Anti-gay-rights California Republican arrested for DUI after visiting gay club
Here's another Republican hypocrite who attacks gay rights for his own political gain, but appears to have indulged in the lifestyle he maligns.
Sources tell CBS13 a state senator from Southern California was arrested for allegedly driving drunk after leaving Faces, a gay nightclub in midtown Sacramento, early Wednesday morning.
The California Highway Patrol pulled over Senator Roy Ashburn at 2:00 a.m. Wednesday after an officer noticed a black Chevy Tahoe swerving at 13th and L Streets.
Ashburn, a father of four, is a Republican Senator representing parts of Kern, Tulare and San Bernardino Counties with a history of opposing gay rights.
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Ashburn served six years as a state Assemblyman before being elected to the State Senate. According to Project Vote Smart, Ashburn's voting record shows he has voted against every gay rights measure in the State Senate since taking office including Recognizing Out-Of-State Same-Sex Marriages", Harvey Milk Day and Expanding Anti-Discrimination Laws.
And as my friend Howie Klein says: "He's just another example of a self loathing, right wing sociopath."
This club would've been preferable?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae7Ld_8Y6tE
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
How disappointing. I thought you were going to link to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptx74lGDkNs
"A male passenger, who was not identified as a lawmaker, was also in the car but was not detained."
Roy Cohn.
Roy As(s)burn.
There's something about Roy (R).
Was the Senator's gay male hooker's name Jimmy Swaggart?
I'm shocked! I'll bet Howard Dean is shocked!! An anti-gay, in a GAY CLUB?!?! I'm speechless. I never heard of such a thing from the GOP before! Wow. I'm sure he's got a good explanation: The Devil! (or Obama, same dif)
I don't think that he's shocked that the Republican party would use such measures in its fund-raising attempts, but rather that he's shocked that they would actually write it down and let it leak out.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
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“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
:)
I probably shouldn't have typed anything. However, I just thought it was rather poor to parse Dean's statements as such.
Like the meme of how Gore invented the Internet. Eventually, everything that non-surprising that happens, some joker is going to come out with "Howard Dean was shocked."
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
isn't easily shockable........he's been around a while.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
is what this post is about.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
good one!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
No let him go girl. I like this story.
Republican fund raiser at gay night club springs leak.
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“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
ditto..!!! Only laugh I've had this week!!
Not too many excuses to get you out of that one. Any bets on when the announcement to seek "treatment" comes?
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
The Ted Haggard Clinic of Heterosexual Leather?
he claims he was just doing "research"?
he'll come back with. But I have to agree with the poster above who is waiting to hear when he starts "treatment".
Give the man a break. He probably thought it was a Village People Reunion and got angry when it wasn't.
is intended to be a factual statement
And took a young man home with him who reminded him of one of the village people.
He didn't know that it was a gay bar. He just heard that the bathroom was a great place to practice his tapdancing.
He was drunk, angry, and confused at something said on his Facebook page and he went to what he thought was the home office to complain.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
ROFL! Oh man, I just love Riverdance and Lord of the Dance. More so when crammed in to a 12-by-12 foot bathroom.
I will say one positive thing about this guy.
He immediately, unequivocally took responsibility for his actions and apologized to his constituents and family for letting them down.
More than most of these scum bags do.
...but I will be hard-pressed to give props to anyone who makes it his business to make life harder or more sad for others than it has to be. We get one go around on this ball of mud and people like Assman, here, thinks it's his business to tell other people how to live and limit or take away their rights in an effort to illustrate his point.
Also, if this jerk is apologizing for being gay, then he can REALLY fuck himself. He needs to apologize for being an irresponsible drunk and a flaming hypcocrite (which is probably all he apologized for anyway. i am sure he is going to try to blame libruls, Obama and Da Debbil for that good lookin' piece of trim in his passenger seat).
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
I say to you, "Amen".
Yea you're right. He was probably apologizing for the DUI. The gay denials are yet to come. "I thought he was a migrant worker and I needed some help around the house."
a break! Larry Craig was too drunk to drive,
It will be pathetic to even watch. As will the lack of coverage on the major cable channels, beyond Maddow or Olby I suppose.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
Somebody in that bar recognized him, saw him get into the car, and called the DUI hotline...
I thank you Mr. Anonymous Caller.
according to a follow up on TPM - the gay club owner said it was Latin night at the club and he didn't see him - not that I like the guy but let's keep it factual
8-)
Wait, why did the guy apologize?
being an anti-gay gay Republican? (credit to Senator Al Franken)
Gay Old Party
"Go for the Lord, stay for the gay" — Jon Stewart
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
and the fact that he owned up to it is just magical nonsense?
This from someone on for less than 10 mins.
