Coming just days after the Obama administration released the OLC memos which justified the Bush administration's regime of detainee torture, a 200 page Senate Armed Services Committee report is producing a new wave of shocking revelations. As it turns out, intelligence and military officials were preparing the brutal interrogation program eight months before its approval by the Bush Justice Department. And in trying to sell the invasion of Iraq, the Bush torture team ordered the abuse of detainees to manufacture a link between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. But despite their failure to do so, President Bush and his water carriers continue to perpetuate that myth to this day.

As McClatchy reported, "the Bush administration applied relentless pressure on interrogators to use harsh methods on detainees in part to find evidence of cooperation between al Qaida and the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's regime." The effort to establish ties between Bin Laden and Saddam was ramped up in 2002 and early 2003 to provide "proof of the links between al Qaida and Iraq that (former Iraqi exile leader Ahmed) Chalabi and others had told them were there," according to according to a former senior U.S. intelligence official and a former Army psychiatrist:

"There was constant pressure on the intelligence agencies and the interrogators to do whatever it took to get that information out of the detainees, especially the few high-value ones we had, and when people kept coming up empty, they were told by Cheney's and Rumsfeld's people to push harder," he continued.

"Cheney's and Rumsfeld's people were told repeatedly, by CIA...and by others, that there wasn't any reliable intelligence that pointed to operational ties between bin Laden and Saddam, and that no such ties were likely because the two were fundamentally enemies, not allies"...

A former U.S. Army psychiatrist, Maj. Charles Burney, told Army investigators in 2006 that interrogators at the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detention facility were under "pressure" to produce evidence of ties between al Qaida and Iraq.

For her part, former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice insisted a month ago that "No one was arguing that Saddam Hussein somehow had something to do with 9/11." Of course, Rice wasn't the only one in the Bush White House contending "there were ties going on between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's regime," as she insisted as late as September 2006. Echoing President Bush's farewell address in January, former press secretary Ari Fleischer made the Saddam - September 11 connection just the previous week.

Fleischer used a March appearance with Chris Matthews on MSNBC's Hardball to display his gift for fiction regarding the Iraq war and 9/11:

"After September 11th having been hit once how could we take a chance that Saddam might strike again? And that's the threat that has been removed and I think we are all safer with that threat removed."

But if Fleischer was butchering history to justify the calamity in Iraq, he was only following George W. Bush's lead.

An unapologetic President Bush made that clear during his final address to the American people on January 15, 2009. Just days before his departure, Bush seamlessly wove the invasion of Iraq into his revisionist history of the aftermath of September 11, 2001:

"As the years passed, most Americans were able to return to life much as it had been before 9/11. But I never did. Every morning, I received a briefing on the threats to our nation. I vowed to do everything in my power to keep us safe...

...And with strong allies at our side, we have taken the fight to the terrorists and those who support them. Afghanistan has gone from a nation where the Taliban harbored al Qaeda and stoned women in the streets to a young democracy that is fighting terror and encouraging girls to go to school. Iraq has gone from a brutal dictatorship and a sworn enemy of America to an Arab democracy at the heart of the Middle East and a friend of the United States."

Of course, Bush's subtlety in January was nowhere on display during his jaw-dropping December 15, 2008 interview with ABC's Martha Raddatz. The President wasn't merely content to ignore the bipartisan 9/11 Commission's conclusion that Al Qaeda and Iraq had no "operational relationship." Boasting that "there have been no attacks since I have been president, since 9/11," the President simply dismissed any criticism that it was only his 2003 invasion which brought Al Qaeda forces to Iraq:

BUSH: One of the major theaters against al Qaeda turns out to have been Iraq. This is where al Qaeda said they were going to take their stand. This is where al Qaeda was hoping to take -

RADDATZ: But not until after the U.S. invaded.

BUSH: Yeah, that's right. So what? The point is that al Qaeda said they're going to take a stand. Well, first of all in the post-9/11 environment Saddam Hussein posed a threat. And then upon removal, al Qaeda decides to take a stand.

In an address ten days earlier to the Saban Center for Middle East Policy in Washington, DC, President Bush argued on December 5th that the truth should not be the lens through which his decision to invade Iraq should be viewed. Whether Saddam had actual connections to Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the September 11 calamity, he proclaimed, was virtually irrelevant:

"It is true, as I have said many times, that Saddam Hussein was not connected to the 9/11 attacks. But the decision to remove Saddam from power cannot be viewed in isolation from 9/11. In a world where terrorists armed with box cutters had just killed nearly 3,000 people, America had to decide whether we could tolerate a sworn enemy that acted belligerently, that supported terror, and that intelligence agencies around the world believed had weapons of mass destruction. It was clear to me, to members of both political parties, and to many leaders around the world that after 9/11, this was a risk we could not afford to take."

