... is what those who pay thousands of dollars in premiums (I have seen $18,000/yr) will do with the money they will save.

Just caught the tail end of something on CNBC this morning. Someone was talking about an AON Survey which cited that 93% od businesses would stay with the plan they offer currently. Pisani properly asked him why they are opposed to the public option. I searched AON but could not find 93%

the ones who arent insured currently and whom actually would benefit from health care reform. he cares more about doing the bidding of his masters: the healthcare and insurance industries. derail this at any cost and make Obama suffer. nothing but politics, all the time, 24/7. he offers nothing and doesnt care to, its all about ruining Obama. what a complete and utterly transparent partisan. for the insurance and healthcare lobbies hes the highest level of 'useful idiot' there is. what an ahole.

and your Doctor." That's always one of the top three talking points for Republican heads.

Have you noticed that they NEVER complain about letting YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY step between you and your Doctor?

In my mind, this is what it comes down to: who can manage your health care plan better... YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY... or your Doctor?

.."as affordable as possible". Ah yes,that little word "possible", there in lies the rub. As affordable as our CEO's will allow so long as their criminal compensation packages remain intact.

“But the fights ahead for health care appear to be playing out over cost and who pays.”

The whole thing has always been about who pays. To cover the uninsured, either tax payers pay, or it comes out of corporate profits. The money doesn't grow on trees.

When single payer was taken off the table, that meant that maintaining corporate profits was prioritized. We're hearing a few concessions on driving up future costs, but with the disparity between what U.S. consumers pay and people in the rest of the industrial world pay now, that indicates corporate profits will stay healthy in the insurance industries as the rest of the economy ails.

In a situation of real reform, we would be concerned about what to do with the money we would SAVE, instead of discussing ways to PAY. I don't think in a free trade environment that our economy will be competitive when saddled with the most expensive health care in the world, the most expensive defense in the world (before the wars), 2 wars, a trillion dollars of corporate welfare towards Wall Street, a drug war being fought in the dumbest and most expensive approach imaginable, and so forth.

Remember, the reason we're discussing paying instead of saving is a symptom of massive corporate corruption of the government, with influence peddlers deciding policy. It is this corruption that is the root cause of the problems.

As far as the public option is concerned, that option is not available to anyone who can otherwise get insurance through their employer, according to Sebelius on the Daily Show. I wonder what kind of demographic the public plan is going to wind up serving or whether it will scale to a point where it can negotiate significant discounts.

what congresscritters have , everything else is BS .

Worried about becoming a socialist country , tax rate for 85% of americans is what 35% , sales tax here ( WA )is almost 10% , and sales tax is on after tax dollars . round it up to 50% , not counting devalaution of the dollar , which in the last 2 years is running at what say 30%+ , not alot of coin left over the good times . Soon i will be in the back of my van , what a great nation we have become .

Im an elder now , it is saddening to me , for the youth of this ( world ) country , it has become what Upton Sinclair wrote about years ago . Now i know how the dog felt having his tail chopped off ( Jack London ) to provide food . Class war without a doubt in my view .

Single parents you have it the hardest , you cant take this to the bank , you have my utmost respect .

The Insurance Companies already ration health care inside the US. Americans need to get organized and fight these Insurance Companies because they sure do not have your best interests in their profit margins.

Americans need to organize and fight the Insurance Companies since they are definitely already organized!

its the wars and bailouts that are killing us , ending those two would put us back on solid ground . All of the talk of health care is diverting us from the real objective , ENDING the wars , no more bailouts to wall street , rebuild the working class of american by ending imports that we once produced here , bring back our mfg base , then we can deal with health care , case in point if no one can afford it what is the fucking point .

I can't think of anything else that has had as big an impact informing people that the U.S. health empire's propaganda is lies. Hell, my parents never figured out a VCR much less a DVD player, and, even though their town has a movie theater (don't laugh -- most towns don't today in that state), they haven't gone to a movie in years. Even they saw "Sicko" because we drove up and played it for them on our laptop over a holiday.

You free loaders just want someone else to pay for your bad health and bad habits. The system does need to be tweeked, not overhauled. I am in the health insurance business. There are affordable plans availible but you liberals would rather have $150 cable bills, when there are $50 options, cell phones, cars you can't afford, and many other things that are not priority and them cry because health insuranc is too expensive we need the rich to pay for it.

Look at MA there health system is more than broke and everyone is required to have health insurance. Last year 26,000 fines were levied on people that did not carry insurnace and thier helathcare cost is based on thier income and most that were uninsured could have gotten it for free.

Every single republican ammendment was rejected. But you do not hear the liberal media talk about that. There is a Republican bill on the table but the liberal leaders of congress will not let it be entered into the mix. You know why, because it makes sense.

Did you know that if the current bill passes that it will not go into effect unitl 2013. So what is the rush? Hmmm what is 2013 oh the year after the election. Obama will campaign that he got healthcare for everyone so re-elect me. If we are in such dier need of helathcare reform why do we need to wait until 2013 before it goes into effect?

If this bill was so good then why did the ammendment to make all of congress and be a part of the public plan fail on a partisan line vote? Why is it not good for the people that make the law? If it were going to be so good shouldn't they have to be enrolled in the plan? Seems fair to me. This will be just like the Stemulus package that has not worked. Rush it through and then complain about the miss uses of he money.

I have a business that pays for 75% of the premium and did you know that 30% of my workers do not participate? They are uninsured because they can't afford it. They have 40K cars, buy expensive houses, have the premium cable packages, shop high end stores. Then they complain when I dock them for being sick and require a doctors note to return to work if they have been out for more thatn 3 days. I pay for flu shots at my office for the entire family it cost me about 1500.00 a year and still I have employees that do not get the shot. How ironic that the ones that miss the most work are the ones that don't take care of themselves and be responsible. But thye have no problem asking for advances on thier pay when something goes wrong and they can't pay the docotrs visits. I had one person wanted me to pay her a higher salery because she did to enroll in the helath insurance. I was saving money for her to not be on the plan. So even if we offer something for low cost, provide free services there are those who are too stupid to take advantage of it.

So lets punish me the small busness owner. Truth be known if this bill passes, there will be another 10 on the unemployment line because it will elieminate the need for my services. You free loaders do not think about that.