The Obama 'resistance': Wingnuttery never sleeps
By David Neiwert Friday Dec 26, 2008 9:15amSteve J. at Radamisto notices that even though Barack Obama hasn't even been sworn in yet, Sean Hannity is organizing the wingnuts already into a would-be force to attempt to stop him from enacting "radical" policies:
Since the election, Hannity has described his radio show as the outpost of "the conservative underground," as if a show that's legally on over 500 stations could be underground in any real sense of that word. There is little doubt that there are many conservatives who think America will become a radical country under the Democrats and last night I heard on Mike Gallagher's show of a group that is trying to organize these people - Grassfire. They ask people to "join the resistance" and sign a petition that opposes what they mistakenly think will happen if unopposed.
They hope to have 1,000,000 signatures on the petition by Inauguration Day and right now, they are quite a bit short of that goal ...
Hannity has been embarrassing himself regularly lately by promoting every conspiracy theory in sight about Obama. Expect the pace to pick up as the Inauguration approaches -- and really take off afterward.
Conservatives are expected to oppose Obama, naturally. But only wingnuts will believe every bit of garbage thrown at him and spin it into a massive belief system about the looming oppression of a socialist state, yadda yadda yadda. It probably would happen to any elected Democrat, but it will be even worse for Obama.
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It's like David Sirota said on Fox last week...please keep talking smack about FDR and Obama. It only helps our cause.
I doubt any of these fools have fired up a splif in their lives...
I go onto Hannity.com and debate the wingnuts on the website's forums....as of right now, there is a huge thread where they're arguing that Obama has broken federal law over the dumping of his grandmother's ashes in Hawaii. So yes, on Christmas, they're calling for the impeachment of Obama for memorializing his Grandmother. These people have no shame.
... is like visiting a room full of crying frightened children. All the wingnuts, in one place, at one time -- whimpering that the sky is falling. A true Curiosity Shoppe, but watch where you step ...
Particularly dead grandmas.
They hate Christmas, too.
And puppies.
And don't ever let them get started on baby ducks.
They still don't get that bit about "high crimes and misdemeanors" do they?
Funny thing is Obama isn't very liberal at all.
People say.."he is the most liberal senator"...I wish!!!
Can't have a liberal in charge.
'Conservative'? Now there's a word that hasn't racked up any negative connotations in the last 8 years.
These people are so clueless. They have crashed and burned as a political movement on an epic scale. It's as if the owners of the Hindenberg were to say, "Let's patch her up and then take her up again tomorrow." Morons!
I know, right? it has always been completely baffling to me when they refer to him as a liberal.
he's moderate, at the most.
you have to frame him as the opponent you wish you had.
If they were framing Obama like the moderate conservative he is, conservatards themselves would have little to complain about, and thus they would be forced to get real jobs and do something constructive for a living...
But these are the same people who would complain about the evil liberals taking the country in the wrong direction, even when conservatives controlled all branches of government... They are professional victims. They can't do anything if it does not involve whining...
and all that coordinated UNCONTESTED repetition will allow them to turn obama into a 'socialist' for the rest of the media. and as long as that monopoly continues to be ignored by dems/liberals it will continue to move the country's center right, or at least make enough people believe that to enable their corporate politicians.
Angry White Men.
Three words of advice:
Get over it!
ummmm what radical changes? seems to me they will be well pleased with obamas programs cause he sounds more like rice then he does a liberal!
Policy doesn't really matter to them. Look at Clinton. Republicans should've loved him but they hated him because he was a Dem.
liberals will be thrown under the bus *again* in order to appease these assholes.
At some point Dems, esp. the DLC apparatus, remind me of the quintesential abusive relationship. Where the abused tries to gain the approval of the abuser in vain. Even to the point the abused start turning their backs on those who actually love and care about their well being (their family and friends) in a last ditch effort to gain the validation from the abuser. A validation that will never come...
You are only abused as far as you let someone abuse you. Can someone tell the Dems this?
