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There are some moments on TV that should just be sent to the cutting room floor before they ever hit the screen. This is one of them.

Elisabeth Hasselbeck proves that she doesn't listen, she doesn't think, and she's as much of a troll as Breitbart when she wants to be.

This is a classic example of what I keep ranting about. There's no issue here, and anyone with half a brain knows it. But Hasselbeck concern trolls over the Hatch Act (inapplicable to the speech and group Sherrod was speaking to) as if it is the NEXT HORRIBLE RACIST THING.

Transcript:

HASSELBECK: There's another bit from your speech that's actually raising a second wave of controversy.

[from clip, SHERROD:]I haven't seen such a mean-spirited people as i've seen lately over this issue of health care. now we endured 8 years of the Bushes and we didn't do the stuff these Republicans are doing because you have a black President.

HASSELBECK: So what about that epiphany, where is that epiphany where it's not about color and it's not about race. What do you then say?

SHERROD: You know, why is it that there's such opposition to something that's so important to poor people. Again, I'm coming at it from the angle of poor people. Poor people need health care!

[applause]

HASSELBECK: And i hear you because I listened to your entire speech and I read the entire transcript but when someone listens to that they're thinking 'yeah, well all of a sudden it's back to black and white, why did we have to get there' .

And then is it also because being a civil servant are you not allowed to have such a partisan opinion? I thought --

[crosstalk]

-- I thought that was not okay.

SHERROD: Poor white people need health care too. You know, so I wasn't talking about health care for just black people. I'm talking about health care for poor people. I know what happens to folks who don't get a chance to go to doctors. I know what's happening to hospitals and their emergency rooms with all of the load of dealing with the person after it's too late.

WENTWORTH: It's too bad, and I know we're going to come back and talk with you again, but it's too bad everything has to immediately take the road of racism. It's poverty. Poverty.

GOLDBERG: Hang on a second -- this is going to be great. you won't forget it.

[break]

After the break and re-intro, Hasselbeck gets another chance at the well of the Concern Trolls:

HASSELBECK: You know, we had just shown a clip where the tail end of it you say "we endured 8 years of the Bushes and we didn't do the stuff the Republicans are doing because we have a black President." Second part of my question: Doesn't the Hatch Act prohibit civil servants from making partisan and political statements? SO isn't that reason enough to look into okay, is this something even legal going on?

Wow, isn't it really nice of Elisabeth Hasselbeck to be concerned that Shirley Sherrod might have violated the Hatch Act? And it certainly plays well to the Fox/Breitbart crowd out there who loves the "scary black person doing illegal and racist things" trope. Only, Elisabeth really didn't know what she was talking about, because the Hatch Act does not rob government employees of their First Amendment rights. It simply limits political activity while they are ON DUTY. Here's all you ever wanted to know about the Hatch Act from the Office of Special Counsel.

And once again, Shirley Sherrod puts Hasselbeck right back in her place:

SHERROD: You know, maybe the Hatch Act would have been meant only for me, because I don't know any government official who was gagged, especially during the Bush administration.

[applause]

BEHAR: You know, I want to support what Shirley said before, which is that during the Bush administration you had tax cuts for the wealthiest and he did not -- that whole adminiistration did not give a damn about poor people and everybody knows it. That's why Obama was elected in the first place.

[crosstalk]

-- and even now, Republicans are blocking an extension of unemployment insurance but they're okay with tax cuts to the wealthy --

[crosstalk]]

Let me finish. So now you have Obama in office, and he does give a damn about black people

HASSELBECK: Black/white or rich/poor? Which is it?

BEHAR: A lot of people are poor because they were black --

[crosstalk]]

HASSELBECK We're supposed to be postracial here --

[crosstalk]

GOLDBERG: There is no postracial yet. this was a media idea that sounded great, that sounded wonderful, but the truth is that these issues, these questions of race have never come up this way before because there has never been a black president before, so people are now trying to figure out how they feel, how they deal how they talk. this is a new world for us.

WENTWORTH: Obama has a very fine line to walk. I mean, can you imagine being the first black president having to deal with all these issues?

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The sad truth is she isn't an anomaly. I have met a lot people like her - not a thought in their heads, just parrot what is told to them. It boggles the mind that someone with no brains or talent has gotten as far as she has.

ricky's picture

It does address opinions.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

No it doesn't, how do you tell someone they are not allowed to have an opinion? Keep trying, maybe someday you'll be able to justify stupidity.

ron's picture

you missread ricky's snark.

docb's picture

Diversion is the wingnut tactic...This should have been about the outrageous drunk Breitboy and the edited tapes! Instead she changed the subject which should have been stopped by Whoopi...Do not think the blonde is stupid but hopelessly deluded! Now the fox woman on the other hand is a buffoon...

