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Sean Hannity went out on a long, long limb yesterday on Neil Cavuto's Fox News show -- once again promoting his blueprint for Conservative Victory -- and made a bold prediction:

Hannity: You put all of this in toto, in its entirety, and we are looking at -- not only the socialization, the Europe-ization of -- the Western European socialist model coming to America, we're looking at a -- the end of capitalism in America as we know it.

I want to add a point. He is -- by far, I predict, Neil -- and I say this with all sincerity and passion that I can muster up -- he will go down in American history as the worst president we have ever had.

And I'm talking about national security, and I'm talking about economic issues.

Gee, he's been in office a little over year now and he's already making this prediction?

And won't Obama have a heck of a time doing a worse job than his predecessor, George W. Bush?

After all, as Sean Wilentz predicted in Rolling Stone in 2006:

George W. Bush's presidency appears headed for colossal historical disgrace. Barring a cataclysmic event on the order of the terrorist attacks of September 11th, after which the public might rally around the White House once again, there seems to be little the administration can do to avoid being ranked on the lowest tier of U.S. presidents. And that may be the best-case scenario. Many historians are now wondering whether Bush, in fact, will be remembered as the very worst president in all of American history.

The right-wingers dismissed that because it was Wilentz, a noted liberal. But sure enough, a survey of 80 historians for C-SPAN three years later found:

President George W. Bush is near the bottom of the heap in the latest survey of historians on presidential leadership. Bush received an overall ranking of 36 out of 42 former presidents—in the bottom 10.

Actually, we'd say that there's little doubt he was indeed the worst president in history just on the two counts that Hannity stipulates, namely, national security and the economy:

-- The worst attack ever recorded on American soil occurred on his watch, while he was in fact asleep at the wheel.

-- His subsequent policies, particularly the decision to invade Iraq, made the nation quantifiably less safe for the foreseeable future (see the 2006 National Intelligence Estimate for more on this).

-- Bush and his policies nearly destroyed not just the American economy but drove the entire global economy to the brink of complete meltdown.

Projection. It's not just for theaters anymore.

As we observed at the time of Bush's repudiation:

The swirling global economic crisis produced by Republican rule is only the most prominent debacle produced by eight years of conservative philosophy being put into action. Conservatives never met a deregulation scheme they didn't like -- and it was that very mania for breaking down well-established institutional barriers, particularly in the financial sector, that led to the housing bubble and the collapse on Wall Street. Certainly, Democrats played along, often eagerly -- but they were being conservative when they did.

No doubt the solutions to the economic crisis will entail re-regulating the financial sector and imposing strict government oversight. And when they do, no doubt conservatives will accuse Democrats of indulging "socialism". But it is to laugh: the right has earned all the credibility of Joe the Plumber on such matters.

Especially when you consider all the other fruits of conservative governance:

* Foreign-policy debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan.

* A government that invades nations under false pretenses.

* A nation less secure and at greater risk of terrorist attacks than ever.

* A sinking economy.

* An expanding gap between rich and poor.

* Utter inaction on global warming.

* $5-a-gallon gasoline.

* An unresolved immigration problem.

* An incapacity to deal with natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina.

* A debacle in public-school education testing and funding.

* Declining food and consumer-product safety standards.

* A government that spies on its own citizens.

* A government that tortures prisoners held in their detention facilities.

These messes weren't the result of George W. Bush being too liberal and straying too far from the movement's party line. To the contrary -- they're the direct result of him toeing that line to the millimeter. They are all the direct product of the conservative philosophy of governance.

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kdog411's picture

Who cares what that fat piece of shit thinks

Sean Hannity wouldn't recognize sincerity if it were the only other thin in the room.

If it made a donation to his Freedom Concerts he would.


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

DaveZ's picture

If it made a donation to his Freedom Concerts he would (spend it on himself).

So far all that has been shown is that a lot of money goes to "expenses" and very little goes to the cause.

But I don't think we know where it all went and it hasn't been shown going to Hannity yet.

And while this story is being buried, Hannity is doing everything he can to launder the money and not end up in prison.

mnich13's picture

Whenever I feel the need to get some 2-star American conservative thinking on any given topic, I can always count on Sean Hannity to provide. Yup: when I'm looking for failure on an epic scale, Hannity's my guy.

