President Obama faces an increase of 400% in death threats a day
As the mounting weirdness that is emanating from right wingers continues to flow, an increasing amount of death threats follow.
Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President's Secret Service.
Some threats to Mr Obama, whose Secret Service codename is Renegade, have been publicised, including an alleged plot by white supremacists in Tennessee late last year to rob a gun store, shoot 88 black people, decapitate another 14 and then assassinate the first black president in American history.
Most, however, are kept under wraps because the Secret Service fears that revealing details of them would only increase the number of copycat attempts. Although most threats are not credible, each one has to be investigated meticulously.
According to the book, intelligence officials received information that people associated with the Somalia-based Islamist group al-Shabaab might try to disrupt Mr Obama's inauguration in January, when the Secret Service co-ordinated at least 40,000 agents and officers from some 94 police, military and security agencies.
Being black has definitely increased the number of nut jobs on the prowl, but because he's in the Democratic party that number is much higher. And it's only going to get worse from here. The violent rhetoric from talk radio and FOX News continues to throw gasoline on the fire. Remember Dr. Tiller?
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way back in the eighties....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NyvYwfZR38
NSFW Language!
Tell we again why Obama and the democrats want to over look the most criminal and destructive administration in our history and put it in the past.. It just breeds more hate , deceit and crimes..
Well we see what ignoring the crimes and corruption for these a.. h.... are doing to our country..
Good religious , family values , moral , freedom lovers , law biding Christian republicans are showing us what they are really all about ,,, in the past 8 plus years.
And it is none of the above BS they are trying to say they are... Saddam told more of the truth then we hear from these criminals..
None
Start filling the prisons with these fools and make it public. Let out the pot convictions to make room.
;)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Gitmo!
Extradition!!
And let's be all patriotic about it. I say we put red, white and blue hoods over the heads of the "suspects".
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Abu Graib, American Marines with tasers - US cops, Pvt. Lynndie England, now General in charge.
I was trying to be funny by making a relative distinction. Gitmo would work √
Study the symptoms not the virus...
but I just like to bring up Gitmo from time to time.
especially after all the bullshit Bush & Co. put this country and the world through with their lies and malfeasance
..isn't it time he be charged with War Crimes?
I wonder how much of this increase is due to a sense of "freedom" to commit these crimes since so many others, like torture, the murder of witnesses (i.e., Blackwater's Mr. Prince), Halliburton's ineptitude at electrical contracting, etc., have gone unpunished. Make all these bastards pay for their crimes and maybe a sense of "civility" will return to the USA. This country is morally bankrupt!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
If the elites do it and get away with it... what has the common man really got to lose in trying? At least he gets his 15 minutes in the news cycle.
I had a girlfriend that used to love her 15 minutes during the spin cycle.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
... I don't think having their idols - the idiot cowboy and the wannabe Sith Lord - put on trial and convicted of war crimes would cool the ardor of nutjobs like Scott Roeder one jot.
As for the 'morally bankrupt' observation, it's the inevitable outcome when the immoral are your bankers.
"As for the 'morally bankrupt' observation, it's the inevitable outcome when the immoral are your bankers."
Again, I say: RAmen.
cooling the ardor of these anti-American assholes.
Treason in treason, war crimes are war crimes...they need to be tried!
*applause*
"Well, uhh... I was just you know... following Dick's orders."
Ain't no stupid, like rightwing stupid.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
They're more afraid of Somalis that all our local good ol'boys?
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I know any of them and many more whackos besides them would shriek censorship were the Secret Service to suggest that they might be charged with inciting the tiny brained - after all, the money they make stirring up the moron pool trumps everything - BUT, were I (or some other schmuck without a media forum) to begin writing crap like they write, you can bet your ass there'd be a knock on the door by a half dozen guys with flag lapel pins and mirror sunglasses.
Maybe the time has come for us to stop tolerating the nutjob's and their "jokes," misunderstood commentary and blatant dreck and tell them to STFU to their face on live television. I'd imagine Coulter would pee herself, but that might be entertaining too. Beck would reach for his flask of MD 20-20. That would be a chuckle too.
