reporters can be polite and deferential with someone who has turned the US Federal Reserve into a giant Ponzi scheme and broken the world's strongest economy. They defer humbly to someone who has contrived the deaths of 4,200 US servicemen and women in Iraq. It even failed to follow through on questions about the president's murky military record with the Texas Air National Guard while his peers were dying in Vietnam. This intrepid press
corps showed no compunction in following in minute detail Clinton's screwing
around, but kept silent as Bush screwed entire nations.Last week, a Senate report pointed the finger directly at Bush and his senior officials for authorising - indeed, ordering - torture and abuse of detainees. But no one threw any shoes.
It is that fawning quiescence that allowed Bush to tell Bob Woodward: "I'm the commander – see, I don't need to explain – I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the president. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation."
I'll give the Newshogger's Journalist of the Year Award to the first reporter to say to Dubya "You're the President, so what? You work for us, you're not the king."
Crossposted from Newshoggers
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in Iraq is NOT barbaric and therefore OK?
Or perhaps you are using a heavy dose of sarcasm here. Either way, you have posted this four times. What's with that?
He knew all along, of course, and now he mistakenly admits it. Too late as grounds for impeachment, but suitable for criminal prosecution? How about summary execution?
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Is how you can sit on your high horse and dictate to others how they should feel and act. It's a matter of choice. The right to make the decision for yourself. Personally I've been growing further and further away from abortion. But it all comes down to choice. It's every individuals right to make that choice. Simple as that.
Do you think he's deliberately not telling us that Al-Qaeda WAS in Austin, Texas while he was governor or did he just, plain forget to mention it?
No, no, no, you can't jump to a guilty verdict, the George Putz way of doing things. You've go to do it by the book.
First, you arrest and rendition.
Then you interrogate, using waterboarding as needed. Putz says it's not torture, so it's okay to use it on him.
Then you take the information gained through waterboarding as well as the facts, and send Putz and the neo-convicts to the Hague where they are tried according to the burdens of proof that Putz said was enough at Guantanamo. strong>Finally, after some/most/all are convicted, you execute.
Of course, the facts alone would be enough to guarantee conviction and a death sentence for George Putz. The question is, would anyone (e.g. Obama) have the decency to send the neo-convicts to the Hague?
Unfortunately, most Americans still believe the lie that American leaders don't commit war crimes, so it may never happen.
No, no, no, you can't jump to a guilty verdict, the George Putz way of doing things. You've go to do it by the book.
First, you arrest and rendition.
Then you interrogate, using waterboarding as needed. Putz says it's not torture, so it's okay to use it on him.
Then you take the information gained through waterboarding as well as the facts, and send Putz and the neo-convicts to the Hague where they are tried according to the burdens of proof that Putz said was enough at Guantanamo. strong>Finally, after some/most/all are convicted, you execute.
Of course, the facts alone would be enough to guarantee conviction and a death sentence for George Putz. The question is, would anyone (e.g. Obama) have the decency to send the neo-convicts to the Hague?
Unfortunately, most Americans still believe the lie that American leaders don't commit war crimes, so it may never happen.
No, no, no, you can't jump to a guilty verdict, the George Putz way of doing things. You've go to do it by the book.
First, you arrest and rendition. Then you interrogate, using waterboarding as needed. Putz says it's not torture, so it's okay to use it on him.
Then you take the information gained through waterboarding as well as the facts, and send Putz and the neo-convicts to the Hague where they are tried according to the burdens of proof that Putz said was enough at Guantanamo. Finally, after some/most/all are convicted, you execute.
Of course, the facts alone would be enough to guarantee conviction and a death sentence for George Putz and all at BushCo. The question is, would anyone (e.g. Obama) have the decency to send the neo-convicts to the Hague?
Unfortunately, most Americans still believe the lie that American leaders don't commit war crimes, so it may never happen.
No, no, no, you can't jump to a guilty verdict, the George Putz way of doing things. You've go to do it by the book.
