Like Mother like Daughter: Lynne and Liz
(Blast from the past, but this video explains a lot about Liz Cheney)
Time for another blogger ethics panel. Liz Cheney pals around with terrorists! OK, that's not true. She's allowed to say it about anyone mind you. She actually pals around with the media that's supposed to cover her politics.
Susan G at Dkos caught a brilliant illustration of the Village mentality in this New York magazine profile of Liz Cheney:
Fox is a regular pulpit, of course, but Liz is also all over NBC, where she happens to be social friends with Meet the Press host David Gregory (whose wife worked with Liz ’s husband at the law firm Latham & Watkins), family friends with Justice Department reporter Pete Williams (Dick Cheney’s press aide when he was secretary of Defense), and neighborhood friends with Morning Joe co-host Mika Brzezinski, daughter of Carter-administration national-security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski. When Mika criticized Dick Cheney on her show last year, the former vice-president sent her a box of chocolate cupcakes.
[...]
Liz’s friends say she sets the bar for all-American normality: She watches Mad Men and 24 on TV, drives an SUV, attends Girl Scout meetings, and is frequently spotted on the sidelines of soccer fields, trading gossip with people like Terry McAuliffe, Washington Post reporter Glenn Kessler, and other power players whose kids go to the Country Day School or the Potomac School.
The fact that these All American folks are also millionaire celebrities with the most powerful people in the world on their speed dials shouldn't be taken as signs that they aren't just like you and me. In fact, they are Real Americans in ways that the frou-frou coastal liberal elites will never understand.
And as Susan rightly notes, there is another teensy problem with this comfortable arrangement:
This idea that the national press corps can cozy up to sources or people in power they cover during afternoon soccer games or over Saturday night dinners, then turn around and hold their feet to the fire is ridiculous. You know it. I know it. Everyone outside of Beltway zip codes knows that. Hell, anyone who's ever tried to challenge a neighbor at a local meeting knows it.
But the Village? Meh. They have their own rules. And cupcakes.
Liz certainly has been trained well by her parents. I'm waiting for the day Liz rips David Gregory and asks him if he wants the terrorists to win too. This reminded me of the time Lynne Cheney went on CNN in 2006 and attacked her Villager buddy Wolf Blitzer over Dick's love of waterboarding in such a way that his poor itty-bitty feelings were hurt. You see, Lynne suggested to Wolf that he wanted the terrorists to win.
CHENEY: Well, right, but what is CNN doing running terrorist tapes of terrorists shooting Americans? I mean, I saw Duncan Hunter ask you a very good question and you didn't answer it. Do you want us to win?
BLITZER: The answer is, of course, we want the United States to win. We are Americans. There's no doubt about that. Do you think we want terrorists to win?
CHENEY: Then why are you running terrorist propaganda?
BLITZER: With all due respect -- with all due respect, this is not terrorist propaganda.
CHENEY: Oh, Wolf.
Read the rest of the transcript. It's quite enlightening.
BLITZER: It made it sound -- and there's been interpretation to this effect -- that he was in effect confirming that the United States used this waterboarding, this technique that has been rejected by the international community that simulates a prisoner being drowned, if you will, and he was in effect, supposedly, confirming that the United States has been using that.
CHENEY: No, Wolf -- that is a mighty house you're building on top of that mole hill there, a mighty mountain. This is complete distortion; he didn't say anything of the kind.
BLITZER: Because of the dunking of -- you know, using the water and the dunking.
CHENEY: Well, you know, I understand your point. It's kind of the point of a lot of people right now, to try to distort the administration's position, and if you really want to talk about that, I watched the program on CNN last night, which I though -- it's your 2006 voter program, which I thought was a terrible distortion of both the president and the vice president's position on many issues. It seemed almost straight out of Democratic talking points using phrasing like "domestic surveillance" when it's not domestic surveillance that anyone has talked about or ever done. It's surveillance of terrorists. It's people who have al Qaeda connections calling into the United States. So I think we're in the season of distortion, and this is just one more.
BLITZER: But there have been some cases where innocent people have been picked up, interrogated, held for long periods of time then simply said never mind, let go -- they're let go.
CHENEY: Well, are you sure these people are innocent?
BLITZER: They're walking around free right now and nobody has arrested them.