Turn the Bluegrass Blue's picture

2-star?!

You grading on a curve?!

... it's good enough for me.

WizardLeft1's picture

Obama worse than Bush?

We'll see by 2012. Obama certainly has been continuing much of the Bush program and policies.

It is too bad that Obama has not adopted real leftist policies but has continued this neoliberal corporate economic agenda and continued war mongering policies.

Obama is no Communist or Socialist but very much a staunch corporatist just like Bush was before him. Obama is also a globalist just like Bush and Clinton were before him as well.

Obama has been a dismal failure when it comes to regular Americans. The bank bailouts transferred public wealth to the private banks and now schools across America face budget crisis after budget crisis and Obama continued to blame teachers in tough school districts.

Obama has not attacked the NCLB but prefers to beat up public school teachers because he and Arne Duncan prefer the privatization of "public education."

Obama has also embraced the Faith-Based Initiative adopted by the Bush administration as well. Obama also embraced the Prayer Breakfasts which should have ended by now as well.

Obama so far to me is nothing great folks. I don't agree with the very insane analysis of Obama by Hannity and other right wing crazies but at the same time, Obama is nothing to brag about.

tequilamockingbird's picture

Yes, Obama has disappointed in some ways. But when you get frustrated with him, all you have to do is imagine -- McCain/Palin.

Thank God for Obama.

Slightly and by a hair....Obama is fixing for a war on Iran and Obama's record on civil liberties is awful. Obama is awful in my opinion.

Yes, perhaps, is the lesser of two evils, but, Obama's policies are not so good. I can name policy after policy which mirrors the Bush administration from energy to education to higher military spending than even the Bush administration to civil libereties breaches--FISA continues in full swing to continuing the NCLB, extending the United States Patriot Act, and signing on to the Faith-Based Initiative.....

McCain/Palin are extreme perhaps. Obama is also punitive in his policy choices and has done little to show he is much different than Bush before him.

So, I must agree to disagree with ya here....But I will give you this----Slightly and by a hair...Obama is somewhat better than McCain/Palin but at the end of the day he is pretty Much the Same 'Ole Crap we had during the Bush years.

Hey, "Drill, Baby, Drill"--Barack Obama can go and give Sarah Palin a call on their mutual interest in this regard. They can go drill together and Obama and McCain will soon be bombing Iran together!

Anais's picture

The difference between investigative journalism and the false stuff James O'Keefe et al were peddling to equally false Faux. California AG Jerry Brown just found ACORN staffers were not guilty of any of the "illegal" crap O'Keefe edited his film to make them appear as if they were doing. But Hannity sure touted O'Keefe's false report on ACORN far and wide. Why should anyone believe anything Hannity says? I for one find GW Bush the worst president in my lifetime. That includes Nixon, so that's saying a lot.

glogrrl's picture

after seeing what the "pimp" and the "ho" looked like, that the conservatards did not fall down laughing at the ridiculousness of the whole thing! They treated it as a basic fact with a straight face! That alone should alert the MSM that they were a bunch of lying, freakin' idiots!


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

mnich13's picture

... as the result of Nixon's Watergate scandal. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was well short of "thousands".

Eric Paulsen's picture

How many people have died due to rescission and denial of service since he signed the HMO act?

tapes getting the press they deserve and Hannity et al getting their asses slammed as a result. If I were a person misrepresented by these tapes on Fox and losing my job as a result, I would be looking for many millions in compensation. It is telling that the NY times has not reported on the new revelations. I guess they are worried also. Hannity and Fox were by far the worst however and should be dragged kicking and screaming into the spotlight of truth.

theWalrus's picture

every time these Teatards speak (Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Beck..) it's all projection. HANNITY'S guy is going down as the worst president in history - that's why he has to say OBAMA'S gonna be the worst. Each time he makes a statement, just substitute Bush or Cheney for Obama. Then it all makes perfect sense (in a delusional way).

Well, that puts the Manatee in the lead for the title of Best Projection of the Year.

It's gonna be hard for Beck to beat that one, but I have confidence in him.


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

tequilamockingbird's picture

I think he's preempted you with his recent trashing of Obama's parents and grandparents. A huge difference is that Obama, unlike Beck, didn't turn to drugs and alcohol because of a less-than-ideal family situation. Obama survived and thrived, and went on to lead the world in a positive direction; Beck pulled himself out of the gutter to peddle hatred and intolerance.

