Glenn Beck: Obama's stimulus package "enslaves" Americans
What's the latest evidence of Obama Evilness, according to Glenn Beck? On last night's show, it came in the form of his plans for changing the tax deduction structure for upper-income folks when they give charitably:
I don't think I've ever seen a president or a government do anything that I thought was out-and-out evil. I mean, we've gotten close. I think rendition is pretty darned evil. But this is enslaving, what our president has proposed and what is in this new bill. Changes in the tax deductions for charitable giving!
What makes this enslavement? Beck never really gives a coherent explanation, but it apparently has to do with how much he hates giving through taxes and how he loves to give through his own charitable donation.
Evidently, in Beck's world, it's important to keep up tax exemptions for charitable donations so that people can keep using them as a tax dodge.
Because reducing the donations' appeal as a tax dodge is the main thing the change does, according to the LA Times:
Under the president's plan, itemized tax deductions for charitable giving and mortgages would be capped for those earning more than $250,000 a year. Changes would be phased in gradually over the next few years. So in 2010, instead of getting a 33% or 35% deduction for charitable donations, Americans in the top income brackets, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis, would get somewhere in the neighborhood of 28%.
In the Obama budget, the cuts on tax deductions for upper-income Americans -- coupled with cuts in government spending -- are projected to help raise $634 billion for a kind of big federal piggy bank that would be used to extend health coverage to the more than 47 million people in America who are uninsured and subsidize premiums for others who can't afford what they have.
Critics are already voicing concern that charities, hard hit by a decline in donations because of sinking stock prices on Wall Street, could suffer further. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), the No. 2 Democrat in the House, said the potential loss of philanthropic giving is "clearly one of our concerns." And CNBC's Maria Bartiromo said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" today that the Obama blueprint comes with "such unintended consequences" and said of charitable donations, "Get ready for those to go off a cliff."
Republican Rep.Roy Blunt had a similar cow about the proposal:
The provision Blunt is referring to would apply only to families making more than $250,000 a year, and it would extend the 28 percent rate to all tax deductions, not just charitable giving. It was listed in Obama's budget as one of the ways the administration plans to pay for health care reform.
The rationale, according to the administration, is that those who make more than $250,000 get a higher tax benefit than those with a much lower annual income for the same nonprofit donation. This change would make the deduction for charitable giving more equitable.
"We need to start making the tough choices to get our economy moving again," White House spokeswoman Amy Brundage said.
Blunt says the move would stifle giving at a time when charities are more dependent than ever on the goodwill of others. "We should be encouraging, not penalizing, the country's good Samaritans during a time when millions of Americans are relying on their work more than ever," he said.
Brundage disagreed, saying the change would scale the deduction back to the same rate it was at the end of President Ronald Reagan's administration. "Charitable giving was strong then, and it will be strong now especially as we get the economy growing again," she said.
Marc Ambinder of the Atlantic observes: "If wealthy people want to give money, then they should give, regardless of tax benefits. Also: if you're inclined to oppose higher taxes on rich people, wouldn't this be the first way you'd try to sell your opposition to the American people -- by essentially fretting about the huge drop in charitable contributions? My thought experiment is: if tax reform down the line were to gut all deductions, would charitable contributions totally dry up?"
In any event, it all certainly sounds like epitome of evil itself, doesn't it?
Glenn Beck Mentions FEMA Camps on Fox & Friends
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f03zZA___Ho (starts at about 1:45)
A Fat Cat in every pot.
Glenn Beck (the ventriloquist's dummy) as kindling wood.
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if the only way charities are getting their donations is by selling their tax-deductibility then they need to seriously rethink their development strategy.
I think giving to charity only if you get a tax break is not only evil it is uncharitable. Once again why highlight what this moron has to say? He'll be gone due to ratings if we just ignore him.
... for the better part of 30 years, hasn't it?
I mean, 99% of the AM dial is composed of wingnuts and liberals are an endangered species. That seems like an unmitigated successful strategy!
So let's continue burying our heads in the sand... and who knows, with a bit of luck we will get 100% of the AM dial to turn wingnut.
Joy!
Or maybe, and here is a concept... follow me on this. Maybe, it is time for liberals to start showing their teeth and put these loons where they belong: the trash bin of history.
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"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
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No escuho al radio AM aunque el Weird Beard salio de KILT.
I do, however miss Skipper Lee. Houstonians of a certain age will understand.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
WHEN will Rupert finally get Glen a dribble cup OR is that one of the things that got cut from NewsCorps budget as result of the $ 6 BILLION plus loss they just posted??