CHENEY: You made a point last night of a man who had a bookstore in London where radical Islamists gathered who was in Afghanistan when the Taliban were there, who went to Pakistan. You know, I think that you might be a little careful before you declare this as a person with clean hands.
BLITZER: You're referring to the CNN "BROKEN GOVERNMENT" special.
CHENEY: I certainly am.
BLITZER: This was the one that John King reported on last night.
CHENEY: Well, you know, right there, Wolf, "BROKEN GOVERNMENT." Now, what kind of stance is that? Here we are. We're a country where we have been mightily challenged over the past six years. We've been through 9/11. We've been through Katrina. The president and the vice president inherited a recession. We're a country where the economy is healthy. That's not broken. This government has acted very well. We've had tax cuts that are responsible for our healthy economy. We're a country that was attacked five years ago. We haven't been attacked since. What this government has done is effective. That's not broken government. So, you know, I shouldn't let media bias surprise me, but I worked at CNN once.
BLITZER: You worked ... (CROSSTALK)
CHENEY: I watched your program last night and I was troubled.
BLITZER: All right. Well, that was probably the purpose, to get people to think, to get people to discuss these issues because ... (CROSSTALK)
CHENEY: Well, all right, Wolf. I'm here to talk about my book, but if you want to talk about distortion ...
BLITZER: We'll talk about your book.
CHENEY: Well, right, but what is CNN doing running terrorist tapes of terrorists shooting Americans? I mean, I saw Duncan Hunter ask you a very good question and you didn't answer it. Do you want us to win?
BLITZER: The answer is, of course, we want the United States to win. We are Americans. There's no doubt about that. Do you think we want terrorists to win?
CHENEY: Then why are you running terrorist propaganda?
BLITZER: With all due respect -- with all due respect, this is not terrorist propaganda.
CHENEY: Oh, Wolf.
BLITZER: This is reporting the news which is what we do. We're not partisan.
CHENEY: Where did you get the film?
BLITZER: We got the film -- look, this is an issue that has been widely discussed. This is an issue that we have reported on extensively. We make no apologies for showing that. That was a very carefully considered decision, why we did that, and I think -- and I think -- that if you're ...
CHENEY: Well, I think it's shocking.
BLITZER: ...a serious journalist, you want to report the news. Sometimes the news is good, sometimes the news isn't so good but ...
CHENEY: But, Wolf, there's a difference between the news and terrorist propaganda. Why ...
It's quite possible that late Friday night, Wolf met Lynne in a bar and had a couple of drinks and talked about the weather.
On his Late Edition Sunday Show, Wolf feigned surprise that Lynne Cheney actually questioned his patriotism.
BLITZER: On Friday in the Situation Room on CNN, I interviewed the wife of the Vice President, Lynne Cheney. The interview generated quite a bit of commotion and we are going to replay the unedited version. First, some history. I have been covering the Cheneys for many years, including on a day-to-day basis when he was the defense secretary during the first Gulf War and I was CNN’s Pentagon correspondent. This — Mrs. Cheney has been a frequent guest on my programs. I have often invited her to discuss her new children’s books. She always is open to discussing the news of the day.
In this most recent interview, she, of course, knew we would would be speaking about politics. That was reaffirmed to her staff only hours before the interview. As a former co-host of Crossfire during the 1990s, she knows her way around the media. She was never shy about sparring with Democratic strategist and co-host.
I was surprised when she came out swinging on Friday, surprised by what she said about the “Broken Government” series and the excellent one-hour report by our chief national correspondent John King. One of the most precise and respected journalists in Washington. The decision to air sniper video which Anderson Cooper branded, I’m quoting now, “a single propaganda tape.” Surprised at her sniping at my patriotism.
To be fair to War Criminal/murderer Dick Cheney, if I had a choice between having sex with Lynne Cheney and doing torture...I'd take torture.
Sex and torture are inextricably tied together in Cheney family tradition.
care what is said by these two WHY????
Not me -good riddance and all that!
I agree; all that is missing between the Press Corp and these government officials are plastic sheets and a gallon of Weston Oil, but maybe they save that for the nighttime entertainment. As for David Gregory, at times its like he ready to stick his tongue into the mouth of some of his guest for deep kiss.
ex-VP Cheney & family are not afraid of Terrorists, Ha!
They are afraid of the DOJ. And they should be.
..I just want me some pancakes.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Because they know that the Democrats do not have the will to prosecute.