First, you arrest and rendition. Then you interrogate, using waterboarding as needed. Putz says it's not torture, so it's okay to use it on him.
Then you take the information gained through waterboarding as well as the facts, and send Putz and the neo-convicts to the Hague where they are tried according to the burdens of proof that Putz said was enough at Guantanamo. Finally, after some/most/all are convicted, you execute.
Of course, the facts alone would be enough to guarantee conviction and a death sentence for George Putz and all at BushCo. The question is, would anyone (e.g. Obama) have the decency to send the neo-convicts to the Hague?
Unfortunately, most Americans still believe the lie that American leaders don't commit war crimes, so it may never happen.
So what? SO WHAT? I throw my shoe at you, bush dog!
Look at his face: Bush has the classic dead eyes you see in serial killers. There ain't no body home.
Little by little, W seems to be gradually MORE honest about his intentions on going to war. He's beginning to sound more like Dick Cheney after he was asked in an interview by Diane Sawyer a few months ago that the majority of America (and the world) disapprove of the war in Iraq.
Now, how unconstitutional are such war crimes based under pre-emption? Is this really worse than when Nixon bombed Cambodia and Vietnam in the midst of the Cold War?
Nixon bombed Cambodia during a hot war. Yes it was illegal, but at least he didn't start the damn war. That was Johnson following JFK, who despite getting us into Vietnam and nearly starting WWIII is fondly remembered as one of our "best" presidents. Go figure ...
So What.
These people's goals are a lot different than what many people think.
They use propaganda to achieve their goals. I'd imagine if you asked the average American, they'd have trouble listing an instance of propaganda they are subjected to. The Neo-Cons and the PNAC organization are not operating under the pretenses of what is in the best interest of America or what is right according to the law. These are business men achieving business goals and succeeding wildly.
"These people's goals are a lot different than what many people think."
Interesting group of name at the bottom of the PNAC's Statement of Principles (per their website)
PNAC (Project for the New American Century
Statement of Principles
June 3, 1997
American foreign and defense policy is adrift. Conservatives have criticized the incoherent policies of the Clinton Administration. They have also resisted isolationist impulses from within their own ranks. But conservatives have not confidently advanced a strategic vision of America's role in the world. They have not set forth guiding principles for American foreign policy. They have allowed differences over tactics to obscure potential agreement on strategic objectives. And they have not fought for a defense budget that would maintain American security and advance American interests in the new century…
Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz
to the journalist who follows up with his shoes.
They've always said that good reporting takes a lot of shoe leather. This guy just proved it.
That says this idiot has an IQ of 125.
Privilege can buy anything, like phony test scores.
But mostly what i want to say, is that this in your face kind of cowboy
attitude, this arrogance, is why the whole world hates this man.
There will be parties the world over the day he leaves office.
I don't see where they got that IQ number for W either. Web ads and solicitations can sure be annoying and distracting!
Post It notes over part of my screen. It works!
Maybe this ad is propaganda?
It put's the idea out there that W is smart.
Now will you buy what they are selling?
The idea that W is of gifted intelligence.
BUSH the onward christian soldier. he does NOT care it's "mission accomplished". they got what they wanted for many years the oil and an influence on the arab world.
May a plague of rabid lice take up residence in your nose hairs.
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.
Fuck off, George Bush.
Just go away. You are a disgrace.
No 'just go away.' He & his cronies deserve to be tried for their collective crimes.
Disgrace?! Big time. This is not a time to let it fade away.
We let JFK's, RFK's, and most likely MLK's murderers just go away. We let the Iran-Contra criminals just go away. We let the election thieves just go away. We let the Anthrax killers just go away. We let Bin Laden just go away. When are we going to stop letting these people just get away.
That is a weak attitude of just hoping the criminals will go away. Bad things don't just go away. You have to face them and and force them to go away. Look at the Catholic Priest scenario. They didn't go away until people stood up against them. And now they are doomed to shame never to get away with their crimes outside the scrutiny of light.
