Child stalking Michelle Malkin defends attacking 11-year-old girl: "No Shame, No How"
(h/t Heather)
Malkin once again proves that there's nothing so low that she won't do it. You may remember that she attacked 12-year-old Graeme Frost over the SCHIP vote and posted personal information about his family. Well, now she's lowering the bar and attacking an 11-year-old girl. (Malkin link here)
At least she's an equal-opportunity smear artist. I know this happened a few days ago, but I had to address it. Bob Cesca covered it with his post: Malkin and Fox News Are Stalking Children Again
It's a brand new conspiracy involving President Obama and an 11-year-old girl. The plot? To ask a question at a town hall meeting.
Scary. Run for your lives and all that.
Rewind to Tuesday afternoon when an 11-year-old girl asked President Obama a question about the "mean things" she observed on various protest signs outside. Malkin and other wingnuts swooped into action, investigating and exposing the girl's parents as -- shock, horror! -- supporters of the president. The girl's parents even donated some money and volunteered on the campaign.
Mind blowing, I know. It's like the Donald Sutherland scene in JFK.
But considering that there were literally millions of volunteers associated with the president's campaign, and considering that tickets for the event were available online where millions of supporters of the president typically hang out, it stands to reason that a few actual, you know, supporters would manage to acquire tickets.
Yet beyond this earth-shattering information uncovered by Malkin that Obama supporters attended an Obama event, there isn't any evidence whatsoever that the 11-year-old girl was coached or scripted by the White House. None. And, it goes without saying that Malkin and Fox News Channel are entirely ignorant of the fact that similar Bush events were revealed to be literally and entirely staged and scripted with attendees having to sign loyalty oaths.
Sean Hannity had Malkin on his Fox News show to try and justify her actions. I mean it's sickening. And yet networks like NBC put her on the TODAY show as if she's a credible person.
Malkin: The lie about the astroturfing is very important and I spent a lot of time today on my own blog talking about these Obamacare human stage props that OFA and HCAN have put forth. And yesterday in Portsmouth we saw it with that little girl who's mom happened to be a very invested and close ally of the Obama administration....
The lie is that she denies any astroturfing has been taking place at the town halls. I won't even post the information because it's been so heavily covered, but the words "truth and "lie" are interchangeable with Michelle so why bother giving her evidence when she clearly knows about it.
Wasn't Malkin's infamous, and creepy, 2007 Baltimore drive-by* bad enough? I guess not, because now Malkin's zeroing in on a young Massachusetts school girl. Why? Because she got to ask president Obama a question at a town hall forum. Bad idea! (She was an "in-the-tank questioner.") The girl may as well have painted a bull's eye on her back because Malkin and her online detective pals are takin' that kid down!!
Stay classy, Michelle.
Next up, Malkin steals a toddler's pacifier because his parents live in San Francisco and had an Obama bumper sticker. "It's just another cry baby socialist!"
I have no qualms calling a bitch a bitch, or a big fucking bitch.
I thought those were urban legends....
But seriously...yeah...malkin is the alpha bitch.
then I realized what Carpenter might have meant and then I thought of an awful quip and I'm not going to tell you what I thought.
now I'm dyin to know!
the hammers are not in boxes, and I will excuse your otherwise poor linguistic choices.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
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We have no bananas!
how to use their condoms?
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Malkin's parents didn't use a condom. Then we'd be spared Stalkin Malkin and her psychotic ways.
wingnut.
just sayin....
I can't read minds I can only anticipate moves
a wingnut too sometimes.
Most of your posts are saturated with pointless,"all is lost" negativity. Providing a solution every now and again might be beneficial.
Been missin ya man!
Where ya been lately?
This time of year we try and get as many juvenile offenders back in school as possible. I'll be talking to ya soon.
Respect to you.
what kind of alternant universe do these ppl live in? i dont want to sound too "1984" but to say the left/dems are the ones doing the bullying? thats completely bat shit krazy.
