The face of naked eliminationism
By David Neiwert Friday May 08, 2009 1:00pm
Remember that DHS bulletin on right-wing extremism that got all the righties' shorts in a bunch? Let's quickly recall the bottom line of its assessment:
DHS/I&A assesses that lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing violent rightwing extremist ideology are the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States.
It's not talking about ordinary conservatives here, despite their evident wish to martyr themselves in defense of their right-wing brethren. It's talking about people like Stephen P. Morgan:
MIDDLETOWN, Conn. - A man suspected in the fatal shooting of a Wesleyan University student wrote in his journal that it's "okay to kill Jews and go on a killing spree," according to an arrest warrant released Friday.
... Police found Morgan's journal inside the bookstore, according to the warrant. Morgan's father identified his son as the man seen in bookstore surveillance photos and told investigators his son was a loner who kept a journal and was known to make anti-Semitic comments, according to the warrant.
The journal had an entry saying "I think it okay to kill Jews and go on a killing spree" and "Kill Johanna. She must Die," according to the arrest warrant.
And it's talking about people like Keith Luke. You remember him, don't you?
A man accused of a horrific rape and killing spree told investigators that he was "fighting extinction" of the white race and had stockpiled 200 rounds of ammunition to "kill 'nonwhite people' such as African Americans, Hispanics and Jewish people," according to a police report filed today in court.
After forcing his way into a home and raping a 22-year-old woman, the alleged assailant, Keith Luke, shot and killed the woman's younger sister, who tried to help her. Luke, 22, then allegedly turned his fury back on the rape victim, firing his gun through a white teddy bear that she clutched in terror, police said.
Well, when he appeared in court earlier this week, he had carved a swastika into his forehead and defiantly smirked at the family and friends of his victims:
Handcuffed, shackled and with a swastika cut into his forehead, Keith Luke stood before the judge and smirked as the clerk read the charges in Brockton Superior Court.
Two counts of murder. Four counts of aggravated rape. Armed kidnapping. Six counts of armed assault with intent to murder. Armed home invasion. A string of gun charges.
Luke, 22, of Brockton, made his first appearance in superior court Wednesday since a grand jury handed up indictments in what authorities have called a racially motivated attack that killed two people and critically wounded a third on Jan. 21.
It seems that not only is Luke proud of his act, he wanted to let his victims know it too:
In the 10 minutes it took to read the indictments in Brockton Superior Court Wednesday, Luke alternately smirked at the judge and craned his neck to glare at the victims’ families. The victims’ families silently stared back at the suspect.
“My heart was pounding,” said Deolinda Monteiro, aunt of Selma Goncalves, who was fatally shot in the January attack. “It was my first time seeing him.” Plymouth County District Attorney Timothy J. Cruz said he was impressed with how the families reacted in court.
“I think the families showed a lot of control,” Cruz said. “I applaud their courage.” Before the arraignment, Selma’s father, Madueno Goncalves, said it was important to be in court. “I want justice,” he said. “I want to know what is going on.”
These are the kind of people that the DHS was trying to warn about. But of course, we couldn't have a rational conversation about it -- because evidently too many conservatives see themselves when we talk about right-wing extremists. And that may be our biggest problem of all.
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Human evolution is a sometimes thing.
on anything but the reproductive end.
Truly a lost soul with an inferior mind to commit acts like that. These two losers hatred began when they first looked into a mirror.
Who or what caused him to lose his soul? What would make a person do something like that?
"I am automatically, magically, owed a world where _?_ does not exist, because I have strong emotions about the issue."
It's a common dynamic. It's most worrisome when vicious people feel entitled to a world where there are fewer people.
They are both psychopaths. Both of these killers enjoyed doing the killing and would do it again if given the chance. Generally, I don't support the death penalty but in the case of a psychopath, they deserve to be put down. They are not human and they are a threat to our society.
in our gov. and tortured to death 100 people or more?
one and the same.
and both of these men deserve a date with the needle. I wish the chair was still around.
That guy Luke scares the hell out of me. Don't you have to be a little bit or a lot crazy to do what he is accused of doing and then carve something like that on your forehead? It's like he's wanting to be convicted.
