Why do we have to hear Republican objections to health-care reform all day long on TV?
By John Amato Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 9:00amI just started watching the media again after missing a week and for every one Democratic politician on the air talking about health-care reform, I see two conservatives attacking it. Just an unscientific observation. What is that all about? OK, I know, but seriously, WTF?
Didn't they get trounced in the last election? Didn't John McCain's health care plan get soundly defeated in the last election?
I understand the need for members of the minority party to have their voices heard, but America JUST voted them out in large part because of the problems with health care. Why do we need to hear them all repeat the same talking points over and over again -- especially when their positions are those of such a whopping minority to boot?
It's shocking to me that the polling being done shows such solid support for the public option when they media is so biased. When that happens, you know Americans aren't buying the garbage being thrown at them.
And Blue America's Campaign For Health Care Choice is rocking the house. We've raised over $15K so far to go after Blanche Lincoln, and that's just the beginning.:
Perhaps it's not surprising that Lincoln is showing so much compassion for the poor insurance companies. She's taken hundreds of thousands of dollars from them over the years. In fact, she's already received $14,500 from insurance companies for her 2010 campaign, the second highest of any senator up for re-election next year.
We've received more small donations to our cause already than Lincoln has received from the health-care industrial complex to buy her vote. You know more money will be coming her way, but the response has been truly inspiring. Keep them coming. We'll need the cash to make the media buys in Arkansas to let her and her constituents know where she stands on the public option with your help.
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They love President Obama so much, they have Republicans on air every single minute of every single day bashing him on every issue - including his dates and hamburger condiments. There's less whining in a maternity ward.
btw, my condolences to you and your family.
Why do we have to hear Republican objections to health-care reform all day long on TV?
I'll take "Because this nation of ours is saturated in fascist GOP corporate ownerships that includes most media outlets" for $1000 Bob... FINAL ANSWER.
Have won $1000!
In lieu of a cash prize, a donation has been made in your name to the nearest Wall Street, Bank, or drug company CEO.
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What a sad world this would be if opponents were silenced until and only until they won the next election.
I think we are all looking for some balance.
I thought it was treason a few months ago... "free speech" zones and all. What changed?
1967sox...you have been called out as full of shit.
n/t
who were saying all those bad things about his idol Boosh.
Given what these idiots understood by "compassion" I don't even want to know what people like the previous poster think "freedom of speech" means...
What's sad is that's all we're hearing on the talk shows, not the side of the party that actually won the durned election.
exactly. let's hear from more reps in the ranks, not the old cast. The old cast has been around for years. ENOUGH! Did i sound like president Obama just there? ;)
Mebee you're tuned in to the wrong talk show. Tune in to Air America, like fifteen other folks. Har har har
well, except for the living, of course. They think we can find a way to finance some new, dastardly war adventure in the middle east or Asia, but screw those at home who need to see a doctor.
And if the AMA and the insurance companies oppose this measure, they stink, too. It must mean that it would make life better for all of us and curtail some of their profits and perks.
when thinking people were opposing the war in Iraq and the lies that got us there. Selective memory is such an interesting phenomena.
I'm also wondering why they still always pick a republican to represent an opponent when there are at least one or two other partys to consider if not just more independant politicians.
Tue, 06/23/2009 - 10:06 — Loath_GOP
Why do we have to hear Republican objections to health-care reform all day long on TV?
I'll take "Because this nation of ours is saturated in fascist GOP corporate ownerships that includes most media outlets" for $1000 Bob... FINAL ANSWER.
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to your local hospital and see how little you can afford.
Thanks to government mandates that your thousand dollars cover all manner of drug addicts, thugs, miscreants, and welfare recipients with filth diseases.
You're just putting labels, labels, labels on people. They're still people, jerk.
look who is selling out advertising bucks during news shows
DUH
Do you mean monopoly ownership of the MSM by the discreditted, discraced, and often criminal GOP? Snap! How did that happen? Anyway, it's gotta be fixed.
The mass media is simply the marketing wing of the corporations that run this country, just as the Congress is merely the policy and legal branch of the same corporations.
The media is a corporate communications tool.
Expecting anything but pro-corporatist propaganda from ANY mass media source, including PBS and NPR, is foolish.
No mass media entity has independent journalism. They merely have the appearance of journalism in order to lend credibility to their marketing personnel. Everything you hear from the mass media is designed to convey the corporate messages.
