Sue Lowden's 'Chicken For Checkups' health care plan is Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs
Conservative humor is alive and well. Harry Reid's challenger in Nevada, Sue Lowden, strikes comedy gold with her silly "livestock barter" program for doctors:
Sue Lowden (R), the leading Republican Senate candidate in Nevada, recently articulated her vision of how the American health-care system should work. At a local candidate forum, Lowden, a former state senator and chair of the Nevada Republican Party, encouraged Nevadans to "go ahead and barter with your doctor." It would, she insisted, "get get prices down in a hurry."-
"I'm telling you that this works," the Republican candidate explained. "You know, before we all started having health care, in the olden days, our grandparents, they would bring a chicken to the doctor. They would say, 'I'll paint your house.' I mean, that's the old days of what people would do to get health care with your doctors. Doctors are very sympathetic people. I'm not backing down from that system."
It's a permanent credibility-killer. It's one thing to be a confused, far-right candidate. It's another to be a laughingstock.
Talk about channeling Michael Landon and "Little House on the Prairie." It was a pretty good show at the time, but it did take place in the late 1800s.
If you have a serious illness you might get away with this idea, not with chickens, but by giving up a new BMW or a Rolex, maybe.
Greg Sargent reports that the DCCC has a new website dedicated to Reid's challenger.
That’s the name of a new Web site the DSCC is planning to unveil today in an effort to draw national attention to GOP Senate candidate Sue Lowden, who doubled down this week on her assertion that people should barter with doctors to reduce health care prices, a DSCC spox tells me.
The DSCC’s new Chickens for Checkups Web site — a name that first appeared below on this blog — will allow people to send Lowden a “personalized message asking for her help in finding a doctor for their 19th century illness,” DSCC spox Deirdre Murphy says. It will include a menu of stuff you can choose to barter for treatment.
“You can’t make this stuff up,” Murphy says. “Sue Lowden is completely out of touch with reality if she thinks trading chickens for checkups is smart health care reform.”
She just tripled down on the idea and said doctors do support her "chickens for checkups" idea. Lowden certainly has made this a national story now. And I predict there will be some teabagging doctors who will adopt this for awhile, just to back her up as long as they have enough money in the bank to do it.
Is she just cuckoo for cocoa puffs? Sure looks like it.
She is one Cheerio short of a bowl!
One crispie short of a treat!
One frost short of a flake. *rim shot*
well played ghost rider!
Please feel free to add more breakfast food references!
Short of being Lucky.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
She snaps and krackles but fails to pop?
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
A bunch of granola short of a bar
And no raisin.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Fruit Loops.
And is she really advocating a return to the barter system?
Someone has told her this would be a good platform to run on.
Lets just say she's a toasted O.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
She is a cereal politician - a flake AND a nut cluster . . .
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
I've got nut clusters...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Maybe you should get a chicken and see a doctor about those. ;o}
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
I think there is a cream for that . .
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Nut'N' Honey.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-TP5vzTFII
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
a "Special-K"
Flunked out of Pre-K.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Wed, 04/21/2010 - 13:22 — mudshark
Short of being Lucky.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymrNDQ-pJpo
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Nice video. Thanks!
maybe a shredded tweet?
Chock full o' fiber.
I'd have put the number orders of magnitude higher.
I think I cracked a rib falling out of my chair laughing.
How can people be so dumb? I mean, even if she doesn't believe it, how can you be dumb enough to suggest this publicly as a viable solution to American health care problems?
Doltish.
In all fairness, she is from Nevada and I've heard of prostitutes bartering for professional services.
She's NOT from Nevada...she's from New Jersey. She transplanted to Nevada in the 80's as a teacher.
Sue Lowden does not know the difference
in coco puffs and brown flakes on a toilet.
...she was a newsreader on TV, and used to irritate me badly because she couldn't pronounce a final "d" in words such as "hundred" -- she'd say clearly "hundrett."
You're making this up, right?
Right?
OMFG....
