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If you missed Dave Neiwert's post on the disgusting, odious O'Keefe, go read it first. What drives me wild about this story is the disgusting, cynical attitude this young "filmmaker" has toward women, and how often I see it among other conservatives, even conservative women.

Check out O'Keefe's description of his little "prank" which is no prank at all, but a dangerous and violent assault on a young woman simply doing her job:

Instead, I've decided to have a little fun. Instead of giving her a serious interview, I'm going to punk CNN. Abbie has been trying to seduce me to use me, in order to spin a lie about me. So, I'm going to seduce her, on camera, to use her for a video. This bubble-headed-bleach-blonde who comes on at five will get a taste of her own medicine, she'll get seduced on camera and you'll get to see the awkwardness and the aftermath.

My first thought after reading this plan was that James O'Keefe has some strange reading material. I shudder to think what his video consumption is. But deeper than that -- far deeper -- is his cynical, ugly attitude about women. This is a guy who strikes me as someone who doesn't have the first clue about what women are really about, and certainly has no respect for them. In the 80's he would have been the lounge lizard hitting on every woman in the room while harboring fantasies about taking three of them home at once. He's someone who has no problem lying to anyone and everyone who challenges him.

He's the date rapist type you're glad you never encountered when you were single.

As Erin Kotecki-Vest, also known as QueenofSpain points out, this is not in any way, shape or form, investigative journalism:

O'Keefe calls himself a journalist. He thinks THIS Is what 'investigative' journalism is like. That's what kills me. Investigative journalism isn't a 'set-up' though, it's research. His research is sexual harassment and idiocy. 

 

Erin has more than a little credibility in this area, given that she's a recipient of the Golden Mic award for investigative journalism. In an email she pointed out that she won that Golden Mic through research and hard work, not baiting and sexual harassment. Her bra size didn't have a single thing to do with it. 

As incredibly stupid as his idiotic plan was, it should also offend any woman who has ever had to overcome her looks to be taken seriously in her chosen profession. 

From Abbie's heartbreakingly familiar statement:

As a woman in the news industry you have to be tough. I have always had to work harder than my male counterparts to be taken seriously and to be treated with respect. As a woman in the news industry you have to ignore all of the silly talk from your managers about the clothes you should wear on-air or what color your hair should be. I have had my share of conversations like that, and to be honest, it stings. I'm left wondering, "When will my work stand on its own? Why does this always have to be part of the conversation?

PunditMom (Joanne) had this comment:

When I was a young thing in TV news in the late 70s and early 80s (think Anchorman, except I wasn't as attractive as Christina Applegate!), the exact same things were going on. I had a chance to meet a well-known woman network TV journo who told me then -- you just have to suck it up and ignore it.   How many generations have we officially had since 1978?  As long as men run things, this will never change -- and even then it won't change, but if women run things, we can fire their asses!

This conversation has gone on and on and on. It never changes. There will always be someone who attacks the way people look or conversely, exploits the way they look. One of O'Keefe's champions, Dana Loesch, just spent an inordinate amount of time on Twitter attacking women she has political differences with on the basis of how they look! This boggles my mind. As a member of the human race, I believe there are some lines you just don't need to cross. I can disagree with all my mind, heart and soul with someone politically and still not care about looks. Is Rachel Maddow less effective because she doesn't fit the "traditional woman" TV mold? I think not. As Adam says:

But Loesch doesn't just get her story wrong, she reveals herself as supporting exactly what most of the feminist movement (both liberal and conservative) has been working to combat for a long time: she appears to think that womens' looks should be used against them in political discourse, and she repeatedly attacks other women based on their looks while implying that this says something about their moral worth. As I've documented, Loesch has a history of this: she previously said that women at Emily's List had "hair lips" and were jealous of Palin, and she suggested that those criticizing her were like "chicks who pad their bras."

Is this a conservative thing, this cynicism about how looks define the person or their politics? There should be some issues that define us as humans, not conservatives or liberals. My grandmother and my mother dealt with the same kinds of criticism as Boudreau in their work lives. I spent the first 10 years of my career learning how to dodge drunk salesmen at company open bar parties, while fighting off rumor after rumor after rumor about who I was screwing at any given time. My daughter will be in the workforce in another 10 years. Will we still be having this conversation then?

Via the #journchat tag on Twitter, I found this great post by Jessica Malnik. The title alone is worth its weight in gold: Stop "Barbie-tizing" The Newsroom!

