Gingrich and Hannity agree: The bashing of Bush was much worse than attacks on Obama
Jimmy Carter's accurate remarks observing the racial animus that is the bedrock of a good deal of the outrageous animosity directed at President Obama have right-wingers like Sean Hannity all in tizzy.
The two of them promptly commiserated on Hannity's Fox News show last night about how awful it was for Carter to bring up the issue:
Gingrich: Well, it first of all is amazing to me that when the Left hated George W. Bush, when they booed him during the State of the Union, when MoveOn.org attacked him relentlessly, when Democrats used vicious language, somehow it wasn't inappropriate.
Now, I don't know if Jimmy Carter thinks there was racism involved in disliking a white president, but I would say that the amount of anger, hostility, and nastiness on the Left against George W. Bush was vastly greater than anything that's happened with President Obama.
OK, done laughing? I know you all got a good belly laugh outta that one. Because we all remember what it was like trying to speak up about Bush, especially after 9/11. Merely criticizing the man brought instant charges of treason.
Some three years after the election, -- and not a mere 10 months -- Bush's defenders did start whining about those awful, mean Bush haters. According to Rich Lowry, the meanies were out there:
Bush is routinely portrayed as a Nazi on left-wing Web sites, which post pictures of Bush with a Hitler mustache and sell T-shirts with Bush's name spelled with a swastika. The anti-war Web site Takebackthemedia.com features a Flash movie complaining that "the media will not tell you of the Bush family Nazi association" and theorizing that in order "to offset their reputation as World War II traitors, former President Bush joined the U.S. Navy as a pilot." (Clever, those Bushes.)
The rest of the piece is devoted to similar examples of Bush-hatred. All of which, as you can see, involved a handful of fringe writers on obscure sites.
Unlike the frothing hatred -- and outright extremist wingnuttery -- we see demonstrated daily by major "news" anchors on cable TV like Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs.
Moreover, as I noted back then, the animus directed at Bush throughout his inept tenure still paled in comparison to the vicious bile directed at Bill Clinton by the likes of Newt Gingrich and his crowd.
Bob Somerby similarly tore apart both Lowry and Byron York for peddling fake facts in the process of claiming an equivalency between Bush-hatred and Clinton-hatred.
There was, in fact, a significant difference between Bush-haters' reasons for hating Bush and Clinton-haters' reasons, such as they were. The former tended to involve factual matters and real issues, even if they ultimately inspired extreme reactions -- Bush's dubious election, his invasion of Iraq, his handling of Katrina -- while the attacks on Clinton were predicated in many regards on right-wing fantasies: Clinton knocked off Vince Foster, he had dirty dealings in the Whitewater scandal, he was part of a drug-dealing operation out of Mena, he had a black "love child" lurking somewhere in his background, and he was part of a "New World Order" conspiracy to place America under a one-world government. All of these claims actually made their way into the mainstream press -- usually as right-wing talking points -- at the time, despite all of them having not a grain of truth to them.
The same is true of the attacks on Obama: he is alternately a "socialist," a "communist," or a "fascist" (depending on the mood of the talker, though they often seem to be used equivalently), not a real American citizen, actually a citizen of Kenya, and secretly a radical larding up his "czars" with fellow radicals with the intent of turning America into a communist state. He's going to take away your guns and lock conservatives up in concentration camps, after he convenes "death panels" to see who lives and who dies.
It's all a freaking fantasy cooked up in the paranoid fever swamps of the far right, and mainstream conservatives are wallowing right in. Newt "Sarah Palin was right" Gingrich included.
Well I should hope so.
Lower the retirement age.
But please, as Tom Tomorrow pointed out, people were forcibly removed from crowds for wearing Anti-War t-shirts, yet idiots are now allowed to bring semi-automatic weapons freely to Obama speeches.
Good thing they have an entire network devoted to rewriting history.
Yet under GOPs they are crushed , too bad these loons seem to be in an opposeing reality.
has a frakkin' opinion.
Wowie zowie. Snorrrrk.