Stop expecting the media to do anything else. The media is doing its job, and doing its job well and competently. That's why they get paid so much money. The problem is simply that the media's job isn't what you apparently believe it to be.
No truer words have been spoken... My only slight disagreement is that occasionally PBS does run shows that question corporate authority to some extent.
I agree, and PBS might still be the way back for "the people" into TV. Imagine a real national talent show for example, free of corporate control.
These "Series of tubes" are indeed the last bastion of true freedom of speech.
And they get their stories either from each other or the MSM.
They are trying to change people's minds. Pure and simple. The problem is that 75% of the people want some king of public plan. No matter how much they try to tell us that we don't want it we know that we do want it. It's funny that the fuckers telling me that I don't want single payer of a public option all have very good insurance through their employer. The congress are the biggest hypocrites about this.
You have to expect the nay sayers to pull together all the worst aspects of the public plans from places like Canada and the UK to try and scare monger intimidate. That's democracy babay!!
...5 to 1. Since most Democrats have absolutely nothing worthwhile or interesting to say (I mean, who, left or right, wants to listen to DiFi, Conrad, Nelson, Lincoln, Reid, etc.) and since many of them are just acting like Republican Lite, why not offer the real thing?
Besides, it's possible a lot of Democrats would prefer to make themselves scarce at the moment -- after all, there is no reason to assume them want to call attention to the fact that they represent corporate interests over those of human constituents.
I'm watching the President and the reporters at the news conference. The President is swatting these ass hole reporters like flies. I expect to see a close up of one of them laying on the floor in the fetal position.
As for why the channels feel they have to have two people pissing on the healthcare plan to every one who isn't, it's because there are no missing blonde women right now and we know that somebody and Kate plus eight is definately getting a divorce. They have to create drama when they are just too lazy to be actual reporters.
The President also brought up the public health plan to be used as a tool to "discipline" private insurance companies, and by giving Americans options will effectively control skyrocketing health care rates.
Hardly the kind of talk of a man whoring for insurance companies.
I would hardly classify them as being even remotely "disciplinary" towards the HMOs.
This will be a battle.
... most of the so-called "public" options make things worse, much much worse.
Unless politicians make a clear case for what the end result of the reform is going to be, I am not willing to play the guess game.
Edit: agreed with surfjac, shouldn't a legislation which has the support of almost 80% of the population be a breeze not a battle?
Aren't there at least 51 Senators in DC who care?
What about the other 48? I guess they don't care whether their constituents live well or go broke because of health care or the lack thereof.
The problem with the 51 is this:
The so-called minority Repub party will almost ALWAYS vote in lock-step liked the mindless drones they are. The Dems or Repub-lite, almost NEVER vote as a block, it's the nature of the so-called Dem party. So even with a Dem majority, you still almost never get a majority.
and masterful chess skills need to come into play.
It would be inexcusable for the Dems to screw something like this with almost 80% of the popular opinion behind it.
..there isn't going to be a second term for Obama if this crap keeps up. Getting more D's in the House and Senate will be in jeopardy also come 2010 without listening to the 80%. What do we have to do to get things done 'round here?..March in the streets?..whaddya think this is?..Iran?
Don't they at least share the responsibility for any failures that occur?
What in hell is going on with Al Franken and the Republican obstructionists in MN???
Can somebody in the know give us an update? We REALLY need his vote!!!!
..nothing.
I'm sure something is going on and everyone is waiting for the Gov. to sign off, but I feel for Minnesotans with only the wackaloon Bachman in DC.
Thank you, POP.
Tue, 06/23/2009 - 10:37 — LeftandLeft
The President also brought up the public health plan to be used as a tool to "discipline" private insurance companies,
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because the MSM sucks.
oh...and slightly O/T...
it appears that Gov. Sanford disappeared just in time for "nekkid hikin day" on the good ol' Appalachian Trail...HA!
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/06/ap-governor-...
I leave the house without my cell phone. You can't really be nekkid if you go on the nekkid hike and you have your cell phone with you.
nekkid and naked is dontcha?
no
Nekkid is when yer doin naughty things.
And nude or au naturelle is when you're all arty-farty.
don't link to anything to illustrate.
Funny!
Nekkid is "Naked with intent"
QFT Indeed!
Or do I really want to know?
Suit-casing....
or keister stashing.
The MSM needs conflict. The fact that 72 percent of us SUPPORT health care reform WITH a public option? Borrrrrrr-ing! Get a couple Wingnuts on to yap about deficits (as if they suddenly MATTER) and SO-shul-izzm and BINGO! You got yer CONFLICT!!!