Sure, being convicted would be a badge of honor. It's a statement of "Hey, if that liberal-lefty society is that scared of me, I must be doing something right." Also, bullies tend to think that people won't respect you unless they fear you.
I wonder how he decides who is jewish.From all the jewish people I know they look like any other white person
there are many Jews out there who are not white or of European descent. The Ethiopian Jews are an example.
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they do look black and are of African descent, but they are Jewish.
This fine young speciman of humanity would probably be just as happy to kill either a black man or a Jew, so a Jewish Ethiopian would just be a two-fer.
But Luke lives in the US, where there are likely no Ethiopian Jews. And I don't know any Jews in the US who are not of European ancestry. I do know of anti-Jewish right-wingers making arbitrary decisions about who's Jewish and who isn't, along the lines of "That person supports liberal legislation, so he/she must be a Jew!" Kinda silly, but these people operate by belief, not by evidence.
They once came to my temple for an event we were having. I originally thought they were from a church, then learned otherwise.
The Far Right hates that the Left hates hate. In fact, many of us hate hate and not the hateful person. And that's a pretty hard thing to do.
I guess it's because Far Right people have a need to feel superior to everyone else, and for many, hate and bullying are a signs of strength.
ahh - so it's an inferiority complex that they fight with. they will go nuts when the prosecutions begin.
...to stick up for this fringe section of conservatism. By all means. This is all the GOP party will have left in a while: freaks and creeps.
These guys in no way reflect conservatives, and to think so is ridiculous. These guys are nut jobs.
That would be like me saying the mother caught on tape blowing marijuana smoke into her sons mouth is a proper portrayal of the left... give me a break.
"These guys in no way reflect conservatives, and to think so is ridiculous. These guys are nut jobs."
I'd like to agree, since I do know some sane conservatives, but when the DHS report on right-wing extremism came out recently (dealing with types like this Keith Luke), the conservative media almost collectively declared that it was referencing them. If they want to claim that kind of status, who are we to say no?
It is a sad state of affairs when conservatives identify with psychopaths.
And the line separating the supposedly reasonable right-wingers from the white supremacists like Luke is often blurry and changing. Right-wing beliefs and policies do often lead to positions like white supremacism. Luke and those like him are living in the same environment of anti-brown-skinned-immigrant hysteria we all are, one created and kept alive by supposedly sensible right-wingers since the 90s at least. He carried it to what we consider an extreme, but if he'd joined the military instead and slaughtered brown-skinned families in the Middle East (minus the swastika), he'd be considered okay, even if he glared at his victims' families while they wept. Luke is also a product of the violence-as-entertainment culture that's been the norm in the US since the 80s particularly, where concern for others is laughed at as naive and everyone's supposed to be hyper-competitive and out to dominate. What's almost as sad as his cruelty is that, if he gets prison time, he'll just have his views cemented by like-thinking imprisoned white supremacists, and probably by like-thinking prison guards and administrators as well.
like this guy and his buddy.Henry's first victim was his mother and then he violated her corpse
http://www.konformist.com/2000/henry.htm
I clicked on your link. Is anyone else having trouble believing that story?
Yes, but you can bet your ass the so-called "pundits" of conservatism ala glenn beck would say exactly that.
The answer is obvious to all, and it should make decent Republicans do all they can to keep psychos from identifying with them.
because I don't want the government to have that kind of power over its citizens. That said, were I on the jury when Mr. Luke was tried, if the death penalty were an option, I'd vote for it in a heart beat.
In fact, were burning at the stake an option, I'd vote for Mr. Luke to be charbroiled.
I'd vote for Mr. Luke to be charbroiled until well done.
You just want him charbroiled?! Personally I'd opt for drawn and quartered.
Or perhaps a "dry" electricution.
I feel the same way, minus the charbroiling (too inefficient and it encourages sadism in people). Just kill him quick and rid us of him. And I say that as someone who's worked against the Texas death penalty for years, but that's because of racial disparities in sentencing and the fact that people known to be innocent are still executed.
