Rep. Pete King does the GOP outreach thing, calls Michael Jackson a 'lowlife,' a 'pervert' and a 'pedophile'
By David Neiwert Monday Jul 06, 2009 3:00pm
Pete King, the noxious Republican congressman from Long Island, made a video for Friends of Pete King for the Fourth of July commenting on "real heroes" and then launching into an attack on the media for covering Michael Jackson's death so assiduously:
King: Yesterday I marched in two Fourth of July parades in Wantagh and Massapequa Park. Today I was talking a walk through Wantagh, here at the American Legion Hall, the firehouse down the street, the fire memorial a few blocks from here. And it really reminded me of, you know, the great men and women who've sacrificed so much for our country -- people fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan today; cops, firefighters, teachers, none of whom really get much credit. And yet for the last, I don't know how long now, this lowlife Michael Jackson, his name, his face and picture is all over the newspapers, television, radio. It's all we hear about, is Michael Jackson.
And let's knock out the psycho-babble. This guy was a pervert, he was a child molester, ah, he was a pedophile, and to be giving this much coverage to him day in and day out, what does that say about us as a country?
I just think it's too -- we're too politically correct. No one wants to stand up and say we don't need Michael Jackson. He died, he had some talent, fine. But people are dying every day. There are men and women dying in Afghanistan. Let's give them the credit they deserve.
I really think the media has disgraced itself. I think there are too many people in public life who have made fools of themselves by talking about Michael Jackson as if he's some kind of hero.
There's nothing good about this guy. He may have been a a good singer, did some dancing. But the bottom line is would you let your child or grandchild be in the same room with Michael Jackson? What are we glorifying him for?
So anyway, let's take some time out to really look to the people that do make this a great country -- the men and women in the armed forces, police, firefighters, teachers who work in really rough neighborhoods, people who volunteer with dying cancer patients, people who work in AIDS clinics -- they're the ones we should be glorifying. Not some pervert like Michael Jackson.
Newsday contacted him to see if he had any second thoughts, and he was unrepentant:
"The bottom line is, he’s a pervert," King said. "He was endangering young children and all these people who say he's a great hero would never let their children or grandchildren near him."
Let's stipulate a couple of things: First, we don't disagree with the sentiment that the media ridiculously over-cover celebrity deaths like Jackson's. Our objection, though, is about the absurdities of the cult of celebrity, and not whether or not Jackson deserved the adulation.
(And it must be pointed out that the adulation heaped upon Jackson is largely the product of the free-enterprise system that Republicans like King vehemently defend at every nook and cranny -- except that belonging to a black man.)
Second, a lot people's recent distaste for Jackson does indeed revolve around the question of his bizarre relationships with children, and we wouldn't minimize those issues either insofar as there is any factual truth in them (nor, for that matter, have they been ignored in the media coverage).
But someone should point a couple of things out to King:
-- Jackson in fact was cleared of all charges relating to his supposed molestation of children. So there is no factual ground for claiming that he was a "pervert" or a "pedophile".
-- It's a fine thing to honor the men and women who perform the many tasks of public service he mentions. But you never honor these people by tearing other people down -- rather the opposite. Vilification of celebrities does nothing to glorify society's unrecognized heroes, and indeed is counter to the very reasons we honor them -- which is to recognize and appreciate the contributions of all hard-working Americans. Including even those who happen to be celebrities.
Finally, speaking of morally degraded people ... one wonders where Pete King's outrage was when it came to the people who created the Bush torture regime. Talk about skewed priorities.
I'm sure that King will be shocked to learn that Jackson fans are now organizing to fund his defeat at the polls.
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So I guess what Pete is saying is that MJ would have made a great Republican.
There is no known Republican who can dance.
I bet Mitt could bust a move! He just seems uptight.
..snap that corn cob in his colon, you might be right!
n/c
Nah. That's called "busting a movement."
But I'll Sarah and Todd can dance.