The the MSM would do what the VOTERS did and REJECT this nonsense, it would make for boring TV and better government.
Isn't this exactly what happened after Bush won and the R's took over in '02? Didn't the liberal media fall over backwards to give Democrats and liberals an opposing voice on all the stations? Oh wait, I must be remembering a dream I had. It was wall-to-wall conservatives and the occasional liberal chosen specifically to be a poor spokesperson. I think Paul Krugman gets pretty close to the truth in one of his latest blogs about Dan Froomkin. That and the fact that reporters make more money when they push conserative memes.
There is a reporter and I think his last name is Trapper or something like that. He made an ass hole crack about Spock when asking the President a question. I hope the President never calls on this jerk again.
I'm with you John but isn't that like asking why do the whores praise their pimps?
Symbiotic, corporate advertising relationship. Would you trust any report on the nightly news about any pharmaceutical drug when 75% of their advertising is pharmaceutical drugs?
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SCREW ALL OF US!!:
http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/140732...
I am not buying into their "Public Option" ruse. This is Obama's and Congress' sly way of making us think we may be actually "getting something".
The corporately controlled healthcare insurance companies are "complaining" about "The Public Option" because they want us to "think" it will really hurt them. It's about as much horseshit as the "Trigger" some Congresspersons were yacking about. "Let's not get hasty now! Let's just give the insurance corporations ONE MORE CHANCE to stop F'ing the American People. If in, say, three years, they haven't "come around" THEN we'll try "The Public Option".
All bandaids for a cancerous tumor. So far all The Public Option or The Trigger will do is allow the patient to suffer more and DIE!!!!
Enough of this already! Haven't we had enough of corporate America controlling the Congress?!
I am supporting Conyers H.R. 676, "MEDICARE FOR ALL" Universal Health Care and nothing else.
We had better get our acts together over the coming weeks. I have written letters to the head of Physicians for a National Health Program without a reply so far.
I just sent my National Lobbying idea to "Divided We Fail" but then I realized AARP is part of it and they are AGAINST Conyers H.R. 676!
If I had $70k to throw into a full page ad in The New York Times we could organize a National Day of Lobbying EASILY, but I do not have that kind of money.
It's sad that I am living in a country where I cannot find any activists/organizations to jump in and make this happen. It would take but 535 activists in the various local districts to place ads in their local papers announcing Town Hall Meetings on a "Medicare for All" program. From there representatives would be chosen to go to the local Congresspersons offices and the local media would cover the events. We need a NATIONAL, IN THEIR FACE, DIALOGUE ON HEALTH CARE THAT WILL TAKE THE CAMERAS AWAY FROM THE CORPORATE LOBBYISTS!!
I'll bet John Amato could easily find 535 activists right here on Crooksandliars to take leadership positions to make these Town Hall meetings happen.
What about it John? Will you help us organize??
Pretty please with Berkshires maple syrup on it? (We have a bumpercrop this season!)
Abbybwood, R.N.
HR676.ORG
Conyers: H.R. 676, “The United States National Health Care Act,”Or “Expanded & Improved Medicare For All”
Introduced by Rep. John Conyers, Jr.
PNHP: United States National Health Care Act (H.R. 676)
PNHP: 10 Myths About Canadian Health Care, Busted
does nothing but sell insurance. I have to laugh at people who think it is a pro-senior citizen non-profit lobbying group. Keep your $12 yearly fee in your pocket. That they charge you to read all the insurance ads is really insulting.
... but how the M$M is going to make up for the possible loss of HMO ad revenue if they go belly up under a single-payer system. Republicans (and plenty of Dems) are also appearing in order to make sure the same revenue stream for their campaign contributions remain intact.
Ergo the current display of synergy between the M$M and the Pols.
"Didn't they get trounced in the last election?"
To the villagers, Obama got elected only because they are angry at republicans.
Really, Mike? I think Obama got elected because he was the best person for the job that was running. The other reasons are peevish in nature at best. I think we saw an election where party was not really the issue, and that hasn't happened for a long time. People that weren't represented in the majority vote are grasping for reasons why and are lashing out because they just don't understand or are afraid of change, any change.
Jesus Christ...
Villagers = MSM
Finally, while the complex attitudes on health care reform do not easily reduce to a single question, the analysts at the Kaiser Foundation have one they are watching closely: whether Americans think their own families will be better off if major health reform legislation is enacted.