Give him his own show. As a marriage councilor.
He's had three of 'em.
Better yet, ordain him as a priest.
"It is hard to fight an enemy who has outposts in your head."
Sally Kempton
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Must be true then.
These two don't have a thimble full of credibility between the two of them
To more delusional bs. W stole an election, lied us into an unnecessary war in Iraq, gave away a surplus to his cronies, took away habeas corpus, tortured, and failed at every turn in the road. Yes he was criticized and still is criticized as the worst president since Raygun.
2 electionsone through the Supreme Court, one through massive dirty tricks in Ohio.
And if you don't think that Prescott Bush, W's grandfather was a Nazi sympathizer and seditionist, google "Smedley Butler" and find the BBC radio broadcast about Prescott's involvement in a sedition plot against FDR. Prescott sold munitions to the Nazis for quite a while.
Lying BS on FuckNews????
Who'da thunk it?
Could it be that somebody's trying to portray those lying asswipes as HUMAN?
Oh well...time to go out and check the filter in the gene pool....
I guess on whatever planet Gingrinch and Inshannity reside, that might be true. But here on Earth in our 21st century, it is blatantly false.
Bush bashers would be immediately taken to Gitmo or forced to apologize under EIT's.
Obama is often racist, facist, communist, socialist, and Nazi all at the same time. These fools probably don't even understand what half those words mean. They're just insults to them and they lob them out as fast their mouth can spew diarrhea.
To me, considering that Obama has black heritage while calling him Hitler - that's just way too stupidly ironic for me. It just shows that these people have zero education which is unfortunately very sad in itself.
Trent Franks actually believes that Obama called Republicans liars first, and that Wilson was just responding to that.
Here it is.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2914
Franks is "my congressman."
A former employee of Halliburton, he left Texas just ahead of a questionable land deal and moved to AZ.
This former chairman of the AZ Focus on the Family, he is congressman of the 2nd district gerrymander.
He is a creep.
A creep? Man that is the nicest thing I could think to come up with. This guy is a complete asshole. No ifs ands or buts. Just a straight up asshole. Was it Tweety I saw interviewing him? It looked like somebody else had already punched him in the mouth.
and he was right. He called them liars by implication, saying that the story that there would be death panels and that there would be illegals getting health care as part of this legislation were lies. They and he both know who told the lies, although Obama didn't connec the dots for them. It was an intelligence test, and Wilson failed it.
Those fringe sites on the left, like TakeBackTheMedia mentioned the W is a family name that as well be Warbucks. It is a FACT that In 1942 Prescott Bush had business assets seized by the US govt for trading with enemy. That was the year Poppy got into the Navy flyboy program, despite not having the required year of college. His father's banking and shipping businesses were helping prop up the Nazi war machine. After Prescott became a senator he got his money back.
personally profited from his association with UBC and the Thyssen family, although no documentary evidence has come to light. Prescott and his Skull and Bones partners knew they were helping Fritz Thyssen and Nazi Germany.
participated in an attempt to subborn Smedley Butler to sedition. Gogle "Smedley Butler" and the BBC to hear the radio broadcast.
First, bush bashers were routinely harrassed and arrested when they protested. Could you imagine what would have happened to someone carrying a gun at one of those rallies? Of course, many of those rallies were for peace, so it would be hypocritical to carry a gun, but I digress....
Second, the entire WORLD was against bush the past 4 or 5 years, it was not just the LEFT, it was the WORLD. The difference today is the rest of the world still believes in Obama (for the most part) and is not hurling insults. I know the right does not like to hear it but: EVERYONE IN THE WORLD BUT THE RIGHT HATED BUSH!!!
That's the very reason they are able to dismiss the criticism as not credible. 'The rest of the world' aren't real full-fledged humans like real Patriotic Republicans are. In fact they may as well be a different species - subhumans, if you will.
I bitterly recall how Bush was "Bashed" after he stole the 2000 election.How he was "Bashed" for holding a single meeting on terrorism leading up to 9/11.Then he was "Bashed" after launching his highly dubious internationally reviled and unquestionably illegal War.
