One of the most important videos you've never seen is this one, in which Benjamin Netanyahu, 9 years ago -- thinking there is no record -- explains his actually strategy to inflict pain on the Palestinians. He also describes how easy it is to manipulate the US, and how he made sure that the Oslo Accords would mean nothing.
First he says that the plan for the Palestinians is to:
hit them hard. Not just one hit... but many painful [hits], so that the price will be unbearable. The price is not unbearable, now. A total assault on the Palestinian Authority. To bring them to a state of panic that everything is collapsing ... fear that everything will collapse... this is what we'll bring them to...
The woman Natanyahu is speaking to wonders if the world won't object to what Israel is doing to the occupied Palestinians (she uses the word occupiers herself. He says the world will say nothing, just that Israel is defending itself. As for the US...
“I know what America is. America is a thing that can be easily moved, moved in the right direction... Let's suppose that they [the Americans] will say something [i.e. to us Israelis] ... so they say it...” [i.e. so what?]
He then moves on to deal with the Oslo Accords. Under Oslo, Israel was to give back land in three phases. However, there was a loophole: if there were settlements or military bases, that land didn't have to be given back. So the question is, who defines what is a settlement or military site?
I received a letter – to me and to Arafat, at the same time ... which said that Israel, and only Israel, would be the one to define what those are, the location of those military sites and their size. Now, they did not want to give me that letter, so I did not give the Hebron agreement. I stopped the government meeting, I said: "I'm not signing." Only when the letter came, in the course of the meeting, to me and to Arafat, only then did I sign the Hebron agreement, or rather, ratify it. It had already been signed. Why does this matter? Because at that moment I actually stopped the Oslo accord.
The woman talking to Netanyahu also states that Oslo meant Israel's suicide—Israel's destruction. And Netanyahu seems to agree.
What is clear from this is that Netanyahu at least, and probably the majority of Israel's leadership (since they followed the strategy he outlines), never sincerely intended to fulfill the Oslo Accords. Their strategy for dealing with the Palestinians was to inflict maximum pain, in an attempt to break the Palestinians so they would accept any possible terms.
And finally, it's remarkable that Netanyahu thinks there is nothing Israel could do which would ever really make America turn on it: nothing which would ever make America not support it. The idea that America would stop Israel from smashing the Palestinians is laughable to him.
The question, nine years later, is whether this is still true. Certainly it is true that when Israel attacked ships in international waters the US protected Israel. And it is also apparently the case that the Israeli military were to overfly Iraq to attack Iran, U.S. air command is not to shoot them down.
I suggest watching the entire video, and drawing your own conclusions. For myself, I suggest that it is in neither Israel's best interests nor America's for America to be so unwilling to stand up to Israel, and for Israel's Prime Minister to have so little respect -- indeed, such open contempt -- for the nation which is Israel's primary ally.
with "friends" like this...
Shame on you for your blatantly anti-Jewish propaganda. After all these people have gone through, aren't they entitled to persecute a few PAlestinians and abuse the friendship of the Americans, and kill and plunder just a little bit? An eye for an eye, and all that other Biblical, Old Testament Bullsh*t.
Candideinnc
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“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
You think?
BiBi's mouth is far from anti--anything..He is the blatant anti-American selected user in this game..Using the American dollars and taking the aide for years..Trust me this is not the only proof out there!
Aipac should be rightly shamed for supporting this failed sham!
Murders on the High Seas and apartheid in Gaza!
AIPAC should be forced to register with The State Department as the foreign agent that they are.
Look what they've been able to accomplish:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BahjX9nI5k
http://news.suite101.com/article.cfm/us-house...
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The American public must demand that Congress and the current administration abide by The Symington Amendment that prohibits any U.S. funding of countries that possess nuclear weapons and that are not signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
Watch this BBC documentary if you doubt that Israel has nuclear weapons:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/143/472/BBC_Do...
r_weapons_Banned_Censored.html
Israel is a far greater danger to the United States than Iran.
Check out Israel's "Samson Option" if you have any doubts.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
AIPAC isn't ashamed because that's their goal... all they care about is israel (and if it's at the expense of America, so be it).
I feel like I should set an over/under on the number of times Ian will get called anti-semetic for even posting this.