Our group here doesn't take much shit from anyone. We have to spread it to others.
real democracy and bipartisanship is impossible as long as jerks like hannity can blowhard all over the country lying and threatening politicians and distorting left causes and his screeners only let his fawning ass kissers on. it won't change until progressives start calling complaining boycotting and picketing the local talk stations and their local sponsors who continue to dominate the local public airwaves with guys that have been proven wrong about everything important. essential changes on energy and global warming strategy will be delayed by these fools enabling filibusters in the senate in the next few years if they continue to be ignored.
I keep saying that these dirtbags will never get tired of running their mouths. Nor do I believe the otherwise on-target David Sirota when he says Hannity, etal are helping the case for sanity. Again, we underestimate these awful human beings at our own peril. The bigger the lies, the more likely it is that they will be believed. One more thing: Hannity is too stupid and insane to feel embarrassment over the things he says. Just like Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Prager, and a whole host of fellow travelers.
Do not underestimate these fuckers. Denounce and discredit them - daily, hourly, if that's what it takes.
i would like the gop wingnuttery like hannity,
billo and the rest of the hateful evangelists
to recognized the danger of their foul mouths
and eat what they sow. bush made a very dangerous
law in being able to declare anyone an
ENEMY COMBATANT. obama should use this very
powerful unnecessary protection for America
and declare all these assholes ENEMY COMBATANTS
and make their war against the American public
just go away.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
It will be the same CIA secret government, the same or maybe more secret budget, the same more or less secret coup d'estats, et al.
It will be the same Military Industrial Media Complex.
It will be the same Humongous Pharmaceutical empire.
It will be the same Fat Cat Wall Street Crooks, they went bust but they are in Bail Out Heaven now.
It will be the same Big Oil Tycoons, prices are down but they will be back.
Have I forgotten anyone?
Oh yes, the Hollywood Limousine Liberals, how could I forget.
Will it be the same TV season, I haven't a clue, I haven't had a TV in years.
As I was saying, it is change you can pretend in.
yeps. 120% correct.
please go to church sunday if you are religious
and ask for brains to start
and to relieve you of your verbal flatulance.
you can ask for a spell checker?
The spelling isn't so bad (even if not entirely correct). Punctuation, on the other hand....
.
The word is 'flatulence'.
When you are attacking someone, as in saying they are an idiot, it is advantageous to not make ridiculous mistakes in the process yourself, lest you look like more of an idiot.
(To Alice x comment above):
I agree.
It is easy to tell you are probably right by the individuals with whom Obama is surrounding himself.
Agreed.
I like Obama, but the most change I expect is a curious, eloquent, and thoughtful president, and more "normalcy" (albeit American-style, as Alice has described.) That does help somewhat, after 8 years of the cowboy idiot. Still, I don't expect a re-shaping of America. The aristocrats won't give up their hold on power. Not without serious action from the serfs (that's you/us).
... a Monster! Several Monsters, in fact. O'R, Hanty, etc. etc. and so on...All these "men" need is a bolt thru their necks.
Do you think anyone would notice if someone switched brains between them?
Looks like these incompetent, paranoid hacks have rebranded themselves into incompetent, paranoid victims. These escapees from a circus freak show have nothing redemptive to offer America except the amusement of watching their desperate tactics while they dig their political graves.
Enjoy your voyage to obscurity Sean, which you richly deserve.
Playing the victim has always been part of their schtick.
Universal Health Care
Full Employment
Equal pay for equal work
A solid infrastructure
An educated populous
Equal Justice under the law
A progressive tax system
Equal Opportunity
Labor Unions in any form
Guaranteed Retirement Benefits
Affordable Medication
Fewer "minorities" in prison
You can see what makes them tick.
I think you mean populace.
The progressive tax system gives them the heebie-jeebies, because it would raise tax rates on those most able to afford them.
And putting some bleach in your bathwater will get rid of the ticks.
After disemploying Americans, pocketing the downsizing money, bankrupting the banks from the resulting foreclosures, bankrupting state budgets from declining sales and income taxes, bankrupting health care from unemployed/unemployable, uninsured, and illegals in the ER?
