I-580 Shooter's Targets: ACLU and Tides Foundation
Here's a rather disturbing update on Byron Williams, the liberal-hating, parolee right-wing crazy guy who opened fire on the CHP last weekend.
Via KGO:
Court documents released Tuesday say Williams told investigators he intended to start a revolution by traveling to San Francisco to kill people at the ACLU and the Tides Foundation, an organization that says it promotes economic justice.
"His plan was to go there and wait until it opens up in the morning; our investigators brought up to him that those organizations are probably closed on Sundays and he said he was going to wait until they opened up," Oakland Police Department spokesperson Jeff Thomason said.
Armed to the teeth, and as a third-striker, not particularly concerned with his fate, too:
When the officers tried to contact Williams, a 12-minute-long gun battle ensued. Williams, armed with three guns, including a .308-caliber rifle that can penetrate ballistic body armor and vehicles, eventually surrendered and exited the vehicle.
Williams was arraigned in Alameda County Superior Court Tuesday on four counts of attempted murder of a peace officer and being a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition. He received enhancements for wearing body armor. [Read more]
The Tides Foundation is George Soros' philanthropic charity, and the ACLU is, well, the ACLU. I wonder, what would cause an unstable, bitter angry man to target the ACLU and the Tides Foundation? I wonder...
Here are some recent headlines from top right wing sites. I won't link them or quote them, but let's see what they say.
- July 19, 2010: FoxNation: Soros-Funded Group Wants Feds to Probe Talk Radio
- July 21, 2010: Big Journalism: There You Go Again: Soros Comes to America
- June 23, 2010: Soros Says Germany Could Cause Euro Collapse - FOXBusiness.com
- June 22, 2010: 'Glenn Beck:' Soros Poised to Profit? - Glenn Beck - FOXNews.com
- July 6, 2010: Oliver Stone Lunches With George Soros | The FOX
Why does the right wing, and particularly Fox, hate Soros so much? As far as I can tell, there's no rational explanation. I did, however, find an irrational explanation on a weird, off-the-beaten path right wing blog.
Here's a summary: George Soros is a foreigner who came from a "socialist country", allegedly supports organizations promoting child molestation (he doesn't), supported the Solidarity movement in Poland (he did), and donated money toward George Bush's 2004 defeat (he did, but so did a lot of people).
Mostly, it's irrational ginned up stupid fear of absolutely nothing. His name isn't Koch, therefore he is evil. That's as rational as anything.
More baffling, actually, is the ACLU. For all of those liberty lovers, the ACLU should be their very, very best friend, because the ACLU loves the constitution just as much as any true teabagger. So why do they hate the ACLU?
Here are some headlines:
- July 20, 2010: ACLU Wants Prayer Banner Expelled « FOX News Radio
- July 19, 2010: Black Hills Fox - ACLU warns of travel to Arizona
- September 10, 2009: Raw Story » Fox guest: ACLU defense teams should be jailed
- July 20, 2010: Judge OKs Lying About Military Service - Fox News, blaming the ACLU for bringing the lawsuit
- July 19, 2010: Beck: Does Presidential Assassination Program Exist? (Beck alleges the President could even assassinate the ACLU)
Not a week goes by without at least three stories about the ACLU threatening the frightened viewer's freedom and liberty. Penis pumps for illegals? Fox News blames the ACLU. American Taliban lawyer going after Arizona's immigration law? Blame the ACLU. Tourism down in Arizona? Blame the ACLU.
This is how these wingers operate. They make bogeymen out of anyone and any organization that doesn't fall into lockstep with their thinking. And they just don't care when some deranged fool takes their bloviation seriously, loads up the truck, puts on the body armor, and sets out on a mission to 'start a revolution'.
And if he couldn't start a revolution, well hey, he can shoot at some cops instead.
It ought to be criminal. There was a time where it was. Now it seems anyone can say anything and get away with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSB7HTFECdk
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Now that liberals have heard of Tides, the money they receive will grow exponentially. Thanks, Byron Williams!
I think the poor man is simply misunderstood and needs a hug to make it all better.
I wonder, what would cause an unstable, bitter angry man to target the ACLU and the Tides Foundation? I wonder..
I don't wonder: Fox Terror Channel.
