That DHS domestic-terror report isn't about the Tea Parties -- it's about the Poplawskis
By David Neiwert Wednesday Apr 15, 2009 8:00am
One of conservatives' least endearing social traits is that It's All About Them. Always.
In the video above, you can see everyone from Rush Limbaugh to the usual Fox talking heads ranting and whining that the recent internal Department of Homeland Security intelligence report on right-wing domestic terrorists was inspired by government fear over today's Tea Parties.
As if. Do any of these people have any idea how long it takes to compile this kind of threat assessment? Ah, but how can we forget? On Planet Wingnuttia, all the world revolves around them and their serial dumbassery.
Minnesota Independent has a wrapup on all the right-wing bloggers who leapt to the assumption that the DHS report was aimed at the "tea parties."
Then there's Lou Dobbs:
He's so certain it's All About Him, he even put up one of his fake polls asking if someone like himself might be a domestic terrorist:
Our poll question tonight is: Do you think a person concerned about borders and ports that are unsecured, illegal immigration, Second Amendment rights or returning veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is likely or even possibly probable, as the Department of Homeland Security suggests to be a right-wing extremist? Yes or no. Cast your vote at LouDobbs.com. We'll have the results here later in the broadcast.
OK, here's a cluestick for the wingnuts: This report, and the timing of its release, is not about Tea Parties. It's also not about Latino-bashers, except to the extent that Latino-bashers like Dobbs get the serious haters all worked up.
It's about Richard Poplawski. And the dozens, if not hundreds, of little latent Poplawskis out there, waiting to pop off and kill more police officers, or just as likely, a crowd of innocent bystanders.
Of course, you all would like us to forget about Richard Poplawski as soon as possible, wouldn't you, given the mainstream right's culpability in that case?
The Department of Homeland Security more than likely couldn't give a rat's patoot about today's right-wing Tea Tantrums, because they're mostly exercises in futility and stupidity anyway.
But I'll tell you who they do care about: the people in uniform who go out every day and put their lives on the line to keep you and I and our families and neighborhoods safe -- that is, the men and women in law enforcement. People like those three officers in Pittsburgh, who had no reason to suspect a killer was about to ambush them.
A recent study by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism lays out in painful detail the very real threat that right-wing extremists pose to people in law enforcement:
Research led by Dr. Joshua D. Freilich (John Jay College, CUNY) and Dr. Steven Chermak (Michigan State University) and funded by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START) has revealed a violent history of fatal attacks against law enforcement officers in the United States by individuals who adhere to far-right ideology.
* In the United States, 42 law enforcement officers have been killed in 32 incidents in which at least one of the suspects was a far-rightist since 1990.
* 94% of these incidents involved local or state law enforcement. Only two events—high-profile attacks at Ruby Ridge and at the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City—involved federal agents. Much more common are events like the tragic Pittsburgh triple slayings.
* Attacks on police by far-rightists tend to occur during routine law enforcement activities. 34% of the officers killed by far-rightists were slain during a traffic stop, and a number of law enforcement officers have been killed while responding to calls for service similar to the domestic violence call that precipitated the Pittsburgh murders.
* Firearms were the most common type of weapon used during these fatal anti-police attacks. 88% of the incidents involved guns, while only 6% involved explosives and 6% involved knives. 81% of the victims were killed by guns.
* Only 12% of the suspects in these attacks were members of formal groups with far-right ideologies. The vast majority—like Poplawski—acted alone. This greatly complicates law-enforcement efforts to anticipate which individuals might pose a threat to police officers.
* Beyond these law enforcement murders, far-right violence presents a broader threat to national security and American citizens. Since 1990, far-rightists have been linked to more than 275 homicide incidents in 36 states. These crimes have resulted in the more than 530 fatalities, including the 168 victims murdered by Timothy McVeigh when he bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. The vast majority of these suspects are white and male, with almost 70% being 30 years old or younger.
So please, wingnuts, enjoy your little exercise in narcissism today. Because no one really cares.
Just don't whine so loudly when the adults in the room go about their business without paying you a lot of attention. Really, it's not all about you.
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We've seen this play before, of course. Remember when the Branch Davidian standoff was about the government targeting peaceful Christians?
Nothing to do at all with a cult leader who stockpiled automatic weapons and slept with the under-aged daughters of his followers.
Or that his cult was planning to rob banks and kill hundreds of innocent people in order to force the police to attack his compound triggering the end of days.