In America war criminals, chickenhawks, and thugs are free to walk the streets long after their crimes. Henry Kissinger and Bill Kristol come to mind but I know there are many, many others.
to ask such a question is Jon Stewart. I join Ron Howard in begging Jon to conduct a W-exit interview. It's the only way we'll ever get some real reporting (yes, that's directed at you, MSM cowards).
bush to st.Peter at the gate: "Open these gates 'I' want in!"
st.Peter: "SO WHAT?"
Please...like he's even gonna make it that far.
It's completely sad when school children I've met can analyze the facts that none of the 9/11 terrorists came from Iraq. Al Qaeda and Bin Laden weren't even there; they were over in Afghanistan. And a fourth grader can observe that this whole thing was a complete failure. And yet, what do we do? Our illustrious Pres, the Decider, sez we should detour and invade Iraq. I was in Korea before 2003, and I watched this whole thing unfold, day after day. I'm no four-star General, but I know military history. Never divide your forces unless you truly have a terribly shrewd objective first. And then, reconsider that you should never divide your forces. Bin Laden was still on the loose. Why the hell then did we invade Iraq? I observed then, and still lament that this whole thing was an extremely risky and an ill-guided venture that would only reap nothing but trouble. And here we are. But even if I had been in that inner circle to decide with the decider back in 2003 at the eve of war, like General Shinseki, I probably would have been asked to leave too.
Of course 710 being OIL upside down.
The oil companies think they have Iraq sewn up, but as soon as the US leaves there, all hell will break lose and at the minimum the Iraqis are going to nullify the US oil contracts.
A contract made under duress, ie at the gun point of an occupying military force is not legal, no court in the world would uphold it.
just curious
Hopefully its in the queue of stories to come. Thefts of that magnitude have a tendency to be overlooked. As Bob Dylan said. Steal a little and they'll throw you in jail, steal a lot and they'll make you king. Or something to that effect.
The International Court of Justice in the Hague. Case closed.
where we are not a member. As much as I cream in my jeans envisioning that day, it is something which will never happen.
Well Obama needs to make it a priority to join as the great diplomat many expect him to be.
Well Obama needs to make it a priority to join as the great diplomat many expect him to be.
Sorry for the double post, please delete the prior post. I'm getting a posting error in Firefox today I've never seen before.
"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity... the country behind this propaganda is the U.S."
- Robin Cook - Former British Foreign SecretaryThere are conspiracies around us. There are people plotting to overthrow the government. There are people planning to steal our tax dollars. There are people looking to utilize our military to steal natural resources of other countries. Yet we don't question them oftentimes due to a fear of being labeled a conspiracy theorist. Wake up.
"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
-- J. Edgar Hoover"The great masses of the people . . .will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one."
-- Adolf Hitler"Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity."
-- Marshall McLuhanPlease don't let people pretend to be ignorant any longer.
"So what."
2 little words that say so much.
ARREST THAT MAN!
So what? Well, I have to hand it to Dubya. He doesn't and never has given a shit. And no one ever tried to stop his crap during his entire Administration. So what, indeed.
You nailed it.
And many people are still too polite to address the true crimes of this man and his administration.
Spoken like someone truly above the law...
Always the arrogant asshole.
Bush is "pro-life" right? .... I mean, pro-life means valuing human life, right? Someone explain this one to me...
That's an election year farce.
Muntadar al-Zaidi Did What We Journalists Should Have Done Long Ago
His ass is being beaten over there for standing up to Bush and we are too cowardly or polite or comfortable or pathetic to even stick with the Anthrax story long enough to get some answers or demand some or expose that they are dodging the story. We are impotent. We are cowardly. And it god damn pisses me off. We talk about what is acceptable to talk about and shy away from that which may stir controversy. This guy who throw his shoes deserves our admiration and should serve as an example to us about what it is like to risk your safety for your beliefs and for your honor and your country etc. I'm so sick of this shit. We or this blog can't even stick with the Anthrax fucking story. We are weak. We are pussies.