For the rest of us, none of this comes as a surprise.
yes, Israel is the most dangerous topic to talk about, by far.
Israel, America's great parasite. Half of the world hate us for our blind, slavish devotion to them.
And the thug Bibi is correct in his opinion of America.
They can do whatever they please, murder, bomb, wage wars of aggression on civilian populations, publicly and repeatedly shit on the wishes (never demands no matter how much money and diplomatic support we give them)of the U.S. without fear of any consequences beyond timid, pleading, apologetic, toothless reprimands.
And of course the Israeli influence on the U.S. will continue unabated and undiluted.
Not a parasite but similar to the slug put into the ears of Cdr. Chekov and Capt. Terrell in "The Wrath of Khan" to make them more "suggestable".
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
yep, I see no end in this.
being Israel's patsy? This is disgraceful!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
when those who are called "jews" stop voting.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
"Evangelical" Christian fundamentalists who send their kids to "Jesus Camps" and indoctrinate them with a bunch of Armageddon hoo-hah from the time they are old enough to walk.
The Muslims do the same thing with their madrasas in Saudi Arabia.
Thank God!!! that most human beings are well within the center of that insane dogmatic horseshit!
The Jew/Muslim convert that Dawkins spoke with is HIGH if he truly believes that Muslims "will control the world", especially the United States. Good luck telling any American woman or European woman to cover her head with a scarf....(unless J-Lo tells us it's "fashionable").
God! Talk about "self-hating Jews"!!! This guy takes the cake!
Pfffttt!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
(or lack thereof) because blacks vote, or Mexico's politics because Hispanics vote....maybe it's the money donated to campaigns?
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
that bribery thing slipped my mind.
Most blacks in this country came from the West Coast of Africa, and have little to no connection with that continent.
Also not all Hispanics are of the Mexican persuasion.
Granted, not all Jews are Zionist for the most part. And it has little to do with the Jewish vote, and all to do with the lobbying. Were the Somalis and Mexicans start their own powerful lobby organizations in DC, I am sure both Somalia and Mexico would become indispensable strategic partners for the USA overnight.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
It's more that if anyone says anything publicly against israel, it's seen as anti-semitic and your career is over. People are more free to criticize israel in israel than in the US.
Many Jews are horrified by the treatment of Palestinians and work hard to halt it. The big problem is that the Zionists have the ear and the pursestrings of Big Brother Deep Pockets.
Your assessment is disgusting, ironically named 'moral.'
me-oww!
but when Israel rules American politics with an iron fist.....we give them planes, tanks, NUCLEAR WEAPONS.....something's wrong. If they attack Iran, guess who gets the blame?
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
see how I referenced the name? It was for the guy equating Jews with Zionists. Saying when Jews stop voting, this bullshit will go away. I would say the majority o Jews are NOT Zionists.
Hint, the edge of my comment above is in line with yours. It means we are replying to the same comment. I put my cursor arrow on the left edge of a comment and scroll up when I'm trying to figure out who said what to whom. ;)
me-oww!
I got that you were replying to 'moralblahblahblah' because of the use of the partial name, but going by the formatting, it looked like you were replying to 'glo' on my screen.
just sayin'
I ALMOST went back and edited the name and time of the post into that comment, but I thought people in the thread knew the system well enough. And I DID mention a part of his name, not hers, ("ironically named moral etc") That should have been enough.
FTR, I was replying to Thu, 08/19/2010 - 10:29 — moraltrumpslegal, not glogirl. Our comments are in line, my comment is not stepped back from hers, like these are.
:)
me-oww!
yeah, usually the threading is clear for me (like now these are very staggered and obvious) but at times it is impossible for me to tell just visually.
...and even with that knowledge, I'm terrible at referencing which post I'm responding to in my comments... lol
gnawing her a new one. :D
me-oww!
I like anyone that glo's!
It's about the Right-Wing Xtians pushing the Isreali agenda. They're the vots that count. They seriously don't believe the rapture will happen until Armageddon in the Middle East, starting in Israel. The video that Truth_Critic posted says it pretty clearly.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
The kind of Christians who don't love Israel because they want a homeland for others.
The kind of Christians who love Israel for themselves.
