Ed Rollins on Sarah Palin quitting: It was a disaster and insulting
(h/t Heather of VC)
Ed Rollins, who has run many a Republican campaign, crushed Sarah Palin's decision to quit her job as Alaska's governor on CNN's State of The Union yesterday. He called it a disaster and went as far as saying that he was insulted by it.
I guess she wants to go on the TV and the book tour circuit instead of helping Alaskans who voted her into office. Times are tough right now and she'd rather leave them all behind than try to help them get through this economic meltdown. Rollins didn't pull any punches.
ED ROLLINS, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: I think yesterday was a disaster, Friday was a disaster for her both in the sense that she was very incoherent in articulating why she was quitting and what she wanted to do with it.
And as I always say, you call press conferences to answer questions, not to basically raise questions. I think the serious thing here is 311 days ago, very few people in America, very few Republicans outside of Alaska knew who this woman was. She had a tremendous first few weeks as a campaigner, but she got super imposed on top of the Republican establishment. It's sort of like taking a helicopter and putting her on top of Mt. Everest, which John McCain was flying it.
Everybody else climbed up that ladder, and all of the sudden she's on top of the mountain. She didn't like it -- or she did like the top of the mountain. What she didn't like was coming back to Earth, flying back to Alaska to her job as governor.
I think the reality here is her biggest mistake is walking away from the job as governor. She would have at least had a record to run on. She is going to have a partial record today that's going to be very incomplete. I found her very insulting to other governors. We have 22 other Republican governors, 19 of whom are basically going to be out of this office after running in two years. Nine are term limited and many others have to run. And she basically said in the last year you run around and do all kinds of things, and I would predict to you every single Republican governor like most Democratic governors are at their desk trying to figure out how to get through the economic crisis. I think she insulted them. I think to a certain extent it showed a naivete and I think she basically left a big, big void in her resume.
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Man smart, woman smarter.
It's refreshing to have right-wing radio take a break from smearing Obama to complain about how poorly Palin is being treated by the left-wing media.
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"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I for one, will not comment on Ed's sexual orientation.
great teacher, you must extend a digit to those driving slowly in the fast lane.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Bill Bennett is the guy who lost almost 1 million bucks playing the slot machines in Vegas; the slots for Chrissake! How stupid can one person be? So why is he on TeeVee, giving his two cents on anything? Why should anyone care what this idiot has to say. Hell, I can round up a couple of pathetic crackheads right now who would speak with as much credibility as Bill Bennett
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
...idiot....pathetic crackhead....
Neither one is an idiot or a crackhead and calling them that makes the whole site and those that comment here look foolish. It is inaccurate, mean spirited and in my mind denigrating to people that use critical thinking and are serious about exploring topics and discussing them rationally.
If you don't like what I just said please tell me about it in a rational manner and justify sounding hateful instead of insightful.
Go peddle that bs at Red State, Concern Troll!
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
More insults. I am no troll. You can't justify so you throw more mud. You can't think or write critically so you insult.
you are no fun at parties. That really hurts, man.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
... leads me to believe you have some serious self confidence issues. Alas, I did not mean to bring forth some painful memories from your buzz killing repertoire. For that I apologize.
That horse you're on is pretty high!
;)
I guess you weren't in on the post about Coulter that turned into a back alley knife fight. I am of tired of the crap that passes for conversation here. High horse? OK!
I was trying to be nice here. I don't consider you a troll, but you are coming off with a condescending holier than thou attitude. And yes, you are up there riding a high horse. Deal with it and maybe you won't get so snark. And if you don't like the converstion here, then I politely suggest you go elsewhere. No one is forcing you to be here.
Like when a Republican says "America, love it or leave it" when you beat them in a debate. They can't back up there bullshit stance on an issue so they tell you to leave the country if you don't like it. Typical.
If you have a fire in your kitchen do you pack your bags and move? NO you put out the fire and keep your home. If I don't like mindless insults I am going to voice that opinion and if you think i am being a jerk, fine, then why don't YOU go somewhere else?
I was with you in spirit (I toss out too many insults towards republicans and conservatives myself, but they drive me to it!), but now you are gettin' a tad touchy (it happens to the all of us, trust me. I even banned myself once).