Beck is such an idiot I'm amazed he can find his hands in the mornings...
soon glenn beck is going to have to rape a goat while sipping camel spit from a coconut husk, wearing a little annie oakley halloween costume, and singing 'everybody loves a parade' on live 3d TV in order to be shocking. and that still might not be shocking.
seriously, he has become so detached from reality (the odd cry segments), so creepy weird (the close up on his droopy eyes), and i stress soooooo shock-heavy (everything that sputters from his mouth hole) that it has become anything but shocking.
nothing's shocking when it comes to beck any longer.
I am gonna need copious amounts of psychedelic substances to remove those images you just produced off my brain!
And it is way too early in the day to do drugs, ugh...
phhpt...
but, you won't need "copious amounts of psychedelic substances", nope. simply lift a rush limbaugh fat roll--preferably a sweaty one--and lick. watch the memories, the emotions, the blood all fade away....
note: doc samson is not responsible for the hair loss, the liver failure, the heart murmurs, the dry mouth,, the bleeding gums, the nightmares, the strange rash, the persistent 'rush halo' around all lights at night, etc. if you lick a limbaugh fat roll. but you will forget. everything... except for that salty rush-flavor.
I just threw up. Not just a little in my mouth, but a full blown (dare I say full throated?) puke which projectiled bits across the room - now permanently stuck in the wall.
That was full on gross. Brain bleach will not remove that image.
I need to go puke again. BBIAB.
so not all is lost I guess...
That is some NASTY shit!!!
LOL!!!
Reminds me of any given "conversation" me and brother have whilst in our cups.
The black guy is seeking direct reparations for slavery. Scaring the shit out of ignorant bigots is the only appeal these freaks have left.
Why even pay attention to this guy? He is such a non entity. He couldn't make on CNN. Gotta think he is probably on an unpaid internship at unfair and unbalanced FOX. I'm not going to knock him for trying to earn a living but maybe he needs to try a new profession: Joe the plumber's lead assistant. Do us all a favor C&L and stop wasting ink on this dipshit.
If only he really were as irrelevant as we'd like him to be. But he's the wingnuts' second-most-popular wingnut right now. He's attracting a substantial right-wing following, and that unfortunately makes him relevant -- just because we make it our business to keep an eye on the figures who are in fact getting traction out there in Greater Wingnuttia. Because pretty soon their insanity is getting parroted everywhere.
This is way off topic but YOU ROCK! You are one of my brightest spots du jour; I always look forward to your posts.
Keep it up, bruddah. You be da man! (Ugh, I just pulled a Bachmann. I am going to check myself in at my first opportunity.)
His national profile has really grown amazingly fast the last few years. I think in three years he could be more popular and more powerful than Limbaugh. Limbaugh is such an asshole that he turns a lot of people off, while the grinning, folksy Beck seems to many like a regular, likable guy.
Beck scares me. He's clearly a fascist posing as a sensible, 'down-home' populist. Limbaugh is just a fascist, plain and simple. Gore Vidal said once that 'if America ever had a dictator', it would be a folksy 'Arthur Godfrey type'. Beck kind of fits that description. He also reminds me a little of Greg Stilson in 'The Dead Zone' or Andy Griffith in 'A Face In The Crowd.'
....when they signed on this total loon. Look at ALL the times he's had his dumb ass puss plastered on the news! He says some of the most outlandish crap, and pulls some of the most fear mongering stunts imaginable; and their ratings just keep climbing.
I can't even watch videos of this lunatic any more. He is just totaly outside the normal game of propaganda and persuasion. He is a total buffoon, but he is making a success of it. I suppose she-man coltier will get her show next, and between them, they can say some of the most offensive and crazy crap, and maybe she'd do a little strip or hang a breast to boost her ratings in the sewer competition.
Either way, the propaganda network knew damn good and well what they were doing when they signed this idiot on. He has no scrupples, and he'll say anything and pull any adolescent stunt to get in the news...and it works.
as personified by Glenn Beck.
Media deregulation bringing crazy people to a tv near you.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
correction...
Media deregulation bringing STUPID, crazy people to a tv near you.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Lizard maybe?
Ventriloquist's dummy.
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the people that will actually cop to:
1) listening to this idiot, and
2) reveal their names
My time is far too precious to even watch videos of this guy, I can't imagine what kind of pathetic fuck thinks this guy's opinion is important.
son in law who listened every day. He'd record Billo or Glenn and play it while my daughter was trying to get to sleep. It is, needless to say, one of the reasons he's about to be my EX-son-in-law.
He picked the wrong family to pull that crap in.
Did she list "mental cruelty" as a reason for the split? Because that damn sure qualifies.