I could not have said it better. The right-wing never seems to run low on idiots. I would like to see the lot have to do their shows with a polygraph on. Those who fail can get 6 months to life, for attempting to deceive the American People. Those who pass must get checked into a special ward at Bellevue. They stay until whatever mental malaise is effecting them is cured, (or exorcised for the right-wing christians).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Cu3sUKc7w&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I remember the first time I saw Michelle Malkin. Oooh, I got so hot, I wanted her so bad. A hot, steamy, passionate night had consumed my mind, and completely took over this horny male body of mine.
Then, she opened her mouth.
Ahh, damn!! There goes the fantasy.
I never felt the same again. Why does a pretty woman like her have to be so nutty, so bitchy and so evil all the time?
WHAT DA FUCK HAPPENED TO HER???
hate herself so much?
do you want to be like one of them regular people or do you want money and success?
I think it's the fact that she got where she was today by gobbling old republicans in the back of the convention centers that eats away at her inside.
And by eats away, I mean balls in her mouth.
'nuff said
there will be no solutions at this particular level because it is an endless loop.
No reason not to.
his own party now wants him booted from the party for lying about the brit nh system
..hate children so much?
Because they usually don't buy any of the BS they spread nor any of the products they sell.
Advertisers - BEWARE! There is a movement in this country now to BOYCOTT faux advertisers (beck has lost 20 advertisers). Do you advertise on faux? I will stop buying your products or using your services! Advertisers with malkin? I would think you would want to reach people not troglodytes. (My apologies to all the troglodytes but face it troggo's, you don't have anything to buy anything with anyway!)
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
I see the liberal smear machine has jumped into action against poor, defenseless Malkin. Why are you trying to deny her rights?
Pearl clutching now out of the way, can I just say our resident screen grab genius has the uncanny knack for making Malkin look like those inflatable sex dolls.
...I mean, what I'm told those inflatable sex dolls look like.
doing so willingly . . Malkin's no exception.
mine look like sheep.
you need to buy yourself a new one then... it can look like crazy-eyes Malkin!
I kissed a squirrel and I liked it.
is a scam don't you?
but it would cost me $37.50 in lost Google cash to do so.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
"No Shame, No How"
No Shame, No Ho."
Wassamatter grimalkin, 11 girl is hotter than you in her cheerleader outfit?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
..it's no way to start a Tuesday.
So that's what it sounds like when two shit bags talk to each other.
Generally speaking I don't trust anyone making over 150K a year.
u got that right!
"This is the first time, though, American citizens are being attacked by a party." when interviewing a town hall talking points spewing wingnut protester.
once again proving that in wingnut world hypocrisy and irony do not exist.
Cindy Sheehan
9-11 Widows
Anyone opposing boosh for any reason?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
in the early days of her encampment outside Bush's Crawford compound. A solitary person represented the counter-protest on the day I was there (btw, Anderson Cooper was there that day, too), and I encouraged a young man her age to take her some water. He stood with her and chatted for a while, then reported back that she very much appreciated the water. She was very quiet and seemed disconcerted that we would help her (she was standing in the full sun with no hat or any kind of protection). I remember thinking how sad that she would be so discomfited by our thoughtfulness.
During Ms. Sheehan's tenure in Crawford, Bushbots escalated their counter-protests, mowing down the memorial to our dead soldiers, and physically threatening and harassing Ms. Sheehan and her supporters. Of all the challenges of that encampment--heat, lack of water, lack of showers and toilets, fire ants, sweat bees--I would wager that anyone who stayed there would agree that the Bushies were the worst threat they had to face.
Setting up little kids as targets is pretty low even for the Malkin. Hey Michelle, pick on someone your own size. Messing with little kids' lives is not what grown ups do.
And no there is no truth in the idea that the little girl is a Muslim or was born in Kenya so move along, nothing to see here. Go back to doing cheerleading videos in your back yard.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
how come i'm not cheerful when I see or hear her?
Michelle Malkin cheer
one bit.