We deserve someone to look us in the face and say "so what". we probably deserve worse.
OK where are my shoes?!
Too bad all of the media didn't start throwing their shoes at him, now that would have been righteous.
Thats exactly what I wish had happened!
either voted for him, or were too distracted by whatever our favorite distractions are to do enough to stop him in 2000 or 2004.
As I watch my country implode before my eyes I think back on the last 8 years, and after having fumed with anger against this grade-a creep and his minions for years I'm starting to look at myself, and the responsibility I have in this mess. It's easy to blame those who supported him, and claim we were powerless, but in fact few of us did enough. And now he can smirk while saying "so what" about the world-class war crimes he's committed.
The beheadings, the innocent people pulled off of vans and shot in the head, the neo-nazis shooting women and children and then bragging about it, the man still kneeling on the ground, his hands bound behind him, the top of his head blown off and his brain lying on the ground next to him, we all bear some responsibility for this, and the sooner we let that realization moves us to more than posting on blogs, as, yes, I am doing, the sooner we can--perhaps--achieve some justice for what we as a people have created, and begin to repair the damage.
Don't expect Obama to wave a magic wand and fix it all. In just six weeks his administrative choices have already shown that we may see nothing more than half-measures.
Bush's casual statement that al Qaeda was not in Iraq until the U.S. illegally invaded that country should constitute an admission that the United States committed a war crime by invading and occupying that country as well as crimes against peace and crimes against humanity. It should also be pointed out that war crimes have also occurred when the U.S. illegally invaded and occupied Afghanistan [such as the bombing and killing of innocent Afghan civilians], a country that, like Iraq, never threatened anyone in these United States. Yet despite these atrocities that have happened, Barack Obama has decided that his administration will not go after the Bush administration for the crimes that they have committed against the Iraqi and Afghan people, which would seem to indicate that despite Obama's claim, little change will take place when Obama take office in January of 2009.
Change one can believe in? More like more of the same coming down the pike.
So what?....roughly a million DEAD Iraqi civilians. Tens of thousands injured for life.
So what?....roughly FOUR million displaced Iraqi civilians. Many will never be able to return, or would never want to return to what is there waiting for them.
So what?....roughly 4200 dead and mangled American military; tens of thousands injured and maimed for life.
So what?....BILLIONS of dollars wasted on a needless war in Iraq. Osama BL is still roaming the hills in the region because we spent our force in a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
So what?...we haven't been attacked since 9/11...but we sure as hell were attacked ON 9/11....on his watch.
So what?....get a rope. I want this SOB to see the same end as Saddam Hussein and Adolf Hitler...his cousins in crime.
What an ignorant son-of-a-bitch! So what?
We were attacked with Anthrax just prior to the passage of the Patriot Act. Our representatives in government, Daschle and Leahy, were both subjected to Anthrax that was produced in American U.S. military labs. Still no one has been held accountable for this.
For those who didn't see this, google cache still has this piece from the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch see link
From the article, remember the first anthrax letter was not even mailed until Sept. 18, 2001. A coincidence??:
FBI & BUSH ADMINISTRATION SUED OVER ANTHRAX DOCUMENTS
Judicial Watch Wants to Know Why White House Went on Cipro Beginning September 11th
What Was Known and When?
and delusional too!
"Well, first of all in the post-9/11 environment Saddam Hussein posed a threat."
Stop. Right. There.
What threat did they pose to this country? How has our invasion made life better for this country or their country, considering the violence that has resulted and left the country in far worse shape than before 2003?
funny how according to Powell and Rice, Saddam didn't pose a threat to the US before 9/11....
Stupid Arrogance:
It's not just for breakfast anymore.
Note...
Yet another thing I won't miss when The Poo-flinging Chimp has exited, stage left:
His filthy habit of interrupting a question with one of his neanderthal "Yeah"s.
btw..."becoming defeated"? God, please, make it end. Get this flaming moron out of my sight. JANUARY OR BUST.