[You know, you don't need to go after someone hammer and tongs because they're new and you don't like what they're posting. It might have been better for you to point out that the guy claiming to not have seen Ashburn goes for a different type, and he never noticed him. The new poster did provide a link from TPM-Sitemonitor]
LOL. I read the story on TPM. the owner of Faces speculated he came from a different gay bar.
Did they say he was dressed....inappropriately?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Then he was dressed appropriately for said bar.
Well, that's a good excuse.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/201...
as for the "10 minute" comments ES&D
... not the question. It's your implication that Ashburn wasn't at the bar AT ALL.
Clearly, the bar must have been mentioned somewhere in the exchange between Ashburn and the CHP, or he was directly observed leaving the premises. Otherwise, there's no reason to assert that he was there in the first place.
But weaving coming out of a driveway would certainly attract the attention of a patrolling officer. It suggests the driver is either using a cell-phone/texting OR is DUI.
prostitutes to pick up closeted johns, I don't think you need to suggest he went into the establishment. The parking lot works just fine.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
The State of Californicate also parks police officers outside of bars any way as a matter of easy precaution and easy revenues. DUI checkpoints aer common in Californicate, however parkin cops at bars is a good source of revenues and gets these Republicvans off the streets early.
Seems reasonable that this Republican was nabbed just as he and his hooker came out of the bar and drove off.
He was pulled over 5 blocks away from the bar. That's enough time for a cop to call in the license plate before pulling him over. Sounds to me like the cop saw him pull out from the bar.
Cops will pull drunk drivers over first and then call in the plate. Probably this Republican Christian was sighted wrecklessly driving after being observed leaving the bar.
'Course when the cop ran the plate and found it belonged to some scumbag who probably has money (as opposed to the majority of Californians) he or she went "Kerching!" knowing that here's a scumbag that can be tagged for money for his crime.
"...but appears to have indulged in the lifestyle he maligns."
No offense, but it's not a "lifestyle"...it's a life. "Lifestyle" is a RW meme, implying a choice.
Just thought that needed pointing out.
that indicates an occasional lapse........this dude is hard core--he just won't own up to it.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Good point and one I will use if anybody runs that term at me in conversation.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
Doesn't get any funnier.
So when do the Republicans just reveal that their whole party is just a parody of itself and it was just a big joke from the start? Really, these people can't be doing this so consistently just as a coincidence, can they?
"I could give a flying crap about the political process.... We're an entertainment company."
- Glenn Beck - Forbes interview; April 26, 2010
that they're doing that, subconciously.
GOH--Greedy Old Hypocrites--or, GAY Old Hypocrites!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
...be Andy Kauffman. I have suspected that Andy faked his death and came back as one of the many apparently insane GOP pols, but haven't been able to flush him out. He might be more powerful than I thought: can Andy have split himself into hundreds of individuals, currently pulling off the biggest prank in history?
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
Toadally. The GOP should just hang bright lights and rename themselves to the Hump Rangers Men's Glee Club (HRGM) and give the self denial a rest.
One of my best friend's brother and father were both killed in separate accidents by drunk drivers.
Roy Ashburn has not made his career by being an anti-drunk driving enthusiast.
Roy Ashburn has, however, made a career of being (hypocritically) anti-gay, hell, he has a 100% anti-gay rating.
So that's the point of the post.
Regardless of how much drunk driving sucks, and that's awful about your best friend's family.
and I think Bob Stanley has a point. I'll bet he has been a poster boy for MADD too. As far as I know. Which ain't far.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
but we don't yet know the facts and the DUI Nazis (MADD) have dumbed the laws down so much that ANYBODY driving away from a bar is a target.
Yea. Some Toyotas will drive you home from the bar automatically.
order from Mr. Toyoda himself.
And? What's the problem with that? Even one glass of alcohol or even one beer adversely impact's one's motor functions -- that's the whole swatting point of alcohol.
Drunk driving should cause the revocation of a driving license for one year. Second offense should be prison for a year. Third offense should be execution on grounds of attempted manslaughter.
Drunk drivers have the right to be stopped from killing people.
MADD kool-aid. You are foolish in your statements and IMO have not done ANY due diligence on the subject and you are flailing about in an attempt to make some wee bit of objection to my statements.
Your statement on consumption is flat out wrong.
I suggest you do some research and come back to talk sometime.
If you do, you will find that the current laws have been an abysmal failure in what MADD has stated is the goal - reducing deaths attributed to drunk driving.
We have a greatly enlarged criminal class, however, the overwhelming majority of which have caused ZERO harm to themselves, anyone else, or any property.
DUI is a witch hunt and it's working. Our justice system is supposed to be better than what DUI laws presuppose as guilt.
I'll give you just one example. With DUI - you are not innocent until proven guilty. A fallible machine spits out a number and although evidentiary in probable cause is used to CONVICT you PRIOR to any opportunity to defend yourself in court.