Besides, beyond the insulting words, Gene WAS making a valid point. Now if you want to argue that it is a point that may have been made many times BEFORE, that is a horse of different color.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
I don't like Bill Bennet either and for good reason. He wrote "The Book of Virtues" and turns out to be a degenerate gambler. But an idiot, no. A crackhead, no. Just a sick and deluded Republican who has no business on TV.
Nowhere did Gene214 call Bennett or anyone else a "crackhead". He said he could round up a couple of crackheads who could speak with as much authority as Bennettt. This does not infer that Bennett is a "crackhead", just that he is as eloquent as one.
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" - Red Green
Freedom Ain't Free - Pay Your Share
He did NOT say they were pathetic crackheads but only that pathetic crackheads would have more credibility with him than they do.
This whole argument is based on a misperception by jhunter and I'm surprised it took this long for someone to point that aspect of it out.
I think we all agree on that.
Here's the thing, though, as I see it:
People come here to discuss, share info, links, and bandy about notions, but they also come here to vent. And vent they do, within limits. The SMs will step in when it goes overboard, natch, esp. when posters start going after each other, but the salty language is going to continue. It can be pretty cathartic. I know it is for me.
I trust you aren't going anywhere, btw.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
I merely suggested, if you didn't enjoy it here, why subject yourself to it? I'm not the one giving out mindless insults here. You're attacking the wrong person. If you reread that thread, I was not the instigator and only got slammed for making a harmless pop culture comparison on another's comment. You have beatebn none but yourself by trying to be so high and mighty...so I guess the ignore user function will be pulled out for you. Too bad, I found your comments somewhat interesting, but no longer.
I did use it once and it made my life here easier. At first I felt like I was copping out by avoiding that poster's comments, but I think I did us both a favor. All we were bound to do is make each other unnecessarily unhappy.
(the poster wasn't a bad sort, I just couldn't read his/her posts anymore, for a variety of reasons)
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
My ignore user list has gotten rather long...but it does make the forum easier reading. It has its pros and cons. and for me, right now, it works. It gets old and tiresome, internet fighting. Usually it's for straight-out trolls, but there are a few others for different reasons. It's better for me and the site mons.
Let's see, he's been a member for over two weeks, so probably not a troll. I'd say he's too concrete. Can't handle playful language, banter, etc. Somewhere on Axis 1.
And, is it me, or is Ed Rollins going off script here in a meaningful way? Part of this feels like there's a fairly well orchestrated effort by Palin's rivals to nail the coffin shut while she's lying in it.
I see where he's coming from. I've read his posts, he's not a troll. But sometimes the mindless insulting foul language gets a little overdone. I've done it, I'm no saint. I just felt there was an attitude problem developing, hence the playful (read ;)) high horse comment. Oh well, I don't think I'll ignore him...yet. He's probably got me on it already...;)
n/c
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
I've never used the ignore button. On most computers, if you hit the space bar, it goes page down. Problem solved. Why is everyone so thin skinned?
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
it's easier on me and the site mons. I don't have to type long responsive diatribes to disagreeable statements. But I use it carefully, not blatantly. But to each their on on its use. It works for me.
You and me, at the bike rack, after school!!!!
I totally kid.
Hey:
Some people just rub a guy the wrong way. Haven't you ever moved away from someone at a party and spent the rest of the night a prudent distance away? Why fight, right? Why be aggravated by whatever they are saying if you don't have to be? Similar thing.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
Yes, but as I grow and learn, and have become a yoga teacher, the yoga teacher in me says, "STOP". Quiet your mind and observe your emotion, and how it plays on you. Emotions are illusory: they are nothing. What it really is is an assault on our "preciuos ego" (we've all got 'em.) Most of us develop egos about age 5 or so. We become very attached to them and nurture them. They block us from so much: they close our minds to so much: they individuate us: they make us alone.
As we are human (beasts, animals), it's normal to have an automatic reaction, but be still and take a look at it, and you'll see it's really nothing. I never stay angry more than about 5 minutes, and that's after really having been thoroughly enraged. I just move on. I am disappointed at myself for even having been angry: it was my weakness, my shortcoming.