Let's hope Obama has the balls to prosecute all these crooks and liars.
1. Love the lie and lie the love
Hangin' on, with a push and shove
Possession is the motivation
that is hangin' up the God-damn nation
Looks like we always end up in a rut (everybody now!)
Tryin' to make it real — compared to what?
2. Slaughterhouse is killin' hogs
Twisted children killin' frogs
Poor dumb rednecks rollin' logs
Tired old ladies kissin' dogs
Hate the human, love that stinking mutt (I can't stand it!)
Try to make it real — compared to what?
3. The President, he's got his war
Folks don't know just what it's for
Nobody gives us rhyme or reason
Have one doubt, they call it treason
We're chicken-feathers, all without one gut (God damn it!)
Tryin' to make it real — compared to what? (Sock it to me, now)
4. Church on Sunday, sleep and nod
Tryin' to duck the wrath of God
Preacher's fillin' us with fright
Tryin' to tell us what he thinks is right
He really got to be some kind of nut (I can't use it!)
Tryin' to make it real — compared to what?
5. Where's that bee and where's that honey?
Where's my God and where's my money
Unreal values, crass distortion
Unwed mothers need abortion
Kind of brings to mind ol' young King Tut (He did it now)
Tried to make it real — compared to what?!
Always dug this song-Mose Allison does a great version
Bush and Cheney both said so what and Americans just take it. Yes look for Law Makers to do something when they are being paid to do as their told by the White House. Now people are all over Obama to do something. Speaker Pelosi got paid and said the Impeachment was off the table and we should pray for the President. Where was the out cry then, like sheep Americans did nothing. Even an Iraqi had guts to stand up and do something. Why should Obama do anything against Bush/Cheney when Americans let it go on for 8 years. Even this recession is blamed on Clinton or Obama while Americans just keep on giving Hank Paulson any thing he wants without having to answer to anyone. We allow Bush/Cheney to make this mess it's our responsible to do something about. Stand up and get the crooks out of office instead of complaining about it. The way Americans acts Bush/Cheney could continue to be in Office and nothing would be done.
Gore won in 2000. SCOTUS awarded Bush the office. Since he had no business being the incumbent in 2004, his second run for the office was a sham, and awarded him by Diebold, whose voting machines stunk up the state of Ohio.
He never won a majority of the votes, and the majority of his time in office has been met with stringent disapproval. But he's been acting as a unitary leader, answering to no one.
Don't come here and rewrite history. "The People" as in the majority, never wanted this walking, barely talking POS as pres. It's insulting.
When my son was born, I realized what love was.
When I look at this smiling pile of shit, saying, "So what" over the deaths of hundreds of thousands, I realize what hate is.
People should throw horseshoes at this punk wherever he goes, for the rest of his life.
You think he's proud he killed 2 million people so far in Iraq and Afghanistan? Remember the woman he executed in Texas, remember he tortured animals as a boy. I bet he is.
May he rot in hell.
I bet during the course of his presidency as people attempted to explain things to him he said "Yeah, that’s right. So what?" quite a bit. Its not arrogance, its stupidity compounded with arrogance.
I bet during the course of his presidency as people attempted to explain things to him he said "Yeah, that’s right. So what?" quite a bit. Its not arrogance, its stupidity compounded with arrogance.
Since Buch has such a disregard for loss of human life at his doing, why should we regard his with any favor? I don't condone violence against him but seek Justice be served on him. He will certainly think it is torture and hell. Imagine for the first time in his life, he would be held accountable.
I have a dream!
to send old stinky shoes a a big bag of pretzels to the son-of-a-bitch as a little "buh-bye, see ya' in church" present. Hope he chokes.
Get a pair of nasty old shoes (thrift store, dumpster, buy 'em off a homeless person, or root around the house/garage), and send them with the bag of pretzels to his new address. Imagine if a million people do that, it just might make the news.
double-posted
Notice how bush stooped to reminding her that there hasn't been another attack in the US since 9/11? - and his pathetically week attempt to thereby take credit for that very fortunate fact?