Barbies, like “journalism barbie,” promote stereotypes and essentially make a mockery about women’s career choices. Subconsciously, it is invoking in little girls that women are supposed to be “well-dressed sex symbols” in the newsroom. Think about it. Journalism barbie is presumably a TV anchor, who is super-skinny and wearing tons of makeup and what can only be described as a shiny pink velvet suit.

TV anchors, well at least good anchors, are some of the hardest working journalists out there. As someone who has worked in TV news, I can attest that a lot of hard work goes into a TV newscast.

Because yes, there really *is* a Journalism Barbie. Holy God, what have we been fighting for all these years? 

James O'Keefe is detestable. His plan was cynical, sexist, and abusive, and exposed by a woman who worked for him, who was offended beyond her political beliefs. She was offended as a member of the human race. She knew it wasn't right, and she tipped off Boudreau. For her courage, she lost her job, while O'Keefe keeps his. What a message that sends.

Grow up. Grow up, conservatives. Quit putting frat boy College Republicans with idiotic seduction sting plans up as legitimate reporters while marginalizing real reporters with real talent and a real desire to do investigative journalism.  

And yes, quit defining women on the basis of their bra size, their hair color and their looks. Blondes are not bimbos. Liberals are not all flat-chested (I'm looking at YOU, Dana Loesch). The only thing that matters here is what's between their ears. Are we ever going to get to a point where women are respected for what they DO, rather than how they LOOK?

One last word of advice for CNN: Framing these idiots as some form of "guerilla journalist" group lends them legitimacy they do not deserve. Call O'Keefe what he is -- a sexual predator. Calling this a "prank" marginalizes the deleterious effect this kind of cheap, sleazy tabloid effort has on our political discourse. It's no more or less classy than putting a guy on as a serious commentator who once called a Supreme Court justice a "goatf*cking child molester."

There is no reason to give them anything close to legitimate standing. If you care about Abbie Boudreau and value her as your employee, you will call O'Keefe's effort an attempted rape and his video operation a fraud and a farce. Anything less does a disservice to your reporter.

Cross-posted from MOMocrats.com

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ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

LeftandLeft's picture

Just a common shit starter. God I'd love to knock the shit out of this pussy.

you would think this was a joke. But with this guy, it seems very plausible he would come up with such a stupid plot. The unbelievable part is that he actually thought he could seduce this women. He isn't exactly what most women would consider a catch.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Depends on what they expect to catch...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

BigD145's picture

...the stupid?

Truth_Critic's picture
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LMAO, thank you ysb.


Study the symptoms not the virus...

Timjoebillybob's picture

with him to try and get the story she wanted, it isn't inconceivable he could get her to do more. He'll I'm not that great of a catch, and I've had women flirt and been willing to go farther than that to get what they wanted.

Edwin's picture

The guy is a slimy mutt. She wasn't flirting she was trying to do a story. They didn't meet at the bar. Besides, I'm pretty sure she has better taste and she obviously has tact. Both, he lacks.


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cmaughan's picture

Not trying to be rude, just shocked.

cmaughan's picture

All women have to do to make men like that think they are flirting is breath. I am surprised by your attitude towards women. Healthy confident men do not use language like "willing to go farther" "to get what they wanted". Perhaps those were vulnerable women, it's very common for a woman who has been sexually abuse to think sex is there only asset. Every well educated man (on the subject of sex abuse) I know understands that. So did you give them what they "wanted", or help them see that not all men are pigs.

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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Timjoebillybob's picture

all some women have to do is breath. Especially deep breaths while leaning forward. But what is my attitude towards women?

I'm healthy and confident. Well perhaps not as healthy as I was in my 20's but age will do that, confidence is still okay though.

You've never know a woman to flirt or trade sexual favors for something they wanted or to use them as a reward? No offense but you must not know very many married women. Or waitresses. As a case in point one of my ex-bosses commented about swallowing because her husband bought her a new ring. She made him happy and he made her happy, what is wrong with that? But then again I've know men who do the same, you've never heard of a gigolo?

It is also very common that women know that their sex appeal is an asset, not their only one but one of them. And there are men who use it as an asset also. Use what you have. I don't fault Stephen Hawking for using his brain or Ruth Ginsberg, I also don't fault Pamela Anderson or Arnold Schwarzenegger for using their bodies.