Peter G's picture

its' own justification, Ricky sucks at it. He is, on the other hand, rather good at snark for those that appreciate it in its' drier deadpan form.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

Excelsior's picture

people are entitled to an informed opinion. They are not entitled to be willfully ignorant and utterly stupid. That's just shameful.


There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits

chervilant's picture

and Harlan would be among the first to assert that anti-intellectualism is alive and thriving in this angst driven endless adolescence of humanity.

ixnay's picture

I'd say that snark is the bastard child of sarcasm after having a one night stand,down at the basement of the wit complex, with a mark.

Which means that the intelligence juice from a snarkberry is infinitively easier to extract for the reader, than it is to for the writer to inject it properly.

But I'd be damned if you just provided a counter example, for me to start reconsidering my position.


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

I cannot believe Elizabeth had the nerve to sit there and attack Shirley like that to her face. Wow. Elizabeth is so full of shit. To suggest that Shirley broke the law by having an opinion and expressing it is BS and she knows it.

Elizabeth has GOP tunnel vision and is stuck on her right wing talking points like glue.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

III. Permissible Political Activities by PAS Officials

If the following activities are undertaken, subject to reimbursement for any expenditure of government funds, PAS officials MAY:
• Take an active part in or manage a political campaign:
• While on official duty;
• In a room or building occupied in the discharge of official duties; or
• While wearing a uniform or official insignia identifying the individual's office or position.
• Attend and speak at political fundraisers but may not solicit contributions, funds or services.
• Publicly endorse candidates in their official capacity.
• Travel to campaign and political events.

Use of Government Cars: Under the Hatch Act, PAS officials may engage in political activity using a vehicle owned or leased by the Federal government. Under Departmental policy, however, only the Secretary may use a government vehicle while engaged in political activity, subject to reimbursement by the political sponsor.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Winski's picture

Why can't we just expose her as the brainless twit she is HASSEL"BECK"...nuf said..

How can we expose her any more than she already exposes HERSELF? It's not like there's any secret about the idiotic batshit lunacy she spouts.


There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits

This bitch oozes stupidity. She sure is pretty though. Just like that horrible person Megyn Kelly. Although Kelly is a bit smarter (even though she is misguided by trying to cater to the right wing smear machine.) than this... ah... errr... person(?).

I don't think she's pretty at all. She's plain and mousy with tons of make-up and her stupidity makes her ugly.

Stop falling for right wing eye candy. They do that on purpose. They know men use thier lower brain more than their upper brain. Don't take the bait.


far left loon >.<

Do you wanna know what is even more screwed up here? This thing is about Breitbart and Fox and what and why they did what they did. What Mrs. Sherrod did really is way beside the point. Why don't these "ladies" talk about Breitbart and Fox ?? Who knows maybe they did. It's not like I watch this show or anything. I'm too busy trying to keep an eye on C+L. LOLOLOL

karoli's picture

I heard about it and when I saw the clip, could not believe how incredibly stupid and evil she was. I'm waiting for my family members who do watch this crap to "school me" on the Hatch Act.

Honestly, I just want to slap these people into reality. So damn far out in right field they can't see the bases.

ysbaddaden's picture
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But they can see Alaska...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Yup. The same way Rachel Maddow slapped O'Reilly into reality in that clip earlier today.

I thought the real base was in left field and can't see it coming
because it is always coming in the back?


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

That's the worst problem with the right wing haters, they never admit that they are in the wrong, regardless of the evidence.

Hear that loud and clear!! Lived around it for a while... 'tilst I could stand no more!!!!

The Political Junkie's picture

looks like she's dying to join the rest of us waiting for the UI benefits to start up again.

If you're blonde, bimbo and sound intelligent, I guess that's all the credentials you need to be on television. Why the sistas on the View didn't take Hasselbeck's ass to the woodshed for attacking their guest is beyond the damned pale.

bushputz's picture

"If you're blonde, bimbo and sound intelligent, I guess that's all the credentials you need to be on television."

Obviously, sounding intelligent isn't mandatory...

"Sound intelligent"? She sounds like she hasn't a single brain cell in her head. Seems to me all you need to yammer on TV is to be blonde, a bimbo and sound STUPID. That's what gets these bunnies the work.


