Why is Cable TV airing Cheney's speech opposite of President Obama's?
By John Amato Wednesday May 20, 2009 4:00pm
Well, folks, they've done it again. Cable news has now elevated Dick Cheney to a place as high as our new commander in chief.
WTF is wrong with these people? When Al Gore gave speeches after a few years, they would be broadcast on CSPAN because the Bushies were in charge, but obviously the networks want this to be the tale of the Duel Between Dick Cheney and Barack Obama. One is a disgraced former vice president, a torture lover who lied us into two wars and has a lower approval rating than people who identify as Republicans, vs. President Barack Obama, one of the most popular leaders of the free world and the man in charge of cleaning up the mess Cheney and Bush left in their wake.
Looks like Dick Cheney’s big national security speech at the American Enterprise Institute tomorrow is going to get wall-to-wall cable coverage — giving a major assist to those who hope that his speech will be seen as “dueling” with the one that Obama is planning to give on the same topic tomorrow.
Both CNN and MSNBC will be carrying Cheney’s speech live tomorrow, in addition to carrying Obama’s, spokespeople for both networks confirm to me, barring the intrusion of some major news event. Fox News will certainly be all over the Cheney speech tomorrow — a major cataclysm couldn’t tear them away from such a big moment. So that means roadblocked cable coverage for Cheney.
Obama is set to deliver his big speech on national security at 10 A.M. Cheney’s is set to follow at 10:45. Politico framed the story of tomorrow’s speeches in advance in a piece called: “Barack Obama, Dick Cheney plan dueling speeches.”
This, naturally, raised some hackles on the left, where people pointed out that Obama is the Commander in Chief, meaning his national security views have real-world significance, while Dick Cheney is a private citizen who only has his reputation at stake.In other words, goes this argument, their speeches will only be “dueling” if folks in the media make the decision to present them that way. Republicans, meanwhile, hope that coverage does proceed along these lines, helping to elevate Cheney and taking down Obama a peg or two.
Greg Sargent does a wonderful job as usual. Looks like the cable newsmen have already made the call.
Cheney's speech is a side show at a carnival act because the Republicans would rather try to rebrand the Democratic party as socialists while President Obama's words impact the entire world, but the media heads are only looking for their favorite selling point: "Conflict"
Yes, that sounds about equal. They want this to be Frazier and Ali, but it's about a liar and a sadist getting free airtime to attack a president who is trying to restore the country's footing after eight years of "compassionate conservatism." Wars, death, torture, wiretapping, loyalty oaths and moles planted in every department of the government which includes the OLC (the arm of the government that the Bushies used to try and give them legal cover for the crimes they committed) are part of Cheney's legacy. Isn't this just what the country needs? To hear a man trying to repair a record of death and destruction with blood dripping from his hands. To be continued....
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Delusional mofo.
in Iraq?
in Afghanistan?
in Congress?
Oh, yeah...change...
God damn liberal media!
I'm surprised they're airing Obama's speech at all. Good thing they didn't overlap, otherwise Obama would be SOL.
if the President runs "long" you know damn well they'll cut to Cheney's speech.
I was thinking that it would be great if O "ran late" and didn't start his speech until 10:30 or so.
. Fine with me!
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Nothing excites a Republican more than to stick their Dick in everyones face - especially Obamas. heh heh
When you've got the worlds biggest Dick - why not?
Isn't there anyway to wipe that smirk off the DICK'S face????
That's Satan's dirty sanchez makin his lip twitch.
Corporations heavily favor the right, and the country suffers for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--K3X6rptE4
The more exposure Cheney gets the worse he looks, the more he drags down the GOP, the more self-incriminating statements he makes ..
And in fact, seeing his foul tempered attitude immediately after Obama's cool has gotta favor Obama.
Not to say I don't agree that the Corporate Media sucks ..
Only here in the good ol u.s.a. do you find war criminals not only free to do as they please but the msm gives them a platform and airtime to address their illegal activity.
This country right now is a sh|thole.
Toledo?
John's right, the bottom line is that the MSM needs conflict to entertain.