And then when ann pees herself, film it, and put it up on the internet.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
wrong guy. They should be threatening Beck, O'Reilly, Rush and Hannity that are riling them up. They are the real traitors.
... the brainwashed 'mainstream media' to understand they've been conned by Rush Limbaugh into selling the false equivalency of the far-right.
The far-right is bitching how no one in the White House is a doctor, but it's absolutely okay to have Ann 'Not A Doctor' Coulter on to bitch, or Sean 'Took The Hypocritical Oath' Hannity spout their nonsense.
marry me?
I am loving your comments today
I'd say Beck preffers Thunderbird or Night Train.
anyone have any good ideas on how to lessen the rhetoric before more violence occurs? As people feel more detatched from " their country" as they feel it should be the more chance of someone doing something rash. All I can think of doing is reminding my friends on the right when they talk about violent jokes is that you can dislike the policy but respect the person? But I think we need to do something as people because when Glenn Beck has to warn his listners not to do anything violent because it will wreck their cause then there is need for deep concern.
Calamine lotion?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
..the people who thought they could attack Ft. Dix and blow up JFK. For instance, this woman on Long Island with the camera, the guns (assault rifle and shotgun) and the 500 rounds needs to be put behind bars for a long time. Just because she isn't a Muslim or have brown skin should not mean "Well, she's a good Christian woman (if she is Christian) and mother and a very nice person." NO - she's a terrorist and a domestic one at that! She needs to go to jail and if they think she's "crazy", then she can get all the help she needs while in jail. We have to start treating these events SERIOUSLY, VERY SERIOUSLY otherwise there will be catastrophes (Murrah Building).
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
I can concern troll about how we need to return to civil, rational discourse till I'm blue in the face.
The hatred we're seeing has always been there. It's been festering since the Civil Rights Act, and there's damn little hope that these phucks would give 'the voice of reason' the time of day.
As the fable about the scorpion goes, it's their nature.
Since a lot of these dumbasses are from the south, I'd say clone General Sherman, give him a modern army and send him back to march to the sea and make the south howl again. Then threaten to send him back if they act up again.
better way to do it...is gave these scumbags a state...
hell...Limabugh and his ilk can have florida and texas Too
good riddens to the scumsuckers...I am being kind...
I was thinking of another name.
What can we do to abate the anger of the paranoid fringe right? Give them our blood. They'll settle for nothing less. They aren't any more angry now than they have been all of their lives. Even when there was a republican whitehouse, house and senate, they wanted blood. That's what they do. That's what resolution is for them. We will never be in a better position to stomp them down than we are in this moment. Unfortunately, the dems in congress (and, I'm afraid, our president) have not learned that you can't feed a crocodile cake.
Well, you CAN feed a crocodile cake, but he'll take your fingers with it.
Is with a sense of parity. They get their balls because they know the majority of those on the left don't have guns.
They show up with a pistol, we show up with a shotgun.
They show up with an assault rifle, we show up with sniper rifle.
They show up with a sub-machine gun, we show up with a general purpose machine gun.
These loons can't be reasoned with, they've been indoctrinated all their lives to think they're God's chosen people. You can't fight that with reason and more than you can reason with a suicide bomber. Though on the bright side, unlike the suicide bomber, most of the loons here are cowards and I'm willing to bet could be put in their place if they think everyone else has enough firepower to make their compounds look like Stalingrad. Sure their hole up and be as dangerous as caged animals but the they'll stay in their compounds and keep to themselves.
what do you think the life expectancy would be for Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, etc?
do you think they've considered this?
Nothing has happened to O'Reilly who touted Dr. Tiller's death for years.
but Dr. Tiller is not the first African American president of the United States either.
Besides, if anything does happen to o'reilly, it'll be in civil court. (And I hope.)
... and they know they can trot out the 'who, me?' act and nothing will happen to them.
Or they can go on air like Beck did and say don't turn to your gun, turn to your god. Then if something bad happens he has that for cover. Of course all the stuff he said before that he won't mention.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
... I think we could end up with something that looks pretty darn close to a Civil War.
I think it's possible that a lot of people on the left (and I wouldn't blame them one bit) would see this as the last straw, and just might start getting a bit retaliatory.