Or that after his deaths his remaining followers believed he would rise up from the dead and lead them again.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/dc_branc3.htm
Who initiated the violence in the Branch Davidian situation?
As if listening to Limbaugh spew his nonsense were not humorous enough, there is Lou Dobbs and his blustering, someone-defecated-on-my-pizza blather. We all need to understand one fundamental principle of Wingnuttiness: There are extremists only on the left. The right is 100% principled, balanced, and under control.
That is exactly what they are trying to project, the conservative tea party movement is calm and non-violent. While showing the homeless and starving as left wing. This information battle is not working, you here me Alex. The fuckwads on TV need to go, WTH is going on, somebody better do something.
Personally, I would like to have seen the report address the effect of right-wing hate and fear mongers on AM radio and FOX on these right wing extremists. They are pouring gas on these lunatics and handing them matches as far as I am concerned.
that do address that, but we aren't privy to just yet.
that do address that, but we aren't privy to just yet.
Double postage!
soon.
State Senator and County Commissioner Tim Sheldon cuts law enforcement, urges citizens to give "lead enemas":
http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2009/apr/10/she...
to watch an elder gentlemen like Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh really faltering in their declining years.
It's worse to watch troubled people like Glenn Beck fighting their inner demons right there in living color in our living rooms.
If only there were government services for these people.
I find it freaking hilarious. It's like a "Daily Show" that writes itself, as they pretend to live in a land where "The Great Repudiation" simply didn't happen.
If only there were government services for these people.
But right-wingers are against government services so they wouldn't use them. Government money should only go to prisons, police, and the military, and even those should be privatized, dontchaknow.
you're RIGHT. I lost my head! Oh nooo...I'm a socialist!!
Oh gawwd...what should I do...is there a 12 step program for this??
Should I tea bag myself?!?
Help me...ohhh...help meeeeeeeeee!!!
are you a contortionist?
If I was...I'd never leave the house!
I would think you have little problem or really serious problems finding dates.
with that kind of...skill. ;)
for the rightwing, it is ONLY a government service/handout if they, themselves, aren't on the receiving end. if they ARE on the receiving end it isn't a govt service, it is their god-given right
i believe david cay johnston has a book about this (Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (and Stick You with the Bill))
yes im sure in thier time of life [er not some young snotts] they need a caretaker to help them find thier way to the banks to deposit thoes big bucks on payday!
I think Dobbs, Limpballs, Buck, ect. should be required to piss in a cup before every show to prove they are not on drugs.
What I mean is that if they are clean. then this wingnut shit babbles out of their brains on its own accord. Drugs would explain a lot.
is enough money to keep poisoning themselves with junk food and junk thoughts and the meds to keep them alive to do so. Man that's really living isn't it? Swallowing handfuls of meds everyday just to be able to bitch and gripe about anyone who has a different opinion and how miserable they are because of LIBRULS!
give drugs a really bad name.
Please say hi to Mr. Moose for me.
;-)
You do know that there are good durgs and bad drugs.
The drugs these assholes probably take are brain steroids that backfired.
New product that could come in Green?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrl5sYmApcI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pJjHe3csEU
the conservatives are trying to see how good they are at online "community organizing" and mobilizing whatever sheep they have left that haven't already been sheared and sent to the butcher.
if enough tea is left lying around that it leaches into the ground water, it could become a public health nuisance. Would that be considered an act of terrorism?
we should just round up the ususal suspects, Greenpeace, Code Pink, and those dangerous people who ran naked down 8th Avenue during the 2004 Republican convention with their blood curdling cries of "Save the Children."
Nudity does give one a leg up on the teabagging exercises.
of having dropped trou.
A new product for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrl5sYmApcI
Ah. the feeling of freedom!
Do NOT sit on a wooden bench!
... weren't these the very same voices of reason who saw nothing wrong with the concept of 'homeland security' - which ignored federal law, weakened habeas corpus, weakened Constitutional protections, and sought 'moral clarity' as they tortured suspects?
... weren't we told "If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."?
... wasn't it Just Fine And Dandy when DHS was looking into those tree-hugging, Hummer-burning, EarthFirst radicals and illegal immigrants pouring over the border?
So excuse me if I'm not overcome by an abundance of sympathy now that the American version of the Cheka has come home to roost in your yard.
It also proves that they don't believe in a two (or 3) party system.
I'm surprised none of these right-wing hosts have accused the DHS intelligence report researchers of being jealous of the tea party promoters. That's a common right-wing line, too.