It may not be viewer friendly though.
Ask A-Rod.
(the legal one, you sickos)
I've seen Michael Steele dance.....everytime he says something that might piss of Rush.
redsaunas Said;
There is no known Republican who can dance.
Catch a Republican doing something crooked and just watch the moves!
Especially the one toe tap dance.
So I guess what Pete is saying is that MJ would have made a great Republican.
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner....
Yep, no need to go on. I don't think we can improve on that one.
But I agree with his point about too much coverage being spent on Jackson's death at the expense of real news.
I would agree too except that this bigot could have made his statement without projecting Republican problems like perversion onto an innocent man like Michael Jackson.
MJ was facing pedo charges. The only reason the charges were dropped was because the victim's family got a big cash settlement and refused to cooperate with the prosecution after that. Even if the charges were in fact false, it doesn't change the fact the MJ was a creepy nutcase.
You're saying it's okay for us to slur and dance on the grave almost every Repulican that has died?
Good to know.
'Creepy nutcase' is a term I usually use for most Republican Christians
Rep. King would be proud.
charged. What this fool, King, is saying is that our justice system is not working. And how could we honor those that died in Iraq and Afghanistan when we were not allowed, under Bush/Cheney, to see their bodies come home? Should we have stalked the bodies? Was this jackass drunk? That would be a partial explanation, anyway.
Michael was innocent just like O.J. was innocent of murder, right?
In criminal court, yes. (The prosecution really sucked.)
In civil court, no. (The prosecution was damn good.)
That's how the system works, like it or not.
I just find it interesting that just about everybody assumes OJ did murder his ex-wife and her friend, even though he was found not guilty in a criminal court, but the same people would assume Michael Jackson could never molest children and point out that "he was aquitted of all charges" as if that is the last word on the subject.
I do think that Peter King was over the top in his statements about Jackson and his wording was very unsophisticated. As Ysbaddaden said, he does come across as some old high school teacher from the 50s who would use the term "nigra". But I don't necessarily disagree with some of his points.
Your 50's analogy is bullshit. The major reason most people(me included) believed that O.J. was dead guilty was because of the overwhelming evidence(particularly the DNA). Micheal Jackson's case was much more convoluted and circumstantial(and money driven).
Hey, disregard my statement. I don't want to battle you.
Chinese proverb: Never argue with an idiot, onlookers can't tell the difference.
I was pointing out what Ysb. had said: that Peter King comes across as someone who is a closet racist and I am agreeing with him. Calling Jackson a "lowlife" is not particularly classy just after the man has passed away.
But it just strikes me as inconsistant that so many people assume OJ is a murderer and yet can't fathom that Michael Jackson could be a pedophile regardless of what has happened in their respective court cases.
those closest to the case acquitted him. but they, who participated in the trial, must be wrong because you want to believe OJ is guilty. please examine the DNA evidence and review the chain of custody of that evidence.
I just stated why I believed O.J. to be guilty...my actual point was comparing O.J. to M.J.(two famous, rich black men during their time, both with serious legal troubles) wasn't coincidental, it was racial.
evidence, should have and probably did know that OJ was guilty, and voted not to convict him anyway. They ignored the evidence and voted to go have dinner and drinks with the murderer. But as the "law of three" works, look where he is now. Thank you, Universe.
ok brave person, what do you agree with, have the guts to say rather than hide behind a generalisation."But I don't necessarily disagree with some of his points." You are a typical spineless Rupublican all talk no substance, no ability to have the courage to actually say something with meaning. Get back to the gutter, you are missed by the other rats there.
I thought the music was great. Although I am over the 80s. I grew up with the J5. Their music was timeless. But MJ was a loon. A very sick man who, paid $20 million to silence a childs accusation. An innocent person with that much money fights a charge if its false. He didnt. 10 years later same thing.