Of the justice system is for the state to exact retribution on someone who has committed a wrong against the state or society. Now is a perpetrator does not experience the kind of pain and suffering they inflicted, is the retribution complete?
You ask me, for people like this, a quick painless execution is a slap on the wrist.
I don't want exact retribution. I just want him gone fast. And I don't get pleasure out of knowing that other people, even cruel murderers like Luke, are in pain.
for creatures like him to relive and feel in his mind what his victims went through. That, I think, would be the ultimate punishment.
Retribution is one of the theories (purpose) behind the state's power to punish.
And it isn't about getting pleasure out of their suffering, it is about seeing to it that they get what they deserve. Making them experience the same level of pain and suffering as their victims is, in my view, just another way of setting them and their victims back to the status quo, if both have experienced the same horrendous thing, then they are back to where they started in a sense.
If the perp was truly remorseful for what they did, then the punishment ought to be reduced, but this guy here is without remorse, and he'd gladly do what he did again.
I agree with deang -- we don't want revenge or cruelty, we want to protect society from someone who is obviously not capable of being an ordinary human being. We quietly and calmly put him out of his misery, like a rabid dog.
If we wanted to make him miserable, the best way, if there was any way to do it, would be to give him a conscience and have him realize what he did. He appears to be a sociopath who isn't capable of caring.
So when does this guy get his own show on Fox?
so there IS an opening.
In prison they'll get to watch as much Hannity as they want, and continue attending their Christian church services. It's like paradise for them.
for a moment that Joe the Not-Quite-A-Plumber had grown a beard.
Also my first thought.
I was just thinking that all these guys look alike.
so much so that they confirm what the DHS report was getting at. by making an issue of this they implicitly state that they realize that some of their fringe are whacked out and prone to these acts of violence. not much to defend here, but they are doing it anyway by lumping themselves in with these criminals and crying foul.
It chilling to look at these people. You have to ask how to react when faced with something like this. There would be no way to reason with someone like this.
You can't reason with them, they are animals. Animals don't reason.
Don't insult the animals. Animals kill to eat not because they hate.
I shouldn't have lumped this... well... example of de-evolution I suppose, in with Maru the cat.
I read an interesting book about sociopaths, called The Sociopath Next Door, that said this kind of stuff:
It may be a birth defect: some people are born without consciences, like a part of their brain were missing. One side effect for them is that they are easily bored -- can you imagine how empty life would be if you didn't care about people at all? What's left? Unfortunately for the rest of us, people like this seem to often take up cruelty for amusement in their bored lives.
It's getting harder and harder to tell the difference between "normal conservatives" and right-wing extremists. Is it the self-mutilation? No, that would make Rush a right-wing extremist. Wait a minute..
And to think he carves a swatstika on his forehead, Nazis, who killed Americans in WWII. Right-wingers have fallen off the cliff.
I.Q. of ten, table for two. What a POS, good job right wing hate radio.
Always gotta wonder how many borderline wackos will go or already went that extra step over to full-blow wackos thanks to all the validation the McCain/Palin campaign provided with all their bigoted fear mongering?
What "conservatives" are you clowns talking about? Real conservatives don't support crap like this. Next you'll be telling me that the GOP has gone "too far to the right."
' "What "conservatives" are you clowns talking about? Real conservatives don't support crap like this. Next you'll be telling me that the GOP has gone "too far to the right." '
Maybe "real conservatives don't support crap like this", but many conservative leaders, such as Sarah Palin, John McCain, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly enable people who support "crap like this".
If conservatives want us to believe that this hate-and-fear mongering isn't the true face of conservatism, they need to denounce it. GOP chair Michael Steele tried to do so by having the unmitigated gall to challenge Rush, and Steele ended up doing a back-pedal. The hate-and-fear mongers are the ones making all the noise. So-called moderate or mainstream conservatives need to be just as loud in challenging that crap. They're wimping out because they're so afraid of being slapped down by the very vocal hardcore GOP "base".
And yeah, I do think the GOP has gone "too far to the right." A significant number of GOP supporters have this sentiment that they need go back to their "core principals" and appeal more to their "base".