It is a FACT that there is a division in this nation that WILL NOT HEAL. It is not only a political separation, but a philosophical & ethical separation as well. I love C&L, but face it folks, this uncovering of right-wing scoundrels has been ongoing now for years and years, and in spite of blatant evidence of right-wing corruptions and under-handed blind partisanship, it continues. I suppose it is time for a split (in my opinion). I seriously do not think these differences can be reconciled. The right-wing are capitalistic warmongers who justify their atrocities tooth and nail as "defending America" or to defend their greed they call it "fighting socialism". I cannot think of a solution. Having one more GOP as president will certainly spell the end of this nation and quite possibly ignite a civil war.
. . . Yip
The problem is, the cure is worse than the disease.
But don't worry, one day the French people will rise up en masse and the reign of Louis the 16th will come to a bitter end.
I don't know if we'd ever really recover from something like that, however. I'm not a gloom and doom sort of person, but I see history repeating itself. Don't get me wrong, I'm not worried about those who have it coming. I'm heartbroken at the idea that so many people would have to suffer if history repeats itself again.
You are correct, however. There is a moral, ethical, and ideological split that grows only more polarized at the ends. Middle America is disappearing as sides are being taken. In my (recent) younger years I considered myself to be a Moderate with (lower case C) conservative fiscal leanings but (lower case L) liberal social ideals. I now see myself as weakly Moderate with heavy Socialist, Progressive Liberal, and Populist leans and beliefs. My wife says I'm not as Moderate as I think I am, and I'm sure she's correct on this. The past month has forced me to consider no longer self-identifying as Moderate. If I can be moved away from the Center then I know others can be, and have been. My life-long Conservative father is more liberal now than I've ever seen him. Instead of being staunchly Conservative he'd best be described as Mild to Moderate. For a man of 82, that's impressive.
I would like to believe that our system has room to resolve this without violence, rebellion, or revolution. I believe in the principles that this country was founded on and I believe that we have a great model for self-governance. What concerns me is that the Right has become so fascist that there is only one way to deal with them. Rationality and reason has left the leadership of the party and their mouthpieces are spouting their evil at every moment they get the chance. Free speech should be protected, but I disagree with the Supreme Court that Hate Speech ought to be protected all the time. I don't have a solution to resolving that.
I don't like the Nazi card being played, and I'm trying to avoid using it. But I see some very serious common behaviors between the Conservative Movement and their Republican political party and what happened with fascism in Germany, Italy, and Spain. The racial politics of the Nazis don't seem to apply to the Republicans but there is definitely a racial bigotry ensconced in the mainline party membership.
Democracy is the road to socialism. ~ Karl Marx
"The racial politics of the Nazis don't seem to apply to the Republicans but there is definitely a racial bigotry ensconced in the mainline party membership." As soon as they gin up enough noise from nitwits about this, their racist policies will emerge. They are absolutely there, as proven by Buchanan alone. If they were not there, you would think someone on their side would say so. Never happens unless some one calls them out, then they just vaguely deny any allegation. No one from their side ever denies this hatred proactively. They are Nazis. That is why Limbo goes on and on about the Dems being Nazis. He is intent on muddying the pool, and if he can define the term with his lies, those who take schooling from him will not realize who they are really believing in.
Oh, I completely agree with you on this. I'm just saying that there are still significant enough differences between the Nazis and Republicans to eschew the use of the Nazi Card. Even if the racism were blatant we'd be better of labeling them as Corporate Fascists like those that opposed FDR. The Nazis were the National Socialist German Workers Party. They were a mix of radical Left and Right-wing political ideas. The Republican party are purely Right-wing fascists. It's worth noting that even historical fascism was opposed to Capitalism run amok. Hence why I call them Corporate Fascists. They have all the elements, attitudes, political tactics, and behaviors of fascism but are missing many of the key historical qualities regarding economics.
What we see in Republican fascism is the belief that unrestrained capitalism is the best economic policy in addition to theocratic agendas that would have made Hitler and Mussolini scratch their heads. Most of the core tenets are their, but the economics and theocratic beliefs are a new addition. It makes using "fascism" even harder as it's such a muddled word.