The kind of Christians who want the birthplace of Jesus to belong to themselves.
Not to others.
Pat Robertson kind of Christians.
Israel has more to fear from that kind of Christian than they have to fear from any other people on the face of the planet.
Maybe that's why they plant spies over here.
I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?
Study the symptoms not the virus...
And those people prove that that is NOT GOOD.
I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?
the zionists to the tune of $200 million US dollars annually!
Check Coteret.org or M Blumenthal.com
We have to change the way we think of Israel.
We cannot support them blindly and unconditionally.
We don't even support our government when it is wrong.
Israel is more like the Nazis than they will ever admit.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
But what's more tragic is that Israel couldn't take the horror of the Holocaust and what people of Jewish descent have experienced, and actively work to cultivate compassion for others.
I knew that things were very bad over there when Alon Pinkas favorably compared Israel to U.S. manifest destiny, with no thought or consideration whatsoever of how it ruined the lives of many Native, Hispanic, and African Americans.
I've never seen change without a fire
The victim becomes the villain...
Yahoo is quite the peach here, huh? Dicks!
crux of the Israeli govt's attitude and policy toward Palestine and Palestinians. Their actions have been screaming it for all to see, and the decades of indignant denials coming from the govt when confronted about the mistreatment of Palestinian human beings under their care has always more than reeked of too much protest.
“Jews should be Jews—not Nazis.” - Moshe Menuhin
me-oww!
I'm sure there will one day be a swing to the left..Next year in Jerusalem.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
I think you mean if Israeli military were to overfly Iraq. I would hope that the U.S. air command wouldn't shoot down American planes.
So technically, the statement still stands correct ;-)
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
thanks, fixed that.
The real Netanyahu comes through. I knew the "moderate" Netanyahu was a sham.
...he uses big words like 'particularly' and 'delicatessen.' -- Jack
The Rwingers in Israel are just as
crazy-insane-stupid as any of our
Rwingers. The bad thing is they are
the ones in power over there.
We better make sure it doesn't
happen over here.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
So where are Bibi's buds, the "Clean Break" guys these days? Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, etc. What are they up to now that their man is in power?
If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?
Netanyaya has been a dirt-bag for a long time. He and his CHIEF slimeball Foreign Minister, Lierberwocky, will do a Nuclear strike on Iran relatively soon,; get us into another World War parts of which will be Nuclear; and the scenes of US COMBAT troops finally leaving parts of the middle-east will be short lives. They just have different uniforms and DOSIMETERS soon...
Is this really what Americans want if resluglicans take control of the government?? Really??
Even if you don't particularly like the person running as a Democrat, it's absolutely true that a Republican Congress would create even more war and chaos. Just like they did last time.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Will there ever come a time when our government completely cuts Israel off? All the U.S. is to them is a money cow and a lapdog.
Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime
"many painful [hits], so that the price will be unbearable... A total assault on the Palestinian Authority. To bring them to a state of panic that everything is collapsing ... fear that everything will collapse... this is what we'll bring them to..."
In other words, terrorism.
Very well said Pete.
terrorism in the US is defined to be inversely proportional to the technology and distance used to deliver the attacks.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Actually I think it's "Freedom Fighters" if the US likes you and a "Terrorist" if they don't.
'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique
this subject has been analyzed to death, the british mandate, the roman commander titus, the right of return, the nazis, and on, and on.
i guess it depends on what you read, and your point of view, there is for example this,
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/m...
and this
http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.p...
there is real hatred between these two religious sects, that is for sure, odd for two such "peaceful" religions. the fact is israel is a country, my solution is let the israelis have it all, all the way to the jordan, set the borders and let israel run their country the way they want; that is what we are doing for the new islamic republic of iraq, and afghanistan.
of course we have seen what happens to leaders who attempt peace with israel, such as anwar sadat. "Following Sadat's assassination, the killers were identified as Muslim radicals, members of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad. They opposed Sadat's landmark peace treaty with Israel and hoped to impose Islamic rule in Egypt."
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_s...
the fact is that Israel is a country, no matter how it got that way, and some people are going to be unhappy about it.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Israel_s...