Dirty Dawg's picture

...Obama can possibly go down as the worst ever at the end of his second term is if he fails to revoke the damned license that was issued to Rupert Murdoch and kicks FauxNews off the air. They'll be the only ones saying it and as far as I'm concerned are 'providing aid and comfort to the enemy'. To hell with 'em.

Turn the Bluegrass Blue's picture

I'd love to make a wager with Mr. Hannity regarding his boast, but I'm afraid he'll steal from his charity to pay me.

Then again, we've seen how well Mr. "I'll be water-boarded for the troops" sticks to his word.

RickMassimo's picture

... because what Hannity means is that Obama will be viewed BY HANNITY as the worst president ever.

Because really, who else's opinion matters?

Bingo.

He's a seriously defensive little boy in a big boy suit.

Jeffatgzg's picture

"and I say this with all sincerity and passion that I can muster up"

We believe you, Sean. However, when it comes to Sincerity and Passion (much less integrity and truthfullness), America is painfully aware that your toolbox is pretty darn empty.

Sincerity and Passion

I went out with them! I found Sincerity to be a bit pretentious, but I had a helluva time with Passion.


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

You got hammered, then nailed?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

glogrrl's picture

Nobody wants that nasty health care for everybody, or wants nukes to go away, or wants student loans made easier, or......(insert something helpful to the common man here).


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

!


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

CFAmick's picture

Convincing America to support the economic policies of the top .1% since 1996.

Wolfsinger's picture

His crazy cohort in crime Glenn Beck insists that he is not political:

“I could give a flying crap about the political process.” Making money, on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, and controversy is its own coinage. - - “We’re an entertainment company,” - - Beck says.

Translation? Fox "news" is total fiction. AND Beck's and Hannity's bosses know full well that their viewers are complete IDIOTS who must be spoon-fed false outrage and hate in order to buy the snake oil Fox is selling.

Congratulations Fox viewers. You've been totally and completely HAD.

surfjac's picture

..$32,000,000 last year. Reported on the NEWS this morning in NYC.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

mnich13's picture

was from a clause in his contract that states that he gets a bonus for every lie told?

At 50 cents per lie, that's a buncha lyin' goin' on there.

At 50 cents a lie, Beck could make a quarter of his yearly salary in one show.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

fastfeat's picture

Hey, chalk is expensive...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

To bad for him that money is not what takes an individual to the next level or he'd be rich!

CFAmick's picture

when they talk about socialism or what not, is, "If these things weren't happening, what would your opinion be then?" Because they're not happening. You might as well claim that Obama is handing over the country to the Loch Ness Monster, therefore he's the worst president ever.

his nasal cavity and throat? Surely Sean is more talented than I formerly credited him with being...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

BigIslandDave's picture

God, these conservatives are annoying, aren't they?

BID

ricky's picture

Hannity will have Jane Hamsher on to agree with him.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

Isn't she in the bathtub or draining a bathtub with another guy now?


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Drinking his bathwater?


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

ricky's picture

Do we think Jane is doing bathtub work with Grover because he uses Extra Strength Cialis? He has been with Boehner for way more than four hours.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

curtilingus's picture
Bp:

I hear that funny sound the tub makes when it is almost all drained.

Is it the same sound she makes when she expells?


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

ricky's picture

Clinton oval office hallway.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

Oh please. W is such a moron, he probably would have lit the cigar.


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

Please. Wahhhhhh! Jane Hamsher isn't being a loyal partisan. Boo fucking hoo.

You gotta learn yourself to see past the (D).

She is the party.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

There should only be more Jane Hamsher's on the "liberal" side!

Jane Hamsher so wonderfully points out the phonies, frauds and hypocrites in the Democratic Party who posed as "progressives" and so-called "liberals."

Jane Hamsher is FANTASTIC and knows what she is talking about regarding these Weimar Democrats and all the phony/faux liberals/progressives claiming to be for liberal ideals when in reality it's not the case at all!!!!!