There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits

ysbaddaden's picture
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she belongs in a booby hatch.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

sixandseveneights's picture

"We're the bleached blonde bobby hatch"

Just another shrill talking point parroting empty headed conservablonde. She should be a Foxaganda anchor.

Samson-'s picture

Elizabeth Hasselbeck Plays Role She Was Hired For

ricky's picture

what Colmes was to Hannity.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

sixandseveneights's picture
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A pantywaist milquetoast? I was thinking she is to The View what Lou Costello was to Bud Abbott.

Peter G's picture

of what a right winger should be. Her job is to be out numbered.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

Embittered Angry Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1's picture
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Tim Wise: On White Privilege (Clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc&vi...

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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.

ron's picture

the name is appropriate.

Nixxon-sTheOne's picture

Does not prohibit anyone form expressing political opinions. If it did, it would be unconstitutional. It does prohibit certain public employees from certain participation in political parties; although this was substantially scaled back at the end of the last century.

Oddly, if Sherrod is subject to the Hatch Act at all, she is likely NOT an employee who can be fired "at will" as was done in this case. The Hatch Act principally covers lower ranking federal employees with respect to much political activity and lower ranking federal employees are civil service.

joke, you have to pull a "Hatch Act," or something else that sounds reasonable, out of your perky ass, to sound like you have an IQ higher than your waist size.
Why is this dim bulb even on TV?
How about the wives of the Mannings, or Brady.
Oh, that's right, they're still good quarterbacks, while this stupid shills husband's almost out the door.
Maybe when he goes, the'll kick her fucking ass out with him.

How does Behar not punch this fucking idiot in the head every day, trying to knock some sense in her? Or, at least break her jaw to shut her the fuck up...

the race of the person who killed her father in cold blood. Only entitled rich white people from comfy backgrounds can do that!

Apparently, when a white person overcomes his or her racial prejudices it should be lauded and celebrated, maybe a couple of book deals (or at the very least a very special Lifetime two part feature presentation) to describe in excruciating detail the "harrowing" ordeal which must be the process of stop hating minorities. When a black person does that, her career should be ended as a token of gratitude for her betterment as a person. We like our black people ignorant and submissive, we want none of that self confident educated uppityness.

Good grief, are we seriously that fucked up of a society?


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

yesnowhy's picture

Yep!

chervilant's picture

we're seriously that fucked up as a species. Here in the US, where education is purportedly a privilege, 40% of our adult population is functionally illiterate, and a significant percentage of the other 60% cannot comprehend most of what they can read. This drastic percentage of under- or uneducated citizens has been lapping up the bipartisan red herrings promulgated by the wealthy elite for quite some time now. Most are dangerously divisive, and far too many are well armed.

We are, indeed, a pathetic lot...

It's nice to see Sherrod has the wit to put the repug in her place.

follow the money's picture

My antennae shot up...I got one for you..the attorney scandal, here:

http://havenworks.com/us/attorneys/

read on..

sixandseveneights's picture
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They ought to vote her off The View

LeftandLeft's picture

Another dumb white bitch who longs for the days when white people controlled and framed every argument and colored folk dared not talk of such uppity things.

Minority Suppression: racist characteristic.

Big Boppa's picture
Wow

That Carlson pig on the faux morning show must be shitting a brick over the prospect of Hasselbeck losing her gig on The View. She's every bit the stupid blond that Carlson is with the youth and looks to make Ailes The Hut slobber all over his morning caviar.


I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....

...racial incidents unless they agree with the bigots. Racists demand to frame any race argument.

Hopeless evil fuckers so miss 1920.

Doug Watt's picture

Yet she has a million dollar a year job spouting Republican talking points. You could really see the hate in her eyes as she spit words at Sherrod.

Pete Seattle's picture

whites: 75% of populace
blacks: 12.5% of populace

those 1:7 odds really work in those 'scary' blacks favor, don't they?

Imichael's picture

Hasselbeck really thinks she is smart. I know husband who has played in the NFL for this many years can really think she is smart.

in the decision making process that led that jock to marry this Hasselbeck idiot.


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

ysbaddaden's picture
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It's all the head injuries...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mctBMLUQdsg


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

BillO and one of the blond attorney chicks from Fox talked about the Hatch Act. The blond attorney chick said what she said was in no way in violation of the Act. Maybe Lizzie needs to watch more BillO and talk less. Hiring her was as big a disaster as Ms Sherrod's firing.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

mausium's picture

Is used almost exclusively by racists these days.

