Ted Haggard peddles HBO documentary about his fall
By John Amato Saturday Dec 20, 2008 9:30am
You've got to be kidding me.
DISGRACED evangelical leader Rev. Ted Haggard will finally break his silence - to promote an HBO documentary about his own fall from power.
The coming out is set for next month at a convention of TV critics in LA.
"We look forward to presenting the film, Ted Haggard and his family at a press tour in LA next month," said a spokeswoman for HBO.
In 2006, Haggard was fired as the senior pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs and lost his post as the president of the National Association of Evangelicals after a former male prostitute said the reverend had been a regular customer for sex and methamphetamines.
When the scandal broke, Haggard was paid a year's salary, about $130,000, and agreed not to talk about it publicly...read on
What could we possibly learn about this religious hypocrite other then the fact that he embodies many of the qualities that inhabit Conservatives today.
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Who cares what this pice of SHIT has to say. he is juat a nother reglious fucktard.
But sex and smut seems to be the new C&L.
... what we already knew -- that Televangelicals are pathological exhibitionists who would have been better suited for careers in the entertainment business they profess to abhore.
Real Sex 25 or 26?
..will be a huge hit. I hope there are numerous references to speaking with the President included. And it would be interesting to know what kind of payment from HBO he received. I'm curious if he can finally retire or still has ahold of a collection plate
Is this what a gay lifestyle does?
It's what religion does.
this is what people do. they like to get high and have sex. i looked at the linked article and was amused by the the break in his name "hag gard". this is an insult to hags.
?????????????
A "gay lifestyle" firstly isn't a lifestyle. Being gay doesn't DO anything, it just IS.
Haggard is an unscrupulous profiteer that seeks to earn money form his unwashed followers, who are ignorant. Yes, ignorant. One might say, "Forgive them. They know not what they do."
fucking bullshit. It's a life condition -- ie how someone was born.
"Lifestyle" implies somehow choice was involved. For all the homophobes out there, for the sexually ambiguous who were also born the same -- it's a "choice" for them when they DECIDE to ignore, bury or otherwise cover up their 'gay' feelings.
So you could call these assholes way of living a "Faux Hetero Lifestyle" which includes a beard or skirt, marriage (yes gays can marry anywhere, as long as it is to a member of the opposite sex), kids and the inevitable heartache of discovery.
Now THAT'S a 'Lifestyle.' And a fucked up one to boot.
Don't use the language of the oppressor.
I was once "accused" of not coming clean about being gay, as in I didn't announce it to everyone at the outset. I was just me, doing my job. (They were nice people, now my friends. My point is the general ignorance.)
I asked my "accuser," "Did you say, 'Hi. I'm Patrick, a heterosexual,' when we met?"
That was enough said. That simple response taught 15 people something.
sarcasm
It's a life condition -- ie how someone was born.
so you think it's genetic?
I just know that people are born with an innate sense of being. I would consider that to include gender identity and sexual orientation.
I know families with multiple gay and lesbian members. I've heard mothers say that they knew before their kid went to kindergarten. That's not making a choice; it's knowing who you are.
Until scientists say it's a genetic trait, I won't know, however I am leaning toward epigenetics, which is a branch of genetics which look at changes to phenotypes or that occur in genes due to effects outside of DNA changes. Like diet, a bump on the head, getting too warm, having an illness, what happened to the parents and grandparents of the egg and sperm producers.
In the NW, we have Coast Douglas firs and Mountain Douglas firs. Genetically identical (not as twins, but as species -- they will produce fertile offspring -- the acid test), but neither can produce seedlings that will thrive in the others' climate. THAT'S epigenetics.
In other words, I think the same thing that makes gay people gay is the same thing that makes straight people straight and bi people bi and transgendered to believe they are in the wrong gendered body, and the comfortably gendered know they were given the correct junk.
It doesn't really matter what I think it is; it is what it is.
Is there a gene for sexuality period? Guess no one knows, eh.
Taxanomically the firs are sub species or "ecotypes". They evolve for variations which fit in the environment from which they are derived. They are close but not exactly the same genetically.
Is there a gene for sexuality period?
Yes, in fact a whole chromosome dedicated to it.
If humans as a species just "evolved" - what role would being gay have in evolution since it biologically goes against the way humans procreate?
Does that gene have heterosexual stamped on it? If so, I'm guessing there are ones that say homosexual.