What they're afraid of us the few Americans out there who actually care what this nation stands for and maybe the few nations outside the US that are ready to try him in absentia.
you'll likely find vampire tooth marks on the necks of all the Cheneys.
That's why now they just can't go more than 24 hrs without feasting on human blood.
they are the terrorists.
So I guess since she lives in a Warshington DC neighborhood, when she runs for office, that's where she'll be running.
Or maybe not. I'm guessing there's a carpetbag in her closet (along with a few of daddy's skeletons...).
by moving to Virginia. She's probably too psycho even for Eric Cantor's district.
Good Gawd! With parents like these (Dick and Lynn) no wonder Liz turned out to be such a shrill rightwing bitch (and I very seldom use that word, but it's appropriate for her.)
to call someone rightwing when they are.
I see the media isn't satisfied giving valuable public platforms to the Liz Cheney, America's poster girl for nepotism. No, they feel the need to grant even more airtime to this hag.
One is just as unqualifed as the other to offer expertise on national security (and many more) issues, but here they are again.
Lynn Cheney should stick to advice about how to help your chickenshit husband avoid serving his country. She's an expert at that, right up to getting knocked-up after using up all four college deferrments for a degree he never came close to completeing.
What a pig.
Wanted to stop education in the US of Pre-Colombian history & societies. Why? "Gasp! They practiced Human sacrifice!"
Duh. And the Greeks & Romans practiced slavery; the ancient Egyptians worshiped animal-gods! Christians practice ritual cannibalism!
Funny- The Cheney's look like they practice ALL the above rituals, every day, twice on Sunday.
... Lynne and/or Liz follow the Elizabeth Bathory beauty regimen, and it'd be believable.
Lynne Cheney is the 21st century's answer to Eva Braun.
Hey, I heard from Liz that the actors that play terrorists on television are actually terrorists. And bad guys, too. Alan Rickman? Totally tried to blow up the top of a building. Good thing he died in that fall!
You know, when television news has terrorists on television, or cover stories about them, or show people with... you know... terrorist-sounding names, that means the network is secretly in terrorist hands.
And if that Agent Smith guy tries to punch me in the chest with the quicksilver taking over my body and stuff... I'll say, "No way, man! Liz warned me about you!"
A lawyer who defends someone against shoplifting is obviously a shoplifter him/herself! A lawyer who defends murderers...or child molesters...or speeders...drug dealers....
Obviously those accused crimes should not be defended.
If anyone should love criminal defenders, it is Dick Cheney.
are there to prevent a police state from taking over. They are not there just to defend those accused of crimes. Can you see how this concept was hated by BuschCo and its minions like the Cheneys?
And anyone who would allow their children to have a book written by this evil harridan should have their children taken away.
when the Dork Lard, Darth Cheney is tried in absentia, he will be waiving his right to defense counsel.
and just let the boys have their fun
"And do such bitter business, as the day
Would quake to look on."
this is what our country has become, where this kind of crap is blithely discussed, like choosing a new shade of wall paint, but then, i guess one must cover up the blood stains.
it is no wonder that so many people are disenchanted, insider interviews, insider trading, and on, and on, and on ....
"BLITZER: The answer is, of course, we want the United States to win. We are Americans. There's no doubt about that. Do you think we want terrorists to win?"
WE? Does Blitzer include himself in the "WE" that we all consider progressive or liberal?
Me thinks he is as bad at self evaluation as he is with his (so-called) reporting.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
I wonder how many people would be in jail if the Cheneys had their way with all of our civil protections.
They get to declare who is a terrorist without proof. They get to judge all declared terrorists with prejudice. They get to sentence with no regard. They create names like “enemy combatants” and “extraordinary rendition” to group who they see fit into any category they please. They get to torture anybody in any of these categories. Justice is easy for the Cheneys.
They are scared, little bullies who need to beat up all those who they think might harm them. The Cheneys are pathetic.
You get a cookie.
That's the biggest problem with this whole scheme.
Once one person can be tortured or murdered without consequence by the assholes in power then anyone can be. You. Me. Anybody.
After years of having sex/torture with Lynne Cheney, husband Dick has lost any comprehension of something like waterboarding being torture.
See, I am thinking the opposite-too little good sex had led to these frustrated, hateful people trying to drag the rest of us down.