If the radio talkers had any brains at all, they'd really start broadcasting from underground bunkers somewhere, and their bills for security services would go through the roof.
The violent rhetoric from talk radio and FOX News continues to throw gasoline on the fire.
Mark Levin is on late afternoon drive radio in NYC. He's frothing at the mouth these days. Yesterday, he was incensed with comments by David Axelrod, "left wing liberal strategist", to the point where he was incoherent and rendered to simple name calling.
I have not seen his numbers, and if anyone can find them it's appreciated, but my gut feeling is that his ratings have to dropping like a stone here in the East. He takes VERY few calls, and those that he does come from well outside the region. He has several "regular" female callers who all sound like they are the same person.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
"Mark Levin" nielsen ratings generated a list of links to righty-tighty wingnut sites crowing about how Rush, Savage, Levin, et al thrash Olbermann and Maddow.
I doubt I'll find honest data there.
You could always call your local station and see if they have the ratings for Levin's show. Or perhaps something like Broadcasting magazine might have the data.
These rightwing assholes are on every station all day long here in Michigan, 60 - 38% democratic.
Most of their ratings are abysmal. Yet, the corporate welfare queens are still spewing their bullshit on the airwaves Mon - Fri, crowing about how they OWN (they don't tell you it's literally) the airwaves.
Whenever a slightly moderate liberal voice comes on, they quickly kick the conservatives asses in the ratings. But since "people only what to hear conservatism (Rush)," they switch them to a midnight timeslot, in order to start the termination process.
Orwellean f**kers.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
that fuckin company (can't remember the name at the moment) started buying up ALL the radio stations.
That's one monopoly that needs to be dismantled!
had to have been enacted for a reason
And yes, I agree!
... insure 'honest, fair and equitable' coverage.
At its base, it's from the understanding that an unregulated market is inherently given towards bias. If you have two kids and give them something to share, the only thing that assures an equal split is parental guidance (regulation). Our natural inclination, which can only be attenuated by education and ethics, is to take a larger share for ourselves, for a variety of motives.
It was the same problem as today with corporate/wingnut favored propaganda posing as "news".
The more things change...
belief that the airwaves belong to the People. Now they belong to rupert murdoch.
Clear Channel
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
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That's pretty much Levin's whole schtick, isn't it?
Although I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Savage had attempted to copyright that kind of schtick.
. . . . already half off on Amazon
He apparently dug up lots of juicy dirt on Clinton and Carter.
Interesting how the birthers and lunatic fringe seem to have their strongest support in the old Confederate South.
Come into the 21st Century, in the end you'll be better off for it.
It's over, move on with your lives.
The Old South is holding back the rest of the country from moving forward and competing on a global level.
My apologies to those of you in the South who are not stuck in 1865.
1) Charter Schools
2) No schools
3) Home schooling
4) Not enough air conditioning
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
They won't let us smoke weed.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
necessarily.
Too much moonshine and Bible readin'. Not enuff babes.
"Y'all pass muh duh fan, Rhett, Ah've got duh fee-male fee-vah, y'all".
You can say what you want about the South. But don't go insultin our wimmen folk.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
I luv me sum G.R.I.T.S. by goawd!
or the sheep...........
in teh ol' south...we got horses though...reeeeeeal purty ones too!
I know. Bush tried to milk a horse after downing a quart of Jack.
Too bad it was a male named, "Smilin' Bob".
That's nasty, but funnier'n hell!
We just clone General Sherman and send him back to kick their asses even harder this time around.
The FBI investigates all the RW pundits, and the networks that carry them, for treason, arrests are made, highly publicized trials take place...sentences are handed down and carried out....and then the birthers/teabaggers/healthcare "protesters" will go apeshit...and try to jumpstart the 2nd Civil War.
And the Federal govt. will come down on them like a ton of bricks.
I'm surprised that this number isn't much higher.
Despite the fact it's been a record cool summer in parts of the country where it's normally 95 degrees or hotter.
That's a frequent denialist mistake...
Don't make it...
Vancouver, hottest ever, Portland, 107 degrees last week. Unheard of.
for less than 200 years. The climate of the Earth has changed thousands of times during the Billions of years it's been flying around the Sun. How can we possibly say that this is the 'hottest it's ever been" - maybe since we've kept records, which is a millisecond in the history of the planet.