Yeah as much as it is clear that OJ was guilty, I do think Michael Jackson probably had unapropriate relationships with kids. The american justice system sucks, it benefits the rich and powerfull more than all, and of what I heard in the Daily show, he Californian seems the worst.
Jackson was a musical genious, King is a lying hypocrite douchebag and is the The Pot Calling The Kettle Black, but this doesn't change that MJ was a sexual creep. All the fault of his brutal oppressive father, sure, but nonetheless his musical legacy will allways be tainted by the creepy old guy he became.
"Innocent"? With what we know about Jackson, would YOU have left your 6-year-old alone in a room with him?
some news about MJ instead of Sara. It's about time the media covered something important. Oh wait.
for more of the Michael And Sarah Show, with tonight's special guest Kermit the Frog!!! E-He!
..... and no one under 50 ever voted Republican again!...The End!
Would you let your 10 year old alone with MJ?
NOW people would.
I'd let a ten-year-old of mine hang out with a Republican congressman.
This is going to be a good thread, I can feel it.
I agree, Bonkers! You guys are funny :)
The next "wide stancer."
But, I seem to recall that Mr. Jackson was not convicted of any crimes. Granted you can say OJ wasn't convicted of murder either, but I find it wrong to waylay MJ just because he's no longer around to defend himself or buy his way out, whichever you prefer.
Peter King is a god damn asshole but..
Did you feel that way about OJ? I don't know if Jackson ever molested any kids. It kind of looked like some kids families got pretty rich off the deal though. I would think that King would be happy that Jackson took the spotlight off of Governor Argentina and Mrs Skillsaw. Why did King think it was necessary to even bring up Michael Jackson. Now he has brought more attention to him. Maybe king knows that there is another Republican ready to come out of the closet or something so he wants to keep the camouflage up.
And he is in jail. I clearly stated my feelings on the OJ comparison. I think Jackson was pretty screwed up and opened himself up to being accused of molestation, especially the admission of sharing beds with kids. But there's been no hard (no pun intended) evidence of it. I just prefer to remember MJ my own way. I'd rather not know the truth in this case, as it's like finding out your favorite actor/actress is a right-wing a-hole.
It's all good. I was more referring to the original post but since you brought up OJ I just put it here. What you said is right on.
Yes and so was OJ, and we all bought that one too wink wink nudge nudge!
It doesn't mean they didn't do it, it just means they were cleared of it!
There was not enough evidence to convict them. A different concept.
he's against pedophilia. The pun was not intended--it just appeared naturally.
I wouldn't want my kids any where near a 'police officer' or 'soldier' but, unlike Micheal Jackson, they would force themselves on to my kids regardless of my or my kids' preferences.
HAHAHAHA! I bet King didn't see THAT coming! If that "Leave Brittney Alone" guy throws in with the Jackson fans, King is cooked for sure.
:D
(sorry. I meant that to be my own post. My comment doesn't make much sense as a response to yours, v)
Redundant.
King is an embarrassment to NY.
Anyway my congress person, Steve Israel is much better. I write him often.
CBC did a story on Mr Israel and his fight to help an Iraqi translator who worked for the US army.
This poor guy had family members killed by fellow Iraqis and his life was in grave danger. He begged the military for help but they abandoned him. He and his family fled to Syria and ended up living in a tent at the Red Cross shelter in Damascus.
I've always wondered what happened to them.
It's pretty scary when a "lawmaker" doesn't understand the laws of this country. Guilty until proven innocent. MJ was never found guilty of anything. Sure I have my doubts of his innocence but when his family and fans are grieving I don't think calling him a pedophile is a compassionate move. Stay classy King.
was not proven beyond reasonable doubt. However, King was spot on about the media. They report on King's comments and go right back to the Michael Jackson wall to wall non-stop idiotic coverage.
......enough already about MJ. He had talent for sure, but you have to admit he was a freak. It does tend to diminish others by glorifying him.
exactly who is being "diminished"?