But maybe you didn't want to know all that. So I'll see you at the bike rack (come alone, if you know what's good for you.)
;)
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
...with all sincerity:
I aspire to be able to relax that quickly. I am, as they say, a work in progress.
My gf has encouraged me to try yoga. Good stuff. Excellent part of any fitness regime, in my yoga-noob opinion.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
Keep at it. Avoid the "new age" permutations and combinations. Make sure to do the meditation with a good master. (Not some good-looking flex-pixie.)
Once you hear Nada, then find (the very elusive) Aum/Ohm, you'll know how to chill: 60 to 0 in 20 seconds.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Meditation and breathing are key. Fie on me for implying that yoga should be used merely to get fit (though it is excellent for that, better than I even imagined). Though, I have to say, yoga bod "flex pixies" are pretty hot...
And regarding your pot statement below:
>pffffffft<
...here ya...go...[cough]
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
It also makes you more flexible.
That's for certain, and it changes your life forever. For the better. Better than any drug, or self help. You learn to know yourself and be happy with yourself and even admire your "warts", and laugh about 'em.
*Pot is still nice though.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Who died and made you site sheriff today?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I can write whatever I want as long as I follow the rules.
Were you in on post about Coulter where sexism and insulting overtook the thread? Hmmmm?
You would rather defend an insulting commenter than try and support a more civil discourse? Hmmmm?
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
[the real site sheriff is getting tired of this. Knock it off, any more OT bickering will be deleted. - site monitor]
Caught this after my last post. (I did go for "diplomatic", though).
:)
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
Ignore user
just a suggestion.
And, speaking of the internetz police, where are the metaphor cops? Everest is too high to land a helicopter on, I don't think John McCain is rated on one, and that's a heckuva a long ladder to be pulling up.
I think mc caint can only crash jets on ships.
OURS - you know - U.S.ships.
Not the ships on mountains.
Technically it was just some power lines but you get the point.
... he managed to crash plenty of US Hardware on and off US ships. McCain was an equal opportunity f*ck up. In fact, it seems he is one of the few individuals with the distinction of having been involved in plane crashes on a multitude of continents!
It would be funny to tally up the overall cost to the US tax payer of McCain's flying career.
Somehow, McCain completely missed his calling: ejection seat tester.
Mon, 07/06/2009 - 15:27 — RuperttheBear
Ignore user
just a suggestion.
And, speaking of the internetz police, where are the metaphor cops? Everest is too high to land a helicopter on, I don't think John McCain is rated on one, and that's a heckuva a long ladder to be pulling up.
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Especially when he's peeing out the open door.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
More confirmation on how completely unfit she was to be VP
Makes you think what would have happened if her and McCain had won *shudders* and God forbid John had passed away while in office. What would Sarah say?
"I Quit."
Way to go Sarah Palin. Country First!
NOBODY 2012
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She has taken herself out of the game. Please, no one tell her. Much entertainment may otherwise be lost.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
if Sarah continues to receive the sage-like advice that she's been getting up to this point.
and she thinks she is putting an end to the unwarranted insults and attention she is dumber than a hammer full of sacks. She must have missed the whole point of the Paris Hilton part of her mentor's campaign. You are cable news filler for life.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
The sad-funny (not haha-funny) bit about cable jetsam and flotsam is that they think they ARE the show, not sitting on the sidelines. Her unnatural hair tint will provide a breath of fresh air to the usual Faux morning line-up.
You mean they really are not "THE SHOW." Anna Nichole Smith did not die for them? It really was for us?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I'm sot tired of this Republican base. How long are we going to let this 28% rule the world? They did for 8 years under Bush. The real battle is stiffling this GOP base. With them out of the way, America can get back to normal. The America I used to like and respect.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
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statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
The real agenda will remain unopposed as long as they can masquerade as their own opposition.
He makes a good point. I had not considered the economic situation of the state in her decision. Much easier to just wash her hands of the whole thing than to stay and help Alaskans make it through this mess. Also, her insult to other governors is a great point.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
"I guess she wants to go on the TV and the book tour circuit instead of helping Alaskans who voted her into office."
True, but shouldn't a politician want to help ALL of your state's voters, regardless for whom they voted?
Just a thought.