In September 1993, according to Kaiser President and CEO Drew Altman, a CNN/Time/Yankelovich poll in September 1993 found Americans divided on whether the Clinton plan would make them or their families better (20 percent) or worse off (21 percent), with the majority (57 percent) believing they would be unaffected. A year later, the percentage who thought they would be worse off had increased to 37 percent. Altman attributes the rise to a fear that "the Clinton proposal might force them out of their current health care arrangements."
The most recent Kaiser tracking survey finds 39 percent of Americans saying they would be better off "if the president and Congress passed health care reform," while 16 percent say they would be worse off. "The number to watch, then," say the Kaiser analysts, "may be the 36 percent who currently say health care reform wouldn't affect them at all."
http://www.nationaljournal.com/njonline/po_20...
if you have noticed the right has been telling the public they will lose their existing healthCare plan. people are polling/saying they believe their families/lives will be "better" with healthCare reform. a dramatic rise in "better" category since clinton days. the right is trying to influence people that already have healthCare ins. and how reform will affect them. that's why the new talking point has been you'll lose/could lose your existing plan.
Welcome back, John. Once again, sorry about your father. Hope you're doing better.
About health care on TV....I'm also sick and tired of seeing that punk crook Rick Scott in his "Conservatives for Patients' Rights" commercials. More people need to know about his background.
Of course, I'm sick of the right wing radio talk shows also spewing lies about Obama's plans, but what do you expect?
we have a far left media. I have one word for them. Bullshit.
They actually quoted (ins)Hannity this morning in their piece on media bias. He was ranting on about the death of professional journalism and they actually aired that crap - what a frickin joke!!
And that really sucks.
..about professional journalism or anything else for that matter? What was NPR thinking they were going to get asking a question about journalism from an entertainer and a bad one at that?
Its a world gone mad, I tell you!
on this planet are ruthless cons who have loyalty to no party or even country perhaps?
You've got a better average than I do then. I see about 10 Reps to every Dem.
Why do we have to hear Republican objections to health-care reform all day long on TV?
Because you haven't learned the big secret of ending the careers of these SOB liars.
TURN OFF YOUR TV. DON'T LISTEN. DON'T DISCUSS THEM. IGNORE THEM UNTO OBLIVION.
Move on with your own views and discussions and butt them out. That is what it will take.
And keep your PAY TV MONEY IN YOUR OWN POCKET. STOP PAYING THE ENEMY OF OUR COUNTRY. WE WANT FREEDOM AND OUR OWN PEOPLE PAY THE ENEMY. WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?
change the channel when the Republicans start spewing their BS. In turn, because they are constantly on the TV there is so little news worth watching. The cooking or decorating shows are better anyways.
Look how well that worked for John Kerry. ;)
I don't pay for TV but I'd sure like to listen to progressives on the radio. The only way I can do this is to subscribe to satellite radio, which I can't afford. How fair is that? Every single station I tune in to has rightwingers like Limbaugh, Medved, and Liddy. I can listen to some libs via Internet, but I don't have such access when I'm driving.
Yes, the network will claim it needs conflict and that is why we hear from repug hacks 85% of the time
-- but how about a different set of loonies this time. Why not some people who argue that we do not need a single payer system because we do not need health care! We just need to pray enough...
or a guest appearance by the village idiot...
oh wait, we already have that every day.
Their objections are transparently false. Let them appear transparently false.
Americans overwhelmingly demand health care reform and poll after poll shows them favoring a public option. Many polls even show that Americans want a single payer system. Let the Republicans prove to be obstructionists. Let them publicly announce that they don't care what Americans want and need.
The real problem is all the "centrist" Democrats who aren't listening to the American people either.
Identify one vote that was bought. What was the price? What was the vote? No nuancing allowed. Bring out the facts or quit lying to people.
So the HIC had no intention of influencing her votes with those donations? Get real..
All special interests seek those with whom they agree, Right or Left. That is not vote buying. It is not I who lie.
It is the subject, and I the mismanaged object of the sentence.
That should read, It is not me...
However, a sentence is in bad stylistic form if it starts with the word it, since it actually refers back to something too, unless the preceding sentence has the same subject.
try "as well" instead of "too" at the end of that sentence to alleviate any awkwardness with the to too's. It's a trick I learned from the English.
;}
dammit you changed it. oh well. this grammar policeman is a little slow this morning.