I would become violent if someone tried that shit on me.
is just a few more ex-top 40 DJs telling us how to think, act and vote. Rush, Glen, and Sean aren't nearly enough. We need a few more undereducated blatherers to spew venom and call it entertainment. In our town, Rush is followed by another fool named Mark Readon who couldn't know less if he had been held captive in someone's basement since birth. A plague on one and all....by the way, why does anyone report their thoughts?
All these guys are very opinionated and authoritative, yet none have college degrees. In fact, not one got even close. Hannity attended two schools and dropped out. Rush went to college two semesters and a summer session and supposedly flunked all his classes, including Ballroom Dancing. Beck lasted one semester as a theology major at Yale. Or so he says: that might be something that someone should look into.
The merits of a formal college education can be debated, but I find it fascinating that these three men, all hugely successful in a very competitive profession, have such similar academic records. What I see in Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck are three incredibly gifted story tellers or fantasists. They rejected the objective reality taught in universities and really created their own 'conservative reality' from the insulated environments of their radio booths.
the Rush left Southest Missouri State University at Cape Girardeau, Missouri, referred to laughingly, even by graduates, as, "the Harvard of the Midwest" because it is the easiest school in three states after a couple of semesters. If you can't make it at Cape, you are not college material.
I have a theory about Rush and his imitators. Rush, I think, was probably run ragged and teased all through grade school, which would account for the bitter a-hole that he is today. He's mad at the world. The rest of his clones just saw how far a really mean and nasty couple of hours of talk a day can take someone, and jumped on the bandwagon. Beck is also a former Catholic, now Mormon. He's probably so screwed up in the head from trying to sort THAT out that he's completely over the edge. No two belief systems could possibly be farther apart in Christianity. May they all find peace in the next world....and soon.
I've thought about the High School thing as well. To me, a lot of conservatives - not just the radio guys - were probably potential 'Columbine Kids.' They didn't destroy their schools, but now as grown-us they're going to destroy their country.
Beck, as a Mormon convert, intrigues me as well. I can see growing up as a Mormon, but who in their right mind would convert? The Angel Moroni? Sacred Underwear? The Nephites? The Lamanites? Gold Tablets that mysteriously disappear, but only after they are magically translated from an unknown alphabet, by means of their discoverer burying his face in a top hat? A mountain in upstate New York where a HUGE battle was fought - a battle which left no archaeological record? Why not believe in squibs, The Quidditch World Cup and Lord Voldemort?
were a band of mormons in the 1850's and 1860's that raided camps, settlements and trade routes looking for women to marry. They killed, tortured and raped girls as young as ten.
Why? Because mormons in what became Salt Lake City were running out of women. This is a dirty little secret that is kept under the blanket.
unless he's crying a like a little girl.
he'll pay you $150 an hour and you can participate!
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
by guys in black masks, and taken to a cold, foreign cell, and had jumper cables attached to my gonads, I'm gonna look those cowards right in the eye and say "This is nothing compared to what Obama did to my United Way deduction, you pussies! Call yourselves evil, do you? You're nothing but a bunch of wimps!"
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
According to Beck, the government needs to subsidize rich peoples' charitable donations. Otherwise, they won't give as much... Do I have it right? Is this really what this twit and other right wing lunatics are saying?
sofla,
You are very correct. Glenn Beck thinks that the only socialism worth saving is the government subsidization of "charitable" contributions by the wealthy. Isn't that special?
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See if you can see who made the quote, Beck or Family Guy's Peter Griffin. Actually, I'd bet that Beck would have a good shot at landing the role of PG if they made FG into a live-action movie.
I LOVE THAT!!
I think Family Guy is one of the funniest shows on television (if you're into it, TBS is having four never-seen episodes on tonight at 8 Eastern Time).
Enjoy.
And, Wm., THANK YOU!
only Beck can see this coming based on the effective deductibility rate of charitble donations:
“Anger and discontent at home. The year is 2014. Many people are feeling disenfranchised. People are isolated from their political leaders … Internet connects like-minded people. And the ‘Bubba Effect’ arise in individual militias.”
Mr. Wolfrum's post, however, is priceless. Thanks for the link.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Good move to get this jerk out of your family. Put him on the double nickel down to Katie Jurado and may be can wallow in some of Limbaugh's left over bullshit down there. With a little luck the dumbass will stop in Sikeston and get hit in the head with a "throwed roll".
so he can sell dog food, teddy bears and inflatable mattresses.
I still contend that fox hired him just to make all their other talking heads look less freaky. He can make BillO look almost sane at times. Talk about a man who creeps me out, this guy does it big time.