To top it off he was "Bashed" for allowing the Geneva Convention flouting "enhanced interrogations" of a few A-Rab Crumb Bums.
Oh and the endless "Bashing" he's endured for killing the economy deader than a door knob while enriching his friends to heretofore unheard of levels of greed driven lawlessness.
I tell ya it just burns me up.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
...most notably the part about "this great nation."
Great?
drug dealing: http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS...
However, considering who else was involved, the wingnuts couldn't really shriek very loudly about it.
Dave, as you're a first-rate journalist, I'm sure you'll check this information out personally.
This duo is still remains without a clue. Bush was a illegitimate president, lied about Iraq and Sadam, just to name a few of many.
Can you imagine these two, after about 15 cocktails each running naked thru the streets of New Orleans at Mardi Gras?? That would be a sight to behold...
These two combined have never been known for their grasp of reality and bringing up bashing of chimpy as a comparison point with what is going around these days is EXTREMELY short sighted....and basically delusion...But consider the players...Nest?? Hannratty?? YIKES-O-RAMA....
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whatever bush was portrayed as, it was not often enough nor was it ever enough. The guy conspired to bring down this country, to this day i really don't know why. But he was in conspiracy with the "evil doers." And because the dems are such panty waists, he is going to get away with it scot free.
I thought the Scots never gave anything away for free.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
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But only if you can get into their kilts.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
he was a liar and a hypocrite. He ran our country to the brink of ruin. He admitted he did not know what was going on and allowed the heinous Dick Cheney to assume the office of the presidency so he could conquer Iraq's oil fields, make him and all his friends rich and hijack our government. George W. Bush should be more than bashed...he should be in jail for war crimes, corruption, treason and dishonoring his oath of office by failing to uphold the consitution. George Bush is a historic disgrace, to our country and to the world. History will show him as such, it has no choice.
Woody McBreairty
+1
Obama and the dems start wars as a stategy for staying in power for a generation I'll start bashing them also.
"every cloud is silver liney"
Gingrich and Hannity are wingnut Liars. Besides Bush deserved every piece of criticism and he should be behind bars because of his numerous criminal conservative activities.
Actually the media didn't seem to do anything but give boosh a free pass until about his last year.
Obama hasn't been in office even one year yet.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
The conservatives went after Clinton from the first day of his Presidency. They are using the same tactics now against Obama because it worked for them 1994. I'm afraid history is going to repeat itself.
Same with health care.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyvaIH6RlNQ
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
He's a frickin idiot!
He can't even hold an intelligent conversation w/o screwin that up!
Obama v Boosh. No comparison. Nada,Zip. Notta Gawd damned thing. Not even close.
Obama, smart.
Boosh, village idiot.
This is hilarious. Obama hasn't even been in office one year, and he's been attacked and vilified for, trying to fix all of Boosh's feck ups.
Boosh deserved everything he got. It's too early to condemn Obama .
teabaggers, are you reading?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
But were you able to confirm whether your high school friend's son is ok?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Thanks for asking. His son is fine. But it still left me with a feeling of dread. Same last name, both from So Cal, Both close to the same age.
It left me with the reality that someone is hurting. Even tho I was wrong, it doesn't change the fact that there are families going thru this every week. As you probably know, I was in favor of Afghanistan.
I was reluctant, but still in favor of it. miss_kitty schooled me on that one. She was right. What I would like to see is, some kind of bargain struck and an almost immediate withdrawl from Afghanistan now.
The reason I say almost is because, we can't turn our back on them and just walk away. It's got to be done right. After the election in which Karzai pulled a Boosh circa 2000-2004, I say lets GTFOT.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
And ditto on the "let's GTFOT."
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Double ditto.
ps, I'm glad your friend's son is OK, mud.
But someone's family is hurting. enough. I want them home. All of them. My nephew is still sitting on a mountain top in Afghanistan. I want all of them home ,now.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
They're all sitting ducks over there. The situation is getting worse. Enough is enough.