Look up Per Se guilt. It's a start for the uninformed.
Welcome to the America you have helped to create and perpetuate.
www.ridl.us
www.duiblog.com
We can now say, when some politician/religions figure/etc strongly advocates policies against gay people, this is actually them coming out. Not in a healthy way, but you can be sure they've just outed themselves.
I heard he asked the officer that stopped him: "Does this guys dick in my mouth make me look gay??"
all it takes is all of us
wins the comedy award!!!!!
...I'll be here all week....don't forget to tip your waitrons
all it takes is all of us
"Officer, any chance I can just... ah... 'slip between the crack' here?"
Why no, however the shirt does.
Alcoholic
Sociopath
Republican
NEXT!1!1!
Seems a bit odd for progressive thinkers to convict by association.
Just because the guy is an a**hole and anti-gay doesn't mean visiting a gay bar (or any other establishment) makes him gay or "in the life(style)" or any other broadbrush ad hominem.
I'm not defending the jerk but my funny little honey has been to a gay bar with her gay friends and she didn't turn gay or leave me for a woman.
If we can get more of the homophobes into a gay bar once in a while without condemning them to conversion it will be a win-win for both sides.
Just sayin'
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Theoretically you may be correct....but I'll tell you that I've come across many a "straight" man in a gay bar...and they weren't looking for conversation.
And nobody "turns" gay. I know you meant that facetiously, but I thoughtI'd point it out.
Unless you suspend them from the ceiling fan in a harness.
til you tried it.
;)
lol
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
is the use of a lazy susan.
Susan doesn't sound lazy to me. Do you have a link or was this first hand?
but I forget the title... was some art film I was entertaining myself with.
If just going to a gay bar makes one gay then count me in too.
And "turning" gay can mean figuring it out later in life. I have a few gay friends who have previously been married and have children (that also didn't make them straight) and it "turns" out they weren't!
:)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Everyone is gay...they just don't know it, yet.
;)
I didn't know I was gay until my boyfriend kissed me--and I liked it.
I've been to a gay bar. Didn't know at the time until I made the observation after one beer: "Hey... there are no women here." Long story, short: I was with a group of people in Atlanta that were at one club and they decided to go to another club. Since I was buzzing pretty good and couldn't drive, I had to tag along.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
Doh! You said "tag". Careful.
poor choice of words. :)
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
;) I get another toaster oven!
I went to a bar once, and saw a cute guy....then suddenly I realized I was in a Lesbian bar. As a gay man, I was quite embarrassed. True story.
reminded me of time I went to a party with a cousin and some of her friends in college. As a freshman, I thought it was rather cool to go to a party with about 20 to 30 college girls and just two guys.
However, then I realized very quickly... All the girls were lesbians and the one guy was gay.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
The girls making out, or the guy making out with you?
;)
When his girlfriend peed standing up.
you all are rolling this morning.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
So you're saying the party wasn't a total loss...
Funny, funny. No.
I'm a pie guy... not a cake boy.
Back to the story...
The girls making out. But they weren't making out making out, but rather just the way they were dancing with each other.
The only thing gay about me is that I consider myself a male lesbian. One of the best things I ever did was to learn all I can from lesbians about making a woman happy. My wife of 16 years has been quite pleased.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG_I429BC9M
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
and very under-appreciated. I rank it near the top with "D.E.B.S." as far as alternative spy movies tend to go.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
Twas a joke thunder. I'm not challenging your manhood.
That last bit was meant as a tip. So, guys before you get married or get into a serious long-term relationship... learn all you can from either lesbians or gays as to how to please your partner.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
way they were dancing with each other."
You hetero guys are so easily pleased..........
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Food/beverages, sports (or entertainment) and sex.
That's really all we amount to at times.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
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“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Judging from his passenger the guy takes his work home with him.
Oops. There I go again. Judging.
In college...then got my Master's afterward.
Hmmm...did I say that?
a research grant from Ted Haggard University.
.
Meat the new boss.
...an anti-gay congress critter in a gay bar? What the hell is that?
One this is for sure, I mean, one thing I realized from reading your reasonable post, is that I am going to chill a bit. If he was my congress critter I would keep on his ass (d'oh!), but beyond that it is barely my business, beyond the cathartic fun of ripping him a new one over my morning coffee (d'oh!Pt2).
If we can get more of the homophobes into a gay bar once in a while
If we could, and they could get into touch with the part they of themselves they spend so much time suppressing and taking out on the rest of the world, help them find some peace, then I am all for it!
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
A business meeting? Weird hours for one, and a weird location. If a constituent wanted to meet you and insisted on a bar, wouldn't you be wondering why, exactly?
