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The answer to that is a resounding: NO. It's a direct result of the Limbaugh/Savage/Hannity/FOX News infestation in our society. Howard brings up an Obama incident at one of his gatherings, but it has no equal justification to this discussion. As we've seen in video after video, the insane hatred toward Obama by McCain supporters is beyond the pale and the amount of falsehoods being spewed by McCain supporters is rather sad. And yes, McCain and Palin are helping to whip up this hatred for Obama because they trail in the polls. Calling Lee Atwater. And it doesn't matter if McCain tries to now calm down his base, the damage is already done and this is a big story.

The right wing blogosphere is in damage control mode. Check out Memeorandum on this push back against reality. The Malkinites lead the charge.

Kurtz: Lynn Sherr, as I said, I've gone to a lot of rallies where a lot of crazy things have been said. Why are the media this week pumping up this story about McCain and Palin's crowds as if it is their fault if there's a bit of ugliness that breaks out?

KURTZ: Roger Simon, I'm certainly not saying that what people say at these rallies, particularly if it's ugly stuff, shouldn't be covered. It's part of the story. But it seems that the press has kind of adopted this theme that McCain and Palin are stoking the anger.

ROGER SIMON, POLITICO.COM: Well, it may be that McCain and Palin are stoking the anger. It seems to me that John McCain is riding a tiger, and he's trying not to fall off that tiger and get eaten by it.

When your vice presidential running mate goes around the country saying Barack Obama is palling around with terrorists, and when you run ads that say, you know, he's a liar, he's not telling the truth about this unrepentant terrorist, and then you wonder why people in the crowd shout out "terrorist" when you mention the name Barack Obama, this anger is coming from somewhere. It is being ginned up by a campaign, and it is logical, I think, to assume that these people are only responding to what they have heard from the candidate's mouth. And it's fair game and it's, in fact, responsible for us to report how the crowds are reacting.

KURTZ: For example, Candy Crowley, I was in Indiana with Obama this week. And there was some nut job in the crowd who started screaming about Obama was going to bring about the new world order, and he was ejected from the scene and people booed. Hardly anybody reported that because, who cared? But it seems to me that in the case of McCain and Palin, we have decided that they are somehow responsible for this. And I just question whether that's fair.

Full transcript via CNN below the fold.

LYNN SHERR, AUTHOR, "OUTSIDE THE BOX": Well, I think it's a logical outcome, Howie, of having citizens become, if you will, citizen journalists. We're all looking for that authentic voice. We're all looking for, what's out there, what are the people saying? And I think the real issue is, how does the candidate respond?

We want to hear these voices; they are authentic voices, if they are. We want to know how the candidate responds, however, and I think Senator McCain's response the other day when the woman said that Obama was an Arab, and he immediately took the microphone away from her, I thought was an interesting indication of how he could be quick on his feet after letting all these other terrible things go by the week before.

Just, by the way, I happened to be listening to the Rush Limbaugh show. Somebody happened to get on the phone, turned out to be a Republican for Obama. Limbaugh was for the first time speechless.

I think we see in these people how they respond, and that's what we're looking for.

KURTZ: Roger Simon, I'm certainly not saying that what people say at these rallies, particularly if it's ugly stuff, shouldn't be covered. It's part of the story. But it seems that the press has kind of adopted this theme that McCain and Palin are stoking the anger.

ROGER SIMON, POLITICO.COM: Well, it may be that McCain and Palin are stoking the anger. It seems to me that John McCain is riding a tiger, and he's trying not to fall off that tiger and get eaten by it.

When your vice presidential running mate goes around the country saying Barack Obama is palling around with terrorists, and when you run ads that say, you know, he's a liar, he's not telling the truth about this unrepentant terrorist, and then you wonder why people in the crowd shout out "terrorist" when you mention the name Barack Obama, this anger is coming from somewhere. It is being ginned up by a campaign, and it is logical, I think, to assume that these people are only responding to what they have heard from the candidate's mouth. And it's fair game and it's, in fact, responsible for us to report how the crowds are reacting.

KURTZ: For example, Candy Crowley, I was in Indiana with Obama this week. And there was some nut job in the crowd who started screaming about Obama was going to bring about the new world order, and he was ejected from the scene and people booed. Hardly anybody reported that because, who cared? But it seems to me that in the case of McCain and Palin, we have decided that they are somehow responsible for this. And I just question whether that's fair.

CANDY CROWLEY, CNN SR. POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: I think it needs some context. I think, first of all, we need to know that all throughout this campaign, from the primaries on, there were lies and smears about Barack Obama on the Internet. There were people out there saying things about Barack Obama in Hillary Clinton's crowds. So, you know, it has been there all along. It's not something that just came up with John McCain.