There are such things as genetic "mutations" (change, alteration, transformation, transmutation, metamorphosis, transfiguration, modification.) That's also part of evolution, or else we wouldn't evolve.
I don't think there is any hard and fast answer to be had. Unless you want to get all "X-men" and banish us from society.
Mutations can be both good and deleterious.
How would such a mutation, assuming one exists, be biologically "good" for the evolutionary survival of the species?
OK Dr. Mengele: Maybe people with blue eyes should be weeded out from those with brown eyes. More people have brown eyes. How are blue eyes "good" for our evolutionary process?
Do brussels sprouts taste good to you? To me they taste like candy because I don't have the gene, which others have, allowing them to taste a bitterness. Evolutionarily, I might be better disposed to survive if brussels sprouts were all that was left to eat. The range of greens I can eat is superior and good for our survival as a species.
Let the cleansing begin??????????????? How about a super-race of white-skinned, brown-eyed people? Is that what you suggest? Hell, why not make them exclusively wealthy Americans while we're at it?
Perhaps people with genes predisposing someone to a disease, such as a heart disease, or diabtetes, are a threat to our survival. Do they have to go??
Who else is on your list?
PS: You'll never "win" with me because I am expert at this craft. I grew up with a genius, and lawyer, father and take him on all the time. He's never "beat" me. We often call a truce. I'm pretty good at it, if I do say so myself.
(Shoulda bin a lawyer, but teaching and travelling is way more fun.)
See, you seem to need a hard and fast rule as to why things are as they are. In my experience that just doesn't happen. Look at the panoply that surrounds us.
I have chemobrain, and I lost a lot of words. But it's a similar thing.
And with all the bullshit and shit like this heaped upon those with a minority way of being, WTF would anyone choose it? Explain all the gay penguins and non human animals. Shit happens. Sometimes we don't get to choose.
Your pointed questions seem to point to you somehow 'disapproving' of teh gay, as if it's your business to do so. And you seem to know the answers you ask me.
I'm catching a whiff of bullshit here.
The same mainstream media that has people hooked on Buffy the Vampire Slayer and pro sports, have people addicted to the "train wreck" voyeurism like this.
It's what being a 21st American consumer is all about. So drive your SuV to the Walmart, pick up some beer and some plastic Chinese junk and flip on your TIVO and watch a poor self dreading homosexual ruin his life.
It is no more ridiculous than Dancing with the Stars or Survivor.
It may have a moral component lacking in most MsM products, it may say to the viewers, "Hey don't live a lie, come to terms with who you are!"
a Crystal Methodist?
He's nothing more than a sell-out to Mammon.
Every person has his price--Judas' was
30 pieces of silver.
Let's hope this is the last we see of Ted.
"Blinded by the Right" when he was a paid hitman for the republican smear machine.
"..I felt like a Jew in Hitler's Army"
It doesn't seem to make any sense why or how someone who is gay could be a republican. That's like selling your parents or kids for drug money.
I must read this:
Brock
Wouldn't most people so disgraced by their own hipocracy retreat to private life and stay out of the public eye. All this does is continue to embarrass his wife and children. This is pure selfishness for a buck.
He's used to singing for his supper, it's kind of his forte. It's all he really knows how to do
This is 'religion' we're talking about. It's not supposed to make sense.
...he can't stop tweaking or writing. Too funny...
"Can I get an 'Amen'?"
When you can no longer bleed the righteous, you move on to the 'liberal media'.
This guy made money denying the truth and now will make money telling it. Two versions...two paychecks.
He's like the Pete Rose of Religion.
I'm thinking that a 7-11 job would be a good thing for this asshole.
Wasn't this asshole also anally raping his wife every night while she slept? Or was that some other sicko preacher?
...how does one anally rape one's wife every night while she sleeps? I would have to think penetration would cause one to awaken.
...an eenie weenie peenie.
Dr. David Hager! Dubya appointed him to the Advisory Committee for Reproductive Health Drugs, even though he wanted women to have no say in their reproductive choices.
Man, is Jesus( who isn't a Christian, especially like Ted) gonna be pissed to find out that Teddy-Boy has been talking his words totally in VAIN! You shouldn't use Jesus's words "in vain". It's not good. But, to find out that Jesus's big message was AGAINST HIPOCRITS! He couldn't stand HIPOCRITS! And with what Haggard is doing is total hipocracy. That'll piss-off Jesus (who is known to have a slight temper....see the "moneychangers". Oh....Haggard is also a "moneychanger"...Maybe Ted don't like Jesus at all. You know, like one of those "demonic christians"( as opposed to a "messanic Christian")...you know the kind of preacher that teaches fear and hate....Either way: this has gotta piss-off Jesus. I wouldn't want to be there for that!
the structure of his face... But doesn't he ALWAYS appear to be sneering?