You're right about that, but in my case it was a clause not a sentence, but in either case would increase the clarity.
I can't write a grocery list in just one draft.
:-)
But I'm still waiting for John's answer.
It's not a difficult question.
Shouldn't you be waxing a Prius?
just a thought. you may to consider that you could be 'lying' to yourself or you're really naive. of course, you could be experiencing both. lawmakers of today and days gone by would just chuckle at your comment. senator durbin pointed this out during the credit card legislation. that senate is owned by the bankers. you may want to believe lobbyists and lawmakers are above human short comings but they are not. nice try though, with gootcha question but those who deal in reality understand reality.
The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 (BAPCPA), written by the credit card companies and presented as a bill by their proxies in the Congress.
Funny thing about that act: You and I would be forced to jump through many many hoops to file for Chapter 7 bankruptcy, but it exempted certain derivatives and financial transactions from provisions in the bankruptcy code that freeze a failed company's assets until a court decides how to apportion them among creditors.
Just three years before certain derivatives and financial transactions caused many of the banks behind those credit card companies to request a bailout- go figure.
There's this:
t.delay is a dirty player. he's the one who kept the vote open much longer than allowed for the non-bid medicare D option. i think i have that correct. very foolish to believe the 30k
lobbyists on k-street don't use their power/money to influence/write law. it's the capitalistic american way.
The vast majority of Americans are in favor of some form of public option if not single payer and yet obstructionist politicians who are all too willing to condemn Iran's supposed election irregularities stand in the way of the public will.
Obviously donations are an attempt to influence votes.
But most donors give to both sides, although the one they favor tend to get the greater amount.
What's difficult to prove is quid quo pro.
And the press no longer seems to pursue that as an issue.
Possibly since they're corporate controlled by the same corporations making sizeable donations of their own.
Sometimes though, the influence comes with voting blocs rather than money, the usual path of labor unions in the past.
interests of their biggest contributors and teach the world to sing in perfect harmony...
Cause business has EVERYTHING to lose in this battle and the GOP is the party of business.
Here's just ONE reason why we need to FIGHT to enact Conyers' H.R. 676:
From Reuters:
"Managed care stocks SURGED this week as the effort for an overhaul of the nation's health care system WOBBLED IN WASHINGTON.
And INVESTORS should get used to it because the back and forth on this issue will go well into the fall. INVESTORS have WORRIED for weeks about the possibility of a government payer being created to COMPETE with PRIVATE HEATLH INSURERS. That effort suffered setbacks this week, as committees working on bills fell behind schedule. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, meanwhile, estimated the cost would be $1 trillion over 10 years and still leave 37 MILLION PEOPLE UNINSURED.
"We are convinced more than ever that any significantly MARKET-CHANGING LEGISLATION STANDS LITTLE TO NO CHANCE OF PASSAGE, "BMO Capital Markets analyst Dave Shove said.
Among the WINNERS THIS WEEK: COVENTRY HEALTH CARE, CIGNA, HUMANA, WELL-POINT AND AETNA."
Had enough yet??
The ted stevens case was as close as one could get to an open-and-shut quid quo pro case of bribery, but it had to be thrown out due to prosecutors not sharing information with defenders during the discovery stage that may've theoretically aided the latter. However, just within the last week the Supreme Court denied prisoners the right to their own DNA samples to test with newer procedures at their own expense to prove their innocense.
Q: "Why do we have to hear Republican objections to health-care reform all day long on TV?"
A: We don't! [click]
They're not worth listening to, and if we ignore them and do the
rightcorrect thing anyway maybe they'll go away! It's just like that fat, gas bag, Limbaugh. Ignore him and he will have no audience, no platform, and no ad revenue!All the Republicans are trying to do is drum up hysteria and chaos, which they feed on to corrupt and get their own way. It's classic misdirection, except they're not in power now and can't really do anything while the people are distracted, so it ain't working!
Stay focused people!
This simple answer to this is that CNN, MSNBC and Fox thrive on conflict. They don't care about holding fire to politician’s feet. Wouldn't you like it for just once, Wolf Blitzer to ask, "But Congressman Boehner, aren't you just reciting talking points written by Republican political consultant Frank Luntz?" It would be fun to seem Boehner stumble over his tongue on that question.