Think about it, ED is an early indicator of heart disease, and many blood pressure medications interfere with arousal, Darth started having heart attacks in the 70s, and cardiac problems are often accompanied by erectile disfuntion. Lynn is probably uber-frustrated, which may have contributed to her lesbian fantasy life.
Maybe they would be happier people if they had a healthy sex life. A good orgasm can relieve a lot of stress.
Semi-seriously ;o}
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
Then I prescribe orgasms all around.
"Hey everybody, we're all gonna get laid!"
"Liz Cheney pals around with terrorists! OK, that's not true."
sure it is. same with her mom-thing. *cough dick cheney is a terrorist*
dick cheney used 'shock and awe' (see, fear and murder) against civilian populations in order to further political and economic interests.
...she doesn't 'pal around with terrorists'? Her father's Dick Fucking Cheney, for cryin' out loud!
"He wrote this book here and the book says ; He made us all to be just like him So, if we're dumb, then god is dumb and maybe even a little ugly on the side".
Frank Zappa
Of Donald Rumsfeld palling around with Saddam Hussein?
As Vice-President, didn't Dick Cheney keep company with Mr. Rumsfeld?
Isn't that association at least as good as McCarthy Era logic?
They're terrorists!
..they're terrorists the same way obl is. As much as I hate obl wouldn't mind seeing his card punched, ticket validated, be no more, at least he thinks he has a righteous cause. dick's got nothing buy $$'s in his eyes.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
http://alternativeperspective.blogspot.com/20...
They snag flies together?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
YEOWEE!!! So DICK has to send the girls out to cover his ass now, ehh??
Lynne, Liz, Margarette, WHO CARES?? If one is guilty - all are guilt including the kids and relatives... I guess Lynne accusing one of her own moronic minions (Blitzer) of liberal bias is just a head fake but these folks REALLY need to go live in Beaumont or Midland.. they can practice throwing grenades at each other....
and this Little Orphan Lizzie needs to STFU.
Just remember that Daddy Dick ran for the bunker under the East Room on 9-11. Would you expect anything else from the Commander-in-chief of the Vagina Corp? Cheney=SHIT.
..cheney = chicken-shit and ya kind make chicken salad outta' chicken shit. OR - Blue Falcon, Bravo Foxtrot, that's what cheney might be in a different context but chickenshit works, yup!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
There is so much nuanced psychological distortion going on this this clip it blows my mind. And what drives it all home is good old fashion greed...,"Wolf, can we talk about my children's book already."
..when you say: "It seemed almost straight out of Democratic talking points using phrasing like "domestic surveillance" when it's not domestic surveillance that anyone has talked about or ever done. It's surveillance of terrorists. It's people who have al Qaeda connections calling into the United States. So I think we're in the season of distortion, and this is just one more." are you talking about the American troops who's conversations were eavesdropped upon while they were talking to the wives and lovers? Are you saying they're "al Qaeda"? I'm willing to bet they're not and that action is illeg..oh wait, IOKIYAR. Silly me. Why would I think that something illegal done by a cheney or a bush is in any way illegal. MAYBE BECAUSE THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T HAVE THE BALLS TO CHARGE THEM WITH THEIR CRIMES! ..sorry..I'll sit down and shut up now.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
"It's surveillance of terrorists. It's people who have al Qaeda connections calling into the United States."
The NSA was passing around the phone calls of US Servicemen in Iraq calling their wives and having phone sex and laughing about it.
The FBI by their own admission abused national security letters for bullshit reasons thousands of times.
and the only proof we have that no Americans were ever surveilled is DICK CHENEY'S WORD that he didn't abuse it and we have Congressional hearings with a Quaker anti-war group Florida in 2006 that prove that assertion is bullshit.
The very idea that he should be able to taint jury pools by going on Fox and CNN like this is ridiculous.
and yes the degree to which Dick Cheney is free is inversely proportional to the amount of spine the Democrats have. Funny thing that. Dick Cheney is free. Osama Bin Ladin is free, but our own government is treating us ALL like criminals and we just take it.