Listening to her, do you really expect anything intelligent from this dumb cluck? Something was either pecking away at her little brain, or she was thinking about cock when she said that.
Either way, wherever she was plucked from, she should be tarred and feathered and sent back there immediately!!
New Jersey
In the "olden days" doctors made housecalls.
"Olden days" .. way back in the 1950s when I was a kid.
But mom and dad always paid cash - no chickens.
And way back then hospitals were non-profit, and routinely treated patients who were unable to pay. The state, city, county would pick up the tab.
Let's bring back THOSE "olden days."
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
the doctor will have to hire illegal aliens to care for all the chickens and pay them in chicken feed.
The ideas well for the GOP has clearly run dry.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Then again, perhaps she's the lead person on the repub's version of the health care reform the Party will support.
Patient: "I'll be right back- they're in the Honda."
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
I really hope she's Reid's opponent and has to explain this chicken for checkups stance in the general election.
Sad fact, it will play well with Nevada repub's and bring out the vote.
If I have a foot injury can I offer Chicken Soup for my Sole in exchange for treatment?
Well done.
Anyone know where I can get a list of doctors who support this (since they probably hate health care reform as well.) I have access to many chickens.
Also, can I send Blue Cross a few chickens, or do I have to wait to see how many chickens-worth their services allow?
Health care is so confusing.......
when I could have just offered him a horse.
This could be a plan, but I believe we need some clarification of terms.
Are we talking laying hens, capons, stewing hens, roosters, chicks, fryers, roasters, or what?
Does payment have to be made with a live chicken, or is one that has been dressed and prepped for cooking acceptable?
Does bird flu become a factor?
What if your doctor is vegan, are vegetables an appropriate alternative to chickens?
Maybe Sue did not think this plan through. ;o}
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
Also, should your chicken be live, dead, plucked or frozen?
At the cost of medical care, what would she barter? Her first born?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
...become the new ideal again all of the sudden? Oh yeah - Walnut Grove is in Michelle Bachmann's home state, which she - or a paradoy of her - reminds us here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5u_unti7kg
MTD
so I guess one had better throw in a half dozen eggs for the IRS
You would pay the doctor a chicken to cure you of consumption, and he would bleed you.
I do know of doctors who will barter for services. A family friend who was serving in very rural PA used to accept fence-mending and bushels of apples for his services.
A dermatological surgeon told me that she will barter with some of her older, income strapped clients. She can't write off a total surgery, and she would never turn them down. They don't want to be indebted. So sometimes she gets minor electrical work, or an oil change, or whatever in exchange for treatment.
Don't think you can run an entire health-care system on that, though. This is more of an act of kindness and dignity between 2 like-minded individuals.
Yes! It's a personal choice to accept alternate methods of payment for services and only when circumstances make such transactions necessary. Unfortunately, Lowden is drawing too much attention to a personal and private matter between doctors and their patients who have limited means. And such acceptance of barter is done so as an act of good faith and compassion. Seem Ms.Lowden never learned that part of the lesson from her parents.
the
goldchicken standardAnd when she has fundraisers for her own re-election...
Yes, barnyard fowl only for her and any politicians who agree with her.
Hmm. A Reslug that's against capitalism. Now I've seen it all.
will be real barn burners
i screwed up my own "joke"
*sigh*
The "yolk" is on you.
But I had insurance at the time. The insurance would not cover his fee so I ended up putting new siding on the front of his house.
But this is why we came up with the monetary system.
WTF?!?!
And no one is laughing?!? That's the pathetic part. The right wing screams about political correctness, and then puts forward morons like this and we're not supposed to bust out laughing in their face?!?!
This woman isn't stupid. She's deranged. The only excuse I can make for her is that people like her are so power and money hungry that they will say ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous, to curry favor with the money and power changers.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
"WHO IS BACKING THIS WOMAN."
Chicken farmers?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2352/217904118...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Frank Perdue
She should get her salary in livestock from now on.