What we really ought to be doing is moving away from these meaningless and politically loaded terms and using proper labels such as totalitarian, despotic, and authoritarian. What I fear is the day when Republicanism is universally equatable with Nazism in more than just rhetoric. Until then, I guess we're just left with the best, if not most accurate, term (as I see it) of "Corporate Fascism."
Democracy is the road to socialism. ~ Karl Marx
The "bourbon" republicans, to use Garrison Keillor's term, are not really religious. They cultivate fundamentalists, especially, to use as bait in their quest for domination. They, like C Streeters, think of Jesus as a businessman, and themselves not only obligated by Jesus to do anything they want to assume absolute power over everything, but entitled to do so. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is their philosophy. Research it, if you doubt it.
while you're doing your research, see if you can tour one of their mega-churches. The blatant opulence should be a mega-clue.
Democracy is the road to socialism. ~ Karl Marx
Which one, you or the church?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Oops. Smarted off and said something I shouldn't have. Drat.
Democracy is the road to socialism. ~ Karl Marx
exactly did you say in response to my post? Can you clean it up so it won't get deleted?
I just moved out of Georgia after living there for 15 years. I watched the hyper-religious Republican theocrat develop from a small fringe into the common attitude. I can tell you without question that the rank and file believe it utterly and completely. The people they voted into office either believed it or used it as a weapon. At the very top it is a different kind of fundamentalism that only some of them believe. It is about controlling people but it is also about what it looks like. There is a very good book on this called American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America. It's not a total put on and is very much believed in by far too many of them. It used to be that Republicans used the Religious Right and then gave them nothing. This is not the case now.
The Family is only just now getting play in the news because of chance and they have a very odd cult religion. They influence an elite group and this is, without doubt, a very bad thing. But the evangelical fundamentalist movement is the faith of the rank and file and can not be disregarded. Take a look at the funding of discriminatory religious programs and churches under the guise of helping charities that occurred under Bush. Prior to his Executive Order these places could never receive money from the government because of their programs and goals. Now they receive the lion's share of the money for charities.
Because I abandoned the nonsense that was the Christian Church a long time ago I have been very cautious of what they do and I spend a good deal of time keeping up to date on it. Believe me, I know very well what these people are up to and the different nuances that exist. They pose a very big threat to this country and they get away with it Scot free because they operate under the banner of religion. It is just not acceptable to question or denounce religion in this country. A damn shame, as there just isn't anything there worth keeping.
Democracy is the road to socialism. ~ Karl Marx
Trying to dream up ways to "rake in money"
I'll let you know if I invent something like a Amazing Automoney Rakerinner.
As seen in your TV
... so what should we make of the children who routinely show up at these protests holding signs protesting those filthy liberal policies?
Are their parents also in the bag for the government or corporate interests?
right now and laugh laugh laughs are filling the air like candy bars.
The "turnabout is fair play" doctrine is not acceptable to them. All the more reason to use it. I do hope the "war of words" is fully on. I began my own campaign to call out misinformed and lying writers of letters to the editors in my local newspapers. That at least gives some people an alternative point of view to contemplate. Take advantage of the newspaper's weakness now, in that they are losing readers. A little controversy will get them what they need, so they are likely to print what you write. No canned 'bot answers from them.
Meanwhile the reichwing ignore the fact that a full grown 36 year old woman, whose a spokesman for the lying teabaggers, is not just a member of the group but an organizer for beck.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
You just have to look at the fire in her eyes to see one sick individual. She is the most crazed of all the crazies! Hate is eating her up.
ljmel
The same
People who make dramatic exits and then keep coming back... priceless.
Malkin seems to think that those who disagree with her are--first and foremost--stupid. One only has to watch her in action to get that. She's an arrogant pseudo-intellectual, riding on the frayed coattails of her husband's influence.
this brown asian woman, if she wasnt in so much denial, and semi famous to the reichwing, would never be welcome in the GOP world. they would consider her many things but not one of them.... she has to be a very mentally sick woman, and prone to projection. if she could only hear what the rightwing really says about her, she might wake up from her nightmare........... sad...........
She is the token "not white" person.
Oh...I'm sure she's very popular with GOP bigwigs.