Liz Cheney can go fuck herself. While reading Lynne's lesbian porn fiction!
they'd be in jail already.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Right, Lynn the lizard. You inherited such a big multi-billion dollar surplused recession from Clinton. You indebted America 13 trillion dollars deep because of Clinton. You ignored 56 blatant warnings about 9-11 because of Clinton. You lost 700 million jobs because of Clinton. You reacted slowly, but, was stopped in repairing New Orleans because of Clinton. Dick dodged the draft because of Clinton. You aided Haliburton from bankruptcy because of Clinton. You exposed a CIA agent because of Clinton. Your so depressing. Wolf, you're so stupid. All because of Clinton. Oh, and you're friends with Bin Laden, because of Clinton. Will somebody just get a rope? And I'm not at the end of her rope yet. She's done so much harm to America!
God, she just stinks.
Yes nothing is ever the fault of a Republican. Reagan raised taxes twice and tripled the debt of all previous presidents combined but it wasn't his fault.
..three times he raised taxes but hey, IOKIYAR.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Gotta give the girls something to do while waiting for Daddy Dick to buy the farm -- an event that I for one hope will take plae at the close of a sustained bout of excruciating physical pain vibrating through every atom of his being.
Actually even in the UCMJ (UCMJ, Art. 13, 10 U.S.C.A. § 813; R.C.M. 304 [f]), there is a presumption of innocence, and the attendent stricture against punishment before conviction.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Did I sezzat?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Proof that all the Cheney whores are habitual liars.
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to-MAH-to!
Thanks, I remember this appearance, and wrote about it at the time. The entire Cheney family shares a few moves. One is the poker bluff – they'll lie right to your face, and dare you to call BS. A variation on that is the "you're a traitor" attack Lynne Cheney uses here, and Liz Cheney often employs. The best thing would be if legitimate outlets didn't give these people a platform, but if and when they do, it's important for interviewers to know how they operate. Research is essential, and any real-time fact-checking would be fantastic. Most of all, interviews have to prepare for these sorts of attacks.
The Cheney family are terrorists. They talk and act like the communism hunters of the 50s. HAVE THEY NO SHAME?
..no.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
The Asses of Evil
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"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
In France the "National Front" is the far-right party, particularly nasty on Immigration and the Islamic Threat to pure French values and everything else.
The head of the National Front is 81 year old Jean-Marie Le Pen.
As with the Cheney Gang, it's a Family Affair ...
AFP (video): Le Pen, a political dynasty in the making
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
just before this about the Family.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/cspanjunk...
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
But in this instance by "a family affair" I meant "family" in the traditional sense of grandparents, parents, children, etc.
As with Dick Cheney, Lynne and Liz, so with Jean-Marie Le Pen and his daughter and granddaughter ..
Just like "All in the Family" .. except they're dead serious.
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
Follow the link.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
The Power Culture Club is incestuous?
For the love of dog, please say it isn't so.
their own little version of reality, don't they? Bushco "inherited a recession". Was that the budget surplus of 2000? To even imply that the government is NOT broken is a lie of dynamic proportion. Next, they'll be saying the goverment "became broken" on Jan 21, 2009. I hate these people.
I wouldn't assume they believe it though. The
bestmost skilled politicians never say what they think. They only say what they want you to think.I posted something that, while a bit cryptic, was still NOT something that I felt was allowed on this site.
Within 20 minutes you had deleted my comment.
While I'm sorry to make you have to go through that process, I applaud your diligence and quickness.
Good job!!...I will try to be more careful in the future
all it takes is all of us
Man , if ever the word bitch applied to a woman it surely applies to this "Gem" . The Cheney family is a freak show , they are not well . Lizard never stood a chance .
She needs to get a grip. In this country, it's innocent until proven guilty.
Right you are.
An interesting note on American Jurisprudence; a person can’t be found innocent – only “Not Guilty”. By default, convention, and precedent, a person accused of any crime is automatically “Innocent”. It is up the accuser to “Prove” guilt before that changes.
You're Muslim of course as proven by Gitmo and Cheney policy.
"it's innocent until proven guilty" , not in the Bush /Cheney neocon's world , it's shoot to kill first , then ask questions .
Can someone please explain to me why we give a shit what Liz and Lynn Cheney's opinions are on torture.
A. They're nobody. They are not torture experts. They have not studied the psychology of torture. They have never been tortured. They have never tortured anyone else. Liz may well have a Law Doctorate but having a JD and working for the State Department doesn't make you an expert on torture.
While Liz being a lawyer does entitle her to an opinion on legal matters, given that her father was the one actually ordering the torture she has a conflict of interest. Not to mention that torture is explicitly illegal under 'cruel and unusual' punishment. Hell if you read the Declaration of Independence, torture was one of the reasons given for us going to war against England so she can't even use the 'We don't know the founder's intent' argument to justify her bullshit.