As Jane wrote on January 30, 2010, "Cenk Uygur had Debbie Wasserman-Schultz on the Young Turks yesterday. Now that only 50 votes are needed to pass a public option in the Senate, guess what? They magically disappear:

She was also pessimistic about the idea of including the public option in the new proposed reconciliation bill in the Senate:

"We don’t have the votes for the public option in the Senate.”

"Now, remember we were told earlier that the Senate easily had 51 votes for the public option but that we needed 60 votes in the Senate because of the big, bad Republicans. Now, all of a sudden we don’t have 50 votes. If it only needed 40 votes, or 30 or 20, we still wouldn’t have it. Why? Because the corporations run the place. The rest is all smoke and mirrors."

Jane stated from that quote:

Remember too that these “fiscal conservatives” are supposedly worried about the cost of the bill, but they would rather pass the wildly unpopular excise tax than vote for a public option which actually saves money (even Schumer’s weak “level playing field” saves $25 billion). And now that we’re all worried about losing seats in swing districts? Well, a bill with a public option in it is more popular than the Senate bill without one — even among Republicans....So, the Senate wants what the lobbyists tell them to want, and all the rest is kabuki. One more time, here is the list of 51 Senators who say they want a public option. Biden would make 52. What’s stopping them now?....Here is a list of the 51 Democrats who said they support a public option....

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/01/30/d...

Too bad if the phony liberals/progressives cannot handle Jane's apt criticism of the sellout Democrats. She was spot on in her post I mentioned above and has been correct most of the time regarding the awful Health Insurance Reform Bill.

Jane is not the Problem either--It's the Spineless Democrats and the useless, center-right, Obama White House, also pandering to White America and the Republicans at the expense of true leftist policies. Obama has only continued Bush's war policies and the same corpotate agenda of bank bailouts and education cuts and phony attempts to boost the economy. Malcolm X so eloquently pointed out how empty liberals were and they have proved it once again giving the Imperialist Barack Obama and his administration a free pass after free pass. So, if you dsilike Jane, it just seems that you have a very short-sighted and partisan view of politics and obviously lack the ability to see things in a structuralist or class analysis view. Obama's latest phony attempt tp reduce nuclear weapons is more deception from the King-in-Chief, which any true leftist would have serious questions about, and not free pass forever from criticism.

Again--Jane is Fantastic and it's time phony "progressives" understand that no leader is free of criticism--not even Obama!!!!!!

mudshark's picture

Got the 300 needed delegate signatures to block the California Democratic Party's endorsement of Harman.
Winograd is going to give Harman a run for her money.
I would never support Harman. Winograd gets my support.
I've had enough of Harman. That blue dog has got to go.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

mudshark's picture

I was thinking of Harman. sorry about that chief.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

miss_kitty's picture

Faux "Progressives"-----Jane Hamsher should know. She's looking at one in her mirror every day.

WizardLeft1's picture

I totally disagree with you.....

miss_kitty's picture

but that's ok. :)

WizardLeft1's picture

okie.dokie

WizardLeft1's picture
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WizardLeft1's picture

President Obama Praised Ronald Reagan during the campaign and agreed that there were excesses in the 1960s.

"....I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure. I think part of what's different are the times. I do think that for example the 1980 was different. I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like with all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s and government had grown and grown but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think people, he just tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing....."

The Excesses of the 1960s?

1. Voting Rights Act
2. Civil Rights Act

Calling for the Vietnam War to end.

The assassinations of JFK, RFK, and MLK......

Obama likes to have his cake and eat it too.....

Reagan hated the 1960s--Civil Rights Legislation.....

Just remember that Precious Obama praised Reagan over other Democratic Party presidents, including FDR and Truman.

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

but how do you figure?

Okay so now I guess we can kiss optimism good bye since the great sage has spoken. Did the great sage also give his prediction for this year's hurricane season?


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Capt. Bat Guano's picture

"the Western European socialist model coming to America, we're looking at a -- the end of capitalism in America as we know it."

Bring it on please. About fucking time.

Capitalism: The predatory phase of human evolution.


Generally speaking I don't trust anyone making over 150K a year.

fastfeat's picture

who can't even find western Europe on a map, let alone enumerate its countries.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

ricky's picture

risk the wrath of Erik the Erikson's wife's shotgun.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

I heard his wife is like a shotgun.