Second of all, I think it behooves us to remember that it helps the Obama campaign to have these stories out there because it shows, you know, by osmosis McCain is intolerant. Is McCain, you know, over the top here?

It has nothing to do with -- because I agree here that there is some culpability, but it was also unclear to me because I don't cover McCain, because all I saw was the one report at the beginning about somebody in the crowd yelling "terrorist," and the author said it was unclear whether he was talking bout Ayers or Obama. Now, we saw the questions...

KURTZ: Right.

CROWLEY: ... at McCain's town hall meetings, but he answered those in the way that Lynn was talking about. So I'm unclear how big this is.

KURTZ: All right.

Let me -- does this ever happen to you, where the crowd turns on you?

SIMON: Oh, sure. Covering George Wallace.

I was at a rally in 1976, this was after Wallace had already been shot. And Wallace would put the press in the front rows and he would point to the press and say, these are the enemies, these are the people. And we went up to him afterwards because we were afraid to go outside and we said, "Why are you instigating?" And he said, "I don't instigate, I just lay down the hay where the goats can get it."

And that was George Wallace.

KURTZ: All right.

SIMON: And it was only Mary McGrory (ph) who saved us afterwards from the crowd because she engaged the crowd in calm conversation.

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ysbaddaden's picture

Did the media pump up the Nuremburg rallies?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

John Amato's picture

Sorry...

Kurtz pulled the same crap with Malkin's crusade against Graeme Frost. He whitewashed it, as he consistently does with hateful right-wing rhetoric. He pretends it doesn't exist, or is fringe, or minimizes it, or pretends that 'both sides do it,' or all of the above.

Mr. Squirrel's picture

At least it appears Mr. Simon from Politico was unbiased enough to speak some truth on this subject. Good for him for presenting the case for why we shouldn't be ignoring the loonies shouting at the McCain rallies. It seems amazing that Kurtz suggested otherwise (despite the incongruous denial).

Old Billy's picture

Why is Howard Kurtz carrying water for McCain/Palin?

Good for Simon for calling a spade a spade - "Well it may be that McCain and Palin are stoking the anger." Perfect.

And nice to tie them to George Wallace. "I just lay down the hay where the goats can get it." And that shows how much respect the Republicans have for their base too.

paul's picture

thanks a lot for the clip

the thing that disturbs me the most about kurtz's attempt to make light of the story is his attempt to contextualize the episodes by way of history, as if what transpired in the past make it alright today...

I saw similar type of trivialization on the Sunday shows, including Cookie Roberts on ABC...

David Hill's picture

if he can give 7-8 examples on video of obama supporters saying that theyre afraid of mccain (not his policies, but of the man himself), or saying that mccain should die, or that kind of extremism (backing it up with vids of pundits saying approximately the same thing is optional), then the comparison is valid....

but the mccain supporter saying that obama is scary because he's a muslim/arab gets applauded and an obama supporter saying that he's going to bring about the New World Order gets kicked out....

Mr. Squirrel's picture

Yeah, how does an anti-Obama heckler causing a disturbance against Obama at one of his rallies, in any way compare with these nuts who are pro-McCain saying similar things and worse at McCain rallies, without being rebuked or disowned on the spot?

If Obama mentioned McCain and then an Obama supporter screamed, "Kill him" or "terrorist" or some such, and Obama let it slide, then that would be comparable.

DemoChristian's picture

As has become the case too often of late the wrong question is being asked.

Why was it up to freelancers and bloggers to break the story in the first place?

Political rallies where the opposing candidate is labelled and libelled as a Terrorist"? Rallies where the opposition is threatened with death and beheading?

This should have been front page, lead the newscast type news.

It doesn't really matter if McCain/Palin/RNC are stoking these reactions (we know that they are and they know that they are). The first duty of the press should be to report it, factually and prominently.

The video media has followed Palin around as if she were one of the Spears Sisiters. I find it impossible to believe that they didn't notice the hate spewing. But they reported Palin's talking points and media bashing while a real story (of national significance)got buried.

WHY?

Anonymous's picture

just like Carville, kkkurtz is married to the enemy and actually works for them. find out who his wife is and who she works for and you have your answer.

moondancer 's picture

Kurtz is slipping...he just couldn't sell the McCain bullshit. Maybe next time jerkoff.

Anonymous's picture

purged my information and won't let me enter anything

Tom Wood's picture

Kurtz' example about the guy at the Obama rally screaming against Obama actually proves the narrative about McCain-Palin stoking the fires: McCain supporters are so angry they even go into Obama rallies to attack Obama. And Obama is fair enough to have open rallies that allow McCain people in.