There are so many "pros" and "happy" talking points to be said for a public healthcare plan that make sense. But there are alsoso many "negative" and "scary" talking points to be said for the mythical "government takeover of healthcare" which creates conflict, makes hearts palpitate faster and feeds on the anxiety of the American people which, unfortunately, is what keeps people tuned in to the cable news networks.
So it's not that MSM necessarily sides with Republicans on this issue. It's just that conflict feeds into the American psyche and more viewers translates to more revenue for the networks.
our 'liberal media' at work. Most of us knew that once a Democrat (and a black man at that!) was elected, that the media would attack incessantly. thay have not failed to deliver on that prophecy.
I know you know that, John, I just thought it bore repeating.
Thank you Thank you
Thank you for this post!!!!
It's very bad...
It's one of your best posts ever.
Americans need to be heard. It'll be interesting to see what happens at the public forum on ABC tomorrow night.
The healthcare situation is indeed "bad".
Thanks for everything you're doing to help fix it, John!
Simple:
because
the fix
is in
We're about to see a lot of kabuki theater and lots of "serious" analysis and then we'll get nothing and the politicians will pat themselves on the back for the "healthy debate" (ie circle jerk) they just engaged in
End of the day? You get sick, you pay.
Hopefully MediaMatters.org is compiling some statistics on that, but I suspect you're right. What's worse is that the media is not actually interested in reporting any NUMBERS, STUDIES or COMPARATIVE STATISTICS! Just the usual conservative vs. liberal caged shouting match for the sake of entertainment, with no real substance or information.
We need to pressure them to start inviting REAL EXPERTS on to their talk shows, like people from the Physicians for National Health group, instead of just getting Bill Bennet and Paul Begala to have a debate about health care, as if a couple of blowhard political advisors know their ass from their elbow in health care issues.
http://www.pnhp.org/single_payer_resources/pn...
We need to get HOWARD DEAN on the tube more often! He has the advantage of being both CORRECT on health care, AND being a good RATINGS GRABBER.
Did you see that Howard Dean has a new BOOK out on healthcare refore? We've got to start PLUGGING it!
- 5 mega media conglomerates control more than 90% of the information most Americans receive
- The corporate board members of those firms probably total less than 100 people
- The corporate boards members of those firms are, safe-to-say at least 98% republican
- What news division of those 5 firms in its right mind is going to air information considered by republicans to be unsympathetic to corporate interests? Answer: none
- Therefore more than 90% of the information that most Americans receive is pro-republican, pro-corporate interests, anti-democratic, anti-progressive, anti-average American.
- End of story. End of America as we knew it; irrespective of demographics or election results.
Tell me again why healthcare is BAD.
Losers.
Ya. Healthcare is important. Seems to me healthcare is one of those things you keep in the hands of the people, like all things important to national security. As far as i know, under the new plan, private companys can still play and compete just like before, and i want them to know, i'll be routing for them! Hhehehhh.
I have just spent the last 20 min reading all of your posts, and I have to say... WOW!!!! You all are clueless. None of you have spent anytime doing any research on the issues.
Point #1 The heathcare bill is cutting medicare. Not from the benifits, but from the way doctors and hospitals are payed.
a. This will lead to less doctors/hospitals being able to
accept this insurance, forcing the people on it to go on the
public option.
1. Which is not set up to be paid for in its current form
b. This is a government subsidised plan
1. This means the govenment will pay the difference
2. No provisions to stem the increase in carrier costs or
cost of services
c. This will be 20% of our tax revenues, which this year is at
a 2 trillion def. Let me spell that out for you
2,000,000,000,000.
So lets look at this from the point of common sense...
What major Government program runs the way it should?
Social Security? bankrupt
Welfare? filled with abuse
Education? Ranked 17th in industrial nations has the lowest return for dollars spent
Medicaid/medicare? Bankrupt, and filled with fraud.
The VA? as a veteran, I have to wait up to 6 months to be treated for my service related injuries. The level of care is subpar at best. So I welcome all of you to join my world. If it wasn't for the fact that I have my own health insurance, I would be in a great deal of pain.
So what the dems want to do is create another massive government program to be miss managed and filled with fraud. And when it doesn't work the way they want and starts tom fail, like SS, the VA, Medicare/caid what will the dems do? Throw more money at it. It is our governments solution for everything. Sending us deeper in to debt to foreign countries, and destroy our economy.
Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.
Is there a need for healthcare reform? YES!!!! But this is not it
[Speaking of clueless, this thread posted over two months ago. We've all moved on since. Let us know when you catch up-Sitemonitor]
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