Back in my day, we proudly called ourselves freaks. Because we were different from GOP stiffs. Still are. Don't make me get big on you.
perhaps the p king should take a closer
look at his reflection in his toilet
if he can get a clear image with all
his brains-like objects bobbing around.
You have dissected this whole issue quite well, making excellent points about where Rep. King was in the issue of torture (nowhere) and Michael Jackson's success being founded on Republican principles of free enterprise.
While Jackson may indeed have been a pedophile, Rep. King is a lawmaker who shows no respect for the law by claiming publicly that Jackson is a "pervert" when he was acquitted in a court of law. The word is also inflammatory, which is an unwise move on the part of a politician, who should always weigh his words. How funny that Jackson fans are now organizing to defeat Rep. King.
I tell you, Republicans need to start having more respect for the power of karma!
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I still swear he looks like a 60's era deranged cracker boy's gym coach/vice principal.
I have expect him to say nigra.
from Nigra Falls. Ain't he from where fine Americans live like Joey Buttafucco?
Well...it's true.
So how does one demonstrate one's distaste for all the Michael Jackson coverage? Why, by mentioning him in a completely unrelated 4th of July speech, of course! Way to go, Pete!
Jackson was an adult who liked to have 10-year-old boys sleep in the same bed with him. Other than sickness, perversion, whatever, can you explain this? He was a talented singer/dancer/performer who was warped and twisted by a terrible childhood. Maybe it wasn't his fault, but he was not someone who should be placed on a pedestal the way he has been since he died.
my explanation for it (not necessarily that it's true) has been this:
He was an innocent, over naive if you will, so effed up in the head that he never grew up emotionally. So he saw nothing inappropriate in sharing a bed with another (in his mind) child. Stayed the samed talented child he was supposed to be.
It's not gospel but there it is. He was a really good entertainer until his oddities got out of hand. Oh well.
Or he could have been a big ol' rich Hollywood perve.
What I always found curious about MJ's case is that nobody ever found tons of kiddie porn in his home, on his computer, whatever. The presence of kiddie porn seems to be a common denominator in cases involving child molesters. Do I think MJ was strange - you bet. A pedophile - no, not really. Just a guy with a strange affection for children. Why did he pay off those parents instead of going to trial? Well, when you're a star of Michael Jackson's stature, paying is always cheaper than litigation.
I think you just about covered it. He was weird, but he was pretty much a victim of his (lack of) childhood.
And yes, paying is cheaper than a trial for someone who values his privacy and is incredibly wealthy.
but it's really difficult for me to believe that could grow up in the music business...and everything that goes along with it...and reach adulthood that innocent.
It's a theory....but lest you forget, he was always in a bubble surrounded by sychophants and enablers. But in the end he still should be held responsible for his actions, whatever they were.
Maybe precisely because he grew up in that business. The emotional isolation of being really nothing more than a trained pet, a parent's cash machine, removed from everyone except the handlers who manage your every move. And Michael lived this life since he was 10 years old! Hell, people who go into show business in their 20's have ended up getting really messed up in the head. I'm not necessarily apologizing for the guy, just saying that this was an emotionally compromised, complex individual. Smarter people than I will have to figure him out.
it's possible that, as a child, he never slept with other children or even had many childhood friends and was trying to make up for lost time.
...the "he never grew up emotionally" excuse from somebody else whose father was an overbearing monster who somehow robbed them of their childhood but who didn't end up as a famous singer?
What if it was Michael Jackson, the cashier from your local grocery? Would it be OK for him to have sleepovers with other peoples' kids then?
It's inappropriate for him to behave the way he did, I'm just throwing out another good explanation for his oddness. So you can lay off with the crap.
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/king_of_...
feelings for him one last time? Did you listen to that thing who is supposedly his father? No wonder he was so broken.
King probably wasn't projecting a bit.