She's got the right look...and brings her own diaper bag.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
That we all did a fair amount of bitching about the plants that W had in his "audiences" the roles are just reversed now, and rightly so IMHO. Malkin isn't doing anything that a majority of people here didn't do. *Scuse me while I put on My fire proof underware*
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QSE32
George W. Bush had pre-screened, favorable audiences and, during the 2004 campaign, required rally attendees to effectively sign a 'loyalty oath.'
Malkin is excoriating a child who asked a sensible question about the hateful language being used, and instead of addressing the subject, accuses her of being a political tool for Obama.
Were there actual stories about that?!?
"bush loyalty oath"
Loyalty oath, was only at his election and re election campaigns not that that makes it ok BUT plants are always at EVERY politicians speeches.
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QSE32
This makes a child's legitimate question about the anger and behavior of healthcare reform opponents invalid?
I think that QSE32 might be Cokie Roberts!
THis is why we suck as a political party! Cause anyone that disagrees with you slightly you resort ro ad hominems and dice them into the ANTI category Repubs just STFU and align themselves together no matter what
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QSE32
"But the Democrats"
I said "we" Pay attention.
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QSE32
I merely pointed out that this kinda B.S. goes on on both sides
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QSE32
you are talking to yourself?
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
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That's where the "Reply" button put the response.
I tend to dislike the idea that it's okay to attack a CHILD.
It is NEVER justifiable for adults to attack CHILDREN.
Especially using the clout of major media outlets.
Guess that makes me a nazi.
I'm leaving now for a while so you can really pull out the Ad hominems and non sequitors and talk about how republican I am. Which I'm not! the middle just looks far right to you because you are so way off in left field. THe same way THe middle Looks way off in Left Field TO the nut bags in Right Field.
Guess I got no group :-(
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QSE32
Actually we're talking about political attacks on an 11 year old girl which is exactly on topic while you've been off on non sequiturs and tu quoques.
And so far I haven't seen any ad hominems directed your way, whereas you've been employeing it's over-aching concept the argument ad reductio constantly against this site.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Leaving Iraq, reigning in corporations and Wall Street, taxing the rich, health care public option: These are all things supported by an overwhelming majority of Americans.
Just shows how concentrating 50% of the wealth in the hands of a few evil fuckers; along with a MSM monopoly, can totally subvert democracy.
You are either ignorant of what's going on when you equate wingnuts with lefties, or you have been brainwashed by the 24/7 bullshit carpet bombing the republican party exposes the american people too on a yearly basis.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Both sides should now use their children as mouth pieces, that way no commentary can be issued about what was said
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QSE32
If it's wrong, then both sides are wrong to do so.
That still doesn't answer why it's okay to publicly denounce a child for asking a question. An adult who votes, who pays taxes, or who works for a corporation that profits from specific policies ... yes, I can see being upset.
A child?
THe children should be left home with the babysitter...But that's not really the point of this post now is it?
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QSE32
Actually it is:
"Child stalker Michelle Malkin defends attacking 11-year-old girl: 'No Shame, No How'"
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
My point was and still is:
Some of the people on this site have had no problems trash talking/Attacking (if you will) Pro W kids that are/were pawns on the other side.
now, for you to come around and denounce it, when you did not do so earlier, because it was in your favor, does not make this tu quoques. Although, I could see why you would not say anything, the retarded left is just as stupid as the retarded right.
edit meaning that you'd get screached at not that you are stupid!
I haven't levied anything against this site that wasn't called for. I'm trying to help it maintain some sense of ethics as it sometimes tries to blindly march off a cliff to the left in the exact same fashion that the right does.
I like many of the blogs and opinions here but other times they are just so nutty off the wall(so much so that art bell would laugh) that I can't help but say something. For you to blindly follow degrades your ability to think man!
As far as specific ad hominems, I've been called "cokie roberts" and a "bush apologist." As far as non sequiturs, some assanine person tried to lump W being a murderer in with having plants at a speech.
Don't get me wrong I identify with the left and pretty much not at all with the right, but it's "discussions" like these, and the odd blog/story on this site that are flat out embarrassing
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QSE32
CONCERN!