Did I give them what they wanted? At times, if I was able. It was my perception of their need for the most part along with what I was able and willing to do. The flirting or their willingness to do more than flirt didn't matter usually. Although I will admit at times it made me more willing.

What shocks me is that people still think flirting or sex is wrong. It amazes me that it is okay for a woman to work 8-12 hours as a waitress or factory worker or whatever else and that is fine. But if she lays on her back for 15 minutes for the same pay she is being taken advantage of. When I worked in the casinos I knew a couple of escorts that came there, the best paid ones made more in one night than I made in usually 2 or 3 weeks or in some cases more. And that one night was with one person who took them out to dinner, a show and whatever else, I even saw them in the casino gambling with their customers money and keeping the winnings. They were willing to flirt and "go farther" for what they wanted. How is that taking advantage of them?

kittycollins's picture

trust me she wasn't flirting with this thin lipped loser.

The really entrenched thought here is that because this woman was persistent in doing her job to this pervert she must be a slut, whore, easy woman.

It's the same thought that rapists have when they insist that they were only giving the woman what she wanted.

Woman as object. The teathuglicans and their white male power structure harbor many, many O'keefe's. Not saying the dems are innocents but I think they don't feel entitled to holier than thou lech behavior as much as the O'keefe's of the world.

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she didn't have to be a slut, whore or an easy woman. Just perhaps she gave the impression that she was one to get the story.

And before I trust you that she wasn't flirting with him. Are you her? Or were you there?

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He looks like a fucking nerd but i'm sure he doesn't even know Galactus. He has a suprise for your arse m8!


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You can be sure that the only thing this dork has ever seduced is his right hand. O.K., maybe his left one too.

I married a feminist. He treats me as all women should be treated.

It's a shame that what women fought for since the 1840's has not really been mainstreamed. It doesn't help that we have revisionists such as Palin claiming to be the "real feminists" while pushing her personal subtext all along. The Republican "Christian womanhood" meme is doing more damage to real progress for women than we've had in a long time.


"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman

Timjoebillybob's picture

how you feel all women should be treated? I would honestly like to know what you think.

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Tombo's picture

This douchebag is on probation. It's clear he hasn't learned a thing from his slap-on-the-wrist sentence. Hopefully this latest bullshit is a probation violation.

Waldo's picture

I don't think there was a link to this similar analysis on Salon from Tracy Clark-Flory.

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karoli's picture

I hadn't seen that when I wrote this. Much appreciated.

...and sinister as this anti-woman deviant O'Keefe and the vile racist Breitbart.

The "high road" is useless when dealing with assholes like this future jailhouse cigarette trade-off.

out on the front line and this guy is allowed to degrade females. Just the example of Margaret Moth. That woman was out there where men wouldn't go for the story because she knew that the story had to be told. So what the fuck is this guy doing? What story is he telling? The guy is an idiot and the only story he's telling is that there are people out there willing to buy his crap. They are willing to tolerate degradation to weaken a segment of society. There is no reason why this man should have gained any fame. Why has he been elevated to this status?


Jeanne

ron's picture

asshole's father an attorney general or something of high office somewhere? Is this how the elite raise their children that "SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABORTED?"

Unkl Witz's picture

Clearly, this is a man who thrives on his fifteen minutes of fame. He's already had it. Let's now reward him with the oblivion he so richly deserves.

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Which was my point. Sexism like this is still rampant in our culture. Calling this a 'prank' minimizes its gravity.

Timjoebillybob's picture

Would you feel the same if his partner in the acorn videos was trying to seduce a male cnn reporter?

karoli's picture

The ACORN videos, by the way, were as bogus as this effort.

ron's picture

don't take anything that TBBJ asks as a serious question.

Andy K's picture

If you want to see it get weirder, write a post that relates to small arms, and watch Dr. Timjoebillybob turn into Mr. Mall-Ninja right before your very eyes.

Timjoebillybob's picture

not a mall-ninja, I don't duct tape ballistic plates to my back or have a modified golf cart with rocket launchers. Google gecko45 for more.

Timjoebillybob's picture

And could you answer the other one also?