The question is, will they satisfy their need for ratings and money by feeding the monster, or will the MSM move into a more 'watergate' or 'contra afair' kind of format, and find their conflict within the confines of law and order? I sure hope so.
The white Social Capitalist are still in Fear of President Obama, the coverage is NOT about the speech but about WHITE SUPREMACY, this is just another way of signaling we have not given uop the fight.
(RNC) Racist Nazi Committee, Is a Old White Mans clib and these Racist are doing Everything in there bother to circumvent and under mine a REAL President.
The media is about HATE and if there is no Bleed lead news, they will fabricate the news by using a Americaqn Traitor and giving him the same status as a REAL American.
............they have succeeded in undermining a sitting president.
Look out Charley Brown; he has a bigger future modeling for Jack-O'-Lanterns.
the president should follow in shoes of clinton and show up late.
maybe 45 minutes late.
Or simply postpone his speech until after Cheney has already begun.
Showing up late . . . I like that.
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who has so actively and aggressively taken up a cudgel against the new President so soon after being removed from power with so much animosity? I keep hoping his pace-maker fails.
"We" made a big mistake thinking the Bushevikki were stupid, arrogant criminals. Well, they are arrogant criminals, but they aren't stupid, and I cannot say why, but I have deep misgivings that they are poised to move against democracy, and soon: at the next terror attack.
When?
Whenever they choose, I fear...They're batting a THOUSAND, right now...
Yeah, that liberal media is at it again. Giving this war criminal ( and the real previous president) any more air time is truly sickening.
with villains like this for leaders that party is going nowhere but nowhere. this old fool is the cause of a lot of sorrows and he is arrogantly unrepentant. no one should have any more use for him. the only undisclosed location he deserves is an unmarked spot 6 feet under. hed get there via natural causes of course.
I don't agree with the people who keep saying "Keep Cheney talking" as he will sink the GOP. For 1. I don't think that's going to happen and 2. he should be treated like Milosevic: put on trial and convicted, not free to spread his hate.
I'd prefer Cheney STFU .. but .. as long as he's gonna go on talking I'm gonna go on pointing out the advantages of him running his mouth ..
:)
Maybe his tongue will trip him up. The more Cheney talks, the better.
ya - take all the sound bites and play them end to end, then sort them according to inconsistency.
Obama is one of the most popular leaders in the free world.
So this is the "free world"?
Love the face shot. Classic! They say that by age 50 you get the face you deserve. Nature and his weak twisted heart have been trying do him in for years, but modern medical technology can be a double-bladed scalpel.
Giving Martin Borman air time after the war.
Well, his reputation and millions and millions and millions of dollars.
I think "Dick" really would like to take the leadership position in the GOP. Danged if the evil f*ck is well placed to do it too...
You knew the answer to the title question before you even posted it...
I don't know if anyone will pay attention. But what scares me is that Dick acts as if he would do anything to get his way. Anything. Mwa-ha-ha-ha. Only it's not funny.
Who honestly believes that people are listening to Cheney. Eight years and the only thing we got from Cheney was 9/11, silence and he disappears. All of the sudden he's the voice of of the GOP? Really? This is a gift to the
"Democratic Socialist Party" <-----That was too.
It's actually the "Democrat socialist party" that they would like to call it.
There is sufficient reason to believe that this man committed numerous felonies, and there must be grounds enough for a simple arrest. Wouldn't it make for great TV if immediately after his speech, and while the cameras are still rolling, that Federal marshals suddenly appear, handcuff him, and cart him away to some DISCLOSED location?
n/t
So he can cover up their crimes.
In the new book "Dark Side", dick lost it after 9/11.
http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/39740
WHEN will people admit it. Obama is a fraud.
reminds me of McCain's comment about rape, "As long as it's inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it."
This, naturally, raised some hackles on the left, where people pointed out that Obama is the Commander in Chief, meaning his national security views have real-world significance, while Dick Cheney is a private citizen who only has his reputation at stake.
Not just a private citizen, but a man who seems to be habitually lurking nearby whenever any shady and potentially illegal stuff happens.
For 8 years when his job was to serve the American people he was like a cockroach lurking in the dark corners, or as he put it "working on the dark side, if you will".
Now he is spewing his propaganda non-stop.