Ok...it's juvenile, but oh so appropriate. ;o)


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

I always thought happiness was a HOT ROD.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

surfjac's picture

..Health Care paid for, a 37 hour work week and four weeks paid vacation. I'd be besides myself with joy. There are some things not to like about European culture but there are many things they are enlightened over that put us to shame. And I'm not talking about topless beaches.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

curtilingus's picture
:p

I'm forming a group that advocates a three-month work year for everyone. Some say my plan is too radical, but eventually I hope to pair it down to one month soon.

Serolf Divad's picture

Bah, the only shocking thing here is that it took Hannity this long to make this proclamation. Recall that Rush Limbaugh was already speaking of the "Obama Recession" in November of 2008, just weeks after the election and two months before Obama had even been sworn in.

I'm not sure why anyone even cares what comes out of Hannity's lips. After all, a guy who would steal the donations made to the children of fallen soldiers would do or say anything to make a buck.

curtilingus's picture

Worst president ever? I don't understand.

He extended the patriot act and domestic surveillance
He kept guantanomo open
He is trying the terrorists under military tribunal
He kept single payer groups out of health care reform
He gave himself the ability to order the killing of American citizens
He appointed a Monsanto lobbyist to the Department of Agriculture
He is committed to an indefinite presence in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He continues to bail out banks, preserve too big to fail companies
He's going to drill off our coasts, just like that excellent president we almost had.

My prediction? He'll be seen as the best republican president since W.

ricky's picture

but as Beck says, we don't get to study him any more.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

.


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

phayce's picture

He's done more than given himself the ability to order the killing of American citizens; he's now gone ahead and ordered such a killing.

So our Constitutional-scholar president who will not restore habeas corpus, now exploits the destruction by his predecessor of that centuries-old principal, upon which individual liberty is based, to deny an American citizen, only accused of a crime, his right to challenge the charges against him and prove his innocence.

Obama, the former candidate who exploited public outrage toward Bush to pimp hope and change in order to get elected, has now turned around and simply expanded the scope of Bush's outrages.

That makes him worse than Bush.

LeftandLeft's picture

Nothing is more pathetic than a Progressive doing the heavy lifting for Hannity, Rush and Beck.

Apologists.

...after only a year of cleaning up the mountain of shit left for him while being obstructed everywhere, is truly pathetic.

phayce's picture

And add to that EXPANDING the wars to include Pakistan, launching more drone attacks in his first year than Bush did in his entire 8 years in office, which kill vastly more innocents than supposed terrorists, and now EXPANDING Bush's assault on civil liberties to include extrajudicial assassination of US citizens.

These are not "cleaning up the mountain of shit" left behind by Bush, and you are a vulgar apologist.

mudshark's picture

Did you expect him to just up and leave Afghanistan?
Did you expect him to ignore the instability in Pakistan?
Just exactly what did you expect?


What is your conceptual, continuity?

So there are no alternatives that fall between "just upping and leaving" and escalation, in the case of Afghanistan, and "ignoring instability" and illegally attacking an additional nonbelligerent country? No other antiwar Democrats had any alternative suggestions, like Kucinich or McGovern?

You really are ignorant simps, aren't you?

And since you're so interested in me, and what I "expected," I expected pretty much what we got, since Obomber said in the debates he would probably expand the wars to Pakistan, probably the most honest thing he said. That's why I was smart enough and ethical enough not to vote for him. I didn't expect him to ignore the elimination of habeas corpus, though, much less go BEYOND Bush and start ordering executions of Americans without trial, since he said restoring that cornerstone of individual rights was one of his highest priorities.

What's your excuse?

mudshark's picture

Wow, I'm an ignorant simp for asking you a question?
I simply asked you those questions to see if you payed any attention to the debates.
I see you did. Good for you.
Feel better now?
I payed attention to them too. I'm not surprised by any of this.
Some of it I dislike. Some of it I dislike greatly. Some of it I approve of.
And do you really think Kucinich would have done anything any differently had he won the election? You idealists are so naive.
I think you would be just as pissed off right now no matter who would have won the election. If Kucinich would have won, you'd be here bad mouthing him right now.

As for the American citizen in Yemen. He made his own bed. Now he can lie in it. If they capture him and bring him to trial, good. If he dies? I don't care. He chose his path.