And the acorn videos were edited, but according to the person acorn hired to check them out, what was said on the tapes is what the people there said.

bbk's picture

So if Johnny Depp decided to play this prank it would have been Ok because he's hot and the CNN reporter wouldn't be as insulted by the prank??? If George Clooney was the one doing it, it wouldn't be as much of a backwards step for feminism? What are all these comments about???? Yeah let's all make fun of the way this dude looks because that's really what the problem is with what he did.

The kid has as much right to think he can seduce someone as David Duchovny. The very notion that this punk Republican somehow retarded women's progress is patently offensive. Really? I mean, really? Well get the thought police to come get me because I just thought I could score a date with Angelina Jolie! No, seriously - if you're reading this, call me...

There is nothing sexist about thinking that you're capable of seducing someone of the opposite sex - or the same sex, for that matter. Nothing. There is nothing sexist about wanting to seduce someone attractive. It may border on or cross the line into narcissism, but that's it! Get over it. Now.

That way, you can start to think about what's actually wrong with what he did.

LeftandLeft's picture

Deception, lies and bullshit isn't the way to ask someone out.

bbk's picture

trying to slime CNN with a fake scandal => trying to get a date => pedophile. How does that follow or relate to my comment?

karoli's picture

A blonde, bubble-headed bimbo? Really?

Timjoebillybob's picture

you know where that comment comes from. But for those that don't
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2h296_don-h...

bbk's picture

for John Stewart to call Tucker Carlson an arrogant douche. But that's beside the point, it's a strawman and not what I'm talking about. Read your comments:

"He looks like a fucking nerd"
"You can be sure that the only thing this dork has ever seduced is his right hand"
"God I'd love to knock the shit out of this pussy"

They're losing your feminist fight for you right here in this thread.

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"...lounge lizard hitting on every woman in the room while harboring fantasies about taking three of them home at once."...and what, exactly is wrong with that? Flirting and sexual fantasies (or relationships) that vary from a monogamous committed relationship are practiced by many men and women. Not sure how this paints O'Keefe as a bad guy.

I find the sexism in the workplace to be outrageous. Women doing the same job as men and being paid less is unacceptable, and I speak up about it all the time. O'Keefe is a scumbag, without a doubt. A pathetic loser who definitely does not get women. Yes, many guys who have major issues with women end up Republican. Sexism, like racism and homophobia, are much too rampant in society. I'm so weary of the right wing craziness.

However, as far as dress goes, I've noticed something interesting in my work place I'm not sure I understand.
I work at what is essentially an engineering firm. There's a lot of IT. The workforce is at least 50% female, and it's a fairly conservative place - nothing sexy in this business. The mgmt is roughly 50/50 women/men.
The men here are mostly middle aged, married, stable. Their attire is south of drab.
However, a high percentage of the women, of all ages, dress to kill; wearing cleavage revealing outfits, tight skirts, etc.
Surprisingly, a number of the men complain about it (in private even!). These are guys who are married, or just want to work. It can be uncomfortable, as a man, to have to have a conversation with a woman in a cleavage revealing blouse or dress. Especially a conversation about UNIX, databases, and other pencil-in-the-eye types of subjects.

So, what I don't understand in the context of my workplace is that the women don't get promoted based on cleavage (engineers - everyone is a nerd here, and the women in mgmt definitely are not there for their looks), the men would actually prefer it if the women wore button up or t-shirts or something not cleavage revealing, and the women actually seem to be competing with each other many times when it comes to dressing.

The button that got pushed for me was the implication that "it's the men". Perhaps I read too much into it.

Is karoli talking newsroom only, or is she implying that all men do this?

While the newsroom may be different, in my workplace looks really don't count for much...so why do the women play dress up?

I'm offering this respectfully, and I want karoli to know I really enjoy reading her posts.

karoli's picture

And truly, it's not just men. It's women too, which was my point with the Loesch references. What I am saying is that this behavior of O'Keefe's goes beyond any boundary we could even consider to be propriety and it does so with impunity.

He basically planned to, at the very least, humiliate her by coming onto her with overt sexual moves. Whatever the final outcome was doesn't matter, because as John Cole so aptly pointed out, he would have just edited it however he intended to edit it to tell whatever he felt like telling, Fox News would have picked up the narrative and run with it, everyone would have been slamming her, and three weeks later it would be exposed as the lie it is, but of course, no one notices.

People like O'Keefe aren't playing silly flirty games. They're predators. Cynical, violent predators. He wanted, at the very least, to destroy her career. That's a little different than joking with the guys around the coffee station.