ElleninBigD's picture

Candy Crowley, of all people, shouldn't be allowed to report on politics at all. She's one of the ones who went after Gore in 2000. Ridiculed his clothes, "I invented the internet," the Love Story crap. She needs to go work for the National Equirer, or Star or whatever. But she sure shouldn't be given any credence as a "journalist."

David Ehrenstein's picture

LEAVE US NOT FORGET THAT HOWARD KURTZ IS MARRIED TO A MAJOR REPUBLICAN OPERATIVE NAMED SHERI ANNIS.

TomRyan4Scranton's picture

Craziest McCain/Palin Cartoon you'll ever see! @

http://www.youtube.com/tomryanfilms

laura d's picture

I believe Obama is a traitor:

#1. Ayers (attempting to diminish the relationship doesn't work - Obama endorsed a book by Ayers - the relationshp is greater than stated.) US terrorist (Obama like him is a Socialist)

#2. Odinga (Obama campaigned for Muslim Socialist who contracted to institute Islamic law as candidate for President in Kenya) Islamic Socialist. (Obama like him is a Socialist)

#3. ACORN (Obama has supported an organization nad has personal association with ACORN engaging in voter fraud to overthrow democratic freedom in election process) Overthrow of democratic systems by a Socialist candidate (Obama is a Socialist - contempt for democratic process evidenced in ACORN voter fraud - he's responsible by contribution and association)

#4. Member of NP Socialist party in the US. Obama shows himself to be a person who ideologically seeks the overthrow of democracy and lacks the values of democracy (also, ahs a Socialist 20 year church affiliation).

I see a threat to democracy by a radical left Socialist who does not advance the cause of democracy and freedom in the US and abroad but rather allies himself with Socialism and the overthrow of the US democratic government.

In all good conscience, I could shout, "Traitor! Traitor! Traitor!" whenever Obama's name was mentioned.

I see nothing wrong with it. It's a reasonable response to his character, associations, and actions... and isn't "hate".

"Hate" is what a Socialist bears within him towards the United STates government in seeking to overthrow it, seeking to advance Socialism at home and abroad... that person HATES America.

"Traitor! Traitor! Traitor!"... I don't think you can make me feel "guilty" for saying what I believe to be the truth in a free exercise of my speech and right to protest.

Obama has taken away those rights, yet, has he?? He hasn't yet created his "dream" of a Socialist state in the US, yet, has he??

I think it's a free country still. I think I"ll protest and join my voice with those who protest, "Traitor! Traitor! Traitor!"... Obama.

Nicole Belle's picture

You keep saying that word.

I do not think it means what you think it means.

Ralph B's picture

That is why you fail. Obama '08!

Alvin's picture

"HOO! HOOHOO! HOOHOO!" she said, and then Elmer Fudd shot her in the face.

me's picture

Here's an account of the discussion as it took place on parallel earth #6738.

privatechaos's picture

Laura, you are obviously misled about the facts. ACORN flagged all the dubious registration forms and reported them. That is WHY we know about them. The right-wing wackos are simply reporting the truth in a completely distorted and purposely opposite manner, in order to further their agenda of obfuscation.

Get educated. Or get off the bus.

Rachel's picture

Actually, the heckler at the Indianapolis rally was quickly drowned out with chants of "Obama! Obama!" Obama immediately stopped the distraction and reminded everyone that the man was entitled to his opinion, and that was the wonderful thing about Democracy. Can't imagine how Kurtz missed this part, since Obama was speaking to the crowd on the public address system.

Rico's picture

Now let's be charitable toward Laura d. Even the dim and ignorant should have the opportunity to speak out in our glorious democracy. Speaking of which....
You believe that Mr. Obama is out to destroy our democracy? Have you not read a newspaper or magazine in the last eight years? Tell us the truth now, you only watch Fox news, huh?

Obama has hardly been in a position to undermine our democracy in any substantial way. Bush has however and need we rehash the action of the CIA?, the NSA?, the justice dept.?, the Pentagon? Do we need to review the signing statements?, the secrecy?, the vice president that believes he is the fourth branch of government? The ponzi scheme that is Wall St.? The contemptuous lies about Iraq? The incompetent conduct of operations in Afghanistan?, and all the other things they've done to bolster our democracy for eight years? Do I need to go on?

I have many misgivings about Obama. Mostly that he's too far to the right. An America more to the left than what we have now is just what we need after two terms of crypto-fascism from cheney-bush. Does that make you want to come to my house and cut off my head?

Mnemosyne's picture

Did the media pump up the Nuremburg rallies?

Oh, hells yeah.

Der Sturmer

the Jew Suss

And those are just the two off the top of my head. Hell, The Triumph of the Will was made to keep propagandizing the Nuremburg rallies even after they were over.

More recently, radio and print media was used to whip up the genocide in Rwanda.

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