For his part, Dick Cheney (aided and abetted by his biographer and 9/11-Iraq fabulist Stephen Hayes) has continued to proclaim as fact the nonexistent Bin Laden-Hussein connection. (In March 2008, Cheney anticipated Bush's "so what?" response to Martha Raddatz, shrugging off her assertion that "two-thirds of Americans say it's not worth fighting" in Iraq by simply remarking, "So?") And in an interview with Jim Lehrer of the PBS News Hour on January 14, 2009, Vice President Cheney regurgitated his blatantly discredited claim about an Iraq-Al Qaeda nexus. Answering "I think so" when asked whether the 4500 Americans killed in Iraq was worth it, Cheney continued:

"He'd had a nuclear program in the past. He killed hundreds of thousands of his own people and he did have a relationship with al-Qaida. Now, we've had this debate, keeps people trying to conflate those arguments.

That's not to say that Saddam was responsible for 9/11; it is to say - as George Tenet, CIA director testified in open session in the Senate - that there was a relationship there that went back 10 years."

Of course, as ThinkProgress detailed, President Bush and Vice President Cheney throughout 2002 and 2003 warned of the mythical alliance between Saddam and Bin Laden. For example, on October 14, 2002, Bush announced that "We know that Iraq and Al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade." On the eve of the war, the President told Americans that Iraq "has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda." And as hostilities commenced, Cheney on March 21, 2003 decried Iraq as the "geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11."

As I documented back in June 2005, President Bush continued to nurture the false Iraq connection to 9/11 long after he grudgingly admitted on September 17, 2004 that "we've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th." Bush's intentional conflation of the two included the amazing June 18, 2005 statement that "we went to war [with Iraq] because we were attacked." By December 2008, Bush's linkage had morphed into the "risk we could not afford to take."

As it turns out, for George W. Bush the "risk we could not afford to take" was not averting war with Iraq, but the absence of a compelling sales pitch for it. And to be sure, Bush was in that regard quite successful. As an October 2003 PIPA survey showed, even after the invasion of Iraq, majorities of Americans continued to believe Bush administration claims about Saddam (Iraq role in 9/11, an alliance between Saddam and Al Qaeda, and Saddam's WMD) all long since proven false. (Unsurprisingly, viewers of Fox News were the most delusional.) And as late as July 2006, fully 50% of Americans still believed the discredited claim that Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction.

Those numbers sum up a dark chapter for American democracy. It shows what happens when the Republican leadership of the United States government is willing to torture human beings - and the truth - in pursuit of its agenda.

(This piece also appears at Perrspectives.)



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A batch of fresh hemp ropes please.

He's still pimping the same Iraq Al-qeida smoke screens. His legacy will be smoke screens and destructon.

)O(

With the first comment mentioning hemp, and you smoke screens, is there a party y'all can invite me to?

Soon there'll be dancing in the streets.
Right now the dough's a rising.

)O(

Shades of the Downing Street Memos?

Funny thing, shades is a fancy-schmancy way of saying ghosts.

This is why they are defending this so hard and attacking Obama even harder. They know they are guilty of war crimes. If they can deflect the attention onto Obama "making the country less safe" maybe they wont seem quite as guilty. A federal prison is too good for these people.

I hope the criminal profilers are watching the conspicuous actions and statements of bush and cheney, and right now in particlar the actions and words of republican leaders. They all have a big sign on their forehead that reads GUILTY of something.

They will do anything it takes to turn torture crimes into a partisan political issue. That's their only hope, and unfortunately it has probably worked in the past, if only in third world countries, up until the bushies came along that is.

...the best defense and all.

Although the Bushinistas are offensive, I just don't believe their offense is that good.

Viewing really...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055031/

Hint: Even Nazi's who 'followed orders' were punished.

Where's the Saddam rope?

Disclaimer I will fight to the death against anybody that wants to apply Capitol Punishment.

Rotting in prison w/o parole: PRICELESS

In a very restricted way, the way ALL hard core bad-assed, mass murdering, mighty mega criminals are treated -- 23 hours in a cell, 1 hour solo in the yard for exercise.

Lock 'em up and throw away the key!

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My problem with long term imprisonment is based on my lack of trust in future efforts by the Republicans, and fear they may find a way to pardon away these crimes.

Just because I wanted to show the love!
Thanks for letting me post here and my apologies for crossing the line.

[Thanks. No problem-Sitemonitor]

OMG, I am not sure the American people can stand the truth about the Bush Torture Regime. However, I think we are going to have to try to stomach it. Rachael Maddow did a good job of connecting the dots on her show tonight.

Missing in all this is the recognition that evidence obtained by torture is inadmissible in court. That means that Bush and Cheney had given up all respect for the rule of law.

surprise you? The scumbags were amazing adept at bypassing laws their entire time in power.