Do you think Boudreau would have gotten this attention if she were a man? I somehow doubt it.

bbk's picture

He was attacking CNN because he attacks anything that he perceives to be liberal. It was her dumb luck to be doing a story on idiots like him. If she were a man, it would have made no difference. He would have just gotten his cohort who played the hooker in the ACORN videos to sit on the boat with the reporter, instead.

Andy K's picture

...whose name you don't remember. Because everyone is trying to get an interview with whatshername.

Think it through next time, please.

bbk's picture

The cohort worked for him, he's the ringleader of this little group. He's the only one who matters. That's why everyone is trying to dig up dirt on this guy (and he knows it). But I could hardly care less what his name is, either. How did you construct this logic in your head wherein a male reporter would specifically have to want to interview the lesser female cohort in order for O'Keefe to have her sit on a boat dressed like a prostitute? You haven't made a single valid point, Andy.

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If the reporter was a man, chances are O'Keefe would have had a better time carrying out his little prank without his cohort turning out against him. They would have all gone right along with it laughingly. Hell, Izzy Santa would have role played happily if the task was to shame a man in the same exact way.

There's always two ways to look at gender politics. Some people just jump on the opportunity to portray a world where all men are violent rapist pigs and all women are disadvantaged in every way, on every level, every single day. To the point where a punk kid is somehow regarded as a "filmmaker" and placed in the same exact category as the owners and managers of media conglomerates for which female newscasters work for. Did anyone else notice that, or was it just me? You work in a job that requires you to report on wars, murderers, genocide, natural disaster, and scum like O'Keefe. Where's the connection from O'Keefe to sexist boss? Where is the connection that turns this story into a multi-decade setback for female journalist? How many times do I have to ask for this to be answered? The claim has been made, so back it up.

..the language and scenario was a violent and dark one -- one that involved him controlling her via sexual allusion. He refers to S&M as a joke, for example. His shlocky ideas of what might seduce a woman aside, the goal was to humiliate her. She would not have had to take off her jacket for him to make that happen.

Just read the imagined dialogue, which is a joke all by itself, where she weakly insists she's married. This guy didn't simply hate her perceived 'liberal bias'; he hated HER.

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That's the first time I've read it, and.....That is some staggeringly half-witted shit, isn't it? It's like sixth graders at Donald Segretti Elementary School preparing to debate the faculty of Harvard Law.

And the fact that they passed around documentation of their insidious nefarious retarded plan.....ACORN got shut down because of this little fuckweed?

bbk's picture

it's starting to seems like you just have an agenda and you don't want to look at the big picture.

No matter how vile anything he has said about this reporter and whether or not he personally feels angry and hateful of women does not make one bit of difference. He was planning to use sexual innuendo to undermine an individual and an organization that he sees as his political enemy. That's the big picture here.

“Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence” - Napoleon Bonaparte.

Once you get past your anger about his warped view of men and women, stop trying to turn it into a one sided us (women) vs them (men) issue. It's not! This guy is utterly incompetent. He did not destroy Acorn, the MSM did. He was just a tool who fit into someone else's larger political agenda.

Look, here is your Dan Rather moment. Here is your chance to go back and make life difficult for all the MSM organizations that bought into this incompetent hack's obvious lies. You could be using this to call for their heads to roll and giving them a strong dose of their own medicine. But you can't because all that you seem capable of doing is trying to convince the world that when it happens to a man it's political, but when it happens to a woman it's sexist.

And if you want your side to have the higher ground, you should be as vocally critical as I am about all the people in this thread who have responded to the situation by saying that he acts the way he does because he's a nerd (as if that's how nerdy guys act), sexually unattractive (as if that's how sexually unattractive men act), etc. In so doing you've lost the high ground and you're using the same kind of sexist shaming tactics that you dislike about him. If you continue failing to address my points by speaking past me and making appeals to emotion, I hate to tell you but it just won't be a convincing argument.

Gene214's picture

Somebody stalks your wife or girlfriend, let's see how understanding you are.


If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.

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Alerta_Alerta's picture

Or what about someone just stalking you of whatever sex? No Excuses.


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Timjoebillybob's picture

my wife, I will deal with it. My wife allows herself to be seduced by someone? Totally different story, I'll deal with it but in a totally different way. Most likely divorce.

bbk's picture

I'm not a chivalrous chauvinist trying to prove his manhood. I'm a usmc war vet and I've got nothing to prove. I don't need to call some misguided kid a virgin as if that's somehow going to defend my girlfriend's honor. Her honor isn't threatened by some punk and she can handle herself, she doesn't need me to live her life.