One more thing. I don't need an excuse.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

phayce's picture

I was referring to Obama apologists, not you personally.

What’s naive is believing what a politician says he will do. Based on Kucinich’s consistent antiwar voting record, the most reliable predictor of how a politician will act, he would have done many things differently, especially with regard to these illegal wars. And yes, if Kucinich had won the election and then broken virtually every promise he made to get elected, I would be criticizing him. That’s what engaged citizens should do when leaders lie and break pledges.

As for Anwar al-Awlaki, how do you know he is guilty? In our system, guilt is properly determined by trials, not presidential decrees. Do you know how many times our government’s accusations of terrorism have proven to be false?

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/03/19/guan...

Not to care about a possibly innocent man being deprived of his right to trial and executed is un-American and immoral and certainly not progressive. Also, what happens when a right-wing or fascist regime takes power and declares dissenters terrorists? The rule of law is there to protect everyone from just such abuses. Obama’s death sentence on Awlaki has outraged legal experts across the political spectrum, and rightly so.

mudshark's picture

circulating that has him saying he's al qaeda. I saw it a long time ago now. That's why I feel the way I do. Otherwise, I'd agree.
Here's a little tidbit that's not related.

Oh,btw, thank you for the thoughtful response.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

phayce's picture

But please ponder the bigger question of what happens when the President--any President--can bypass the courts and alone decide whether an American lives or dies.

Here's a good article by Greenwald, covering Olbermann, on the subject:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_green...

It's been fun. Take care.

mudshark's picture

And it is a very good one. An excellent one in fact.
The man has sworn himself as an enemy of the US. He has sworn himself to al qaeda.
He moved to Yemen with the intent of joining the ranks of al qaeda.
He has options. He can turn himself in and receive a trial. No one forced him to do what he's doing. This guy made his decisions of his own free will.
I don't care if he gets shot.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

shediac's picture

Bush was the greatest Republican ever, dumb as a dodo, nuts, a crook and a coward. Texas will have to work hard to re-write his history!

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

boosh is from Connecticut...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

But he's trying Ringo, he's trying....

he's trying Ringo

What's the charge? Will Paul appear as a character witness?


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

surfjac's picture

..walrus starts with a "w". Play Hard Day's Night backwards and it sounds meaningless.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

and you will be AM radio is the mid seventies.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

fastfeat's picture

and I'll want to chop my head off 'cause my hands couldn't do enough to protect my hearing.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

You mean it's meaningless in BOTH directions??? I thought it was just because I didn't get it.

curtilingus's picture
3p:

IOKIYAD?

curtilingus's picture
:P

He'll put his license to kill right beside his Nobel Peace Prize.

fastfeat's picture

Disturbing indeed.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

ricky's picture

Of their top 12 commentators the only woman is

Mary Martha Corinne Morrison Claiborne Boggs (Roberts).


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

Whaaa's picture

Let's get real and call it like it was, Preznit Cheney. OK?


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

..a second term mostly due to the lack of prosecutions of the previous administration. What I don't want is another f-ing republican't in the WH. This country, especially the people who think the gop is good for America, need to wake up in the dawn of the new day and realize they offer nothing especially if you're not white, male and wealthy! I don't know how to beat back the garbage that hannity, beck, limpbaugh, will, that CBS' guy's son, et.al. spew but the right just can't be left in charge ever again if we are ever to get ourselves out of the mess they created.

Obama, worst President? No Way sean, NO F-ing way. That distinction belongs to w, now and forever!


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

Ahh, refreshing to see an optimist from time to time...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

surfjac's picture

..but the glass is always half-empty with "r".


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

Whaaa's picture

We are financially doomed because of the last admin...


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

cpinva's picture

that is sean hannity, i'm guessing the vegas odds favor obama. that's not to suggest that obama impresses me, but bush set such a low bar, you'd have to lie flat on your back, and crawl under it, to come anywhere close to the ineptitude displayed by former pres. bush, much less exceed it.

i'm not sure two terms would be sufficient, bush was just that bad.

Shadowgm's picture

He's a fuckin' set of Firestone's best.

But, just as with the Firestone tires, the resulting wreck leaves debris strewn all over the road, makes the nation as a whole far less safe (especially those people who bought the same brand), and was yet another example of corporate ethics.