Your "solution", the eradication of the Palestinians... ooops, I mean "letting the Israelis have it all" continues unabated.
like i have said before, the UN and the Brits never had the right to give this land away in the first place. both sides will have arguments about everything, and everything else, until the sun goes red giant. i got hammered before for calling israel an "illegitimate state". fact is there was no "state" of palestine, there was the "british protectorate" which was an arbitrary border set up by europeans; see, my point exactly, so many complexities, set a final definite border that completely satisfies somebody, anybody, and be done with it.
real-world solutions seldom satisfy everybody anyway, there won't be any middle way with either of these parties, don't kid yourself.
the initial European immigrants never had the right to award themselves North America either. So while we're correcting injustices... The damn thing is I'm going to have to exile a majority of myself back to Europe if I want to be politically correct. This is beyond awkward.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
it would be applicable to the situation at hand if the Canadian and US governments were still in the process of bulldozing the Native Americans... but that's not the case.
in other words, red herring is a red herring.
Those reserves are just paradise and we let them have casinos.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
more false equivalences and red herrings.
it's what I expect from you.
the lame argument you were making originally, before you reverted to your time tested, overly trite sarcasm and condescension, was this:
but hey, my ancestors have done bad stuff too, so I should just be quiet.
an incredibly simplistic understanding of current events.
using your logic, if Canada started to actively blockade the reservations, prohibit anyone who is NA from leaving those areas, and actively encroach even more into those reservations, further stealing land you would be forced to say:
Oh well, it's happened before, who am I to say anything about this? I can't be against these things because my ancestors were for them. Oh well.
It also falsely equates the NA populations in both countries to that of Palestinians in other ways, such as the fact that NA's can and do participate in both of our governments, many do not live on those reservations - Hawaii is a great example of this - but rather are fully integrated and consider themselves Americans.
This is not true for Palestinians.
Once again, your red herring remains a red herring.
... there are plenty of Hawaiians who have a lot of bones to pick with the USA. There are in fact plenty of Hawaiians who subscribe to pro-independence views.
Same goes for many native independence movements in the USA (and Canada) many of which have been squashed by force. There are actually plenty of native leaders in prison in the US, for what other nations consider to be political reasons.
The irony is that even Israel may have a stronger case based on historical precedence. Than us white folk do in regards to our ownership of this land, since there is no historical precedent of white people roaming these lands previous to the XV/XVI century conquest.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
But in Canada, you don't get shot at by the military daily, confined and unable to buy even the basics of life. When arrested you are not worried your organs will be removed and sold on the black market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_transplant...
'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique
Shit, I guess that incident at Wounded Knee- the first one, in the 19th Century- wasn't really a massacre...More like a fight outside of a (Ghost) danceb.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
"fact is there was no "state" of palestine"
I would argue that Palestine became a de facto state at the same time Israel was created.
"there won't be any middle way with either of these parties, don't kid yourself."
not with black and white thinking, and thugs like Netanyahu pulling the strings.
which is that Israel became a de facto state the minute enough of them decided to stay. Debating the "legality" of an Israeli state as decided by Britain or anyone else is just as pointless as debating the legality of Europeans in North America. They are there now and they aren't going anywhere. Nor are the Palestinians.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
I wasn't responding to your comment, mr. center of the universe.
rather, I was responding to Derek.
did you say "there won't be any middle way with either of these parties, don't kid yourself."?
oops, no!
that was someone else!
inherent in whining about responding to comments that weren't addressed to me when they lead directly back to a comment by me that wasn't addressed to you but which you nevertheless felt free to reply to. Better review that WIKI article on logic and logical fallacies.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
I just finished reading "The Attack on the Liberty: The Untold Story of Israel's Deadly 1967 Assault on a U.S. Spy Ship" by James Scott. Israel's bullshit with this country goes back a long way. Netanyahu is just a little bit more open about his contempt for us. Israel has a right to exist but not a right to go around beating the shit out of their neighbors with the ace in the hole that we will bail them out.
by Phil Tourney, a survivor of Israel's attack on the USS Liberty:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/14507...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
They should pay for that.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Why don't you pull up the BBC's "Dead in the Water" on YouTube about Israel's relentless attack on the Liberty and watch it while you plug your ears and yell, "La,la,la,la,la,la,la,la" really loud?!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
that the Israeli military shot the crap out of the USS Liberty. In exactly the same way I am sure the USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian airliner with almost 300 people on board including 66 children. Shit happens in war zones.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
in your book Peter G?