Truth_Critic's picture

"I'm a usmc war vet and I've got nothing to prove" :P


Study the symptoms not the virus...

bbk's picture

Yeah that can easily be taken out of context

Truth_Critic's picture

Or simply taken out and thus not proved. :P

PS. I'm a former squid, and I've worked around you silly jarheads. I have fond memories of downing suds at the base's Marbar, in old Groton. Sincerely... thank you for your service.


Study the symptoms not the virus...

probably a few women too) who have this idea that women are fine with abusive behavior so long as the abuser is handsome. I have seen this logic on feminist blogs where entitled non-feminist idiots lecture women about street harassment, and tell us how we will tolerate unwanted threatening attention from handsome men, which is complete and utter bullshit. These men whine about not having the right to bother and harass women in public for their own enjoyment.

Newsflash: In the case of street harassment, a handsome, threatening, and disrespectful man is still a threatening disrespectful man no matter what he looks like. And creepy, illegal unsolicited sexual behavior of a handsome man is still creepy, illegal, unsolicited behavior no matter what the man looks like.

As one of the gazillions of women who've endured street harassment since puberty pretty much, I find this logic deeply offensive, whether it's applied to street harassment, or to the videotape antics of a spoiled conservative frat boy. Both situations SUCK.


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Timjoebillybob's picture

What do you consider threatening, disrespectful and what in your state is illegal? And what is street harassment? Is it a guy whistling at you? Making a comment as you walk past? Following and making comments? Groping? Saying your attractive and giving you his number and asking you out on a date?

bbk's picture

I'm right there with you. And just to be sure that you understand how completely I agree with you about how disgusting that mentality is, I'll add some more examples of where the same thing happens:

1) a sick, disturbed man attempts a sexual caper with a CNN reporter and hence men and women together call him a nerd, a dork, a virgin, so ugly a woman would never want to have sex with him
2) a nerdy, dorky, virginal guy politely asks a girl out on a date and all her girlfriends tell her "he looks like a stalker! he looks creepy! he's gonna rape you! yuck!"
3) a hot young teacher rapes a student and gets a light sentence of community service... oh and the boy is a "man" now thanks to her good deed.

Maybe you missed the sarcasm of my original comment, because we agree completely, except that I think you might only looking at it from one perspective.

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What about him being a fucking bastard? Your TL;DR doesn't mean shit to me. He's a fuckwad!


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Rich H's picture

you need help. Seriously.


He can just highlight some serious male stagnation and outright regression.


But Katie Couric, Sarah Palin and the FOX Newsbunnies? They not only damage women's advancement in journalism, they damage journalism - period.


BTW, how is this clown O'Keefe not in jail yet?


Corruption favors the wealthy.

totallynext's picture

He was a sex predator, he was planning on advancing on this women...

Call him a potential rapist.

Timjoebillybob's picture

a woman is a sex predator? Damn most men I know are. If you include trying to seduce other men, I'd say virtually all of them are.

Why does trying to sleep with a woman make a person a potential rapist?

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I'm convinced he was planning to drug her and either rape her or take photos of her. None of his "plan" makes sense, but if you listen to the reporters own account of the incident, O'Keefe's bizarre statement of intent reads more like he was building a little defense in advance of an assault.

He says she'd been trying to "seduce him". Really.

Rich H's picture

as the brother of six sisters, I find it amazing what some males think is appropriate behavior, right McJeff?

Timjoebillybob's picture

he was planning on drugging or raping her? Especially since this was supposed to be on tape? He may be a punk but I don't believe he is stupid why would he provide evidence to put his ass in prison?

CFAmick's picture

I'm a self admitted sexist, and I'm working on it, but even I find this while thing creepy and out of line.

So is this like the climax of the fall of the conservative movement? All this conservative corruption is really getting close to critical mass, I'm afraid.

Rich H's picture

a wide stance while at the helm wearing diapers, surrounded by sex toys while navigating the Appalachian trail, maybe so. Short of that, it seems they can go on forever.

Well, duh! He's the yappy little cartoon dog who follows the bulldog, yapping and saying, "Me and Spike are gonna catch some cats, aren't we, Sprike? And then we're gonna hurt 'em and beat 'em up. Me and Spike are the toughest guys around, ain't we Spike?"