Amitola's picture

it Should Not be either Black vs. White, nor Rich vs. Poor. It's supposed to be We The People, or did you miss that lesson in 5th grade??

And, you sweetie, have no business being allowed access to a microphone on a network TV show. Perhaps you should run for governor or senator somewhere, you seem to fit the mold.


"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy

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[Comment Deleted By Administration For Violation Of Terms Of Service]

BEHAR: You know, I want to support what Shirley said before, which is that during the Bush administration you had tax cuts for the wealthiest and he did not -- that whole adminiistration did not give a damn about poor people and everybody knows it. That's why Obama was elected in the first place.

[crosstalk]

-- and even now, Republicans are blocking an extension of unemployment insurance but they're okay with tax cuts to the wealthy --

[crosstalk]]

Let me finish. So now you have Obama in office, and he does give a damn about black people

HASSELBECK: Black/white or rich/poor? Which is it?

I'm not sure I get this. Does she think only black people are poor and on unemployment? Think again bitch! Race shouldn't even enter into that topic.


We could certainly slow the aging process down if it had to work its way through Congress.
- Will Rogers

Elizabeth Hasselbeck is a lightwieght both in the real sense and in the intellectual sense.

As far as the Hatch Act goes, Ms. Sherrod is not currently a Federal employee. Therefore, she can say whatever she wants. This is the current reality of the situation. The Hatch Act does not currently apply to Ms. Sherrod.

Christ, I would have fired that silly bitch's ass a long time ago. I mean, she's so freaking USELESS.


There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits

roxsteady's picture

last week when Kathy Griffing got under her skin. It was great. Kathy even asked her point blank if she had somthing else to say and Lizzie simply said, "No I'm good, I'm good". Lizzie is also very jealous of Erin Andrews who she trashed and then had to apologize to on the air. She also stated that she's called Erin but, when reporters asked Andrews about it, she said she hadn't spoken with her. What a lying bitch. She must have called her and left a message but, that's not what she said on the air. She just claimed she called her and apolozied. Now, Andrews who was a reporter for ESPN has now been hired to do reports for GMA. I'll just bet Lizzie is pissed that Andrews' profile is on the rise and her's isnt'. By the way Lizzie's husband Tim is not exactly a footballl hunk. In fact, he's balding and looks a lot older than he is. I guess she won't have to worry about him cheating on her. He'd likely have to pull a Vitter and pay someone.

roxsteady's picture

She's hilarious!

Another st00pid right-wing SKANK.


far left loon >.<

Elizabeth Hasselbeck knows about the Hatch Act? Hasselbeck had never even heard of the Hatch Act until some RW friend told her she could get Sherrod on a gotcha moment with it.


"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper

ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

JohnnyBravo's picture

to gain my respect, she instantly does something to lose it. Hasselbeck is full of crap.


NOBODY 2012

peachblossom's picture

Elisabeth has been kind of mellow and tolerable of late, so when I heard that question about the Hatch Act yesterday, my head just snapped around. Unless you really are going to work at being a decent commentator, stay in the shallow end, Elisabeth. Stop thinking that calling yourself a "mom" entitles you to a pass on facts or thought. Don't try to kid people with your papers and your oh-so-convenient research. And for heavens' sake, try to be appropriate and not insult a guest like Shirley Sherrod. Just wear the clothes, do a little art and be grateful you're getting paid for an easy gig, unlike the farmers in rural Georgia, about whom Shirley Sherrod knows a damned sight more than you.

chervilant's picture

is the primary reason I have never watched the view.

After reading this transcript, I can safely say I will NEVER watch that waste-of-time program.

markpkessinger's picture

For Elizabeth Hasselbeck to presume to lecture Shirley Sherrod about not being "post-racial" enough strikes me as the absolute zenith of impudence. When Hasselbeck has lived the experiences of Ms. Sherrod -- as a non-white person growing up in the apartheid South, whose father was murdered (shot in the back over a dispute concerning cows) by a white neighbor who was never held accountable, who experienced the Klan burning a cross in her yard, and now this, to be forced to resign in response to a race-baiting political hit piece -- maybe then would she be able to even approach the subject of whether a discussion is sufficiently post-racial with the likes of Ms. Sherrod. In the meantime, she would do well to remember that Ms. Sherrod is a moral giant; and Hasselbeck, not so much.


Mark P. Kessinger
New York, New York

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