I'm sure a supporter of cleaning up our atmosphere and water and conserving important resources, but I'm not buying the global warming caused by human activity stuff.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
still...WAY to high for my liking.
We're hitting 105 with the heat index today.
Last two weeks had been cooler (90's) with a freakish amount of rain for July.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
... are you going back to... swinging in the breeze?
Study the symptoms not the virus...
I always sleep in the nude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5STa4eTDn5Q
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I would not click on that link if you offered me a million dollars. :)
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
None of the men depicted could possible resemble Ys.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKHSAE1gIs
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"I'd like to meditate too to recharge my batteries (I can't sleep nude in the light of the full moon anymore), but my neighbors are making too much noise."
Thank you for baring your soul, with the naked truth. :P
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Geeze, how long ago did I write that?
I always understood if one slept in the nude in the light of the full moon either madness or poetry would be the result.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I try to be a good listener. √
Study the symptoms not the virus...
I always understood the result would be mosquito bites.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
and you'd be exsanguinated in about 30 seconds.
in Minnesota or Ontario in the summer?
even during the day is bad in some places
In Michigan's Upper Peninsula, the flies and misquitoes eat the birds.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
Car drives you!
but it took me about a year to pay the lawyer who did it for me.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Thank you Meester Reemshot!
I wonder how many of these threats come from the same person or persons each day? Some loon sitting in his trailer with his shiny new cell phone and half blown away on cheap beer.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
So, can you get totally blown away on good beer?
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
difference.
Wait. She said cheap beer. You said good beer. Where's Tyler?
That's a false dichotomy!
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Guiness.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"I'm here on a rural family farm where they produce soybeans and wheat and we are having pie and ice cream in the family kitchen."
that had something to do with the OKC bombing?
That sounds familiar.
or listening to blimpy limpballs.
... about the troll traffic here.
Me too. Like yesterday or the day before the troll had different names but said almost the same thing every time.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Every time. Yesterday or the day before.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
is NOTHING compared to what's goin on at huffpo.
... you can't take a step without tripping over one of these idiots lying in the aisle.
Can't swing a dead fuckin cat in there without hittin at least 10!
That's what the Birfer program is all about.
They're trying to knock loose the next Scott Roeder, a mindless drone satrurated with eliminationist propaganda to take a shot at "thePrez."
Yeah, if it worked there'd still be a Dim in the Oval office, but at least he'd be a WHITE MAN.
And since the whole impetus for the Birfer 'movement' is racial animus toward the "uppity" negro, Obama, they could live widdat...
I was trying to tell you not to use the number 88, do you see why yet? ;)
like Beck, O'Reilly and Dobbs are allowed to send out their calls for violence every night on national television we'll continue to see more and more shootings like the one in PA last night.
13 mins ago
BRIDGEVILLE, Pa. – A man who sprayed bullets into a fitness class filled with women, killing three and then himself, apparently kept a Web page in which he wrote about years of rejection by women and an earlier plan for violence at the gym in which he said he "chickened out."
In a Web site posted under his name, Sodini wrote rambling messages about his hatred of women and how he was tired of being rejected by them. He ended by writing, 'Death Lives!'
extremist RW pundits Evet.
Maybe Obama could accuse him of clinging to guns and religion
and make him a talk radio cult hero. Then Chris Matthews could force the Prexy to invite him over for a beer.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
to bring that guys corpse into the WH.
who were at least brain dead.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
that last guy was a mental flatline for sure.
he'd make a lousy radio host
"The Associated Press and other news outlets have omitted references to President Barack Obama, the election of “The Black Man” and remarks that black men have “their choice of the best white” women when republishing excerpts of the diary by a Pittsburgh-area man who killed three women and himself at an LA Fitness gym Tuesday evening."
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/05/ap-omi...
..the bastard then commits suicide! Doesn't even have the guts to stand trial for his violent act. This is the American version of the "Suicide Bomber" or "Homocide Terrorist".
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
We have a winner...