Just sayin'
!!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
yes, you're right... incredibly anti-gay politicians have other reasons to go to the gay part of town and go to gay bars where they get drunk and then leave with an unidentified man.
what are you smoking?
Why yes. Yes it does.
Or, to be more accurate in the most likely case, the Republican is most likely bisexual or mostly heterosexual and gives in to homosexual urges from time to time.
How many completely heterosexual men do you know of visit gay bars and pick up male strangers and then drive off with them while drunk?
It's amusing. One's orientation isn't either or, it's a spectrum. This guy votes against equal rights when he delves in mancock so he rightfully deserves to be called for it.
it can't be said that he doesn't represent the majority of his constituents....
his district is one of the more Conservative areas of the southern Central Valley. Many voters there are only 2-3 generations away from walking on all fours....
For a progressive site, I am CONSTANTLY seeing this.....
It's NOT a Preference or a lifestyle. If it was, I should be asking all of you when you CHOSE to be straight. That is, when did you try the gay, decide it didn't quite fit, and exchange it?
Okay then 'splain to me the bi-sexual?
Can a bisexual CHOOSE?
Reduce the binary thinking and embrace the nuance.
:)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
to both genders. Gay to the same gender, hetero to the opposite one. No choice involved. How difficult is that to get across?
A bisexual, I suspect, is attracted to an individual who may be of either gender.
Homosexuals and heterosexuals, likewise are attracted to individuals.
Unless there is a group thing going on. In which case, never mind.
Studies of the Bonobos have been informative about our nearest relatives on this earth.
One is here
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
be bisexual unless you've been attracted to BOTH. Notice, we're speaking of attraction, not the sex act.
I did use the term attracted, as did you. I think you are agreeing with me, n'est pas?
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
you were implying that I was incorrect. And don't get all French with me, young lady! ;)
..with a correction: n'est-ce pas.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Ooh! Ooh!
The bonobos are the chimps that solve all their problems and conflicts through sex. All kinds of sex, none of its forbidden to them. And because of it, they are much more peaceful than your garden variety chimps.
I don't have any chimps in my garden.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
W never dropped by in Plano?
"Reduce the binary thinking and embrace the nuance"
Understand, rather, that you use (and reinforce) the rightwing frames, 'nuance' be damned.
respondiing to Justadood. And Mr. L is right. Justadood
implied the "views and preferences" of Mr. Ashburn reflect
his contitutents who are "only 2-3 generations away from walking on all fours."
Mr. L responded that this is not a preference or a lifestyle.
Walking on all fours is inherited.
Nothing in Mr. J's remarks mentioned sex.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Lib was responding to Just.
Handy responded to that.
Lib responded to Handy's response to Libs comment.
Now, mr. smarty pants thread helper, read it all again and see if it makes sense to you.
out on me again Mr. Shovel my face in it. You are just tyring to get in my nuance.
And just to call a club a club, Mr. L interjected the sex. Everyone else whom followed that lead did so by preference.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
have to go sit in the corner at recess.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
spank you.
standing or on all fours?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
going to get put in and left in the sling, if you don't watch it.
:)
...going downhill...
...rapidly....
lolz
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
IS a lifestyle choice.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
This is one of the things I like about being liberal, progressive, whatever the f*ck:
in the end we usually end up giving equal time to laugh at ourselves, too.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
I would say a bisexual cannot choose, because there's something different physically in the two forms, as well as probably in terms of psychosexual interconnectiveness.
And since you cannot marry two people, least of all a man and a woman, half of their natures either have to be repressed or indulged illicitly.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I dislike when language is used in such a manner to minimize a person for being who they are and reducing it to what they are.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
over at TPM. This guy looks like he has been "Legislating Under the Influence" for some time.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
My kind of partay music...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVeYBuHIqFA
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
what is worse. Hating yourself, hating others, or hating yourself so much you seek positions of power in order to project that hatred onto others in more massive amounts than if you were the measly peon as you really see yourself.
Wait...OK...I do know :-)
you seek positions of power in order to project that hatred onto others in more massive amounts than if you were the measly peon as you really see yourself.
Also known as a "top".
We should hold a coming out of the closet party for him.
Well, after he gets out of jail anyways...
how you think he'll spend any time in jail... Might have had to spend the rest of the night in a drunk tank (probably not even that.) but he'll get a small fine, and probably have his drivers' license suspended for 6 months... Laws are for poor people!
"I could give a flying crap about the political process.... We're an entertainment company."
- Glenn Beck - Forbes interview; April 26, 2010
To lead white closeted gay Republican men out of the closet and onto the mountain top? Clearly someone like Ted Haggard needs an new evangelical calling to lead his people to freedom. I see Megachurch potential here and one heck of a men's fellowship every Wedneday night.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
!!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
The Penis Whisperers?
There's really nothing left to say after that.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
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