Seeing that name shocked and scared the hell outta me.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Sometimes this world can get terrifyingly small.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
So it must be true.
republicanism is a mental illness!
Hey Newt I can't wait for another 8 years when you can come back and show me how correct you were. I seriously don't think you will be able to but we will see. And we will be able to compare the records of George W. Bush and Barrack H. Obama. Obviously we won't be able to do that until 2017 but we do know that Bush came closer than any other president to bringing down the economy of the world and Bush got us into this insane war with no good outcome and he did it for personal reasons and he stole an election and the people he had working for him were criminals and the middle class shrunk and the rich got richer than any sane person would expect and he did nothing to fix the health care problem and he was the worst president in our history and... and... and... and... and...
Hannity and Gingrich are about as trustworthy as a rubber with a whole in it.
Hannity's audience sure as hell think he is trustworthy. An you know they think Newt is a trustworthy family values Christian.
I sure hope in the big picture there are not may of them (Hannity followers).
I love it when these two scumbags sit down to feed each other a big old plate of horse shit. I don't know which one enjoys the turds more?
Maybe because he deserved it?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
...the scandals involving Reagan and Bush The Greater were true. As in, factual. Admitted to under oath (Liddy, North, etc.). The scandals involving the Clintons were, with the exception of a BJ, false. Made up out of whole cloth. The scandals involving Bush The Lesser were true (Harkin Energy, SEC violations, Saudi Royal ties, etc. ad nauseum). The scandals involving Obama are again completely false. I think there's a pattern here.
Obama isn't beyond criticism - far from it. There's plenty of valid issues to oppose him on, in my opinion, more reasons to oppose him than there are reasons to support him. But what I don't understand is why one side of our political spectrum is so compelled to make up such absolute insane crazy shit.
Maybe they think that since their leaders are so twisted and evil, then the other side HAS to be even worse - they KNOW 'liberals' and Democrats are evil because, because... well, they just ARE. Everybody knows that! Of course they can never give any specifics. In stark contrast, the reasons for why Conservatism (not to be confused with conservatism) doesn't work are so thick on the ground you can't walk without stepping on a thousand of them.
Just tell me what to believe what to say how to say it and when to say it you see I am a Spineless Coward Gutless non Critical Thinking ( critical thinking is NOT encouraged in the republican party). I will even divorce my wife while she is on her death bed then embrace family values. I will lie, Distort the Truth and work to assassinate the character of anyone who disagrees with me. As a Criminal hate Mongering Republican the truth is my perception the country as it should be again is my perception and anyone who is a different colour, talks with a accent or not of the brand of hate mongering christianity that I am shall be and are enemies of mine and the state, Truth is what I am told to believe and nothing else is acceptable.
Glenn Beck appearing on the Fox and Friends morning show stated these words - Obama is a "racist" and has "exposed himself as a guy" who has "a deep-seated hatred for white people." [Fox & Friends, 7/28/09]
Where's the outrage over that? Here's Mr Limbaugh just yesterday: Why, it's Obama's America, is it not? Obama's America -- white kids are getting beat up on school buses now. I mean, you put your kids on a school bus, you expect safety. But in Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, "Yay. Right on, right on, right on, right on. [The Rush Limbaugh Show, 9/15/09].
Again, no outrage on that. Here's Rush back in May: the way to "get promoted in the Barack Obama administration" is "by hating white people." [The Rush Limbaugh Show, 5/29/09]
Not one story or outrage over that. Fox is talking about the "MSM ignoring the ACORN story", but they didn't report anything about the pastor "praying for Obama's death and the guy who brough the semiautomatic weapon to his rally attends that church".
So, who's actually stoking the race thing...........??
This from Gingrich, the wife cheating liar and a Fattity the absolute king of uneducated stupidity and lies from Faux Noise.
Bush deserved to be bashed much more than Obama. What is that adulterer going on about?
is it Obama's fault Bush practiced self abuse.
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