So it's okay for adults to attack kids! Hooray!
Does this mean that you are NOT Cokie Roberts?
Are you Gretchen Carlson?
Civics lessons. Only for those who have thinking parents.
Actually it was any and all public appearances where he took questions.
People were hauled out for little more than wearing t-shirts with give peace a chance on it.
Protesters were herded into Orwellian "Free Speech Zones."
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"Malkin is excoriating a child who asked a sensible question about the hateful language being used, and instead of addressing the subject, accuses her of being a political tool for Obama."
And we've done the same to plants from the otherside, to people that the otherside would call "a sensible question" asker.
this just seems to be a non story to me
Late,
QSE32
CHILD. A minor. Someone who does not vote and does not pay taxes.
Do you think it's acceptable, therefore, that your children be publicly denounced on the basis of your political affiliations and contributions?
CHILD. A minor. Someone who does not vote and does not pay taxes shouldn't parrot your views, or be set up in a way to publicly parrot your views
How many people here Complain about the little kids holding the Obama is a nazi signs? it's not the kids that think that its the parents but the kids still get spoken about!
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QSE32
you're not driving the train. Why do you include yourself here as if you are one of those who offend you so much? Your use of the term "we've" indicates that you are softening you criticism. I know, because I have done it and been called out on it. Why don't you come right out with it.
Sorry I don't see everything that's said here as the gospel. I didn't know that means I'm not allowed.
I mused earlier that the dems are pretty much a large party diced into individual sections because everybody is bickering at each other over trivial bullshit basically calling each other "the enemy." It's a wonder a dem even got in office with all of this high school clique bullshit that goes within our party.
Yeah I disagree with some of the stuff said here but I'd like to think I'm respectful in my disagreements. Unlike the claws that come out for daring not to be part of the group think. It's just sad.
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QSE32
Like I always say, you are entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong. It's what I say to get people to stop trying to bang me in the head with a rock. How Rovian to just keep repeating the same discredited and disbelieved points.
"How Rovian to just keep repeating the same discredited and disbelieved points."
As you are doing right now ;-)
Irony meet savanah. Savanah, Irony. Now that you're acquainted I'm sure you'll be fast friends.
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QSE32
The trouble is, these "non-stories" have a way of staying in the forefront while real matters of consequence are ignored.
Thank-you "Me so Crazy" Michelle for the latest distraction.
I thought you were leaving...
I had other stuff to do.
how very W of most! If you're not completely with me you must be against me so I don't care about anything you have to say! Lalalalalalalala not listening!
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QSE32
Great analogy...apologist.
and plants in a crowd are 2 different subjects. wonderful link there aristotle!
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QSE32
Obviously you don't see the point is, what message is being communicated by the oppositional plants in crowds? One: it's not truly spontaneous or grass roots level, and two: it's not just any political opposition, but the grounds themselves for the opposition's accusations between specific and the specious.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I'm talking about people like guckert, and other "real" W apologists that would lob softballs to W.
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QSE32
Than you should say so upfront, that poor debate structure.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
You'll see it says W had plants. NOT the plants that W sends
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QSE32
than guns. And they help keep down global warming gasses.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Imagine someone bringing and distributing poison ivy garlands to those teabaggers. Wait a minute..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kh555NjxnU
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Which one?:
http://www.comicbookhotties.com/images/poison...
Or
http://imovies4you.com/wp-content/uploads/200...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
About time.
so, do you think two wrongs make a right, as well?
So,If it's about time, then you know you're being hypocritical?
If it's wrong for them(which it is) then it's wrong for us too!
where does it end?
How does someone tell the difference in the sides if both sides are engaging in crap?
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QSE32
I have to back you on this one, Q. Wrong is wrong, no matter who is doing it. I try to avoid using slur terms (not always successfully when my ire is up) when speaking about politics because it doesn't enhance, but rather detracts, from the point I'm trying to make. It's not that I don't get angry as Hell and want to hurl spurious invectives, because I do. It's that the damage to my point isn't worth the cost of venting my frustration.