Beck would have been the employee of the month at the gestapo headquarters, filling out reports where he describes in agonizing detail how the violent suspect hit with his face, repeatedly, Beck's officer boots.
The projection and hypocrisy from these virulent reactionaries is not what bothers me the most, it is the fact that they are not called out on it and allowed to not only continue but thrive with this level of dishonesty.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Beck was Joseph Goebbels.
There is no similar "but" clause for Beck.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Goebbels was smarter.
Be as you wish to seem
He was just trying to start a race war. It must irritate him that the same behavior is now rewarded with multi-million dollar media contracts.
This is one of the best comments ever! The correlation between the Manson Family killings and what Fox is doing is scarily similar, isn't it? Their motivation is divisiveness, just as Manson's was. I guess they truly do hate America over there at the 'Fair and Balanced' network.
Yep. Manson kept preaching to his followers about "Helter Skelter" and the upcoming apocalypse that only they would survive. It's the same brainwashing technique. The only difference is the Manson Family were on drugs and Glenn Beck fans are just stupid. No chemical help needed.
i'll bet there are plenty of beck fans on drugs prescription or otherwise. beck may offer some elements of perceived truth but then he covers those elements with shit on a 8th grade level.
True. Pharmaceutical companies are the biggest drug pushers in the world.
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 09:47 — MaudeLebowski
No chemical help needed.
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Pabst Blue Ribbon doesn't count?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Loves PBR. Plus it's only $2 at happy hour.
human history is built around elites having the masses carry out their dirty deeds.
99% of warfare falls under that umbrella. If anything Manson was an amateurish two bit operation compared with other historical characters (foreign and homegrown).
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
can't that be used as a precedent? Ok, I know.
Jew. If you're looking for the sub-text of the evil Soros campaign you will probably find it there.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
That's all it takes for these Passion of the Wingnut followers to hear in order to determine an enemy.
that the ACLU, an organization so committed to human and civil rights, is so despised by the right when they claim to be defenders of those very same principles.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
... talk about the sanctity of life, yet more people have died because of religion than any other man-made cause.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
You are soooo right. Religion is the scourge of this earth! Nothing is more evil than religion.
Religion has no power,
Therefore it's only as good or bad as the people within
And for those who obviously don't believe in religion
Why are they giving it power it otherwise lacks?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Popes kill people in boiling oil.
TFR
invariably. Sometimes they use their Mitre saw. You didn't think that was just a hat did you.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
The mitre is pennier than the sword...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
ysb, I'm having a hard time interpreting your comment, considering stories like this. Could you rephrase your thought, as it may just be a grammatical thing?
Study the symptoms not the virus...
The bulk of human history somehow disagrees with that statement.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Religion has an amazing amount of Power... There is a huge number of people who desperately follow the tenets of their Religion... and a lot of people who question their Religion's political doctrines but are afraid to not fall in line for fear that the other mindless followers will persecute them.
Religious leaders spout all their pseudo-moral diatribes to their unthinking simpleton followers... and those mindless followers do whatever they say. That's a tremendous amount of Power.
~albabe (The Writer/Artist Formally Known As Al Gordon)
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That's my whole point, it's the PEOPLE in religion, not religion itself.
And People FIT their religions to justify what they already feign to do.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPxi5wzmPRA
"No man is so foolish but he may sometimes give another good counsel, and no man so wise that he may not easily err if he takes no other counsel than his own. He that is taught only by himself has a fool for a master." - Hunter S. Thompson
You'd think the wingnutters would canonize the ACLU like they did disgraced Ollie North.
... and there never was.
Helping a thief out simply means that at some point he knows where to steal from if he runs out of other targets: your house.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Religion doesn't kill people, people fixated on their own religions kill other people.
Religions are like corporations, and are no more people in their own right, and are just abstractions and legal fictions...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
with that Argumentum ad Tangentum Nitpickensis.
:-)
Yeah, technically bullets do not kill people. The kinetic energy (and potential depending on the parabolic trajectory), which the atoms in the bullet gained from the momentum induced from the transfer of the energy stored in the molecular bonds in the powder found in the metal jacket of the bullet, energy which was released by the mechanical impact of the trigger which actually was just transferring the energy stored in its spring. So indeed, it is that succession of energy transfers represented by the speeding the bullet which creates the traumatic damage to stationary tissues of the victim. And depending on the actual difference in velocities/momentum/and positioning of the victim relative to the bullet, that may lead to catastrophic organ failure, thus rendering the body of the victim unable to sustain viable operation and thus ends the life of the subject.