Watch "Dead in the Water" and you'll get an ejukation on that.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
I watch Triumph of the Will?
Hasa Diga Eebowai
a "war zone" exactly?
Also the USS liberty was in international waters too.
Furthermore, how do you equate the sinking of the Titanic, with a deliberate air attack on an American ship in international waters by a supposed ally?
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Iceberg? What's the difference? ( The Titanic comment was sarcasm). The civilian Iranian flight 655 was shot down towards the end of the Iran-Iraq war. The US does have to be a player to make it a war zone. It was shot down by one of the most sophisticated US warships then in existence. A ship with the most advanced and sophisticated tracking and targeting radars in existence. A ship that apparently mistook a wide bodied A-300 for a jet fighter and killed everyone on board. I believe the technical term for that sort of thing is " giant clusterfuck". Much like what happened to the USS Liberty.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
You know nothing if you think that the USS Liberty was simply one rogue missile.
It was a protracted battle one where the president was on the phone with the admirals in the area.
We refer to it as a "False Flag operation".
Look it up.
'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique
The point was that they were both giant clusterfucks.
The USS Liberty was sent to the area alone before the US Amassador to the UN stated publicly that there were no US Navy ships in the area. The Department of the Navy sent orders to the fleet to pull the Liberty back, but the fleet command never forwarded the message to the Liberty.
And "false flag" is just what the Israelis were thinking: The USS Liberty was a refitted WWII era Victory ship (the follow-up to, ironically, the Liberty ships), many of which had been old off to private interests after WWII, many of which were sailing around the globe in 1967. The Israelis didn't know whether that was an official US flag, or whether it was an Egyptian or Soviet ship flying a false flag.
Something else that's well worth remembering is that Israel wasn't a client state of the US at the time of the Six Days War. Most of it's planes were French, most of it's armor British. There wasn't the direct line between the POTUS and Israel's PM until a year or two after the warb.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Thanks, I will check it out.
"Its contents, however, threaten to gravely embarrass not only Mr Netanyahu but also the US administration of Barack Obama."
"The film was shot, apparently without Mr Netanyahu’s knowledge, nine years ago,"
So, Barack Obama was in charge 9 years ago?
that it would embarrass Obama because of policy decisions made in this administration. I don't think there's much risk of that, but it's a pretty chilling video. Damn chilling, in fact.
announced the 1600 new settlements in the occupied territories during Biden's visit to Israel. Biden was angered by the announcement.
Then Netanyahu broke the glass in a framed gift to Biden and handed it to Biden with glass shards flying everywhere and said, "All I have to offer you is broken glass. Don't get cut".
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/03...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
how is it that he could possibly have thought it wasn't recorded when that video camera is all over the scene? It's not like it was a stationary hidden camera -- someone is walking around with it.
Looks like it was a planned video.
There's a Universal Law under which even the darkest of the Darksiders must tell what their plans are. They are not, however, required to say it truthfully... think of the great truths told in They Live, Men in Black, Enemy of the State, and above all The Matrix.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
So true, (see: the PNAC manifesto), it's just that sometimes the ideas are so nutty that a rational person just can't believe they're serious.
But they always do tell you in advance, to their slimy credit.
In the midst of the video (3:00 I recall) Bibi asks the camera be turned off, and it is, then the text insert on the screen says the camera was turned back on later in the conversation.
Check it out!
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
I hope someone is checking Cheney's bloodpressure!
Haven't they murdered someone with the right blood type for the heart transplant yet?
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
You just made me choke on my trail mix!!!
Thanks alot!!!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
... I sure as fuck would sleep with an eye open. "Perfect genetic matching" may be the worst words she could possibly hear.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
-_- God damn, guy. This should be on every single headline in the entire US.
There really are no walls anymore. Bush could come out with a Bush saying "This is how I lied people into war, and you suckers sopped it up with a spoon." And nothing would happen.
Because some people have already made their stand on things, and they've pre-decided that moving one inch from that position is weakness. So we stay the course.