He must depend on logic like that all the time judging by the success of his administration.
Bush figures all he has left to do now is a few weeks of pitiful squirming and he's free to go golfing. A few more non-sequiters and "so what"s, and then he can fade away from view, and be forgotten. Of coarse this way, he has hopes his horrendous crimes will be forgotten too.
I don’t feel comfortable being an accessory to mass murder. Do any of you?
This is the man who has said, "So what?" to every inconvenient fact he has ever encountered in his miserable life.
If Al Qaeda martyrs believe they get seventy virgins as their reward in the after-life for soldiering for God, I wonder what the Burning Bush has to look forward to after supervising the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens . . .
Seventy horny, old, gay former heavyweight boxers with sharp-edged body-piercings, perhaps?
If my language seems a little rough, just go back a couple of lines to that bit about dead Iraqi citizens and reflect a bit.
I know we have all been saying it for years, but f**k this guy is an idiot. F**king war crimial a**hole.
I know we have all been saying it for years, but f**k this guy is an idiot. F**king war crimial a**hole.
now i understand where palin received her motivation.
...but so what????
...al qaida chose to take a stand in iraq???
doesn't he remember the flypaper logic?
al qaida was behind the pre-9-11 uss cole bombing, then 9-11 10 months later, so how can he say that saddam was the post 9-11 threat?
is this guy the devil?
i hope every american mails him a shoe for christmas, or at least a lump of coal.
he better be put on trial.
ohhhh. i am in such a tither.
there is no place like home
there is no place like home
now i understand where palin received her motivation.
...but so what????
...al qaida chose to take a stand in iraq???
doesn't he remember the flypaper logic?
he was the one that said iraq would be the front, not al qaida.
al qaida was behind the pre-9-11 uss cole bombing, then 9-11 10 months later, so how can he say that saddam was the post 9-11 threat?
is this guy the devil?
i hope every american mails him a shoe for christmas, or at least a lump of coal.
he better be put on trial.
ohhhh. i am in such a tither.
there is no place like home
there is no place like home
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank all the citizens of the P.D.R.U.S.A. who worked so hard to give us
Bu$h: So what!
Cheney: So!
Two great public servants.
Leaders of The Peoples' Democratic Republic of the United States of America, or two more "Dear Leaders."
All of this is too late. It has been well known for some time, before he was re-elected in 2004 i.e. "The Price of Loyalty" by Ron Suskin, written from official White House documents and testimony of Paul O'Neil, former Secretary of the Treasurer for the 1st 3 years of Bush. Long before 911 he planned to invade Iraq and overthrow Sadam. It is way too late. All of the American people have been sleeping for too long now, waking up a bit too late.
Did you read O'Neils book. I saw a interview just after his book came out, then, I saw another interview later, they got to him.
the MSM should be held accountable and put on trial as being complicit in the last eight years and even before that. Murdock and everyone else should be charged with treason and failing to protect the American people, and very honestly, every world citizen we have damaged or destroyed.
the MSM should be held accountable and put on trial as being complicit in the last eight years and even before that. Murdock and everyone else should be charged with treason and failing to protect the American people, and very honestly, every world citizen we have damaged or destroyed.
Never too late to impeach, sure he's gone in a month, but he can still be impeached after he is gone, been done before, needs to be done again ro bush
the MSM should be held accountable and put on trial as being complicit in the last eight years and even before that. Murdock and everyone else should be charged with treason and failing to protect the American people, and very honestly, every world citizen we have damaged or destroyed.
take your god shit, and F off. if you are pro-life, good for you, but I don't want to here your shit. you are just like bush.nut case.
What a petulant little smart mouthed prick!
Just give me five minutes in the ring with him Santa, that's ALL I WANT for xmas!
No gloves, no rules...just five minutes UFC style.