So technically, the energy stored in the spring of a trigger is what kills people. Heck, we can even be more pedantic, and technically the culprit was the initial energy transferred from the finger of the would be assassin, which released the energy stored in the spring of the loaded trigger, which in turn... But for the sake of simplicity I'd just go with "he was killed by a bullet" when describing a person dead from a gunshot.
I suspect you fully understood what I meant by religion being responsible for large numbers of people losing their lives. ;-)
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
They also defended Rush Limbaugh from the Florida courts when they tried to subpoena his medical records.
defend those rights and not just *say* they're for 'em.
would be that the ACLU defends everyone's rights and the right wingers advance rights only for themselves.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Shoot I didn't even know who sponsored the Tides. But then, I don't watch Fox. OTOH I'm a proud member of the ACLU for 23 years.
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
proud member and will be for as long as it and I are still around.
It is an organization I have always admired.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
These guys are pushing this Country closer and closer to a civil war.
If we cannot stop these people and come together as a nation, we are doomed to civil war or a breakup of this great Country. Sad...really sad!
Actually they are still fighting the last one...
... when I hear these types tell others to "get over it." When it comes to express the slightest bit of sympathy for the plight of others.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
there is a business near Asheboro, NC, that flies a confederate battle flag and not a US or NC state flag.
I've so wanted to replace it with a rainbow flag in the dark of night but I'm certain they have security cameras onsite.
complete loons - when I used to live in Greensboro NC, I was warned to never approach a trailer off by itself with the stars and bars - that it was an arms repository for the Klan..... I am originally a Michigander, and being in NC for a few years was quite an eye opener. I would say that the Asheboro loons are going to shoot first and then ask questons. The only sane place that I think exists in NC is Ashville, up in the Smokey's - an island of progressive thought in a sea of morons.
with one of those "America Love or Leave it" bumper stickers next to it in NC.
"Ode to dissonance" seems to be the proper motto for big chunks of the South.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Check out Maurice's BBQ in South Carolina. Absolutely batshit.
Men are basically smart or dumb and lazy or ambitious. The dumb and ambitious ones are dangerous and I get rid of them. The dumb and lazy ones I give mundane duties. The smart ambitious ones I put on my staff. The smart and lazy ones I make my commanders.
Percival Everett's short story 'Appropriation of Culture' where a black guy down south starts a campaign to re-brand the stars and bars as the black power flag. It is so thoroughly WICKED a concept. Somebody ought to try this.
http://www.amazon.com/Damned-If-I-Do-Stories/...
It's been read on NPR's 'Selected Shorts' and gets re-broadcast occasionally.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4384472/the_app...
this comment only linked to a site where the story can be heard. Sole content, no bandwidth taken, only the link.
[Sorry. It was automatically filtered out, and I didn't see it until this morning. I unblocked it-Sitemonitor]
http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/en...
the other was on metacafe.
I've been wanting to appropriate the vulgar term for a bundle of twigs to apply to teabaggers and other loony right wingers. But I don't think the gay community would approve so I haven't attempted it.
Its been repeated many many times, and the big loser is the human race, who as a generality, never learns its lessons. The lizard brain, and the Id (In German "Das Es" or the "It") hatred of "the other" is used to supreme advantage by the people pulling the lizard's strings and pushing their buttons. Their manipulaton is reaching a fever pitch, the outcome - the same as its been throught time.
so that they can say, "See, I told you so." And it will be all the liberals and the black President's fault.
Another crazy Tea-Party Terrorist that watches Fux Noise liars.
at his likely new home in Pelican Bay penitentiary.
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---Southwest Airlines
the boys's momma says he watched TV news and listened to the radio and hated the liberal agenda of Congress. One neighbor, who said he had never talked to him, said his wife heard him yelling obsecentities once after Obama's election and used the 'n" word.
It is obvious Beck is behind this. Can Obama's apology to him be far behind.
TFR
I also understand the tough spot he is in.