Kinda like when Clinton warned of hate on the air, after the Murrow bombing, but without specifying the internet (possibly ham radio.) limpballs et al screamed Bubba was trying to silence them.
Maybe that day he could mustard up to being wry.
"If your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide."
who now suffer from Obama Hatred syndrome. Fortunately those of us who suffered from Bush Hatred syndrome drank the powerful Kool Aid vaccine before the wire taps caused our heads to explode while our free speech was being impeded back in the early oughts.
Actually Obama Hatred Syndrome is only a SYMPTOM of a greater disease: Angry White Man Syndrome.
whats all this, then? Iran has gotten too uppity and needs to be attacked? rich people are pissed off because they have to give their taxes to a black president? was a little preoccupied with something else, but the important thing is, taxes are due and WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT!
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to target IRS offices on the West Coast we would have been spared this bothersome protest burden today.
Yeah the taxes that are a smaller percentage of their income that they have paid in their whole lifetime. They aren't going to take it anymore, damnit!
but I keep glancing at North Korea.
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must be my ADHD
Just ask Green Jeans.
sure ya betcha.
The little orange pills are the best. Morphine Sulfate 60mg.
that those nice young boys who work at the bank shouldn't have to pay their taxes this year to that awful awful uppity negro......
is that it?
in a written note while wearing a ski mask and toting an armed weapon.
You can see North Korea from your house? };)>
This is a sheer sign that Winguttia is full of people who have no clue what it is they are or what they stand for anymore. It's just loud noises in response to a logical and thorough report.
more here
I am Scared of White People
since the Obama administration has only been in office for less than 100 days, was this report prepared by his DHS people or was it prepared by the Bush DHS?
if it was Bush DHS which started this, how has Obama exceeded the Bush recommendation, what does Greenwald have to say, and where is my PUMA pin?
Watch out because they will knock you down on your gnees. I hope you have a gknife with you.
Waht do these right wing gun toting Beck and Hannity and Limbaugh induces haters think they are going to accomplish by shooting policemen in the head? It is really ironic that they think that they are one with the armymen in Iraq and Afghanistan and the cops on the streets and the CIA and Blackwater (Xe) assholes. They shot up a few cops in Oakland and Pittsburgh. Who do they think these coppers and CIA wannabes are going to side with? The Timmy McVeys and Richard Poplawskis and the Glenn Becks (who induce these idiots) or the people who just want to live their lives and have a job and have a home? These nutcases will be taken out in about ten minutes if they start what they think is a revolution because 99.9999965 of the population hate these assholes and will protect themselves from them in a heartbeat. And we will have the coppers and the military on our side. We have guns too.
The Department of Homeland Security more than likely couldn't give a rat's patoot about today's right-wing Tea Tantrums, because they're mostly exercises in futility and stupidity anyway.
Yes, but these people - fueled by hatred, intolerance, racism and disinformation - are one step away from putting on brown shirts and becoming a danger to society.
The next thing you know they will be fretting about their phones being tapped by the government!!
Hello. Anybody there?
Now we know why Obama is not rolling back the Bush invasion of privacy policies!!!! Where are all the trial lawyers when we need them.
since we all know Dobbs is a domestic terrorist, it would have been fun to flood the results.
But since he's a liar and a fake. he only puts up pretend results.
...for his pretend TV show so that he can keep the very real paycheck coming in.
Because these baffoons know that they are partially responsible for ginning-up the hatred and violent reactions from militia-style groups.
So they have just told us all that they feel they ARE a part of the problem DHS is talking about.
It's an admission of guilt.
we didn't even have to waterboard them to get it out of them.
Captain Kangaroo says; "the shot up a few cops in Oakland" - please don't fall for the rightwing bullshit that the cop killer in Oakland was in any way political. He was a parolee, violating his parole by having guns, and went crazy and shot the cops at a traffic stop because he didn't want to go back to prison. The right is trying to paint him as a liberal terrorist.
I live in Oakland, BTW.
that kid in Pittsburgh's mom was really faking the dog piss on the floor.
... by Lake Merritt.
I adore the lake. I live up by the Berkeley border. We wanted to live by the lake but couldn't afford a house there.
carried mail around there and miss it so.
I love how the right tries to politicize EVERYTHING that happens in this country.
Crops failed? Liberal conspiracy!
Divorce running rampant? It's the LIBERALS who are at fault!
Rightwing extremists killing cops? ALL THE LIBERALS FAULT!
I mean WTF?
Karl Rove is unindicted.
It's a shame to see the threat of terrorism still being hyped and pushed on society even though the US is under new official leadership.