...they even bypassed them (laws) in order to get 'installed' in both 2000 and 2004! There's not a drop of morality, honesty, integrity, respect, etc., running through their veins.

What Cheney Did To Conservatism

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_dai...

written in 2005

p.s. yeah Rachel rocked tonight

Can you say Bush and the Neo-cons were duped by Chalabi (because it's what they wanted to hear)?

Why, yes you can!!

Anyone notice how stupid bush expects us to believe he is?
This will be his defense. "I'm stupid and it can't be a crime if i never though about it much as a crime"

..during the trial we will finally hear the truth...

CHENEY REALLY WAS THE PRESIDENT!

You nailed it.

The left is fairly certain that this was the case, but it will be a while before the rest of America is willing to accept that they had a puppet as POTUS.

When he was captured they were 9 and 11 I believe.The CIA was holding them and I remember reading they (the 2 boys) were tortured in front of him to make him talk.Those articles I can't find on google now.But I haven't heard what became of them and I was just wondering if they are still alive or not

Perhaps, because of their unfortunate ages (in juxtaposition) made them prime suspects in 9/11, in the eyes of the insane ideologues?

Google gets scrubbed all the time. Has been for years.

And, sadly, no, I have no answer to your question. What heartless bastards drove your nation under BushCo.

I'll keep looking as I have time

http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/blog/2009/...

More on the two missing children

http://www.dcdave.com/article5/070318.htm

people will say, thats bad,But when it comes to kids, that will do them in.

Whaaa? two boys were tortured in ... Whaaa?

??????? What it means? ?????

Notice how she didn't ask bush if he signed the papers that triggered the torture sessions. that seems a bit more important than his legacy plans!

There you have it. The Cheney administration tortured people until these people told the Cheney administration that there was a connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein (there was NO such connection). In other words they were tortured until they said that Saddam was behind 9-11.

How convenient!

)O(

John Travolta is sooo relieved he's no longer the nations boogy-man.

I thought that was KC and his sunshine band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOL6yZzezSo

I guess they've been supplanted by Dick C. and his Dark Minions.

)O(

Dementers?

Franken.......Lies & the Lying Liars who Tell Them....!!! When we get around to changing our laws to prevent this crap from happening in the future, perhaps we can require Presidential candidates and Congress critters and all others who aspire to elective office to take lie detector tests before being put on the ballot....or at the very least, undergo waterboarding for at least 15 minutes...!!

a psych test, they make people who want to be a cop take them and they only have one gun and cant start any wars.

On 9/10/01 Cheney & Bush proposed to cut U.S. Govt anti-terror funding by 50%.

On 9/12/01 they proposed to double it.

They had been made aware by the CIA of the threat posed by Al Qaeda to mainland USA on 8/6/01.

9/11 happened on their watch.

Epic Fail.

Then their reaction to 9/11 was a catastrophy. is a catastrophy.

..and lest anyone forget, Anthrax.
And, while largely not a conspiracy theorist, there should still be an investigation on who really sent out the Anthrax letters.

And numerous other (so called) Al Queda bombing all over the world

And not to mention this “Torture and abuse cost American lives,” the interrogator wrote. “I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of suicide bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq.

“It's no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/042009.html

The American public finally understood how incompetent this fucktard was when they started hauling dead Americans out of the water.

handling of 9/11 was an epic fail. Why were Cheney and Bushco so determined to torture? Sure, they're sick people, but they also must have understood how dangerous the course they were taking was--they tried to cover their asses with ludicrous legal "opinions." Today we hear that Cheney and Rumsfeld were pushing the torturers as hard as possible for confessions that "Al Qaeda" was working with Saddam--that they could connect Saddam to 9/11, and not incidentally, connect their "important" prisoners to 9/11. The only proof that Zubaydah and KSM were really involved with 9/11 comes from the same people who've been torturing them: The CIA and other allied intelligence agencies.
If Bushco had really wanted truth, they would have let the nation's best interrogators go after these guys, instead of ginning up a whole torture regime at risk to themselves. They didn't want the truth--they wanted false confessions. Today I remembered all those Arab men who were claimed to be among the 9/11 attackers, yet are still alive and well in various Arab countries. Their identities had been stolen. Someone created provably false identities for 9/11 attackers; someone tried to create false confessions of involvement in 9/11. Anyone else see where this is going?
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Concur. These people are consummate evil incarnate, but (and without delving into 9/11 and the twisting of DoD SERE techniques - I think these un-dead in-humans knew exactly what they were doing. I think their mistake was their own hubris thinking that they were "untouchable". As the dots continue to be collected, this trail of refuse will lead right back to PNAC and their original roadmap - Northwoods, which so infuriated JFK that he fired Gen. Limnitzer and began his dismantling and "scattering to the four winds" - the CIA. No, I fear Bushco, like those who founded the NSDAP in Germany, knew exactly what they were doing. After all Chimpy's grampy was a financier for them, Herr Kkkarl's grampy was a Gualeiter, herr "goood golly gosh Rumsfeldt has his own lineage.

why have they not poened up a NEW investagation on this. any in congress want to knoe the truth. I do. or they worred about what they will find out.