PS: Ed Rollins does NOT remind me of Mr/Mrs Garrison. ;)
This Parnell guy is the real deal.
He's from Alaska
He's a reformer
The state has done tremendous under his leadership
He's charismatic.
I say we support him.
Oh my.
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..one office at a time.
n/t
Silence from the prosecution for giving up the governorship.
For Palin wearing thrift shop clothes isn't fun any more. Country mouse has been to the city and now she likes the idea of being a city mouse. She likes the fancy clothes, makeup artist, hair dresser and you probably can't afford all those lovely things on a governor's salary when you have five kids and a grandchild to look after. Gonna need the big bucks to live the big life.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
like "The Princess Diaries" or "Ratatouille".
;)
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in the background?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Oh yeah. TOTALLY. She's going for the big $$$ kill. She doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone but herself, not even her "precious" kids. We saw them being shifted around the country for photo-ops, put in the public eye: all of America digging into their private lives. They're f##king just young kids, for crisssssssake.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
I love it.
Ed just said mean things about the head of his party and savior of chritianistic secessionism. He's toast.
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Ed says she left a big hole in her resume.
Sarah says "Resume? I don't need no stinkin' resume. I'm Sarah Palin for christsakes!"
Wall Street smoothies still enjoying their Hamptons villas while the foreclosed set up tents in the Sacramento Delta.
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"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
A bag of win for you, sir.
Sarah is going nowhere except to the bank to cash in on all her fame. Think about it. Billy Kristol, James Carville, KKKarl Rove, Ollie North, Mary Matalin, etc, etc, etc.....all complete f*cktards without a brain cell between them, but all made filthy rich by the unbiased media. Have no fear. Palin will make more cash out of office, than in.
The sad reality of this has driven me to the liquor cabinet early today.
things crashing every day -- enterprises, households, assets, institutions, prospects, deals. No amount of stimulus, first, second, or beyond, will avail to stop this process.
Whiskey sours. It's a theory that I am testing and it seems to be working.
..trust me. Go easy on the mixer and long on the ice though or you'll be looking for some hair of the dog in the AM.
I watch my savings dwindle daily, with the experts telling me how the green shoots are a comin', all the while the media dwells on a freak's death, and an unqualified politician stepping down. Oh and others tell me give it time, give it time. Gonna use that for my mortgage payments. Give it time Mr. Greedy Fraudulent Banker. I'll make my payments by 2010 or 12 I promise. LOL. What a world we live in.
And although we haven’t sunk to the level of austerity endured at the time of the Great Depression - give this mess a little more time.
...all complete f*cktards without a brain cell between them
Oooohh.....watch it with the bad words or jhunter99844 (see above) will tell you you're a mean person......
She ain't going away. FOX has probably offered her a show of her own already.
language in her speech will surely afford her at least one weekly opinion column syndicated among many right wing rags.
I really wish Sarah Palin would run. It would be a cake walk for all Democratic coattails everywhere. She would be the perfect example of the vacuum that is the Repubs and would make a easy target for media criticism and a lousy excuse to support, if you're a Repub that is.
As far a resigning, well, the American public hates a quitter. Ross Perot never got his political footing after his brief exit in the middle of campaigning, as well as, when McCain had to stop campaigning to "fix" the economy. The voters can't stand it when their dog quits because said dog gets frustrated and the other dogs don't want to cooperate.
American voters want someone who can weather the storm and chew gum at the same time. Americans figure those are good characteristics for high office.
Fox News Contributor Rips into Palin, calls her inarticulate, undereducated . . .
Video here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/fox-...
How soon can she start?
are dumping on her:
Wall St. Journal editorial page
"The Palin Puzzle" July 7, 2009
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1246835010383...
". . . Mrs. Palin's explanation on Friday was hardly clear or persuasive, wandering from the taxpayer expense of various ethics probes, to the self-indulgence of lame-duck Governors who serve out their terms, to the fact that she and her family had concluded she can better serve the people out of public office. Some Alaskans, including many of her admirers, can be forgiven if they conclude she bugged out when the going got rough."
National Review Online
Jonathan Goldberg, The Corner
Friday, July 3, 2009
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDY1...