First, I think even entertaining the notion that Obama will be even in contention for "worst president ever" award or even "a bad president" award is ridiculous.

Right wingers hate him and that can't be changed.

A lot of the rest of us who voted for him aren't real thrilled with him.

But to even make the "bad president" list of contenders you'd have to do something seriously fucked up, not just make some unpopular decisions.

For example, expanding Afghanistan and not ending Iraq is something I am really unhappy about.

But those are wars he didn't start.

So on a scale of bad to worse, I put the starting a war as far to the worst as it can go and continuing the war wherever on the line continuing it would merit.

Now think of how many presidents have started stupid wars. They all fall below Obama.

Now think of presidents who had really significant scandals. I'm not talking middle-school created drama scandals. I'm talking about stuff like Iran-Contra.

Obama hasn't had anything close to any kind of scandal.

Now think of how many presidents have had any kind of scandal. They all fall below Obama.

And so on.

If Obama continues to play it safe he will fall safely in the middle of all presidents and get bumped a little because he broke a race barrier.

So put him at the bottom of the Top 40%.

And so on with all comparisons to other presidents. What he does really well is stay out of trouble. Unless he's another squeaky clean guy who we find out has women hidden all over or he's laundering money to sell weapons to our enemies, he's total safe in the eyes of history. The real thing that will bring him down is that he could go for more and he doesn't.

That's not a prediction. That's just if the world ended today and he gets judged up to now.

surfjac's picture

..Day One. I particularly liked "..the most liberal Senator." lie. Wasn't that granted to Kerry in 2004? Well, when won't we hear that Obama was the worst President from the likes of hannity? Like when hell freezes over.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

They haven't made anything stick hard enough to become a historical description.

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

Obama hasn't had anything close to any kind of scandal.

His presidency is only a year old.

Not saying it can't happen. Just looking at things based on what I've seen.

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

Even with a scandal, he still wouldn't be anywhere near the worst.

Obama is like Clinton all over again. I find myself defending him against right wing attacks, but attacking him against partisan rah-rah boosterism.

I'm with you on that. I think I'm just going to have to be content with him not doing anything insanely jacked up. I've given up on him doing anything liberal at all.

The one thing I want him to do is put enough resources into social programs infrastructure so they can work.

gump's picture

If Sean had his show during any democratic administration he would be saying the same thing. This is no surprise. Kennedy was the worst, Clinton was the worst, Carter was the worst etc. Yawn.


is intended to be a factual statement

Dave Wolf's picture

Hannity who?

surfjac's picture

..won't follow through with having myself water-boarded and I steal from children of war veterans" hannity. Just in case you weren't being snarky. ;)


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

Republicans ARE practicing seditious DEMAGOGUERY and anti-democracy OBSTRUCTIONISM intended to destabilize our economy for purposes of political exploitation.

Republicans AREN'T making a sincere effort to STOP the bleeding THEIR incompetent leadership and failed policies created. Instead, they're using inflammatory lies and accusations as a smokescreen to conceal their subversive agenda, which is to cause President Obama and America to fail so they can blame Democrats for the consequences of THEIR calamitous mismanagement.

Republicans ARE preposterously professing that THEIR disgraceful political WHORING had nothing to do with the banking, real estate, stock market and employment catastrophes that resulted.

Republicans ARE trying to hamstring Democrats to prevent them from repairing the damage caused during a Republican presidency that was irresponsibly enabled by Republican Senators and Representatives.

Republicans ARE offering ridiculous arguments meant solely to disrupt and prevent progressive change. They'd rather divide America and create political gridlock than endure the political consequences of effective Democratic governance.

Republicans AREN'T the LOYAL OPPOSITION; they ARE the ENEMY WITHIN whose mercenary priorities have eroded their moral and ethical standards to the point that duplicity and betrayal have become their preferred modus operandi.

It's one thing to advocate their conservative beliefs; it's another thing entirely to willfully sabotage America's government because a successful Democratic presidency would not be vulnerable to the greed, fears and hatreds that have produced and sustained the radical Republican anti-government corporatism and anti-Christian faux theocracies that are poisoning and crippling American society.

Couldn't you have simply said..."They suck"?


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

ricky's picture
& U

L &P?