Kind of hard to get this genie back into the bottle. That is great news. Obama was right to release the memos.

The problem with these ideologues, is they keep looking for proof to back up their wild assertions. Then they have to lie about it. As new evidence comes forth, they have to change their stories/lies. It's hard to keep lies alive.

and big props to the ACLU for prying these documents free. I will give props to Obama for deciding not to redact the majority of the documents.

Yes, right. I can imagine what would be released, if any at all, if we had a PalinMcCain presidency.

I think McCain would have been inclined to release the entire mess right before his "death by natural causes". Palin/Rove would then have had the investigation squashed.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnTcCob_CkI&fe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCXFFSA3iIM&fe...

Take a listen, this is what we should be doing about torture. NOT what Obama is doing with the CIA.

I also encourage you to listen to part three, he talks about the drug war and sucession. Time to put aside the Left right bull...get the media programming out of your head.

How the hell do you know what Obama likes and dislikes?

You're citing Faux News?! Pul-leeze.

Get lost troll.

Your guy lost.

Our guy won.

End of story.

Try again in 2012.

Goodbye.

are so screwed.

Ed Shultz on the enemy within: Dick Cheney
http://jed-lewison.dailykos.com/

Why do we still care about what this guy says?

The Bush regime did more lasting damage to America than Al-queda. Obama was left with the task of digging us out of it and Cheney, along with Rush, hopes he fails.

You have to admit, watching Bush in that video is a testament of what the mind is capable of. There are so many things one could pull from that short segment. Van Sustren has reached the level of Hannity and Beck with this interview and the one with Rush.

As hard as I try to be objective, these people just amaze me. I just don't get how they can construct this worldview that they have. How does one arrive at these conclusions and beliefs they put forth?

It's a wonderful time to be a sociologist!

Are they born that way?
Can you cure them?

..federal penitentiary.

and there was a gang supporting and directing him and there were the usual syncophants deferring to them and there were the profiteers happily riding along.. there were people who were suppose to be in opposition who not only did not resist but who facilatated his behaviors because they also wanted something..

I guess one could say these human foibles have always been.. but certainly we've had them in spades this last eight years.. if we really honestly get into pinning responsibility, it's gonna be a long and bumpy ride..

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Q U E S T I O N:

Why do people keep asserting that there have been no attacks on America since 9/11 as if with all other presidents, they've let more than one happen?

Dear Mr. Bush,
You most certainly do fall into a unique category...
... Very few presidents have let their Nation be attacked on their watch. Very few indeed. In fact, the majority of past presidents have had to endure ZERO attacks on America soil by a foreign enemy.

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..media still talking about 9/11 while you were Dictator not to mention the Anthrax. Can't really excape history now can you?

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Gee, if I didn't know any better, it would sure seem that Cheney and co. might have had something to do with 9/11.......

..Whoops, I mean, torture knowing full well that torture doesn't produce credible proof and the victim will say anything to stop the torture. This way, when the victim finally figures it out that an Iraq/al Qaeda is what the torturers are after, he lies and tells them, Oh yeah, Saddam and OBL, like skin-tight, brothers, hand-in-hand walks through the fig trees and what ever.

Let the Prosecutions Begin!

Dumbya and the his obstructionist liars are just flapping their gums to NO Avail. Nobody believed him then and certainly not now with the damning evidence coming out.

They (BushCo) either let 9/11 happen or were directly complicit in planning the attack...maybe Bush can plead insanity. Last I heard, Oklahoma and Idaho still offer execution by firing squad.

And yet these terrorist traitors are still freely walking among us.

Like they will live free as a bird to do it all again in the near future,Maybe even get a medal for their crimes and treason

We are witnessing on a very large scale what happens when you rely on lies to win.

Eventually the practice of telling another lie to cover up a previous one gets the best of you and everything falls apart around your head and shoulders.

Bush is a victim of his own dishonesty, and the country is now a witness to the most dishonest administration in the history of this republic.

Those associated with the administration are now forced to continue their dishonest strategy, and have no choice but to continue perpetuating lie after lie after lie.

I hope that at long last the truth will come out and the guilty will pay for their actions. The cost to this county (if that does not happen) will be far greater than the cost of full disclosure to us and to the world.

As always, honesty is the best policy!

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