No, getting him in a ring would not be worth it, but, seeing him in a STSTE prision, life for every person killed in Iraq. I am sure he would PC UP.
that nobody else can't wish for him to be tried and sent to prison, lol...
I just want to pummel that ignorant smirk off of his fuckin face.
Good god...I will never forgive the GOP, the PNAC, and all the other neo-con slime fucks for foisting this asshole upon the American people and the world.
They should all be tried for treason!
out of their asses, like kool aid drinker above and repeat them long enough for them to think its rational thought.
i see from pols bush has a job rating of 27% to 30%. just where are they getting these numbers. out of there ass.
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search C&Ls archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight.com (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
Link: http://www.thenextright.com/jon-henke/democra...
Thanks, all.
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search C&Ls archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight.com (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
Link: http://www.thenextright.com/jon-henke/democra...
Thanks, all.
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search C&Ls archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight.com (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
Link: www.thenextright.com/jon-henke/democrats-ques...
Thanks, all.
GW Bush will be judged VERY harshly by future historians, and so will the compliant media and the asshats who voted for him.
The only solace I can find in Bush's presidency is that he helped cause the inevitable downward spiral- and hopefully permanant collapse -of conservatrism and the Republican party.
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search C&Ls archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight.com (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
Link: doubleu-doubleu-doubleu.thenextright.com/jon-henke/democrats-question-republican-patriotism-again
Thanks, all.
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search C&Ls archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
Link: doubleu-doubleu-doubleu.thenextright.com{slash}jon-henke{slash}democrats-question-republican-patriotism-again
Thanks, all.
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search C&Ls archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
Link: doubleu-doubleu-doubleu.thenextright{dot}com{slash}jon-henke{slash}democrats-question-republican-patriotism-again
Thanks, all.
I have heard Republicans call for the arrest of anyone who questioned Bush and/or the war-
But now that some of the Republicans are speaking out against Bush and the war, it's okay.
It's not anti American when THEY are doing the critising.
In fact, some Republicans assert it was the Democrats who wanted this war.
What angers me as that in such arguments, Democrats often let the Republicans bully them, by buying into the fascist tactic of equating dissent with anti-Americanism- hence the tendency of the Democrats not to hold Bush accountable- and thus being enablers in his corrupt time in power.
Now Republicans lament Obama will have TOO MUCH power, even though they had no problems giving Bush dictatorial power.
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/promos/DISS...
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search C&Ls archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
www{dot}thenextright{dot}com{slash}jon-henke{slash}democrats-question-republican-patriotism-again
Thanks, all.
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search C&Ls archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
www{dot}thenextright{dot}com{slash}jon-henke{slash}democrats-question-republican-patriotism-again
Thanks, all.
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search Crooks and Liars archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
www{dot}thenextright{dot}com{slash}jon-henke{slash}democrats-question-republican-patriotism-again
Thanks, all.
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search Crooks and Liars archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
www{dot}thenextright{dot}com{slash}jon-henke{slash}democrats-question-republican-patriotism-again
Thanks, all.
I need a few examples (of the hundreds) of BushCo or GOP "pudits" questioning the patriotism of folks who questioned their actions over the past 7 years. I'm going to search Crooks and Liars archives to grab many, but I am sure there will be plenty I will miss.
There is a poop-for-brains over at NextRight (I try to read some conservative blogs for alternative viewpoints and to see what the bozos are saying) is spewing that Dems are playing the patriotism card over the automaker loan/bailout (some are, which is kind of embarrassing), and has coupled it with "the GOP never did such a thing!" when I called them on it (GWMustGo is my ID over there).
www{dot}thenextright{dot}com{slash}jon-henke{slash}democrats-question-republican-patriotism-again
Thanks, all.
I still must ask the question;
Is this guy so damn stupid as to believe anyone believes his lies anymore?
He's not even a good liar, checking the things that he has said during his time as president is as easy as typing his worthless name in YouTube.