When Bush was in office it was easy to take the moral high ground. There was just so much to work with. When Newt ran the House, there was so much to be outraged about. Now that the Dems are in charge, there is likely just as much but Liberals are less likely to see it because of the nature of human bias. The reality is that no one has the back of the American People. Some are just more blatant about it, like the Republicans and the Libertarians.
The moral high ground can be claimed easily. It can only be maintained with consistent correct action. Hypocritical behavior is going to happen, but seeing it for what it is and repudiating it is required to maintain moral accuracy. None the less, it doesn't seem to matter what is right and what is wrong. We live in a era where the only thing that matters is winning, being in power, and staying there and damn anyone who wants you to be consistently right and moral while you're there.
Democracy is the road to socialism. ~ Karl Marx
It's not that I don't get angry as Hell and want to hurl spurious invectives, because I do. It's that the damage to my point isn't worth the cost of venting my frustration
and that's all I'm saying. I guess I wouldn't get so morally high if it was just regulated to the comment sections but when it's a featured Blog post i guess it bugs me because it seems like it's being distorted on purpose, which sucks cause we're already on the same team, no need for dishonesty or pettiness to flame the base. there are plenty of real issues and real problems with out going for the yellow journalism aspect of opinion or blog
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Oh, there is definitely a place for yellow journalism in blog sites. There is also use for stories like this. When you want to get the choir worked up you take something like this an rile them up. You use it to reinforce your position that "they" are vile criminals and that rage you feel towards them is not only well placed, but justified.
Stories like this fulfill the first part of the site's name. Malkin is, without question, a vile, putrescent whore whose very existence worsens us all as a species. These dreadful tactics expose the moral character of Republican Fascism and it is good to be aware of them. It reminds us what we are working against.
None the less, it is far less important than many other things and it's a damn shame that it drives a wedge between those of us who want to see progress occur. What bothers me most is the hypocrisy demonstrated by those who have said horrifying things about the children of Republican foot soldiers. It's the same fetid poison, regardless of where it comes from. I wish people would learn that. If it's wrong for them to do, then it's wrong for us to do. But, winning is all that matters... right?
Democracy is the road to socialism. ~ Karl Marx
No, I don't have to admit that 'the roles are just reversed now, and rightly so"!! While I despair that ANY of us fall prey to the bipartisan red herrings routinely promulgated by the Corporatists (who are increasingly ecstatic about how easily they've deflected our attention from the real issues), I see a distinct difference in how the extreme right supports their position.
Perhaps if you focused your energy on promoting communication and teamwork, you wouldn't feel the need to wear your fireproof underwear...
Corporatists (who are increasingly ecstatic about how easily they've deflected our attention from the real issues),
You mean like wasting bandwidth for stories of wrong doing that have literally been done by both sides, but some how when they do it it's worse? yea I agree.
Perhaps if you focused your energy on promoting communication and teamwork, you wouldn't feel the need to wear your fireproof underwear
That's what I thought I was doing, but instead of communication I get flamed. No understanding (or intentionally misinterpreting -although, I hope not-) what was written so if there is a communication breakdown I will apologize if it's me, but seeing as how I've been polite (aside from aristotle remark), I've been defending myself, since I wrote it, from all kinds of anger rather having a discussion.
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Coulter is still the Alpha Bitch. Malkin is and always will be a Beta Child
..all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or write. Besides, they wear black, which is such a beastly colour. I'm so glad I'm a Beta. Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm really awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They...
I am to the point where this health care "debate" is almost to depressing to stand. On one side you have a relatively meek half way measure that is only a baby step toward what this country really needs. You have a huge amount of lobby money going into a smear campaign that is not cleaver in the least. They shout about death panels and Nazi comparisons that anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see is just plain lies. But the worse part is millions and millions of American citizens are buying it. Lock stock and barrel. People like Limbaugh, Coulter, Beck, Malkin, and Hannity are wildly popular and are being listened to. I am at the point where I want to throw up my hands and give up. Are Americans are just way to stupid to survive? Almost.