Earlier this week, I saw CBC anchor Peter Mansbridge interview David Frum. I don't agree with Frum too often, but in this segment, he made a damn good point. Frum noted that when the GOP loses power, it tends to decide that the way back to power is to do more of the stuff that everybody hates; the stuff that lost them the election. It's fine to have "principals", but if so many voters have a problem with those "principals", maybe you have to rethink things.
Here in the south even the homeless wine-o's are republican,And every criminal I have met or talked to is a god fearing republican
Conservatives are ones that keep the radical right at arms length and denounce it whenever possible while the left embraces it's radicals as heroes...awww Ayers wasn't THAT bad was he? *rolls eyes*
Hey, sunshine...next time you want to start a reasoned discussion, leave the knee-jerk talking points behind, why dontcha?
What's the difference between Ayers and the two idiots featured in the article? The two guys up top STILL think it's ok to commit violence in pursuit of their warped agendas.
Ayers gave an interview recently in the NYT that he wished the Weatherman could've done more...that's repentant? Sorry, facts are pesky things.
Ayers did not say that he wished the Weatherman could have committed more violent acts.
What he said was that he wishes that HE had done more in protest of the Vietnam War, and done more to bring it to an end. In fact, he has said repeatedly that he is NOT saying that he wishes he had been more involved with violence.
The two statements are not exactly the same thing.
Filled with the dumb aren't you? Arm's length my ass! You do know who Sarah "dingbat" Palin is, right?
Sarah Palin is not a conservative, she's a Republican.
Who the hell let you out from under the bridge?! Back under the bridge with you!
And yet those you call "radical right" types insist on calling themselves "conservative" when pressed, because they recognize a commonality between their views and what Limbaugh, Coulter, Beck, et al preach. And Ayers wasn't and isn't bad at all. *rolls joint*
He's just the latest troll to fall off the wagon.
The GOP went too far to the right in 1980 and the US has been paying for it ever since.
Actually, it started in 1964. Read this:
http://bradhicks.livejournal.com/118805.html
(It's Part II of a 5-part series by Brad Hicks called Christians in the Hands of an Angry God, and it's great. )
He looks like a young bearded Limbaugh.
Beavis & Butthead grown-up, for reals.
Beavis and Butt-head wouldn't care what race a chick was, so long as she was hot.
These people are less than Beavis and Butt-Head.
Yet another reason not to shed any tears over the 90-year-old former Nazi prison guard being deported back to Germany.
As "Joliet Jake" Blues said, "I hate (Illinois) Nazis". Try 'em and fry 'em.
He commits murder and appears in court defacing himself in such a way as to invite hatred. He must want to die.
to do the swastika thing, like Charles Manson...
I hope they enjoy their life behind bars where NOBODY will ever hear from them again. Dumb fucking Republican Nazis.
So many people thing of Manson as a hippie radical - most of his views were decided right-wing. He just happened to be quick enough on the draw to realize that he'd get more girls if he went "peace, love and drugs."
Just like Poplawski, Atkinson, Choi, Rudolph, McVeigh, etc... right on down the line.
They intentionally pick on targets that they know will have a very hard time defending themselves in any way that doesn't involve running away. Which is, naturally, part of the fun for them.
In the case of Poplawski, facing people who could actually defend themselves and were trained to, he ambushed them before they even had the idea of what was about to happen to them.
These guys don't want to give their victims a fair fight, they don't want to put themselves in the position where they would have to go toe-to-toe with whoever it was to prove their warped, whacked out, fucked up point that they're trying to make.
It's all about the coward in all these people, and it always will be, until the end of time.
Funny how guns become so convenient for that purpose, so much of the time.
They're somewhat unpredictable. Other-wise I'd like to see specific houses set up with SWAT officers to lure people like this in. Like how they lure in child predators on the internet.
Poster children for the savage nation...
"Savage" nation
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"I'm gonna sue!" Big talk from a tiny man.
I'm sure the laughter heard in any courtroom would rival that of the court in the Billo v Franken thing -- if it got that far.
We know exactly why Savage is now barred from entering the UK.