This is a guy who along with his 'people'/staff in 2001 had secret meetings with the energy industry and was in charge of the White House terrorism task force before 9/11 (he held zero meetings on terrorism), in 2002 leaked false stories to the media to lead us into Iraq and then did a media blitz siting those same false stories that his staff planted in the media, in 2003 outed a CIA operative who was working undercover on WMD's, in 2004 shot his friend in the face and all throughout his tenure did everything he could to enable his old company, Haliburton to rip off the American taxpayer and enable their subsidy KBR to electrocute American soldiers with shoddy work and make them sick with substandard water.
Now this cockroach is redoing the media blitz just like he did in 2002.
BUT YET, the corporate media does everything possible to facilitate his promoting his lies and undermine the sitting POTUS, what does that say about them?
Remember the whole Al-Qaeda-Iraq-WMD's fraud is bookended by crimes:
The burglary of the Niger embassy in Italy in 2001 to provide the letterhead for the forged yellowcake documents....
and last week's "suicide" in a Libyan jail of the star witness and provider of the evidence of the Al-Qaeda-Iraq-WMD connection , yeah that's right in LIBYA that shining model of liberty and justice.
The list of Cheney's crimes is truly astonishing. The media's complicity in them is just as bad.
Mind-boggling.
YEAH! You've got that right! I can't believe that an American media person can get on their show and actually defend torture! It's no different then if they were defending child rape! Or defending the 9/11 attacks! ALL of those crimes - torture, child rape, and flying highjacked planes into buildings are in the SAME catagory under OUR laws!!! How frigging sick and anti-American are these scum that can stand in front of a television camera and promote these kinds of crimes?
Great post. Thanks.
If people switch back and forth, they can see the tremendous difference between this man and that monster. Dick is already loved by his core. That'll never change. But people on the fence or just not knowledgeable enough could be pulled out of the hell-mouth before Dick consumes them.
Why be a Richard when you can be a Dick?
EPN
GODISNOWHERE
We gave up all television over 15 years ago. These shows shamelessly force their self-serving corporatist swill on the viewers. Vomit.
We've never missed it.
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Must be peaceful keeping all that outrageous corporate spin out of your life. I wish more Americans would vote with their pocket book and cancel cable. The only way to learn the truth about what is happening in this world is to work at it by reading and comparing online. It's harder than watching Olberman or Maddow, but much more rewarding and reliable. M$NBC has Buchanon on 24/7 anyway and that troglodyte Scarboro on as an early morning corporate brainwash. I question their status as liberal's Faux Noise alternative. Good move in not watching the spin, congrats.
The ignorant dumb f*ck is going to hang himself even further. HE KNOWS he is in the sights, and besides, WHO GIVES A RAT'S ASS what this treacherous son-of-a-bitch has to say?? ...except for his right wing nut cake fan club.
It will be no worse than having jindal giving his follow up after the State of the Union speech.
I look forward to it. Open the can of worms a little further, you twisted spawn of Satan. Hang yourself good!
Stop with the Commander in Chief moniker please.
The 'wars' are illegal and should cease immediately.
ya the president is many things and commander in chief is only one of them after somebody screwed up. In this case the republicans under bush and cheney.
Cheney seems to have recently acquired so much energy and motivation. This seems like more than a policy battle
Is he worried about what might happen to him when the rest of the pictures, and don't forget the videotapes, come out? The ones that reportedly depict murder, rape and unspeakable sadism?
How about ordering the water boarding of al-Libi to get fabricated evidence connecting al-Queda to Saddam? Torture for political purposes. al-Libi is dead right?
How about ordering Scooter Libby and Rove to discredit Wilson by using information that he conned Chimpy into declassyfing (part of the NIE) so that he could blow an undercover CIA operative's cover to undermine truthful criticisms of fabricated evidence linking Saddam to the Nigerian yellow cake? And then helped Scooter obstruct justice by giving him "pointers" on how to respond to the FBI?
And how's that murder case in Texas with Gonzo and friends going?
I have to think that we have a man who is desperately trying to make a made dash from a jail cell.
It would be nice to get a list of everyone he ordered waterboarded and transported into the loving hands of a country that tortured the suspects.