Or he's the obnoxious frat boy who got in because he has some connection, or knows how to score weed or booze. Nobody really likes him, but they find him useful.

Rich H's picture

obnoxious frat boy, who kidnaps you in the middle of the night and makes you pray to the aqua budha. What some guys think is prank behavior is beyond me.

Gene214's picture

Abbie has been trying to seduce me to use me, in order to spin a lie about me. So, I'm going to seduce her, on camera, to use her for a video.

This is one sick dude. Really. He needs to be put away in a hospital for awhile, not being featured on CNN


If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.

George Carlin

Different Anonymous's picture
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This is one sick dude. Really.

That's the big takeaway I get from this whole story. O'Keefe is: In. F*cking. Sane.

Since he aspires to be Rove, I wonder if he's as closeted as Rove. The handwriting is on the wall, I'm sure he enjoyed purchasing the toys that were going to adorn his love palace. (Not that there's anything wrong with any of that, but just admit it, instead of going through such gyrations to prove your masculinity. Pimp? Ladies Man? You don't need to be Dr. Freud to see what's going on with O'Keefe.)

slappy magoo's picture

...reminds me of homophobes who painstakingly describe what they'd do to a gay guy who EVEN THOUGHT of coming on to him. Without ever wondering what it is about the possibility of a man's touch that makes them so uneasy.

"She was going to seduce me." Well "Seduce" has connotations beyond the sexual, but it sounds to me like OKeefe knows he's a weak little turd. A woman who smiles at him, treats him with a modicum of respect and then asks him questions, he's going to fold like a guy that makes burritos at Chipotle. He recognizes his weakness...and hates the woman who brings that weakness out of him. Thus she must be punished.

Just like the homophobe who thinks a gay guy was looking at him all funny.
Just like the abusive husband who screams at his wife "why do you MAKE me DO this to you?" while slamming her head in the wall.
Just like the rapist who thinks that little prick tease knew what she was doing.
I'm sensing more than a few creepy similarities.

And for the defenders of O'keefe's "honor," who believe this was going to be nothing more than a practical joke akin to "Punk'd" riddle me this. If this was all meant to be in harmless fun, why would one of O'Keefe's cohorts - ONE OF HIS FRIENDS - decide to warn Abbie Boudreau? What reward does he get out of warning her if it were just a prank?

Unless it could've become more than that.

watstearns's picture

Well, I understand the indignation, and I'm glad for it. I can't agree except that O'Keefe is properly characterized as a bottom feeder. But I would have liked to hear more background regarding his statement that:

"Abbie has been trying to seduce me to use me, in order to spin a lie about me."

Is this true? Was Boudreau actually doing anything that prompted him to say this?

Alerta_Alerta's picture

Give me a break. He's scum. Why are you even try to defend him?


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jakflorida32169's picture

Ah, yes. Catch the subtlety in that statement? It's the classic "victim" defense — she was going to do "something" (lie about me) that could potentially hurt me so I decided (like most jr. high school kids) to "get her back". What "lie" was she going to tell do you think? Or was that something he cleverly concocted to protect his ass? Nice try slick, but even if you knew she was prepared to "lie" about you, your "punk" was in no way justified. Grow up or just go away. Please.


We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!

Rich H's picture

We have another one.

Truth_Critic's picture

"Well, I understand the indignation, and I'm glad for it. I can't agree except that O'Keefe is properly characterized as a bottom feeder."

I can't quite reconcile your point...("I'm glad for it." & "I can't agree except"). Your glad for her indignation, then you say "I can't agree"...

Do you have a fetish for indignation, or are you saying you "can't agree" with the Authors theory?

As far as I know your questions are warranted. IMO

That's all I'll say at this time.


Study the symptoms not the virus...

watstearns's picture

Dear Truth Critic:

Sorry, I was unclear. The guy is an insect and a bottomfeeder. Nonetheless, it's important for the sake of honesty and rigor to follow up on what he said, if there is anything substantial behind it. After all, even a jerk can have a point, however badly it might be expressed. I should know.

karoli's picture

She could have smiled at him and he interpreted that as seduction. A narcissist always builds a narrative that centers around him as the central character, because that narcissist is going to stage a scene that makes him the hero and degrades his perceived antagonist. If you read through all the notes, the goal was to humiliate her, destroy her career. Of course he had to set it up with her being the aggressor, which also fits his self-constructed control scenario.