"Palin Resigning [Jonah Goldberg]
Well, aside from my timing being impeccable, the best I can say is I'm flabbergasted.
Not running again could make sense as a pre-presidential move. Resigning strikes me as very strange. I do hope all is well with her family and that there's the best possible reason for this fairly shocking news.
Oh, and: It's not my fault!"
You insignificant twit. If anyone tells you they read your work, they're lying to you. Get a real job.
ABC News:
In the weeks before Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin announced her resignation, she spoke privately with a range of prominent Republican officials -- including former Vice President Dick Cheney and former mayor Rudolph Giuliani.
... and that she is one of the boys.
She is going to be ooooh so disappointed.
if Sarah will have her lawyer sue Liz Trotter and Ed Rollins?
Who else, I wonder? You go, Sarah!
I think Rollins was saying she insulted other governors, not that he felt insulted.
Maybe it was when he said "I found her insulting to other governors?"
;-)
I also found her insulting to other governors -- as if any lame duck who would finish out their term is probably goofing off -- but I didn't feel personally insulted. (Well, maybe my intelligence was a little insulted... :))
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
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Looks like the palin lawyers get around...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I don't think I've ever seen Ysbad get deleted before.
You must have been VERY naughty!
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haha...
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
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they are
American thighs.
Are the stars out tonight?
I don't know if it's cloudy or bright
'Cause I only have thighs for you
The moon may be high
Maybe millions of people go by
But I only have thighs for you
I don't know if we're in a garden
Or on a crowded avenue
You are here so am I
Maybe millions of people go by
But they all disappear from view
And I only have thighs for you
(bridge)
I don't know if we're in a garden
Or on a crowded avenue
You are here so am I
Maybe millions of people go by
But they all disappear from view
And I only get thighs
Big bulging thighs
Great big thighs
For you
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
that a proposal?
;)
Just trying to keep the site monitor amused.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I was worrying there for a second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqG_txEAJOc&fe...
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but from time to time he speaks the truth. I have heard him criticize both Bush and Cheney on occasion.
WTF.
This pissed me off. Why in the fuck is CNN covering GOP candidates 3 years from now with all we have going one.
Eat shit, CNN.
Why do people in the media think they need to speculate about Sarah Palin's 2012 plans now? They talk because they are paid to talk, not because they have anything to say.
I saw the serial gambling and "black baby aborting" Bill Bennett try to spin this story this morning, and I was left confused. He said the callers to his radio show were in strong support of her, especially those callers from Alaska. But when Heidi Collins mentioned that she'd just interviewed an Alaska reporter who said that the majority of Alaska citizens were angry, Bennett said, "that's the reporters words."
What confused me is that, why does Bennett think he's more trustworthy than an actual reporter from Alaska. Why won't reporters ever challengers these rightwingers on their crap.
to the right wing level.
The whole Palin thing reminds me of one of Little Britain's "Mr Doggy" sketches. In the sketches, an obviously oddball Phyliss takes her dog for a walk and speaks to him. Suddenly Mr Doggy speaks back. He tells her to do bizarre things. She argues with him. Ultimately, she does bizarre things. Mr Doggy then declares the woman "one cray-zay beeyotch."
But is it really Mr Doggy who tells her to do these bizarre things? Anymore than the mainstream media is relentlessly trying to destroy little Sarah Palin?
Or is it the lady herself?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2vDVepPRnA&fe...
In a country of 330,000,000 people, how in the hell do idiots like George W. Bush and Sarah Palin get elected?
I really cannot wrap my mind around this issue.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Thank Diebold.
Just don't say fixed around Little Britain's Mr. Doggy.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"Policy left" you are in denial and I don't blame you . About 1/3 of the population is dumb as a box of rocks and are as ignorant as can be , it is truly frightening because these pea brains vote . Truly there should be a mandatory IQ test of some kind that must be passed as a minimum requirement before one can vote , this would eliminate the Republican party and we would all be much safer and the country much better off .
Palin very incoherent in articulating ? Glad you picked up on that Sherlock ! What a brilliant observation !
Palin is just a bedwetting, crybaby quitter.
and truly respect what he has to say. He is one of a very few Republicans who look at political matters with a reasonable, practical viewpoint rather than dogmatic b.s.
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