Given which Party had given us the clusterfucks in Iraq and Afghanistan; given which party seems to corner the market on sexual perversity (hello, "Diaper Dave" Vitter! Hello, Mark Foley! How was Argentina, Mr. Sanford??) Two topics RepubliCONS should stay away from are War and Pedophilia.
If anything MJ is taking away attention from the perverts at his very own GOP...
You assume he wants that attention diverted. He could be from the "as long as they spell my name right" school of name recognition.
I remember when President Reagan and Nancy Reagan invited Michael Jackson to the White House for the "War on Drugs" campaign.
Jackson was acquitted of not just one, but, all the twenty-plus trumped up charges brought forth by a very vicious and spiteful District Attorney who went out his way to get Jackson. A "true American" would respect that jury verdict, and understand that Jackson was found "not guilty," of all those trumped up charges, or, lies by that corrupt D.A. in California. It is high time that Americans start respecting these jury verdicts, if you love this country as you claim.
On another note----people in all walks of life in America do wonderful things for the United States of America, beyond just policemen, firefighters, nurses and soldiers, contrary to Peter King's immature comments. Why is it that soldiers who kill for a living are always held so high by the likes of Peter King? Yes, actors, actresses and musicians are also part of the American fabric. Right-wingers are hostile towards actors, actresses and musicians, so Peter King's comments are consistent with right-wing venom.
Who do the troops get entertained by, when they are in certain battle theatres of war around the world, in the USO Tours? The same types of people who will attend Jackson's Memorial Service tomorrow. People like Mariah Carey and Sheryl Crow.
Was Jackson perfect? No, but, neither is the very glib and insensitive Peter King. I cannot remember Peter King ever saying anything which actually uplifts the human spirit either. Peter King is a very hateful man. Peter King has no shame.
Right-Wing Nut: I love the U.S. Constitution. I have been in war to defend that U.S. Constitution, too. I bet you haven't.
WizardLeft1: No, I have not been in war, But, I also support that same U.S. Constitution as you....
Right-Wing Nut: Is that all you can say?
WizardLeft1: I love the Bill of Rights, and you?
Right-Wing Nut: I am the one who defended those rights for you.
WizardLeft1: No, the courts uphold those laws, even as you fight, including due process laws protected by the U.S. Constitution.
Right-Wing Nut: Screw due process....justice system is awful today in America and let's out these awful criminals while us law-abiding citizens (Gag Here) pay our taxes...Lock all those criminals up and throw away the key.
WizardLeft1: I thought you went to war to defend that U.S. Constitution.
Right-Wing Nut: What the hell are you talking about, wimp?
WizardLeft1: Forget about it....it's just called due process protected by the U.S. Constitution.
Right-Wing Nut: I have had it with these bogus due process rights when criminals like Michael Jackson can walk free in my country!
WizardLeft1: I see you do not respect those due process rights you claimed to have defended when you were a soldier. I mean Jackson was acquitted of not just one, but, all the twenty-plus trumped up charges brought forth by a very vicious and spiteful District Attorney.
Right-Wing Nut: Jackson should have died in prison.
WizardLeft1: Nothing personal, but a "true American" would respect that jury verdict, and understand that Jackson was found "not guilty." I hope you can respect that jury verdict, if you love this country as you claim to.
Right-Wing Nut: FU too.
WizardLeft1: Thanks for your infinite wisdom.
Just another example of a right wing Republican spewing pure hatred and bile....
and FYI for Michael jackson haters- Jackson was NOT convicted, and at least one of his accusers admitted the accusations were lies...
Granted, the coverage of Jackson's death may be 24/7, but that's not his fault- the media obsesses over any story dealing with the death of a high profile figure..Just remember the non stop coverage when Princess Diana died..
She WAS a rich blond white woman.....that makes her coverage justifiable!
;)
He may have been the King of Pop, but she was the Princess of Wales.
Thriller may have had popular appeal, but I prefere the Song of the Humpback Wales any day.