It's one thing to be a liar and a hypocrite, it's another thing when your lies are so incredibly transparent and ridiculously easy to disprove yet you continue telling them and changing them and seriously expect people to swallow your bullshit.
I dont believe Jr is really as stupid as we like to make him out to be, what he is however is shameless and possibly demented, hell when that guy threw his shoes at him he never stopped smirking. I am begining to think this bastard is really insane.
sociopath...he's a goddamn sociopath...
sociopath...he's a goddamn sociopath...
BTW...firefox users...to avoid multiple posts, when you get the error message, click "ok"...then refresh the screen, it should show your reply.
It works for me.
stupi 'puters!
Time for me to ask a moderator to erase aaaallllllll the dupes I made. (this is soooo embarrassing.)
He just doesn't care. He knows we know what he has committed. He just finds it easier to deny things than to argue about it and he doesn't care what we think. He doesn't care what people think.
yup, that donggone 'librul media!
just when I think that *********************************** can't be any more arrogant....he is.
what did they call the anthrax thingie at the time?
and why can no reporter call him out on that one?
no human has physically sickened me as this evil being has repeatedly with his complete lack of compation
As Gary Cole would say, "yeah....ummm I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that".
I really don't think it has to do with being polite. Both the public and the media are complacent. They were taught from a very young age that questioning authority is unamerican. Believe in the system and never veer off the path, they're told. This all goes back to the civil rights era of the 60s when the government realized that it's going to have to use whatever means necessary to silence dissent. In today's environment it's become impossible to say anything critical without being branded a "terrorist lover" or an "anarchist". People are conditioned from a very young age to see things through that prism.
It takes foreign born journalists like Michael Ware, Lara Logan and the Irish interviewer who grilled Bush a few years ago, to ask the tough questions.
how much and how deeply the people in the Middle East must hate and despise this man after all he has done to them. I sit in my comfortable home and nearly retch and weep watching that smug worm with his smirk, who never recognizes how much he has screwed up things here and abroad. This man is loathsome and continues his scorched earth policies to his last day.
how much and how deeply the people in the Middle East must hate and despise this man after all he has done to them. I sit in my comfortable home and nearly retch and weep watching that smug worm with his smirk, who never recognizes how much he has screwed up things here and abroad. This man is loathsome and continues his scorched earth policies to his last day.
how much and how deeply the people in the Middle East must hate and despise this man after all he has done to them. I sit in my comfortable home and nearly retch and weep watching that smug worm with his smirk, who never recognizes how much he has screwed up things here and abroad. This man is loathsome and continues his scorched earth policies to his last day.
Watching the "Christmas Card From the White House" video fiasco just made me sick. I couldn't stand watching the Bush Family sit there with straight faces talking about how they loved spending the holidays with the family. My thought was "But what about the families of the 5,000 men and women in the military and the 100,000+ Iraqis who were killed in Bush's war. Those families would probably give their life just to have one more Christmas with their loved ones. Merry Christmas President Bush."
... if Al Quaeda wasn't already in Iraq, then logic says that they weren't responsible for 9/11 and logic then dictates we ask the question: WHO WAS???
www.zeitgeistmovie.com
Watch it with an OPEN MIND.
... if Al Quaeda wasn't already in Iraq, then logic says that they weren't responsible for 9/11 and logic then dictates we ask the question: WHO WAS???
www.zeitgeistmovie.com
Watch it with an OPEN MIND.
... Al Quaeda wasn't already getting up to it - they were only planning, then logic begs the question, "Who then is responsible for 9/11?" Bush makes it clear here that the invasion was not a response but an attack. He's also (finally) been clear that Saddam Hussein was an after-the-fact issue....
So...
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Bush is an idiot and every jerk water that voted for him TWICE is an idiot. If the dems do not investigate him for crimes against humanity I will be greatly disappointed. It will lead to further dummies to follow his lead w/o regard to life if they let he go back to Texas without punishment.
Unless bush is punished, they will follow Bush's lead, in droves - and oh what an infection that will become in a few more years... democracy rests on a knife edge.
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