I believe in ethical free enterprise. These bozos didn't.
Socializing may be the only way to collect damages from the irresponsible corporations and repair America. It ultimately will be seen as a verdict levied by the "court of last resort"--the people.
Good! The more radical the better. I look forward to seeing hannity's ranch/compound/whatever raided by federal agents for domestic terrorism.
That's the way they are headed and personally, I wouldn't mind them expediting it's occurrence. It would be better for America and the irony would be simply delicious.
I'm more concerned about a looming Seinfield state, with all the yada...yada...yadas and Festivus nonsense. The show was a lousy rip-off of the Gary Shandling show on FAUX late 80's.
Was Yada the Jewish cousin from New York of Yoda's, maybe?
Heh.
Year-end Whoppers
December 26, 2008
The bunk just keeps on coming.
Summary
We've often said that the spin never stops in Washington. And the weeks since Nov. 4 offer further evidence of that.
Consider some of the bogus claims we've debunked just since Election Day:
* It's not true that unionized auto workers at Detroit's Big Three make more than $70 an hour, as claimed by some opponents of federal aid.
* And no, 3 million workers won't be tossed out of work if aid is not forthcoming, as claimed by those favoring a taxpayer bailout.
* President-elect Obama never promised to seek a ban on all semi-automatic weapons, as claimed by some fearful gun owners.
* And no, Obama did not propose a Gestapo-like civilian security force as claimed by a Republican member of Congress from Georgia and any number of overwrought bloggers.
* Democrats in Congress are not discussing any plan to confiscate the assets in 401(k) retirement accounts, another falsehood spread about by chain e-mails and Internet postings.
* House Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not demand a 757-size personal jet, a false claim resurrected when Democrats criticized Big Three executives for flying to D.C. on their own private jets to beg for aid.
* And Pelosi's husband doesn't own a $17 million stake in a food company that she may (or may not) have tried to help with an exemption from a new minimum wage law.
What a quaint Twentieth Century concept. To these wingnut folks, the way things really are is much less important than the way they want them to be. How can they hate and be afraid of a pres elect who is making rational, centrist decisions? Where's the fun in that? I'll tell you where the real fun is for me; it's watching these unfortunate folks contort themselves every which way trying to make it seem like Pres Obama could somehow find a way to make the next four years worse than the last eight.
and its coordinated UNCONTESTED repetition
More like 'Assfire.' Goddammit. now I can't get Terence and Phillip out of my head. Sorry, Terence and Phillip.
This'yll help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeKGWVA0uqA
Does anyone like the term Hannity uses, the "conservative underground" and how it reminds of "weather underground"? And how "Grassfire" is like "Prairie Fire", the weather underground's book? Who do they wannabe?
They are playing pretend. They have pretended to have America's interests at heart. That did not work so now they are playing (guerrilla) army men.
Obama hasn't even been sworn-in yet and everyone is riding him:
1. the Gays (for Rick Warren)
2. Pro-Choice Women (for Rick Warren)
3. the Peacenicks (for Rick Warren)
4. the Religious Right (for Rick Warren)
5. FIXED Noise (for defeating the Old Coot McCain)
Ah, yes. The next four years should be a hoot. I sure hope Obama manages to get something accomplished.
You should see the garbage that gets published in our local (AR) papers. I learned this week that Obama is also a Hindu. I also found out that the plan to ban semi-automatic weapons has now been extended to a program to ban all weapons, moving on to handguns and then to single shot hunting weapons. I bet most of you didn't know these "facts"!
What we have here is a fine example of the law of unintended political consequences. Political junkies and propagandists often seem to have no idea what kind of impression they are predictably making on the general public. I've often made a nuisance of myself pointing out the myriad ways in which liberals give aid and comfort to Republicans.