George or Gracie?
Psst....Gracie's pregnant....she the hell told me.
then again perhaps i did too much 'LDS' in college..
replace Shatner and Nimoy with two REALLY HOT guys, but it still won't be Star Trek to me. ;)
Altho, I did enjoy the new cast, just not the story.
Thread-jack over.
Mon, 07/06/2009 - 16:55 — Tom Servo
Those missionaries can get pretty pesky
Especially when I was doing too much antacid in college.
She never gave a interview telling how much she liked to sleep with little girls.
A better comparison would be that blond bombshell in the Bahamas. Please not need to say her name. I'm happy to have forgot it.
Letters to Constituents
King is known for a very blunt attitude. In 2005 he generated controversy due to his heated replies to some letters from his constituents. He says he only responds harshly when someone writes a harsh letter to him, but many have posted written conversations with his reply letters online, and claim he is condescending at best.
A constituent wrote to ask King to censure George W. Bush and King's office wrote in reply,
"I understand that you recently contacted my office requesting that I vote to censure President Bush.
I disagree with you in every respect. You are morally, intellectually and politically wrong. President Bush is an outstanding leader of outstanding integrity. Like Ed Koch I thank God every night that he is our President. You should do the same.
Very truly yours, Pete T King"
[ http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pe... ]
Just when I thought Al D'amato was the last word on GOP assholism. Along came Pete King.(Still, Rudy beats them all in spades)
NY-we have more than our share of hypocritical Republican assholes.
It's all part of the mindset.
These guys like to set themselves up as fearless upholders of morality.
Then again,how much guts does it take to trash talk a dead guy?
What a He-ro.
How dismissive of him to write such a thing to a constituent. What gall!
Thanks for the link, TC.
Peter King - a hemorrhoid on the asshole of the State of NY.
What is it about guys named Peter or Dick?
n/t
hemi
Wow - can you imagine the political posturing and media frenzy when Elvis eventually passes away???
LOL, matt!
It's funny, right wing Elvis supporters like to downplay Elvis's addiction to drugs- yet condemn Jackson for his addiction....
in admiration of the King.
Elvis has a huge following amongst the soutern white power groups..
Plus Elvis's fame was basically on the backs of black artists- he took songs written by black people and claimed they were his..
That's not really the case. Sun Records bought a lot of music from various artists that were not getting attention in the established media. That included both black and white artists. Many songs were recorded by one artist, and when a song didn't make it, Sun would (legally) give it to another artist to see if he could make a hit of it.
There's no question the delta sound originated in the black communities, but to say Elvis "took" songs and claimed they were his is just wrong.
(He'll confirm that on his next comeback tour....)
from artists including james brown. elvis talent does not change the facts of where he got a lot of his stuff.
Elvis never claimed to have originated any of the music that he sang. In fact, he was quite open about the fact that he was an entertainer, not a songwriter or a musician.
FWIW, I'm only a very early Elvis fan and think he was Elsuckorama afterwards ... the biographers and historians all say Elvis was a mensch when it came to his dealings with black musicians, esp. those whose work he was performing -- made sure writers were paid, etc. The performance world was still highly segregated at the time and he was limited by his label and Col. Parker in what he could do (esp. when it came to playing with black musicians on the road), but all of those black contemporaries had nothing but nice things to say about him, even years afterward.
Here's a decent piece about it from the Memphis paper, with a great quote from Chuck D:
claimed they were his. It was Led Zeppelin.
... pulling all the strings for Elvis sure made sure he kept black songwriters such as Otis Blackwell hidden in the background. We really can't let it out that we're lifting everything from dem dang Negros now, can we? ... It's kind of like stealing when you don't give another credit, isn't it?