Actually, you can. People that always scowl develop a perma-scowl. Ever noticed? There's no light in his eyes. Know what I mean.
Just look at Cheney. Poster child for your comment.
...is that he calls himself " a loser". He's still struggling with his sexuality instead of just coming to terms with and accepting it. Leave it to a Republican to try to change the forces of nature, even one's internal nature. He's not even worth parody at this point.
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Ho, ho, ho. Enjoy and happy holidays.
Of course they think whatever they say is okay. I have a Rick Warren defender telling me he's had the same two suits for 16 years. For some reason, say, dense quality of cerebrum, the defender never considered that Warren has grown a couple of sizes in those years. My, my, my,.....
a whole bunch of lovely Hawaiian print shirts, though!!! And, I must, say he just looks so .....>>>.. dashing when he wears them. Makes Cheney's heart go all a flutter...
That's his defibrillator
Doesn't work though
He still fibbs.
Ted will do anything for quick cash. He knows people can always be sucked in and he is just doing what others did before him. America has lost the real meaning of religian long ago. Rich Warren is a Preacher he's just a man saying what he thinks and people listen. People condemned Obama who went to a church were the Paster went off on our countries good and bad facts. No body left that church following on thing Rev. Wright said. Look at the Catholtic Church who orders woman not to take birth control pills yet 98 per cent take them. History has shown quacks using the bible for greed. Funny as when the US was founded blacks were slaves and black woman were raped all in the name of God. Jewish people have even changed the bible. God was said to have given them Israel but in time they moved out and when to make big money in other countries. Generations later they come back to clain their land by saying God said it yesterday.
...sucked in....sucked off.....whatever.
I don't care if people are religious or not, but it's this damned hypocrisy which really irks me. It's the frgn' hatred that these 'tards show, for instance, against gays. Keep your damned religious beliefs away from me!
And, this guy was making $130,000 a year before the scandal broke???? I was raised Catholic, and went to a Jesuit high school....and while there are abuses in the Catholic church, and some of the higher ups live in lavish places like the Vatican, I don't think the every day Catholic/Jesuit priest makes $130,000 a year!
This is ridiculous, and this guy Haggard is an a'hole.
Vatican City
There is an equal age of consent set at 12 years of age in Art. 331 (1). When there is a relationship of dependence (like teacher/student, etc.) the age of consent is 15 years in Art. 331 (2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_...
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Ted will do anything, including violate his severance agreement, for a buck. I'm no fan of his former church but I hope someone there grows a pair and sues his sorry ass straight to hell.
Just like Haggard himself the HBO special will be just a waste of space.
Money. This is an obvious case of selling ones soul to the devil. In this particular case, HBO is the devil. Plus, who's going to watch a show when they already know how it's going to end?
All them flocks who paid to see The Passion?
Some people say Sean Cunningham (Friday the 13th) et al are working on a sequel to The Passion. Jesus comes back to life, and boy is he pissed!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWoHzL6n-w
ROFL :-D
I . . . can't . . WAIT!
to ... hee hee . . see this . .. mess!!
I'm just surprised Obama's not inviting him to speak at the inauguration.
Tee he he. (Got me by surprise there.)
Ted's pitiful, God bless him. He and all the other pitiful characters who paraded themselves as conservatives will soon probably be liberals. Foucault says we willingly give our power away for microrelational reasons.. Ted traded for sex and drugs, Ruth on the Independent Lense (PBS) show on Holocaust perpetrators traded hers for the lifestyle of a trophy wife.. Many are tempted, few of us(hopefully) choose. Democracy requires vigilance. My hope for the New Year and New Administration is integrity.
They don't see this as hypocracy, but as a moral object lesson. That all, high-and-low are sinners in need of divine forgiveness.
So the most stainless and virtuous Pagan or Heathen are deserving of torture for all eternity in hell, while sinners who are "forgiven" are given paradise.
and everything is new again.
I wish the freaking Rhapsody thing were real and would happen already and take them all away.
The world will be so much better with all the crazies gone.
That Rapture which is technically called Millenialism is considered bad theology by mainstream churches, and unBiblical, because it seems to contradict the Final Judgment doctrine, which is supposedly to happen with the Second Coming. It's most recent proponent couldn't sell the idea in England and had to come to the US to find takers.