Yes. Stupid wins. It's like entropy. All of the stars will go dark and cold, and the whole of human achievement will be forgotten, nothing but dust and debris.
do not understand this and let stupid win, this will be the tone of our discourse on every issue form now on.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Something to at least think about.
why are you surprised that malkin appeared on NBC?
the corporate water carriers are your enemy.
they don't give a shit about you and your ideals.
another thing, if you goddam supposed liberals haven't learned who the enemy is by now you aint ever gonna learn.
no wonder progressives are useless at affecting change and so easily used by the lying liars.
Of course it's unacceptable for Malkin to be giving out personal information, but it's just as stomach churning seeing people use their children in that manner.
Training them in political participation
Getting a chance to talk to the president, albeit briefly?
Oh horrors!
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Would your feelings be the same had it been a young child of southern conservative upbringing asking Obama why he wants to turn the USA into a socialist country?
As long as it's not delivered with the bile of the teabaggers.
Obama would probably explain just what Socialism is and isn't, about petitioning the government for redress of grievances, and the Social Contract, and turn it into a learning opportunity.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
given that we are NOT a child-centric society.
parents were using her. They were trying to teach her to participate in this alleged democracy, and she also has a wonderful memory of being called on by the President of the US and allowed to ask a question. A good question. Well, she would have had a wonderful memory if not for the cypher Malkin. That the Malkin part of it gets any legs at all by the MSM is to give her disgusting drivel credence. I am shocked that that happened. Shocked, I tell you. We should be polite, and just ignore her behavior. Let's not lower ourselves to her level. Do not fight back. That behavior is or should be beneath us. We are better than that.
Michelle Malkin looks like a child herself. I'm so tired of these morally bankrupt wrong-wingers and the corrupt corporate media that gives them undue attention. When we had a liberal media back in the 70's and 80's these fringe people were safely in the shadows, man I miss those days.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
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Those corporate advertisers are defending decency by putting the loot in Rupert's right hand instead of the left hand?
Okay, Wal Mart is paying Hammity for the public service of letting Malkin use the national media stalk an 11 year old girl.
Being eleven years old is daunting enough as it is - with all the changes beginning to happen.
This. Just. Shouldn't. Happen.
This is unspeakably vile.
grimalkin was probably picked on in middle-school, and figures it's her turn.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
who was not picked on in middle school? Middle school does not seem to exist for any other reason.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Malkin and Dana Perino wearing the same outfit in different colors? The new Fox uniform, I suppose. Have we seen Megyn in this uniform yet?
Imagine if the 11-year-old had asked a question at a Chimpy Bush rally? Given this level of mis-guided and badly staged behavior, the kid would have been given the Nobel Prize!!??
Ooohhh..no....Al Gore won that for being factual..he's a nasty democrat..oh..oh..oh.....can't do that....uh..uhh..uhh...uh...maybe the Glenn Beck award for best made up imagery by a toddler that I can understand award....that's the ticket..I don't actually have to go out and find a clue...oh..oh..oh..I feel a squeal coming on.....
boosh wouldn't have understood the question.
And darth chainey would lecture her about showing proper respect for elders, whether they deserve any or not.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
are almost as reprehensible as bloggers who stalk them.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
When I was a young man my dad used to say, " watch out for people who you can see the white all the way round their eyes". Wonder what he'd make of that psycho bitch?
with gaps between their front teeth bore the mark of the devil,
as an explanation of why she was voting for Truman over Dewey.
My mother voted for Dewey, because she had a gap between her front teeth. She never voted for another Republican in her life and made sure her kids had the orthodontics her parents could not afford.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Letterman and Lauren Hutton spring to mind
me-oww!
"Sanpaku"
I think it is a Japanese word for the condition.
at their convention where bouncy limpballs spoke. They all liked him because they thought he sounded smarter than the rest of the crowd there.
Conservative coalition. I remember quite a heated thread where some people here attacked that kid viciously.
Like I said, people who use their kids are almost as reprehensible as those who attack the kids.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Though I don't think I attacked him, you're right about using him is reprehensible. One thing we have to admit is that he was coached well and he was brighter than most of the crowd.
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