I used to be happy there was starting to be some transparency with their rhetoric, that Limbaugh would come out and say "fuck the poor" and everyone knows what he is. But now I'm a little worried that in a world with open, transparent rhetoric, hatred will still win.
Good point. That is their thinking - "fuck the poor, they don't vote."
"All our Politicians look like Pop Stars. All our Pop Stars look like Porn..."
'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique
Is he still in a coma or did he finally kick-it?
Medical experts have indicated that Sharon's cognitive abilities were destroyed by the massive stroke, and that he is in a persistent vegetative state with slim chances of regaining consciousness.
On 13 April 2007, it was reported that Sharon's condition had slightly improved and that according to his son, Omri, he was marginally responsive. On 27 October 2009 his doctor reported that he is still comatose but in a stable condition.
me-oww!
Or at least Bill Frist when you need him.
and demanded his job back as Prime Minister and completely announced that he had "seen the light" and was going to come clean with all the rotten deeds of his life and that he was going to pull back to the pre-'67 borders and make total peace with the Palestinians and grant them their state and freedom!!!
That would be soooooo cool!!!!
Peter G would LOVE it!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
if anybody did that. I'd love it even more if Hamas and Hezbollah would agree.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
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CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
what does Hezbollah have to do with this? They are not synonymous.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Some fighting for freedom, some oppressing it.
It's called politics eh?
Which side you on? ;P
'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique
If we could go back in a time machine and see the Arabs accept the original partition, with a Palestinian state that wasn't swallowed up by Jordan and Egyptb.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
That probably would have prevented much future bloodshed though I seem to recall the partition greatly favoring the new Jewish state with regards to the best lands and the Arab state would not be contiguous.
If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?
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"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Predecessor to AIPAC
Declassified: Massive Israeli manipulation of US media exposed
Institute for Research on Middle Eastern Policy
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
by the knowledge that the current leadership of the Palestinians don't have much use for the Oslo accords either. See where extremism gets you? Nowhere. Slowly and excruciatingly nowhere.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
It is two words, and it starts with an R not an E. The more you know...
But you are correct, red herrings usually get you nowhere... other than to a very fishy and stinky place once they start rotting, plus they taste horrible. Although the Dutch love them. I have seen them gulp them like hotdogs, really gross.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
I apparently misspelled a term I have used nowhere on this thread.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
This document has defined US & Israeli policy in the Middle East for the last decade.
It is wholy consistent with Netanyahu's statements in this video.
Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
what a revelation -really???----to get a forbidden glimpse of this
sociopath's true colors. How this villain was able to get another
foothold into the Israel government as a top leader is unfathomable.
It doesn't say much about the population's mind set ---oh.how could
I forget the helplessness of tiny Israel,a country in possession of
nuclear weapons and willing to actually USE them!!!!
We all should enjoy our,maybe,last days on this earth -compliments
of Mr. N. and his cohort Mr. L.et al.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/report-netanyahu-...
"The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.
"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."
Isn't it great being a fly on the wall. In a similar vein an interview with former Sharon advisor Gideon Levy on Israel's addiction
Levy: Israel is in a "coma" and needs outside help to get over its addiction to the occupation.. http://www.newslook.com/videos/167064-gideon-...
“Oh what a tangled web we weave...
What happened to Air America (radio network)
Ethics Office Clears C Street House In Rent Probe
Study the symptoms not the virus...
What needs to be done is US should stop military aid to every country out there. Most Americans would not have too much against that idea (espeically in a recession). Since pretty much all of it goes to Israel, it'd be an easy way to cut aid to our manipulators. That way there's no anti-semitic comments needed.
We knew this to be the case. Even without the words, all the actions point to this attitude.
All this does is makes it just that little harder for America to deceive itself about the noble and existential defense Israel is putting up against it's evil neighbours.
The tail has been wagging the dog for many, many years.
=my2c
This guy is Israel's Dick Cheney. A real bloodthirsty scumbag.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Thanks for posting the truth. The dialogue is opening on the discussion of too many people in the U.S. govt with dual Israeli citizenship (THAT is a security issue!) and in the media, particularly at the ownership, CEO, and president levels. This is FACT, do your research. But don't do your research in the mainstream media! And we are SUCKERS, that's what Netanyahu is correct about.
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