He plans to sue. LMAO. Good luck with that - you sociopathic moron.
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If they were black the Rushthugliklans would use them in a Willie Horton type attack ads against the Democrats but since these guys are part of their base....not a peep from them.
It's sad and horrible that we have become a nation of very little self accountability. This has been the norm for years, long before Bush, from the very top of our society, down. The republicans and the far right people who support them are a prime example of this. It's in our schools, in our corporations, in our institutions and so on. No one will take responsibility for their actions and our children are taught the same. When someone is call to account, they hide behind false patriotism, false religious beliefs, and a too real sense of entitlement.
Yes too far to the right, that's why they nominated the most moderate, stand for nothing, wishy washy opportunist they could possibly find last election. The Republicans are in trouble because they've become nothing more than oppressive gov't liberals with just a different agenda than Dems. (usually simply doing the bidding of the religious lobby).
What's really humorous is what's represented in these comments is the equivalent on the far left what you're despising on the far right.
you are incredibly ignorant.
The Republicans decided on McCain because they saw they didn't stand a chance if they didn't appeal to the moderates and independents; if they had run Huckabee or Romney, the loss would have been that much greater, and the GOP would be DOA right now, instead of on life support.
Liberals have never been the "oppressive government" you seem to think they have been; all of the great societal achievements of the past century or so have come at the insistence of liberals/progressives. It's your "conservatives" who have enacted oppressive legislation, and have focused on those aspects of society that, fundamentally, have no bearing on public policy or governing; i.e. abortion and same sex marriage.
Right, that's why Republicans had to drag Dems kicking and screaming to pass the civil rights acts of the 60's & 70's.
"Republican" and "Democratic" party labels do NOT automatically equate with liberal and conservative.
The party ideals the groups espouse now bear very little resemblance to where they were 40 years ago.
DocJ -- while the Dixiecrats were reluctant about civil rights, to say the Republicans were all for it is revisionist history.
Another hit and run..."I'm going to go through the trouble of registering on this site, just spout my nonsense at the scary LIRULS!"
Because we always hear about domestic communists going on a crime spree with AKs, SKSs, and RPKs.
I believe a bridge somewhere is missing it's troll?
happened, but I hadn't seen him before. And wow, he does scare me.
My heart goes out to the families of the two girls that were killed by these two creeps, and to the girl that went through being raped by that subhuman Keith Luke, and losing her sister to his subhumanness...
You can't dismiss these people as being subhuman, they are the symptom of some very deep rooted issues in our society.
While the flag wavers can speechify about what a great nation we are, they pretend these people don't exist, but they are out there.
We have the toxic mix of an underclass that is left behind who have free access to guns.
then?
Say what you will, but there are a lot of people in this country who are part of the underclass who've suffered but who will NEVER hurt anybody this way. They don't gun down women because they're Jewish, and they don't rape one Black woman and kill another.
I reserve the right to denounce them for the subhumans they are.
It's almost as if you're trying to get me to sympathize with them, but it won't happen with this woman of color.
At the root of it it's the parents. I'm not that rich, I own guns. I am not a felon. I just had parents that taught me that your ass is a proper place to stick your head.
Secondly, I see no reason why you couldn't forfeit your humanity and thus become something less than human, sub-human. Treat people they way they act, if they act as some sort of monster, than they ought to be treated as such. It's part of Aritotle's idea of Distributive Justice.
rarely can you be 100% certain someone is guilty.And the dead can not be brought back to life if you found out later they were inocent.
Plus with enought MONEY the guilty can be set free (i.e.OJ.,Barreta etc.etc.)
I'm not really talking about the workings of it, I mean from a more moral perspective. Yes, those are valid points you brought up, but it wasn't where I was going.
My argument was that these people could be seen as something less than human. Doesn't exactly mean we have to give them all the death penalty. Yes, personally I'd like to see every convicted, un-repentant rapist drawn and quartered, but I'll settle for forced labor camps in gulag or Nazi concentration camp like conditions for them.