It is astounding to see white folk going off the deep end with such level of hatred for someone simply based on his race. And yet he is the one who has to mind his words/attitude as to not be perceived as the "angry black man."
I don't envy Obama for having to be in such a spot.... specially when these same assholes tolerated the idiot son of an asshole for 8 long years, yet they are triple checking everything Obama says and does with electron microscopes. It has to be crippling indeed.
Obama has to cater to the same people who hate his guts, because wether we like it or not this is still a racist society. And even though I may not respect at a personal level such level of catering to those in the right who despise him, at the same time I understand that he probably does not feel like having two daughters grow up without a father. And let's make no mistake, the minute Obama dares take real charge of this country, he could very well end up with a bullet from some of these loons wanting to "take their country back from a black man" (the teabaggers always omit this second part of the sentence).
It is sad to witness this in the XXI century.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
And the ensuing stream of 24/7 nonsense first.
when he was fighting to keep his medical records private.
This should have followed the comment on Ollie North.
When times are bad economically, and times are the worst for many people since the '30s, people look for scapegoats.
"It can't be my fault. Somebody must be out to get me."
We're too fat, too stupid and too angry. And no, I don't just mean Rush Limbaugh.
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there are people that are vulnerable to the fox brainwashing. where were these people during the bush yrs.?
Study the symptoms not the virus...
some people in my opinion are very foolish. this country let wall street/financial take us down the path we are on. among other concerns the two i believe that are hurting this country are OUTsourcing and relocation of jobs and corporations. we have lost the multiplier effect of manufacturing/innovation/job diversification. jobs have been lost that will never return and we've also lost TAX revenue in a very quick amount of time that is associated with those jobs and corporations that have left. when you talk to so-called conservatives about corporations/banks not being loyal and being partially at fault their eyes have a glazed look. they can't comprehend.......it's much easier for them to take the path of least resistance and blame obama...reid and pelosi. wall street wants profits and happy shareholders at all costs. so they go to the promise land of $.70 cents an hour and no worker's comp.......for more profit.
The ACLU is also helping support the 2nd Amendment so if these rabid rightwingers could get past their biases they'd see the ACLU is on their side too - because they're on the side of all freedom loving Americans.
http://www.examiner.com/x-33868-West-Palm-Bea...
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
... that loving guns and loving freedom are two very different things, not necessarily related.
The NRA et al love their guns first and foremost, it so happens the US constitution mentions something about guns.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
True.
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
Just imagine how it would drive the right wing crazy if Soros changed his name to Reagan.
Wallace
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=566_PBg6jkE
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
They are advocates for what they believe is wrong.
If anything gets changed, it's the courts that will effect the changes.
Is this that so hard to understand?
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
But some notable commentators for Fox News and others seem to.
You could say the same about the entire civil rights movement, MLK included.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Federal charges can be filed against the shooter - instead of filing charges against Beck and FOX.
I'm guessing a huge part of them hating on Soros has to do with the fact that he's a billionaire who puts his money behind causes he believes in, instead of using it to further empower the elite. He's a turncoat in their opinion.
FDR generated a similar level of vitriol from the moneyed elites, and was labeled as a "traitor to his class." Ironically, by the same people who tell us there has never been a class system in the USA.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
I don't think their ability to actually Think goes that far.
They get their marching orders from their hollow heroes: Rush The Hut, Der Manatee, The Big Giant Head, Caribou Barbie (the Avon Governess), Breitbart, Williams, and the rest of the pundits sucking at the combined Mega Corporate teat.
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There will be more of this happening I guarantee you , with Fox and the Reich wing hate and fear mongers and all of their lies relentlessly drummed into peoples heads , 24/7 , every single day of the week , this won't be the last "incident" .What Fox is getting away with used to be a crime and against the law but St. Ronnie and the Repugs changed that too .
And of course the right wing domestic terrorist Republican is a Christian. Wotta surprise.
No one had ever heard of the Tides foundation and certainly not this bank robbing hick until it was mentioned multiple times over the last month on Becks show as one of those librul orgs destroying Amerika! "They're the ones keeping you from having a job, 2-time bank robbing white racist hick loser" "go get em!"
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what is worse, ignorance or indifference?
I don't know and I don't care!
convicted fellon had anything to do with his unemployment.
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