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

The problem is sedition and treason are defined as crimes against the government, but we have no word in our legal language for when the government is the perpetrator.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

pdeckard's picture

Knowing Sean Hannity's knack for getting everything 100% WRONG, Obama will undoubtedly go down in history as one of the nation's greatest Presidents.

He certainly likes to show us the worst of himself. At least I hope what we see is him at his worst.

Liberalicious's picture

been waterboarded yet?

That's twice he's cut and run... once from a crowd "he's not afraid of" and once from "a little water in the face".

fastfeat's picture

.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

ricky's picture

Jenny Craig hates fat women.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

He loves the troops - they make a lot of money for him. He just doesn't care if they live or die but as a group he loves them to death!

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

He's already gone down as better than average in just containing the bleeding from our economic system booshco initiated.

But of course the operation isn't over yet...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ian m's picture

This is the same pinhead who thought global warming had been preempted by a snow storm in D.C. Are people still listening to this guy?

surfjac's picture

..sheeple who watch faux hear stuff on the tv thingamajig and know it must be true.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

Oh jeez, Hannity is bummed that Fox is the Glenn Beck Fox Snooze Network. He's bummed that Fox is now thought of as Beck. That is all this is. Jealousy.

(Not so) Funny farm, where all the loonatics were together in one big happy space. I never gave much thought to which one was king of the loons.

But now that CNN has come along to challenge Fux (IE: Erikkkson), my ability to pigeonhole these turds is being challenged. Oh noes!


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Tax the Rich's picture

These clowns are so out to lunch, they don't even realize Obama is a DLC republican-lite.

The only way anybody could be a worse president than George W. Bush would be if they accidently nuked half the country.

The end of capitalism fascism? We can only wish Adolph Hannity.


If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.

Hard for them to see that with all the melanin.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

"These clowns are so out to lunch, they don't even realize Obama is a DLC republican-lite."

The wingers are clutching their pearls as it is. could you imagine if Obama was a true librul Democrat? They'd self implode....which is reason in an of itself for Obama to make a hard left turn....as he was elected to do.

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

With this level of vitriol, he might as well initiate a new New Deal and an alternative energy Manhattan Project, not to mention Single Payer. That's what's so infuriating about Obamanuel.

ricky's picture

he does take action based on his reaction to the vitriol of others. I thought that was only what FOX vieweres do after they join the Tea Party on their first step to militadom.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

sixandseveneights's picture

since Bush put them all out of work

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

why doesn't he take action on the vitriol of the Left? One thing that really bugs me is that all these polls showing dissatisfaction with Congress or the healthcare bill insurance industy bailout fail to drill down to determine what percentage of those who are dissatisfied feel there isn't enough "change."

sixandseveneights's picture

saying it makes it so.

ricky's picture

and then it not only isn't, it never was.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

I predict that Hannity's prediction will not come to fruition.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

sixandseveneights's picture

"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Rascalcat's picture

Right up there with William "I've never been right yet" Krystol.

DarkStar's picture

If Obama allows a terrorist attack on American soil that kills over 3,000 people, Starts a war of aggression against a country who didn’t attack us, Ignores the pleas of it’s citizens after a catastrophic natural disaster, wrecks the economy causing another great depression, wire taps it’s citizens, tortures it’s prisoners, ignores the threat of global climate change, stacks the courts with activist judges, repeals laws restricting industrial pollution, and being the biggest embarrassment on the national stage that this country has ever seen.
Then maybe, just maybe I might concede your point.
Till then Sean, STFU!

Shadowgm's picture

... cutting look-the-other-way deals with folks like Massey Energy.

And the banks, energy companies, health insurance industry, etc.

DarkStar's picture

to list all of Bush's failings.

Rascalcat's picture

(San Francisco, CA) -- The mother of the San Francisco Bay Area man accused of threatening House Speaker Nancy Pelosi blames Fox News for radicalizing her son.
KGO television is reporting 83-year-old Eleanor Giusti believes her son, 48-year-old Greg Giusti, gained radical ideas from watching Fox News which she believes motivated his alleged threats against Speaker Pelosi after Congress approved healthcare reform legislation.
Giusti was arrested Wednesday and is expected to appear in federal court in San Francisco today.
It's also reported Giusti has a history of mental illness and harassment.

I'm shocked.

ricky's picture

threads late in getting up this morning.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

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