From a moral standpoint, if they're unrepentant about their crimes (like you see them taunting the victim's families), I see nothing wrong with considering them as something less than human.
subhuman, but yet not treat them exactly the same way they were treated.
These two scumbags would probably not be that fond of me, but I would feel some sadness for their families if they were executed. Which is a consideration they never gave their victims and their families.
Do Hannity and Beck and O'Mousedick have the balls to defend this guy? Hannity and Beck and O'Mousedick are proud of how well their encouragement worked but will they admit it?
The Re-Thuglic party OWNES these people.
They might as well have "Property of the GOP" branded on their fat, white, worthless male asses.
They're their creatures. They nurtured them, they spoon-fed them the requisite hate, vitriol, xenephobia, misogyny, homophobia and bigotry.
This is what you'll find in the Re-Thuglic Party's "Big Tent" . . . .
Immature, voraciously rapacious, depraved, despotic, doughy white, cowardly, angry troglodytes, bigots, racists, perverts, xenophobes, pedophiles, murderers, war criminals, homophobes, misogynists, self-righteous hypocrites, self-hating women, fetid wombs, preeminent whiners and consummate chronic liars.
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More like Big Top, it's nothing more than some deranged circus and freak show at this point.
Have they found the books by Hannity, Coulter and Beck yet?
Ha! Ya, they always have a book and magazine list for these guys. If he has a TiVo or DTV recorder i bet Beck and Hannity are on it.
That we will not hear from a single member of the Christian Values GOP Leadership decrying these horrors.
No. Instead we will hear Christian Values GOP merchants of hate like Rush, Hannity, Maulkin, Dobson, Beck, Coulter screaming "Hey! It wasn't Us!!" as they continue to make Hate mainstream and acceptable.
Yes it is you.
Both of these guys, especially Mr. Swastika, are headed straight for Supermax. Good luck guys, you're going to need it.
Here's what happens more and more in US max-security jails: long-term solitary confinement. This practice has been banned in almost every other democracy in the world. It's considered by most countries to be torture.
Hellhole by Atul Gawande
The New Yorker, March 30, 2009
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30...
I have no sympathy for these animals.
Just saying - they aren't just going to jail, they are going to have their already-twisted minds broken into pieces.
First of all, Charles Manson owns the swastika-on-the-forehead bit. I guess originality is not a priority for nihilistic white supremacists.
Secondly - forget the death penalty - what about castration and frontal lobotomy as an option for people like this? I bet they'd stop raping and murdering pretty quick after that. Then, just hand 'em over to their next of kin, who will be stuck with the job of taking care of them.
No, that's not what frontal lobotomy does. It can take away the conscience. What these people need is more, not less, conscience.
I'm not sure what the effects of an adult castration would be on a human, but on other animals, the later it's done the less likely it is to do away with aggressive behavior, if I remember correctly.
At sometime in the past these creatures may have been human. Skinheads, jihadists and other common haters are mere low IQ cannon fodder for their big brothers in corporate boardrooms and governments, who slaughter innocents by the millions.
If you think that there are only a few of these types, think again.
"But of course, we couldn't have a rational conversation about it -- because evidently too many conservatives see themselves when we talk about right-wing extremists. And that may be our biggest problem of all."
You summed it up well and in a nutshell, no pun intended!
I wonder if the right wing nut cakes can see what their "hate speech" does to demented, sick, pathetic minds? I wonder if they can understand what a "Hate Crimes Bill" might address? These sad, shallow and sick bastards are the type that would be affected.
Wake up, you snoring dumb shits.
From what I read he didn't,He just supposedly said he wanted to kill some jews.The victims families looked white to me
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He just supposedly said he wanted to kill some jews.Somehow it seems all these killers always mention they "wanted" to kill some jews,They just never get around to it
http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/01/22/keith-...
The one from yesterday did kill a Jewish girl. Keith Luke on the other hand killed a Black girl.
This Keith Luke motherfucker is SO FUCKING UGLY - he's so worried about saving the white race and killing off Blacks, Hispanics and Jews -
and the IRONY is there are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of Blacks, Hispanics and Jews that are WWAAYY more beautiful than he is - on the outside AANNDD inside.
