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You've probably been hearing a lot of Republican talking points that rewrite history by saying that as soon as Bill Clinton came into office, he adopted a loony left-wing agenda that was rejected immediately, and he suffered for it. The Villagers and right wingers are thus warning Obama to govern like Republicans (which, if you think about it, would mean giving the other side of the aisle the hot poker while proceeding with the most extreme agenda imaginable).

Bill O'Reilly and his pals are so very afraid of Obama's upcoming agenda. After all, look how great our country is running right now after eight years of Bush. Check out the jobless statistics today. It's staggering.

As I see it, Obama is not as progressive as I am, not if you look at his voting record, but is a moderate Democrat and will probably govern that way. Howie Klein and I wrote a piece back in May that outlined Obama's record when FOX and pals were trying to scare the country into thinking that Barack was the most liberal Senator in Congress so you should be very afraid. That argument didn't work too well even to Conservatives. Nearly Half of Conservatives Confident in Obama

Anatomy of a Right Wing Myth: Obama is the most liberal Democratic Senator

Lately John and I have been gnashing our collective teeth every time we see one of the Republican shills on TV repeating, mantra-like, the #1 GOP Big Lie of the campaign: "Barack Obama is the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate."

If only! Actually there are 39 Democrats with more liberal voting records, although Obama does at least beat perennial Bush rubber stamps Holy Joe Lieberman (CT), Ben Nelson (NE) and Mary Landrieu (LA). His voting record-- however you slice it, however you dice it-- points to a solidly mainstream centrist...read on

I know I'll disagree with some of his policies as he moves forward, but that's to be expected.

Digby writes an excellent piece that outlines what happened when Bill Clinton took office.

Jonathan Schwarz addresses this myth that Clinton came in and tried to do all this crazy leftist stuff which resulted in his losing the 1994 election. It's driving me nuts:

Their latest masterpiece is the Terrifying True Tale of How the Early Clinton Administration Was Crippled by Liberals. You see, Bill Clinton began his presidency by giving into his wild-eyed leftist instincts. But the wise American people rejected his class warfare! They punished him and the Democrats by giving control of congress to Republicans in the 1994 midterm elections. So Clinton sobered up and governed from the center. Obama better not repeat Clinton's mistakes by giving into the left! The End.

In reality, of course, Clinton knuckled under to the center right—much of which was located within the Democratic party—from the very beginning. Following their advice, he went all out to pass NAFTA, then failed to pass universal health care. People who'd been desperate in 1992 saw no economic improvement by 1994. And with the low 45% voter turnout in the midterms, the Democrats lost control of Congress (mostly via the defeat of center right Democrats).

Here's an especially fine example of the Terrifying True Tale, by John Heilemann in New York Magazine. Heilemann deserves extra credit for berating people who remember history for not remembering history...read on

In actuality, it was the moderate members of the Democratic party who helped to derail his agenda. Many of them wound up being washed out in the 1994 GOP tide their own ineffectiveness helped create.

More Digby:

I'm not saying that Clinton didn't screw up. But if you look at what he actually did, it wasn't playing too far to the left. He was one of the architects of DLC corporate politics and made a veritable fetish out of appeasing big business and wingnuts. It's that he couldn't manage his own Democratic egomaniacs, mostly in the Senate, and he allowed the Republicans and the villagers to poison the public against his program before he even had a chance to implement it, despite his constant capitulation to their demands. He could never control the narrative and it narrowed his options to small bore, incrementalist centrism, which is as far to the left as the political establishment wants any Democrat to go.

Please read the whole thing. I believe it's important because so much of what happened is being left out at a crucial time in our history.



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will save us from ourselves.

is back to serving their masters

repubs and their radio screech monkeys would scream that he's the most liberal Hun in all of history.

)O(

Which one?

Bill Clinton is a Republican. Period. So is Hillary. Period.

Their time has passed. The 21st Century has finally begun and they

are part of the 20th Century. Iraq Sanctions, NAFTA, The Telecom Bill,

East Timor, Rawanda, bombing Serbia, I can go on and on.

)O(

Until about 2045 all candidates for high-office will be 20th century babies.

to fuck shit up, don't we?