..for some of that practice (at least in the 50's) though. At that time, 'race' records and charts were still the norm and there weren't any crossover artists to speak of, except for maybe Nat "King" Cole and Ella Fitzgerald. When Richard wrote a new classic, white kids would display the Pat Boone version on top of the dresser and keep the "genuine" Little Richard version hidden in the sock drawer. Maybe Parker had good reason at that time to distance his 'client' from black artists and culture.
First, the Colonel wasn't in the picture in the early days of Elvis' career. What he might or might not have thought isn't terribly relevant before he came on the scene.
I can't think of a single instance where a songwriter has come forward with a legitimate claim that Elvis recorded something without proper attribution or payment.
And please keep in mind that until the 60's and 70's, a singer/songwriter was a rarity. You were one or the other, but not both. Most songwriters before then labored in relative obscurity. (For that matter, that's the case even now.)
Keep it under your hat but.....
Michael's still around.
Jackson might be jamming with Jim morrison and Elvis, and lounging on the beaches of Fiji..
If you wanted to fake your own death with a conspiracy that took over 10 years to set up, wouldn't you, on the day after your supposed death, have your picture taken in public just about everywhere?
I know I would...and did.
ooops.
Very very funny Matt.
By Azi Paybarah June 1, 2009 - 3:41pm
Snip - Here’s a fund-raising Web video from Representative Peter King of Long Island, just posted online, in which he appeals for money by bashing the media.
[ http://www.politickerny.com/3809/peter-king-f... ]
"There's nothing good about this guy. He may have been a a good singer, did some dancing."
Well see Pete?Right off the bat I'm thinkin' well Hell,he made a lot of folks happy.So you know.That's something.
..but can understand the wisdom of your post. I won't argue with anybody over Jesus stuff either, long as I'm not forced to listen to it.
It makes me wonder what kind of assholes voting for this piece of shit, I live among with. And to be honest I don't even care about MJ.
Years ago, King wasn't all that bad for a Republican. Now he's a complete obnoxious whack job
they even shoot the black cops. those people are King's base.
I don't have any beef with local enforcement here and to be honest, that happened in NYC, not LI. I don't have any problems with the police and I respect them. Yes, you see mostly white cops, but the test is damn hard so instead of cops you get geeks on uniform.
The problem I have with some cops is the way they protect each other when they commit crimes instead of being the first ones to condemn it. What kind of respect can you have with someone who defends criminals, any criminal?
Remember, he says global warming is hooey. Long Island is, well, an "island". The expected sea level rise will bring issues for "islands". The constituents won't be needing a rep before long. They will live in another district.
I swear there are a lot of people that are tired of their jobs and just try to be as outrageous as possible, trying to rocket themselves to fame and fortune. If we made a list...
Ann Coulter
Beck
BillO
Poor little Sarah Palin
Perez hilton
Leave Britney alone guy
...
http://www.slate.com/id/2115135/entry/2115249/
King might be a complete moron, but sorry, Jackson was nothing more than a child molester who got off because of his wealth and fame.
I don't know if he was a child molester or not, but just because some questionable porn was found at Neverland, doesn't mean it was his.
Would a molester with an alleged predicliction for young boys be interested in Penthouse or Plumpers?
Just wondering.
and introduced as evidence....oh and from CBS News
One book, called "Boys Will Be Boys," featured an image of fair-haired boys in swimsuits jumping into water.
The book contained an inscription written by Jackson: "Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys' faces, this is the spirit of boyhood, a life I've never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children."
The jury also was shown the cover of a book called "The Boy: A Photographic Essay." It also contained an inscription that said: "To Michael from your (heart symbol) fan, XXXOOO, 'Rhonda."' The note was dated 1983.
Smith said both books featured boys "playing, swimming, jumping."
Prosecutor Ron Zonen said earlier that one book was about 90 percent pictures of nude boys and the other about 10 percent.http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/29/entertainment/main691878.shtml
There are way too many of these stories about the trial online. The man, if not guilty, was at least guilty of child pornography. A non-rich non-celeb would have went to jail for that.