Well, here we have right wingers pulling the same stuff. Hannity w/o realizing it, is actually engaged in a massive propaganda effort to discredit conservative opposition to Obama. He has absolutely nothing factually legitimate to hold against Obama and is a millionaire pundit absurdly painting himself as some lone, oppressed voice in the wilderness standing up to oppressive opposition. Most people are going to see that and think "What an asshole." Especially since the public saw this before with the Clinton administration and the eight years of bogus scandals that ended with Clinton having one of the highest approval ratings of any president in history. Hannity seems to think he's hitting Obama big time when all he's really doing is hitting his own opposition in the nuts. And with Alan Colmes out the picture he's going to be even more out of control. Really, this entry should have been posted yesterday. it's Christmas!
Impassioned political boneheads habitually scream and play victim about stuff that isn't really happening. When people don't treat them with the seriousness and consideration they think they deserve it's always somebody else's fault. Our side does it all the time with the identity politics crowd, especially feminists, being particularly problematic. (Duke lacrosse, anyone?)
Forgive them, Lord. They know not what they do. Then hit them when they think they're in the clear.
they continue to enable the media and GOP politicians who use their propagandized widespread constituency as cover for their corporatism.
...but I would submit that there is a definite breaking point in terms of overall public credibility for this kind of stuff and that the Republicans have successfully passed it.
ago
Hey, don't blame the feminists for the treatment of the Duke lacrosse team. A lying stripper and a blowhard prosecutor with an eye for pushing his own career get credit for that fiasco, extra credit going to the prosecutor.
" I love the smell of smouldering wingnuttery in the morning ,smells like karma coming home."
Cant wait for O Lielly to have Senator Franken on for a heavyweight bout.
Oh I thought it was shit of O'Lielly.
Why didn't hannity organize repugs to prevent bush from shredding the constitution? Not radical enough I suppose.
I have posted similar comments on C/L before and you have my apology for sounding like a broken record. That said, not enough attention is paid to the underlying philosophy of the Right Wing. They believe that all power should be in the hands of a few elite rich white men. They see Democracy as a danger to the stability of the world simply because you cannot trust the masses of people. Of course they cannot run for election on such a policy so they must by the nature of their world view lie, cheat, steal, and make themselves into victims because the end always justifies the means. The part I have never gotten is so many average lower middle class American voters have bought into the act and feel if they win somehow they become part of the ruling class.
Don't worry they want to impeach Obama because he has a positive attitude. The republicans are so bitter, bitter especially talk radio. They are scared to death they are finally loosing their hold on people and they can't blame the fairness doctrine.
They all are just reverting to Clinton mode.
and Ken Starr is warming up on the sidelines...
Actually he's representing the Proposition 8 people to force divorce all the gay couples permitted in California until the proposition was passed.
Over the years the GOP has purged everyone that isn't an idiot of buffoon. Hannity will get the knuckle draggers frothing and that is what all of America will see. Wonder how long the GOP will even be able to hold on to the South?
How do you embarrass someone that is so stupid they don't even understand what you said, much less why they should be embarrassed about it.
It's like the whole party is retarded.
I am not sure what you do? It's not good to put restrictions on the intelligence of voters, we did that once upon a time and it was abused.
They don't like schools and learning stuff.
So what do you do when part of the voters are to stupid to vote?
just haven't been bizarre enough for Hannity and his crack pot followers. Apparently all the outright criminality and incompetency of the last eight years under the Bush Regime was just hunky-dory. The bottom line is the NeoCons and their anti Constitutional and anti freedom agendas are getting the big boot out of OUR Government and they don't like it one bit. Isn't interesting that now they are complaining because it's bad mojo for one political party to be in power. It didn't seem to bother them when it was the Republicans were the ones that were power. What exactly did they think was going to happen?? The Republicans have literally destroyed this country from the inside out, seemingly on purpose...and they are wondering why most of their worthless asses have been fired? Maybe, just maybe Obama is a one in a million politician who they can't find any dirt on, so they are going to just create it out of thin air and hope enough people will believe them, and they say liberals wear tin foil hats??? Socialism??? Bush is giving TARP money to the Car companies...which it wasn't intended for. If Congress had known Bush would do that, any bail out of the financial companies would not have happened either, and Hannity is accusing Obama of being a socialist???