It's getting harder to find un-fucked-up shit these days...

I couldn't agree with you more and for that reason I find the people that Obama is surrounding himself with, especially on foreign policy(e.g. Clintons, Albrights, Wesley Clarks, etc.) all the more troubling. Instead of "turning the page" I suspect we're going to flip the book back a couple of chapters and start the damn thing all over.

..appointment could possibly help to bring back any semblance of the economic and even diplomatic stability which the U.S. enjoyed throughout much of the 90's, then I'll get my Green Card just to support her bid for president in 2016.

Nothing like taking advice from the side that lost by a landslide to act just as they did.

Wait, maybe they just want the chance to be on the other side of the landslide in 2012...

He wouldn't have won, if that were the case. The only thing Bill was remotely liberal on was "universal health care", and look what happened when he pretended to try to pass it. By our standards, Obama might be moderate, but by the standards of what we've had to endure since Reagan, he'll probably be the most liberal President in decades.

The twisted twit let much of the deregulatory madness that we're paying for now through while he was president. The credit card issuing banks end-running the usury laws - all of that was done on his watch.

He and war pig Hillary need to apologize and jump off of a bridge together somewhere.

Yeah this "most liberal" tag really is annoying given Obama's moderate voting record.I think a lot of Liberal Blogs are much more Progressive than anything Fox dreams up about the Democratic Party.

I guess when you get as far right as these cretins, most people would be perceived as "left".

what Michael Moore said about Bill Clinton in Stupid White Men: "Bill Clinton was the best REPUBLICAN president we've ever had". It still rings true. From my perspective, if things go right, Obama will be the best CENTRIST president of the US.

I had this as a handle:

status quObama, change you can pretend in.

In all earnestness, the lesser of two evils is also one that is better than the other.

Bill Clinton couldn't do health care so he did NAFTA. Or SHAFTA, as we call it in Michigan.

Hillary Clinton for Secretary of State?!? Everything old is new again.

Rush Limpnitz raged about the "Obama recession". Obama was just elected, after 12 out of 14 years of a Republican House and Senate that taxed and spent us into economic oblivion, 8 years of a president who promised to lower the national debt (should've promised to double it), Obama still has 68 days to go until he's sworn in and that idiot is screaming that this is Obama's recession.
Rush the LOSER!

Clinton, all over again. Limpballs is just trying to get a jump on the competition.

As for the losers--they have been US. Limballs hasn't lost enough yet.

May I please become a citizen of whatever country these people live in where two of the last three presidents has been a far-left liberal? Sounds like a very nice place.

Seriously, like everybody else is saying, if you look at an absolute scale rather than recent US history or the fantasy world the right wing lives in, Bill Clinton was somewhat right of center, at best. Good Republican indeed. Hillary appears to be a little farther left, but not much.

As for Obama, it's hard to tell yet, but he looks like a little to the left of center, which would make him the first legitimately Democratic president since Carter.

This is assuming he doesn't completely capitulate once he's in office. I'm not optimistic, but I am hoping.

It'd be funny if we ever did actually elect a capable, relatively far-left president, with say a left-of-center Congress to temper him or her; willing to bet we wouldn't be drowning in debt and war, that's for sure.

I agree with this one entirely -- actually, Clinton caved on his leftist campaign promises once he got into office and just let the Republicans drive him into the ground.

Thankfully Obama is not liberal.

That's the last thing we need.

I am so glad that he just made it seem like he was liberal to some people while making it seem like he wasn't to others. You gotta love some politicians for doing what's right, and that's pandering to all sorts of people to get elected. Now that he's in office he can do the bidding of his corporate overlords.

God bless Barack Obama, the non-liberal Democrat president.

My biggest fear is that you might be right. The more things seem ready to change, the more everything becomes much the same. I know Obama isn't even President yet, and it's still sooooooooooo early, but based on the signals from him so far, this all is becoming too familiar.

Go tell our paranoid, intolerant and greedy conservative brethren not to despair over a "liberal" revolution in government. The United States has, unfortunately, never had a liberal government let alone a leftist government in its entire 232 year history. Neither have any of its states or territories, and fewer than a handful of its municipalities ever taken the liberal road.

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