He is a perfect cross between Charles Manson, Dick Cheney and Satan himself.
I was just looking at a photo from his arraignment, and you are so right. He is disgusting. If I didn't know better (obviously it's way more complicated than this), I 'd say that he was behaving this way after being rejected by so many lovely women of color and women in general...
...examples of the rightwing extremists they meant to target, her report wouldn't have gotten the negative reaction that it did. Instead, the report defined rightwing extremists so broadly and vaguely that any one-issue partisan could fall under that category.
When the DHS released the Bush era report on right-wing extremists, the leader of the GOP, Rush Limbaugh, ordered the entire party to identify themselves as such.
Stephen Morgan and Keith Luke are exactly who Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage have aligned themselves with.
The Republican Leadership have chained themselves to murderers like these. We must always point that out and remind the American voters that, by their own admission, there is no difference between the two.
Rush Limbaugh = Keith Luke, Rush said so himself!
Can you give a citation for what exactly Rush said when he identified with Luke?
Stephen Morgan is a theist, a believer, a roman catholic. He's NOT an atheist, agnostic, or secular humanist. Religion is at least partially to blame for yet another tragedy.
is obviously being consumed by his own hate. At some point he stood on the edge of the abyss. As he looked down he decided his fate, would he continue to hate or would he face reality. It's been downhill ever since.
Hmm...seems to me I've heard these words before. Shortly after the assassination of Robert Kennedy, Grove Press published the diary of Sirhan Sirhan. Repeatedly, he had written "RFK must die...RFK must die...RFK must die." You recall that the right wingnut pundits had their panties in a bunch when Janet Napolitano warned various security agencies of guys like this. Looks like they're already coming out fo the woodwork.
The Sirhan diary editors, following a trend at the time, wondered if the killer might have been Manchurianized, that Sirhan might have been brainwashed. Hmm....
These Nazi loving, Right Wing-NutO killers should worry everybody, since there are so many more uneducated, hate-filled, Reslug killers running around just like him.
Why's it always gotta be the "righties"? Do you even know what the words you use even mean?
People who are righties are conservatives (i.e. Jeffersonian), Democrats (i.e. Jeffersonian), Republican (i.e. Jeffersonian), liberal (i.e. classical) and they are known as American (i.e. all of us). We are not neo-con Marxists fascists criminals like Bush, Hannity, Rush, Cheney, Rumsfeld etc. WE ARE NOT THEM.
Talk about taking the GOP to its roots, what about the Democrats? 200-years ago you were the party against a central bank like the Federal Reserve and against a Big Government. In the 19th century, you were the party of limited government.
Do you guys realize you are unfairly associating crazy stupid loser criminals with valid arguments like limiting the federal government and examining the Fed's monetary policy.
Guess, what I love C&L, Bill Maher, Maddow, Olbermann etc -- but why do you guys make me feel stupid for not being a Keynesian/Fabian/Collectivist?
Why can't I like crazy Glenn Beck for his Paul Volcker-type ideas and at the same time like Bill Maher?
WHY does it always have to be left vs right, us vs you, etc?
Please consider learning what Ron Paul really has to say.
PS - I voted for John Kerry and Barack Obama. I hated George Bush before he was President.
What's Paul Volcker-like about Glenn Beck?
Don't forget to point out that these Republinazis are all Christians.
Steal a country on the basis that some stupid fuckin outdated book said it was theirs, ignore nuclear prolification, send tanks against kids wih stones, kidnap and kill outspoken oposition, oh and don't mention the holocaust, what happened to forgiveness that your GOODBOOK preaches, oh i forget you lot are the eye for an eye shit and wonder why you get a women strapped up with plastic explosives in tel aviv after you flatten a village and deprive them all of a decent standard of living. Well in the history of war criminals you lot maybe just below hitler but certainly hover around the pol pot mark. Wake up you are not the chosen ones nobody is. you like to think your diffferent to the arabs at least they ain't affraid to face a tank with a stone unlike you chiken shit foreskinless muppets. Beleive it or not i'm not a racist but you lot certainly put a good arguement forward for becoming one.
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