They're selling the idea that as soon as the temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem and all the children if Israel have returned then the Rapture will happen, they'll all be swept up and avoid the 'tribulations'. Hard times will be for the rest of the poor suckers, not them.
In reality Scripture reads the tribulations happen first, Rapture second. The last laugh will be on them.
I didn't want to go into the amillenialism, premillienialism, postmillenialism argument about the timing of the rapture and the tribulations because I'd probably be boring. Some argue that according to the Bible the raptured will return after the tribulations to repopulate a new earth, rather than float around in heaven playing harps and eating angel food cake, which I am sure is hell to Jimi Hendrix.
...I'd love to see the "rhapsody" happen tomorrow. Then all of us regular folk could enjoy the beauties of Mother Earth: plenty of water and food, no energy shortages, no traffic jams, great health care etc.,etc.,
And, no more proselytizing freaks knocking at my door.
The Rapture is supposed to occur when the Anti-Christ is in power, causing war and devastation, the "saved" are whisked away to avoid the final cataclysm that would destroy the planet, and most unBiblically of all, the "damned" are simply destroyed, not tried and sent to Hell.
I would imagine the all-knowing-god has a list of who's naughty and who's nice (from the heart, not just "sorry"-- for cash.) No fooling him. Beware.
How come this "person" gets an HBO special, and regular gay couples who are just wanting to get married and have a life together get all that taken away?
I smell another attempt at conservative history revisioning.
i aint gonna watch
Maybe we will learn that he was sucking off Rick Warren for years before ole Ted was cured of the gay.
"What could we possibly learn about this religious hypocrite"
Who is we? Are you insinuating that the World's people know? Is he a bigot or merely a sinner? Why did the catholic elite, theoretically shuffle their perverted subordinates. Was it an attempt to dim the light of day too their actions? How did the truth come too light? I would contend, that it's a fact, that it was do to exposure. One by one, the truth came out, then a few more and some after that...
Was it looked at, as merely a sin or was it an attempt to stifle exposure, with all of it's related ramifications legal, ethical or possibly Congregational?
Now would you say it's prudent to hide or show the likes of an individual such as Rev. Ted Haggard? Is it fair to say all his admires and collegial associates share his exact views. It's of my own opinion, that many often act reflexively out of compassion for our fellow human beings' primarily with those who share our thoughts' and feeling which are not always mutually exclusive.
You cannot prove to him that his beliefs or actions are wrong. Our "Laws" are the only thing that can partition same and condemn likewise. I would go as far as to say, what is the difference between (Homophobia)&(Phobia)? Some people err in their acts unmindful or mindful of the consequence, as it relates to the laws of our land(s).
In ending, I will say with all due respect, we have all been hypocrites at one time or another and anyone who denies such, speaks for itself...
I will state, that I believe religion is tantamount to the greatest weapon ever created and it is a travesty to mankind! (no pun-intended)
The picture you think of, is created in the mind's eye. The picture you hold, is held in your heart... The beauty is in the caring. "We The People" are a collage of individual pictures. I think we can touch up the drips, without destroying the collage. Granted this Comment may appear eccentric or odd, though I'd venture too say, it provokes many different opinion(s), at least as many as who are exposed to it. Best wishes
Amended: As far as democrat and republican goes, the labels are left to interpretation and cause unnecessary divide. Exposed > Ted Haggard - Richard Dawkins Interview Uncut? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBC5L6cyq2Y
He, himself, wants to do the 'recreation' of his encounter with the meth massage dude.
/just for the sake of accuracy.
All one needs to do is watch him for a minute, to see he is a phony piece of shit. I agree with truth critic, religion is a WMD and has killed more people than smallpox. It has done more to hold down the advancement of humans than anything else one could think of, using fear of one sort or another or just plain murder. If the magical being loves us so much,why has it done nothing about its followers killing and promoting wars. Everyone should watch a little bit (all you can stand) of the cbn, everyone waving their arms over their heads, eyes closed, swaying back and forth, and to say nothing about the crazy shit they spew out. The great and powerful magical being has spoken, spare me. Haggard is a creep of the lowest kind. To mick piobr, "crystal methodist" too funny, spilled my coffie laughing. CEO,citizens,eyes,open
He's probably a better cock sucker than a minister.
All the bigoted, hateful, FAKE Religious Reslugs are born devoid of shame and conscience.
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