You're absolutely right on all counts. It's a great strategy for any defense team to stage the client as a sympathetic figure, especially when you know that the client is guilty as hell of very serious crimes.
I can't imagine him saying anything to make me see him as a sympathetic figure. He could tell me that Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and Joseph Stalin were all holding his wife and daughter hostage and forcing him to act the way he has over the last 30 years. I still would hate that piece of filth and want to see him in a war crime trial.
Go ahead mr. 13%, tell me again how I should be afraid of my shadow and you are such a tough guy. You pathetic, five-deferment, chicken-hawk.
Who knows, maybe he'll go Budd Dwyer.
Let's face it. Americans don't like to beat up on old folk, no matter how evil one of them might prove to be. Unfortunately, the facts of the case won't matter. What will matter is that he appears to them as an old man (remember the wheelchair scene?)who was trying to do what was in his mind the right thing. Granted, it's all BS, but it's the kind of BS that sells to the average American. It's all theater at this point.
cheney is an outlaw. Who are they torturing on our behalf today?
When will it stop?
Frankly I see the entire torture issue, as it is being presented, as nothing more than a devious deception and diversion of the American public's being able to dwell on all the other crimes that Bush/Cheney committed during their reign of terror and destruction. There is so much more. The obvious available constraints to properly deal with those responsible for the other crimes as well as torture are gift wrapped for the guilty. To avoid exposure of the myriad of illegalities that may never be explored because of all the time and public capital expended on the unnecessarily arduous and road-blocked inquiries into the torture of humans by the United States government, military and private contractors.
I hate to tell them but some people haven't forgotten the poorly forged documents and the poorly done domestic propaganda in the lead up to the illegal war of aggression against Iraq. Nor the numerous illegal domestic violations of the Fourth Admendment. They are are tied together and I would think when they go to trial most of the crimes besides the torture will be addressed. That is the way the law is supposed to opperate anyway.
Can you even imagine what the reaction would be if Al Gore did this during Dubya's terms? The republicans would have gone ballistic. Yet now the Spineless Democrat Party (my suggestion to M. Steele) is too busy smelling their armpits trying to figure out why no one will listen to them anymore.
Torturers
Americans used to quite enjoy that
The msm are glorified ambulance chasers that revel in putting unchallenged lies on the airwaves to fill up their 24-hour news cycle
The repulsive and lazy lemmings in the msm must have forgotten that Cheney has been wrong on everything pertaining to our national security. This bogus debate should start and end with we got attacked under Cheney watch. Only thing Cheney should be on TV for is to watch his war crimes trail
Cheney for years was the silent, hidden puppetmaster in Bush's OZ.
Now, he's like the drunk guy at a party who corners you and won't shut up. I wish someone would put him back in his undisclosed location.
What a pathetic, desperate excuse for a man. His daughter was even given free reign on numerous cable shows to try to defend her daddy. What experience or credibility does she have? Note that they didn't send out his gay daughter to do that.
To borrow the words of GWBush in 2000 describing NY Times reporter Adam Clymer, Dick is a "major league asshole". To borrow Dick's response, which aptly describes himself, "Oh, yeah, he is. Big time."
Did anyone else think that Cheney in the wheelchair at Obama's inauguration was eerily similar to Blofeld from James Bond?
Apparently Cheney has used his superior power of persuasion to convice the press that he is still the president of the United States.
He thought we were kidding when we said we had elected a new black president. I simply cannot belive how much attention and "tv time" this dangerous maniac is given...along with the Newt who is equally repulsive. I hope the American people will finally say "ENOUGH! and demand that the media bring us real news and less, much less, of this disgusting political sensationalism that is meaningless and counterproductive.
The more Cheney talks the more he irks me and 60 million other voters. Obama won't get into a piss fight. Cheney failed to serve the people, the Constitution and country in his eight years.
Given Cheney's popularity I hope the madman keeps talking and that he becomes thee man for the Republican party . As for the media , no surprise , it's still the same MSM that was complicit in the crimes of the Bush / Cheney administration who all but destroyed this country as we know it . With few exceptions they have gone from being honorable , trustworthy and highly esteemed , from our protector and watch dog to whores , traitors and saboteurs , purely for profit corporations ( and individuals ) owned by the right wing . Greed has replaced honor and integrity . Thank God for the internet , and folks we had better protect a free internet or we are done for .