Lynn is even worse out in left field, the closest she's ever been to law is serving on the board of directors for a corporation. So she's undoubtedly MET lawyers before. But knowing a lawyer, even one who is your daughter, doesn't make you qualified to write your own will. Yes you CAN do it, but there are reasons why people hire Lawyers in the first place. Because they have studied law. So listening to Lynn Cheney at all would be like hiring a plumber to drill out a cavity in your tooth just because your plumber happens to be your brother.
B. Liz Cheney works for the state department. But she doesn't have the sort of clearance necessary to know jack squat about what precisely the CIA or other torture providers did to who and when. So unless Dick violated national security and told/showed her (remember only the President has blanket power to declassify), she doesn't know a damn thing about what went on. The same can be said for Lynn. And if in fact Dick DID leak classified information to them.... then he should pay the price for that too. Liz may not be compelled to testify against him but Liz sure as hell can.
C. Lets face it, Dick is Liz's Dad and Lynn's husband. They're emotionally invested in protecting their loved one. So pretty much no matter what they're going to say whatever it takes to keep Cheney's ass out of prison. They're BIASED so why the fuck are we being force fed them? Did we bring the Unibomber's sister on to try to legally justify his actions? Did we take Maddoff's wife's word as scripture during his trial?
Liz and Lynn Cheney are qualified only as character witnesses at best. So, CNN, FOX and the rest... Stop fucking asking THEM their opinions. They don't matter. The LAW is what matters and the LAW says that what our government did at Dick Cheney and George W. Bush's command was illegal. It was illegal when we put Japanese soldiers to death for doing it... it was illegal when Reagan put a Texas sheriff in prison for doing it... and if it was Iran doing it to American troops or civilians you can be damned sure we'd be invading.
No amount of family love between the Cheney clan can change the law.
The only thing stopping prosecution is the Will of the Democrats and the Will of the American people. If both weren't a bunch of cowards with five second attention spans, Dick would already be behind bars.
of the Cheney women comes from the fear that the name Cheney is going to become as permanently poisoned and as much a synonym for evil as the family name Hitler. they are, basically, going to spend the rest of their lives, expending vast amounts of their life's energy, rationalizing things that they know in their heart-of-hearts is some of the deepest evil that human beings can indulge in. Their need to rationalize has already derailed their lives.
To my thinking, that process is but one of the faces of justice.
and I find it terribly sad that our society is so weak willed on our own supposed principals, that we're going to have to wait for justice until Italy or Spain moves against Cheney et all.
It should be OUR government trying his case. Not the Italians or the Spanish.
I nearly forgot about this vile bitch. It's no wonder "lizzie" is such a scum-sucking lying bitch. Look at "the tree". Just more of the same.
Read someplace the other day that lizzie has four children of her own? OMG!! More scum-sucking fruit of the devil.
all the money their father made from his Halliburton stock options, etc.
When Lynne Cheney wrote a book (Lesbian Cowgirl; Oxford Press 2005) she appeared on the Daily Show. Stewart wussed out and behaved like a gentleman. Nevertheless, when the show ended she bolted as though her hair was on fire. She couldn't have left more quickly if she had been shot out of cannon. (The TV audience only knew of her uppity rudeness because Stewart re-ran her exit on the next show). The ugly arrogance of the Cheney clan is remarkable. And yet, God knows why, the press continually seeks them out, like dogs returning to their own vomit. Something is terribly haywire with American journalism.
an apt analogy, I must say.
me-oww!
they're conservative/neocon propagandists. Of course they seek them out. they got to keep catpulting the bullshit.
Ongoing edition. First it was: 'we don't torture'. Then it was: 'enhanced interrogation', but not torture. Now that the facts of torture are common knowledge, the meme is: "we tortured and we need to keep doing so".
Funny how, that now that the "gig is up', they're on TV bragging about their guilt. Almost every Sunday morning, while Jesus weeps.
Self admitted war criminals are given airtime and treated like royalty. It's not like, "there ought to be a law against this type of subhuman behavior". The law is CRYSTAL clear. One wonders why the enforcement thereof is so murky.