Yup, yup. AmeriKa is going to be changed back into America (I hope) and it's scaring the living shit out of them. January 20th can't get here soon enough as far as I'm concerned.
Obama throwing his gay supporters under the bus "to reach out" to the right hasn't seem to work. These people still hate him. Pro-choice women who supported Obama and helped get him elected I think your group many be next. I hope you don't mind Michelin marks across your backs.
I'm still waiting until he takes office before I judge him.
I am gay, don't feel thrown under the bus. (Disclaimer: I am Canadian, so... and we do have gay marriage, legal, nationwide.) I think it was incredibly insensitive of him to choose Warren, but not like actually throwing gays under the bus.
We'll see. At this point there is a lot of conjecture. I'll get back to you (you Betcha) after the first few months.
I agree. But I have the feeling it's going to be like Clinton/Gore when the Advocate had their picture on the cover, and then we get slammed with "don't Ask, Don't Tell" and "defense of Marriage Act". So forgive me, but I am a little wary of Obama and any politician with a heavy religious leaning.
Please when it comes to Obama, pay attention to the 'signal' and not the 'noise'. Meaning, focus on the underlying, dominant movements and trends and pay less attention to small occurrences with multiple plausible interpretations. This Rick Warren thing is noise in my book.
I think Obamas group would be hard pressed to find ANY christian preacher who we wouldn't find problems with.
Fundamentalist christian preachers for sure...there are some very liberal preachers out there though. They get little attention in the media however.
They get a lot of attention from the IRS though...
The South seceded from the Union BEFORE Lincoln took office.
The Siege of Fort Sumter began MONTHS before Lincoln took office.
Licoln was confronted with a divided nation the day he took office.
The Democratic Party had split at its convention - over the slavery issue - and had nominated 2 candidates. So it was clear that whoever the Republicans nominated would win the election. In the Lincoln-Douglas Debates Lincoln had defended the right of the Federal Government to impose its will on the States (hence the so-called "States Rights" issue) and thus, when Licoln was nominated the power brokers in The South KNEW their days were numbered unless they seceded.
Hannity is incapable of self humilation. He cashes his checks and natters along.
In fact, we will strive to show respect to President-Elect Obama and focus our criticisms and resistance on issues that impact our nation.
Yeah, how long do you think that'll last?
I'm not defending Hannity but he doesn't believe the shit he's spews. He knows the stupidity of these right wing nuts are making him a rich and powerful man. He knows that whatever he says the morons will believe him. How do you think Hitler came to power?
who gives a shit what this ass spews?
/serious. who?
His proctologist
Especially while he's taking a peek?
of a new Fairness Doctrine... and that's EXACTLY what the new Democrat-controlled-legislature should use to PUT A MUZZLE on that asshole.
Hannity referes to it as a future "CENSORSHIP DOCTRINE." Fine, let him call it whatever he wants. What I want to know is this:
Why should this individual be allowed to use PUBLICALLY OWNED airwaves to spew his hate-filled, inaccurate, misleading, politically motivated opposition to the President? FREE SPEECH has never justified yelling FIRE in a crowded theatre... and basically that's what he's doing every day. Put the brakes on him.
A similar solution would be good for FOX NEWS. A Federal mandate to forced them BOTH to actually practice the promo line, Fair and Balanced. IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT... they can always go to SERIUS radio... wwhere subscribers must PAY A FEE for their drivel. Now, isn't THAT a Fair and Balanced solution to their Concervative RANTINGS? Hannity selling his cock-eyed version of patriotism... is about the same thing as shock jocks selling their soft porn on sat. radio.
I love to see the Conservatives in so much pain. However, it will never make up for the past 28 years.
It's 1992 again. Clinton was crucified the moment the election was over. Same for Obama. At least this time we know what to expect & can hopefully stop it before it gets out of hand.
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