How is this new fearmongering of the "left"/"progressives" or whatnot any different than the fearmongering of the NeoCons and Bushco?
It seems all too likely that it has the exact same function: spread fear, get more of what is focused on (namely: terror), keep people in a state of irrational and aggressive thinking, spread distrust among people, divide and separate people to protect the corrupt establishment. All the while weakening democracy and promoting the need for continued unconstitutional policies like illegal surveillance, growing the police- and nanny state and giving power and money to corporations and politicians who are after just that: power and money.
Wake up, people! We are being manipulated once more. If anyone need more proof that the "left" is being played for fools by the same itnerests that played the "right" for fools, it's this. Strong interests NEED terrorism to continue.
It's soooo easy to spot it when it's them "others" being manipulated innit? Yet soooo hard to spot it when it's happening to "our side".
Propaganda. Not exclusively a thing of one political faction or group.
Shoot, my stance on security is the same: we're doing it all wrong. I don't care if it's left-wing, right-wing, God Squad, or space aliens.
Security has to be flexible and in-depth, and it has to be fail-safe.
- Flexible: Just as defensive positioning in sports responds to and anticipates an opponent, our security strategy needs to do the same. Playing 'catch the magic phone call' is ridiculous.
- In-Depth: Again, this is like sports. Your defense covers overlapping zones.
- Fail Safe: Your strategy absolutely has to be prepared for one getting through. In the case of terrorism, that means we need evacuation/mobilization plans, and properly funded and equipped first responders.
I like to think of it in military terms: overlapping arcs of fire.
... because most people enjoy baseball or football.
It gets past the 'why do you hate the troops?' crowd when you start criticizing security strategy.
Notice that no matter how you respond to Lou Dobb's question (either yes or no), you seem to be agreeing that the Homeland Security report "suggests" that folks with those views are right-wing extremists?
Is one of the most hypocritical persons on the news media..He takes an issue and bends it into something to attack Obama and the democrats with , no matter that the democrats had not a thing to do in creating it..
Lou Dobbs claims to be an independent , yet all his messages come out to be kissing the a... of the republicans...
Lou Dobbs takes events which people do not like and twist them into meaning something about Obama and the democrats , like this economy which was born and raised by the fiscal incompetents of Bush and the republicans...
The damage they have done to the citizens and our country will take many years to correct if at all possible.
They have proven with out a shadow of a doubt that Corporations have no business controlling the policies of this country , but need to be supervised with an Iron Hand..
Their only concern is to steal all the resources , power and wealth as quickly as possible before anyone else can get a share..
Under their policies which have been carried out by the elected officials of our government they have created more hate against our citizens and country then one could have believed..
They are like a cancer and now control our government and the policies forced on us each and everyday..
If the idiots hadn't moved that far to the right, they wouldn't be suspected terrorists.
Come on, you have the pedo whining about how all libruls should be murdered except for one in each state so that the good "conservatives" can mock them. You then have coulter whining about killing libruls, so does nazi boy (aka insanity).
They are the party of extreme fringe groups and claim to be mainstream. That's how they get away with calling anything left of Mussolini "far left loons". Hell, the jerks are trying to turn Hitler into a librul. The question I would be asking is, how far left are they positioning Hitler? If they claim Hitler is only "center left", then they can be just a tad more insane than Hitler to be "moderate" and "mainstream". IF they position Hitler as a "far left loon", then their plans are obviously to become seriously more deranged than they already are.
Good point. When a person is so far right that even HITLER looks left wing, you know that they've gone off the deep end into Planet Wingnuttia.
UBERfascists, all of them!
Did someone hurt their feelings...
It is OK for the republicans to attack democrats and anyone which do not agree,,, with their hate , crimes and destruction toward others and our country ,,,, But do not say a word about them ,, because then you are the one they blame for their actions..
dobbs should do a poll asking his viewers whether or not homeland security should be targeting anyone who's ever worn a turban. i bet you'll find the baskets these jackasses put their eggs in are few and filled with hate for anything they don't perceive as normal in their especially narrow world view.
hate America? Just asking.
They're misguided, closed minded and have a parochial view of the world.
The America they THINK they live in, exists only in the picture books they read as youngsters and limited recollections of their grandparents and parents...who grew up in a world where black people knew their place and were hardly seen, immigrants were rarely encountered and their only involvement with the government occurred when their government checks arrived.
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Yearn for the days when a dog could piss on the carpet.
Lou Dobbs is a twisted old fruit who should know better.