When you invade a country that didn't attack you, torture a bunch of people into confessing to the whereabouts of imaginary WMD's, (going so far as to torture toddlers testicles in front of their parents) to force said confessions, you ought to be considered a criminal of the first order.
I vote for war crimes trials.
Enjoy.
Mom always told me I was special and I believed her.
The nazis tried the defense that every crime and atrocity committed was legal under German law, that it didn't matter that laws were crafted or changed in odrder to make those crimes and atrocity legal. Everything was, thus, in order. Nuremburg made short work of that argument.
The only substantive difference between the key players in the Bush regime and the Hitler regime is found in the external limits that opportunity imposed upon them. Nothing else. If the Bush regime had the opportunity to match the atrocities of the nazis, they would have done so. But, working within the limits they could not escape, they work a boatload of crimes and atrocities.
There must be justice, because they failure to attempt justice creates an enabling precedent of legality that the next despot can exploit. Look how much of what Bush/Cheney created and unleashed that the Obama crew is exploiting or unwilling to end.
I am tired of hearing from these decrepit warhawks. What does the other daughter say? Why can't we hear from the lesbian daughter? She was good enough to tout in front of the electorate to help him win his re-election, she was good enough to throw in John Edward's face (or was it Kerry?) why can't we hear about her feelings now?
Mary Cheney is busy with her 4-month old baby and serving on the board of the Cheney Cardiovascular Institute at George Washington University Hospital.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
FYI - Mary Cheney's partner is Heather Poe, daughter of rightwing nutjob from SE TX, Ted Poe.
When I was "Matt in Texas" he was my representative.
Of course, he is anti-gay rights.
Typical.
and daughters of Republicans who have served in Congress, and the homosexual lifestyle is a choice brought upon by exposure,
shouldn't we at least probe whether reproduction by male Republican Congressmen is a threat to the sanctity of marriage?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
"itty-bitty" feelings felt like back in 2006, or intejecting a meaningless observation like "(i)t's quite possible that late Friday night, Wolf met Lynne in a bar and had a couple of drinks and talked about the weather."
Today John writes that at the time of the 2006 interview "Wolf feigned surprise" at Cheney's attack. In real time C&L attacked Cheney and pointed out to Blitzer it was time to wake up.
"(Blitzer)seemed totally in shock when Lynne Cheney questioned his patriotism after he asked her about Dick's statements supporting water-boarding... Attacking the media has been going on for years (remember Ingraham and Gregory?) and Wolf's shock over it really is quite telling."
Your present invention of possible events, feelings and states of mind are unnecessary to the point of this post.
All you had to do is close this post by connecting the attack Cheney and her administration allies launched on CNN in 2006 to the cowing impact it has had on CNN ever since. Last week Blitzer was using his show to act as the Cheney's private shill.
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But you didn't. You missed opportunity to drive your point home. Leave the snarky revisionist history to us anonymous commenters.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
The Cheneys are a STAIN on humanity.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
if just once one of these people get up in the morning, see themselves in the mirror and have a moment of reckoning. A moment when they see their lives in abject horror and say Oh my god I am a loathsome worthless vile piece of inhuman shit. Nahh.
I guess the douche doesn't fall far from the old bag!
That's most certainly true. Just as it is true that water always finds its own level. Even when that water is raw sewage.
Whine whine whine
pennlady
are almost as bad as Barbara Bush!
See now before us, the Sith Lord who has been controlling these events, exposed!
Where the hell is Yoda when we need him?
what the hell Lynne Cheney is talking about...............
CNN and Wolf Blitzer are two absolutely obedient neocon/conservative propagandists. The organization and the person are never remiss in faithfully promulgating whatever propaganda points their masters direct them to spew, have no regard for truth or integrity, are without morals or compunctions about lying and manipulating and have no rock-bottom foundation below which they won't sink. Liberal bias? That's just demented.
If Blitzer had any shred of self-respect he would have taken hold of this mutant psycho hose beast by the scruff of
herits neck and ejectedherit from the premises, pausing every step or two to giveherit a swift kick on the butt.This is hilarious. The Cheneys are sick, twisted and some of the most extremely malign people of their respective generations. CNN executives must think that because it is a neocon/conservative propagandist organ that they are thus immune from the malice of the psychos to whom they give a forum. Watching this is like watching sharks turn on each other. Poetic justice of sorts.
...every time she appears in public with that war criminal father of hers.
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