And the hatred of wome sure sounds like a RW pundit listening thing to me. Show me a Beck/O'Reilly/Dobbs fan who DOESN'T consider women second class citizens!
What woman would want to be stuck on a date and forced to listen to some overrated loser criticizing everybody and everything to make himself feel good?
at how many women end up with assholes that think only about themselves.
you would not be, is that it?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
smartass
I treat women with respect.
I ain't no self centered asshole.
we always knowed yours puckered a little on the left.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
jokes just ain't workin for ya today dude.
I've got a good friend who's had some serious bad luck with guys, all of them assholes and two of them I've had to threaten with violence when I noticed bruises on her. One got threatened with my katana, the other with my Lee Enfield rifle.
with totally smarmy self centered creeps...
I don't understand it.
But anyway, I've had to come to the aid of several female friends who had psycho boyfriends.
And get this...my brother called me a f@g, because I didn't try to get laid when they stayed at my house.
Not that the thought didn't cross my mind, I am a man after all...but I couldn't sleep at night, if I had taken advantage of them while they were vulnerable and really needing a safe place to stay.
Evidently, that's not an issue for my brother.
Wed, 08/05/2009 - 08:26 — liberalNmoderation
So why is it that I habitually encounter negative reinforcement?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
you thrive on rejection? };)>
Must explain why I've been trying to be a free-lance writer for years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uFcPjILC7k
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Call me paranoid, but I can't help to think that there is a plan involved here. Just look at how many right wing on-air talkers are spewing the same "take our country back" and "Obama isn't an American" crap. Just as the controlling factor of the right wing worked hard to get Clinton in a perjury trap to try to get him out of office, I think the same forces are trying to get enough nut jobs worked up with hopes that some of them will try to take pot shots at him. IMO, this is a well coordinated attempt to get our president assassinated.
Then I'm sure the Secret Service is watching Obama the same way Hitler's guardian angel was watching out for him.
About the coordinated effort part...but not about it being well coordinated.
this can be directly correlated to the noise from the rightwing echochamber. the fbi should be investigating the hate speech from the rightwing windbags. you cant shout fire in a crowded theater and think its ok.
cases.
..they can tune in and hear it every night!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
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People use that fire in a theatre line a lot here, and I usually respond by saying, "You can if there's a fire."
However, here's a thought, it's the risk of panic and injury by making such a shout that is illegal, whether or not there is a panic or any injury. I think that's applicable here.
In the Vietnam war years, draft and war protesters werent's making threats against Johnson, but insults like, "Hey, hey hey LBJ, how many kids you kill today?" If they were attacked conservatives would say they asked for it (Bad Tendency Test), however, it's not the same as threatening the president's own safety.
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on some goddamn rightwingers.
They thought the LA riots were bad...wait until you see a mixed group of absolutely enraged people ready to rip some rightwingers limb from limb.
O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Savage, Beck, Coulter...Malkin...and every other POS who fomented violence against Obama...if ANYTHING happens to Obama...there will be massive mobs of people lookin to give you all the Mussolini treatment...think about that...let that sink in, and remember it next time you advocate violence against our President.
Sounds like a description of those who so believe there's going to be a race war, even if they have to start it.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
it will be racist whites against everyone else, and they're vastly outnumbered I'm thinkin.
a ways up the road from me that I've been told a buying a case of ammo a week stocking up for the race war. They'll be some of the first gone.
quite a few around here also, there must be a hell of a lot of them
The cousin of my rightwing friend in Utah is stocking up on ammo because "Obama is going to take it away from" them. Needless to say, when I asked for any evidence that might support that notion the silence was deafening...
What happened to all that "even if you don't like what he's doing he's still the President, so you have to respect him" nonsense?
Oh. Right.
when I tell them it's the NRA scaring them to drive up firearm & ammo sales. Some nods of agreement from others
that are pretty much of the idea that one day the govt. will come for their guns...no matter what party's in charge.
One guy and his wife absolutely hated bush.
Haven't talked to them since before this election...
which is kinda worrisome.
;-P
Study the symptoms not the virus...
I think they went to Alaska, actually.
:)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
indeed...and to get away from it all...and they mentioned somethin about growin "vegetables" indoors...
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