...good god, she went on with a stream of drivel and nonsense and non sequiturs, didn't she? That was really scary!
she spewed out everything she had crammed in that brain of hers.
It was like watching a toilet overflow.
The report never mentions conservatives or republicans. The report talks about right wing extremist groups. Timothy McViegh and other hater groups come to mind. If Lou Dobbs and Rush Limpdick are not proposing McVeigh type terrorism I don't think they have anything to worry about. They may be looking for a fight.
NO Lou Dobbs you are not a domestic terrorist you SIR are just a big fat ASSWHOLE
Shame the way he wrapped every rightwing talking point into his stupid rants.
Rush Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs are enemies of the USA and I hope as such, that they are arrested for promoting hate crimes as well as subversive activities, along with violence against Barack Obama and other administration officials.
These two men among others like Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage, and Scarborough, all belong in handcuffs and in orange jump suits.
Remember when Randi Rhodes had to defend herself against the private military corporations in court? Rhodes ultimately won her court case, but if she was not exempt from the law and laws, what makes these right wing jerks so special, as to evade the legal system?
Yes, the "men" I mentioned above need to be arrested now!
http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/i...
At least some libs have a bit of common sense left.
Tin foil hats, pitchers of Kool-Aid and cans of wingnuts for everyone! Itls quite a party!
Acorn, Code Pink? Did they blow up a federal building?
That shrill Malkin wanna be wingnut Andrea Whatsherface was really tough to watch Quit whining we had and election. and not one that was stolen. The people have spoken. America, love it or go Galt bitch!
I'm still waiting for the companion document on Leftist terrorists.
Again, even Rolling Stone figured out that it's political nonsense.
http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/i...
Let me know when Code Pink, Acorn or some radical tree hugging group kills and injures hundreds of Americans while doing this to a federal building http://olbroad.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/ok...
they're just making themselves insignificant. I wouldn't be worried at all about the Republicans if America had a more socially-conscious, non-ignorant, citizenry but then you have dumbsh*ts like Poplawski and the damn teabaggers.
I hate lou dobbs.
Lou Dobbs is a hate monger and racist who covets the angry white males and white nationalists, to view his show.
Dobbs is an enemy of all humankind and all peoples. Dobbs like many of his ilk, cloaks his racist views in "fighting illegal immigration."
All of them, repugs and dems alike, the putrified MSM, our entire twisted parasitic sham of government fall into a giant sinkhole so we can live our lives.
Goddam waste of time and energy. All of this.
The Texan white supremacist William Krar, had an arsenal that included more than 500,000 rounds of ammunition, 65 pipe bombs and remote-control briefcase bombs, forged DIA and U.N. ID's, and almost two pounds of deadly sodium cyanide which he intended to release in Manhattan killing thousands.
He also had coded documents which indicated that he and others - who were never caught - intended to carry out attacks in multiple cities across the country.
Not to mention wackadoodles like Demetrius "Van" Crocker who tried to purchase C-4 plastic explosives & ingredients to make a sarin nerve gas bomb. He's openly stated that, "it would be a good thing if somebody could detonate some sort of weapon of mass destruction on Washington, D.C."
How are these goobers any different from the nutjobs in the Middle East who pull this kind of crap?
Anyone in the corporate media, or on the Rightwing who makes excuses, or is dismissive, or casual about the threat those rightwing extremists pose, are giving aid and comfort to the "enemies of America" just as much as if they'd made an, "Al Qaeda isn't so bad" video.
... as always, David, but I'm curious of something. Since you've said that you're a student of fascism and mentioned the pathological narcissism of the right in this post, have you read the book "Malignant Self Love: Narcissism Revisited" by Sam Vaknin?!? Much of the material in the book is available for free online by just googling for Sam Vaknin's name as the book itself is just a compilation of Vaknin's essays on the subject of Narcissism, but it is just as powerful and much more exhaustive than Holfstadler's "The Paranoid Style In American Politics". I think it would greatly compliment your future endeavors.
The threat of violence from the Right seems just a matter of time before something really awful happens. This makes me wonder why aren't the cops using their tasers on these crowds? They didn't seem to have a problem using them on college kids and several other very obviously harmless people raising their voices in protest during Republican speaking engagements. This has got to have something to do with that vast left-wing conspiracy that has taken over the media and all that.
Maybe they are assembling peacefuly. Ya think? I have not seen any violence during the protests today. Have you? Not even in the evil southern states.
...that not all terrorists speak Arab and read the Koran?
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