I went to the doc today for an eye exam and new lens for my glasses and sun glasses. The total was almost $900.00. How many chickens should I have offered him before I wrote the check?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Love this idea. Chickens won't pay for their Mercedes.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
and he still allows people in his home town in Maine to barter services in the most dire circumstances. For example, I remember him bartering with an out-of-work welder, trading an hour or two of medical care for a custom bike rack for our family. But my old man is a pretty progressive dude - he'd rather barter services than see one of his patients go without medical care. That being said, doing so shouldn't be the go-to solution for paying for medical coverage. We should have a better system in place.
He's also reaped the benefits of a long career.
I doubt some newly minted MD is going to accept payment in soy beans and silk stockings.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
it's tough to pay off $150K in debt when you're getting paid in goats
That rather depends on the goat, does it not?
http://www.delusionresistance.org/images/Baph...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
What's the average doctor's salary these days.
Oh...yeah...I know...malpractice insurance. I guess they want tort reform and a federal bailout to the AMA for all those outrageous lawsuits for frivolous claims like when a doctor botches your gallbladder operation cause he was on an all night bender the night before.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Your dad sounds like a very special person. I'm betting he's a democrat because like most dems, he thinks about others. Republican appear to only think of themselves.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
he's a democrat to the bone.
I've gotta bone...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Whacky for weed
Then I'll eat anything...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Any idea what the co-pay is for a one chicken procedure?
An egg?
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Vinni...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Speaking of bones.......
Not a whole egg, just the white. ;o}
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
That sounds, , , well , , yolkish.
:)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
And Sue Lowden sounds like a yokel--its all coming together now!
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
At last, some good, old-fashioned conservative common sense on health care!
Pay with a chicken...get treated with leeches.
Makes all the sense in the (flat) world.
I have a feeling she is a Beck fan.
Just sayin'
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Well, you would have to wear shoes in the doctor's office. I hate that stuff between my toes. I lived in Las Vegas for twelve years and I can't believe that they could choose this clown for US Senator.
Let's all just take up barter, join the underground economy and skip the tax man altogether.
Papa Legba need dat chicken ta lay down da mojo on dem socialistics. Hail tha vaudau!
Reality ain't.
When will Reid and this woman have a debate? I would really like to hear her explaination for her statements she made. Of course, no one will really make Lowden answer the tough questions she should be answering. I would be pleasantly surprised if that actually happened.
bothered to check with the IRS about how they feel about barter? Is there a space on the long form for number of chickens received as income?
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Good point. One doesn't want to run afowl of the law.
...otherwise, your goose is cooked.
"When profit comes up against morality, it's rare that profit loses."~Shirley Chisholm
When the person who performed critical surgery on you was the same guy who shaved your beard.
God, I bet you plenty of people nodded to her as if she was anything but crazy.
In the old days if your medical bills had you behind the 8 ball,why you could bang the land lord to pay the rent.You could go to some guy in a back alley for an abortion for a nominal fee or perhaps a few chickens.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Lowden's crazy out of touchness + chickens + techno = LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZezfjWox5s
As the years go by, our politicians become more and more inept, out of touch and just PLAIN stupid. Dear God...this country is doomed.
Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime
Who treats the doctor if he gets a chicken bone stuck in his throat?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
...dollars by setting up a website that handles barter transactions between patients and doctors.
Patients will be able to go on-line, sign up, log-in, and specify their medical need along with how many chickens they have to trade. The website will match that with a doctor somewhere who's willing to do the procedure for that many chickens.
After working out the kinks, the site will expand and the medium of exchange will extend beyond chickens to virtually anything that can be moved (and in the case of real estate, stuff that can't be).
Of course, bartering will not keep health care inflation under control, and after a few operations, the going rates will skyrocket. People will be trading their cars, homes, and children (full title or indentured servant) for treatment. This will facilitate the transition the South has always wanted -- from freedom to the return of slavery. Multiple births will become popular, since parents will be able to trade title to one child for the delivery costs of another.
And with the Republicans back in power in Washington who will be the ideal candidate to run the Department of Bartered Health Care Services -- why, none other than Sue Lowden, the genius behind the scheme. Once again the US will be the envy of the world.