We have to fight like Hell to keep the Internet free. It's the last Bastion of Free Speech.
Cheney isn't talking to the American people.
He's talking to the terrorists--trying to make them mad. Trying to get them to prove that America is not safe under Obama.
Like Limbaugh, he wants to see America go down so he can blame it on Democrats.
and now rears his ugly head every day.
I can't remember a time when anybody cared so much about what any EX-vice-president had to say about anything.
Seriously, when did the media stop the presses to tune in to Dan Quayle?
Gore had to make a movie to get heard.
(that's supposed to be spoken in the Wicked Witch voice)
bamboozled, not just the ex VP but his daughter. tough guy has to have family members go on TV and defend his criminal actions.
Ok rightwingers, note which networks are airing Cheney and please stop referring to them as "liberal" media.
Obama ain't scared of minarets, is calm and cool, still relevant.
But Cheney likes to Shock and Awe, look at his distorted jaw,
What a craaazy pair!
Seriously, what the fuck does Cheney have to say that is so important that it needs to be aired against the President of the fucking USA?! I could understand if he was doing his perp walk or we were hearing his sentence handed down from the Hauge.
"You're all gonna' die!"
"I am your father Luke."
"Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies..."
Frankly Darth, I don't give a damn what you say!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJqPNpUhxPY&fe...
we could watch (on a loop) as he circles the drain like the turd he has always been.
(RNC) Racist Nazi Committee, salivates as its number one Coward and Spineless Anti American Freak again steps foward to gestate more of his Lies, Misinformastion and Hatred.
This Coward has to speak as the noose is tighting on his neck, and a Nation celebrates the death of a TRAITOR. Notice the fear thyis Spineless one evokes the Hatred (standard trade mark and misinformation), yeah the Circus is in town and the head Clown is center ring.
All of the current events, Pelosi, torture, O-bought-ma vs. Wilsons, Cheney, etc. all prove there is only 1 party in the US, the $$$money$$$ party. Nothing more.
Check comments on ABC's story.
At least someone's calling their shit.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comments?type=...
Nice catch, Rupert. Some of those are great!
You can't really slam the media for covering Cheney given that most progressive/liberal blogs like this one also give full attention to anything 'Tricky dick' Cheney says...
You are wrong I do not care what Dick Cheney think
The government playing the left right paradigm....First you sent out Obama to piss off the right by giving a speech claiming he's going to close gitmo( wink he's really not going to) they are going to keep torturing goat herders, rival clansman to the Peshmerga you know they are all out to kill you. Yes some are terrorist but some are not, but what do we care. We need an enemy with a face, we need the stans(Turkmenistan,Baluchistan,Waziristan etc.) and all their oil and gas. We have to connect that pipeline by any means necessary so watch out Pakistan you are our next target, Wait we've been targeting Pakistan for the past couple of months now.Our POTUS what a phony. We know he has to make a long drawn out speech every time the sheeple start seeing through his facade of "change we can believe in". Then you send out Dick "dart Vader" Cheney to piss off the left about how torturing is not wrong and it help us prevent another terrorist attack from a dead man(osama bin laden)and mix it all in what you got say it me now " Government propaganda at it's best".
Wake up people the government don't care about you, heck they don't even listen to you guys anymore. Be it the democrats or republicans guess what they don't care the are all bought and paid for by the same people. Protect the constitution and let liberty reign. The face maybe different but it's still smell like bush around the white house, scare,scare,scare the people until they give up all their rights without a blank of an eye.
"Liberty is when government is scared of the people"
"Tyranny is when the people are scared of the government".
End the Fed
Ron Paul 2012 That's my POTUS!!
I was absolutely FURIOUS to see Cheney on CNN and MSNBC this morning! That man should be told to STFU. He is NOT the VP. He's a mentally unbalanced old man and does not deserve one second of airtime. He has already harmed this country more than any other person in its history. The cable networks disgust me and I told them so!
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