As for giving to charity, if you are giving from your heart and not from your tax return, you aren't going to stop giving no matter what.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
How did this clown ever get on TV?
Oh I forgot Faux News is a clown circus...
PATHETIC AND USELESS!
can someone yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater without being held liable for the actions of the theater patrons?
I live in a large city. I have a combined household income of about $325k, law school debt of approximately $60k (even after 12 years of uninterrupted payments), a couple of kids and a significant mortgage. My household carries about $60k in consumer debt, including automobiles.
I also contribute significantly (app. $20k annually) in light of my income to various local charities. And while I dislike Beck immensely and think he's an idiot of the first order, the comments above miss the problem with the policy as proposed. I KNOW that I'm going to think a lot harder about how much and to how many charities I give if I can't take the full deduction. As it stands, my ability to take advantage of deductions is already mitigated by my income and the AMT. For example, I can't deduct interest on my school loans, I can't deduct the amount of space/utilities/etc. my wife uses in connection with her home business office.
This isn't a "woe is me" tale but I can tell you that I'm not rich/wealthy by any stretch of the imagination. Indeed, notwithstanding the fact that I spent 10 years in college/grad/law school, I feel subject to many of the same uncertainties/anxieties as many others.
I think a lot of people (including our politicians) forget that there's a lot of well-educated, relatively young, high-income earners in this country who accrued a load of debt to get through school but don't have any wealth. We get slammed at tax time because we're not wealthy enough to derive income from investments but make too much money to take advantage of many deductions. But we're the kind of people who contribute to smaller local non-arts based charities.
Look, I understand being in a high tax bracket and living in an expensive city, but cutting the break from 35% to 28% isn't a huge difference. It's not like he's eliminating it. And hey, if you've got $20,000 to donate to charity, you're doing pretty well. So donate $15,000 this year, if you're struggling.
Especially the part about having $20,000 to donate to charity being a sign you're not struggling as much as you may think. My household combined income is *less* than $20,000 per year. Yet we still manage to make regular (albeit small) donations of time and money to the charities and causes we support without ever considering the tax breaks. Personally, I think that if people are so busy worrying what's in it for them, they are donating for the wrong reasons. So yes, if you're having a harder than usual year, by all means donate the 15K instead of the 20K if you can't do it. Or even give some of your time.
I've never seen change without a fire
"Yellow alert! Red alert! Get yer duct tape!!!"
"Bin Laden gonna getcha!"
"Commies!!! The anti-Christ!!!
"Woooolfff!!!!"
"Wooolffff!!!"
They can scream as loud as they like, nobody's listening.
Oh yeah, I remember when Beck went completely nuts about "extraordinary rendition." I think he had a show... or was it a sentence? or...
Oh, that's right. Beck is a pompous gas bag. I must have been thinking of someone else.
He rants like one of those zealots that carry 'worship Jesus or burn in Hell!' signs on street coners, most of whome have servere mental illness.
enstupids Americans.
Guy reminds me of a crazed teacher in an 80s movie...
I just don't understand all these right wing pundits that sat by and watched for 8 years and GW did as he pleased! Is illegally spying on US citizens not evil? what about war crimes ie torture? I do not agree with most of Obamas policies but at least give the guy a chance he cant be any worse than GW!
Of course Glenn Beck is going to protest health care and financial reform and especially anyting that restores proper tax codes to the wealthy in this country. The man makes $13,000,000 a year. He doesn't want to pay taxes because he's one of the very wealthy.
We should all feel sorry for the rich? Why? Afterall if it weren't for those of us who make WAY under $250,000 a year these people wouldn't be rich in the first place.
No one, I repeat NO ONE gets rich in a vacuum. The rich get rich on the blood, sweat and labor of the middle and lower classes. What astounds me is the people in the middle and lower classes actually believing and supporting his fews or the views of anyone like Palin at $12,000,000 and Rush Limbaugh at $33,000,000 a year! Of course by rabble rousing and lying to their listeners and followers they stand to make more money than GOD!
I don't agree with all of Obama's policies but at least I see the country headed in the right direction unlike with the last [Bush] regime giving the wealthy tax-cuts, taking away miranda right and habeus corpus, rendition and illegal and mismanaged wars! None of which do I believe were done in good faith they were simply ways to make the likes of Saudi Shieks, Blackwater and others VERY VERY rich.
I too would like to understand where all these so called grass roots (Tea Party) people were when Bush and his regime were tanking our economy and driving the deficit up to new heights and leaving the new President with a horrendous mess? Why weren't they protesting then? I would just like one of them to step forward and tell me why they were hibernating when it was a WHITE Republican in power throwing our country and constitution into a tail spin?
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