I guess she decided to give Palin some competition for " the mother of all airheads " title belt .
I think this calls for some Haiku's
Wingnut for Senate
Lowden hatches an idea
Barter for Healthcare
Poultry Pay
Foghorn Leghorn Flees
What the cluck!
And in really rual areas doctors might get to be fairly wealthy -
relative to most of the rest of the population who rarely had any cash.
Of course there weren't nurses, secretaries, computers, X-Rays, NMR's sterile needles, ER's, hospitals, ambulances and life flights, and equipment, transfusions, transplants, chemo, insulin, or any lab tests to speak of to add to the doctor's over head.
You could die from asthma, chicken poxs, a chest cold, soar throat, tetnus, snake bite, and the ever present intestinal parasites.
There was however a very high child mortality rate, and on average a short life span with death often as a result of problems that today's expensive tests, and very highly trained physicians with their equipment etc make easily treatable.
So let's let Ms Lowden be the very first to see what kind of care she can get for a chicken. And how many chickens it will take to pay the physician for the time they waste in the bartering process.
Oh, and Ms Lowden, be sure to carry a chicken in your purse, you never know when you may get run into on the road or fall and break a wrist, so like the add used to say a now useless credit card "Never leave home without it."
Cluck Cluck
"...be sure to carry a chicken in your purse, you never know when you may get run into on the road..."
You're assuming, of course, that the chicken wants to cross the road...
"When profit comes up against morality, it's rare that profit loses."~Shirley Chisholm
Now why would a chicken cross the road?
To get away from the Right Side.
Too much nuts and corny folks over there!
I'll start paying in-kind when Doctors start making house calls again.
I wonder if Tweety thought she was presidential material. Maybe he still does.
He thought George "Macaca" Allen was, and Fred Thompson.
Now really, Ms. Lowden, which is it, a chicken or a house-painting that Granny and Gramps gave the doctor? I can get a chicken for 5 or 6 bucks, but painting the house costs way more. And what if my doc doesn't like chicken or just had the house painted?
Another congressional nutball with the (R) after the name throwing total nonsense into the issue.
And if she really likes that system, I assume she's dropped out of the Federal Employees Health Benefit Program (which by the way, is NOT a Cadillac plan, for those who think it is).
who depends upon insurance company and medicare/medicaid reimbursements for patient care. Let me tell you, the chicken doesn't sound too bad. Sue Lowden got it wrong thinking the major cost of healthcare is in the physicians bill, it is not. Instead, take a look at the pharmaceuticals, the hospital services, the labs and radiologic testing, and some specialist practices. A hometown GP or family practice doc gets reimbursed about $2.00 for each office visit - thats the government program. The insurance companies want to use that amount as a starting point- in fact, are forcing it as their 'customary average fee'. This is why docs drop medicaid patients, they don't want insurance reimbursements to insist on matching what the gov't pays for the poorest. It is now cheaper to see a doc that does not accept insurance, and forgo health insurance, but only if you are healthy. The docs are suffering too, most dollars go to the giant insurance companies who try and shift cost blame and control to everyone else.
The fact that this airhead is leading Reid by 10% in the latest polling paints a truly pathetic picture of current politics. I'm not sure, exactly, if it says more about Reid or the people of Nevada. Thoughts?
There is still time to turn this around for Reid with some silly ads with sound effects of patients leading some cows into the doctor office, carrying chickens, or maybe bardering with some smelly fish wrapped in paper.
How would they make change?
And what if the doctor wants to make a deposit to his checking and savings account?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Where do the Reslugs find these uneducated ding-bats????
find the GOP, not the other way around. It's "natural selection".
I worked in the far reaches of Nevada back in the day, and I must say, while some bartering occasionally went on, it didn't have much to do with chickens. I do seem to remember breasts and thighs being mentioned, though.
This is just great...the chicken laughs keep coming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3lwamcvrN4
Even Looney Tunes look sane next to Lowden's plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLV0xapIXKk
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