You seem like some kind of PURITAN. Chill out. Nothing you're saying here is a crime. I don't even find it morally offensive.
Now if they found videos of him "doing" young boys, that might be different.
I've seen all kinds of thing on-line. It doesn't mean I condone or partake in them, but if they seized my computer, I might look guilty of something.
another reason I use my ignore user function. Just when I think of taking him off, he give me good reason to keep hiim on the list. Thanks, Edwin!
Where are you getting your information from? Your link does not work. Have you heard the phrase, "Let sleeping dogs lie?" I have one for this situation: "Let dead people go in peace." And yet another, "Judge not lest ye be judged." Show a little class.
I think many are hesitant to label Jackson a pedophile because of what is known about his so called "lost childhood".Much has been made of this and Michael's sad(pathetic really)attempts to recreate the youth that eluded him first time around.Of course none of this means that he wasn't a child molester,but it does make people stop and give him the benefit of a doubt-unless you're a loud mouthed PUG that is...
A lot of us had crappy childhoods and fathers who hit them. OK, it wasn't the best childhood but he also never went hungry or had to worry about where to sleep. Plenty of children have much worse lives.
..didn't get a hold of those magazines while they were lying around the mansion though.
My dad's smut collection was forever going missing once me and my brother hit puberty.
As for me..... I could never say.
People like you think that folks getting out of crime because they're famous or rich is something new.
I do take pause at the people who are convinced he is a child molester, because I just don't see it. Questionable behavior? Undoubtedly. But child molester? There is no way you have the kind of information that would lead you to a fact based decision.
Its all circumstantial evidence.
Dave Chapelle does an excellent joke about this exact topic. He mentioned that the only reason people felt ok with making fun of Michael and the child molestation allegations is because he was a "ghoulish freak".... and then juxtaposed this idea with priests having sex with kids. Saying "if I made a joke about priests f'ing kids this room would get quiet as shit"...... which the audience roaring with laughter during the first part of the joke. suddenly fell dead silent during the second part of the joke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3OXajS_IFg
Peter King: "We should be honoring the troops"
Where was King when BushCo was "honoring" the troops by sending them off to fight in a trumped up war then hiding their flag draped coffins from the cameras?
MJ is a hero to many, an icon. Not me, like King I think he is a little suspicious. Sorry, King called him a pedophile. But like I said, many people worshiped him and a family is mourning from his death. King was thug and a complete dickwad for his attacks at this time.
Many of us thought Reagan was a lowly heartless man when it came to the lower and middle class. Could you imagine if someone came out a week after Reagan died and made such vicious attacks, right or wrong? People like King and probably King would be calling for us to be jailed.
Please excuse this bigoted, loud mouthed New Yorker. Peter King is just another of the platoons of racist REPUBLITHUGS who are angry white men because they've lost the power!
Its not like Jackson was black
wrong.
Peter King has consistently and uniformly voted for war crimes for over 7 years. While he was blathering about a relatively insignificant person, there were over 30 people murdered in the middle east.
What does Mr. King have to say about his participation in the greatest war crimes of this century? That he's a patriot?
Peter "Death" King is more like it.
of King (or mj for that matter) but other than him evidently having a crystal ball and thus KNOWING mj was guilty he's not too far off. Similarly to say mj was 'cleared of all charges' is a bit of a stretch - I mean c'mon, if something DID happen mj bought the victims silence. Not exactly exoneration city is it?
What we do know is he seemed to be stuck in adolescence with interviews where he STILL doesn't see a potential problem with a grown man sleeping with kids - minimum a bit the freak I'd say...possibly much worse...
Use a patriotic event to take a dump on a dead man. These GOPers just can't seem to get out of attack mode, regardless of the circumstances.
You stay classy, Pete!
P.S. "No one wants to stand up and say we don't need Michael Jackson."
Well, I'll stand up and say we don't need right-wing pricks like you.
How's that for being politically correct?
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