In other words, it was fully intended to shift all blame from him to her. Period. that's how these people work. they always construct their worlds thus.

Long Tooth's picture

...Just Not Quite Thin Enough".

What the hell else do you chicks expect from us?

"..You've come a long way, baby, to get where you got to today.

You've got your own cigarette now, baby,

You've come a long, long way".

Truth_Critic's picture

I myself, upon limited consideration/information, feel that He/they are looking for the next "Blue Dress" story. They have the strong desire to prove their claims, as many individuals do. I didn't know the young lady/snitch was terminated or how long she was under their employ, but the noted physical description and dishevelment described by the CNN reporter, seem to be fairly current and you know what they say about a women scorned. :)

Amended...

Who knows what O'Keefe was trying to achieve, but this particular stunt does uncover something that, unfortunately, seems all too common among his ilk: not just a dislike for the "liberal media," but a special hatred for women.

Though I have reviewed limited details on this story, and can't recall why the CNN reporter was seeking an interview with this disingenuous chump in the first place... if that is in fact the case, what all the nasty stuff was for, fits right in with the tabloidization meme prevalent throughout society, and is exactly how and why Rupert Murdoch and others, have became so wealthy/popular. That's my reality/view at the present time anyways and you can just review my prior posts to see my bias(s), and coincidentally, I feel you may find... my unmistakable bias(s) are in fact... oddly enough, Contributable too this very gender divide, and evidenced by representative Grayson's recent Taliban Dan political ad.


Reminds me somewhat of
... Linda Tripp the Army Intelligence secretary at Fort Meade whom was transferred to the Pentagon in 1987... and later later she became an assistant for Delta Force.

Tripp was a White House employee in the George H. W. Bush administration, and kept her job when Bill Clinton took over in 1993. (Why did she participate in the Clinton ordeal...duty?)

PS. Mata Hari came to my biased mind as well. :-/


Study the symptoms not the virus...

fiver's picture
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TC, I really don't get where you're going on this. Can you flesh it out a bit?


Corruption favors the wealthy.

Truth_Critic's picture

This story seems to cover it pretty well I think.

At first interpretation of the Author's story, I had a slight impression that it was just a tad sentimental given the evidence before me.

In brief... I thought the incident may have been just as motivated by the noted dislike of CNN, and the primary agenda was to expose how they'll often report shit. You know just like the rest of the MSM. :P

As far as the degradation of women/females in this instance, it's undeniable the Conservative fundamentalist religionists have a specific ideological style, when it comes to treating women. We can compare the number of republican party females and democrat party females, though it may be circumstantial evidence, one should ponder the reason(s) for the differences and consider a theory behind the anomaly. It's my position, it's primarily derived by statement(s) like the following.

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. (Genesis 3:16)

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of every woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.... For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. (Corinthians 11:3, 8-9)

Let your women keep silence in the churches; for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home; for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. ( Corinthians 14:34-35)

Let the woman learn in silence in all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (1 Timothy 2:11-14)

In ending, it's fortunate we had women like this around. ♥


Study the symptoms not the virus...


This quote kinda threw me:

I mean, fuzzy handcuffs and Alicia Keys? Is this a sex den or a 20-year-old's bachelorette party? Also, please note that the list of props includes "an obvious sex tape machine" -- you know, one of those crazy sex tape machines the perverts are always using.



I've been around the block more than once. But I still don't know what "an obvious sex tape machine" is - let alone "one of those crazy sex tape machines the perverts are always using." Are there ducks involved? As far as O'Keefe is concerned, the MSM is always willing to report $%&#.


But where do I find one of those machines? :P


/snark. I think I get it now


Corruption favors the wealthy.

Truth_Critic's picture

Sorry, I agree the composition is quite sloppy. :-/

I used that block quote feature to amend my initial comment and have it stand out... after learning additional information. I sloppily placed the new info up top as it related to my "prove their claims" theory, which I found supportive of my inclination.

I never heard of a sex tape machine either, unless they're referring to possibly a handy-cam ... Ebay perhaps? ;)

Hope I didn't waste your time and thank you for your interest and opinion. √


Study the symptoms not the virus...

annie's picture

The problem with O'Keefe isn't his fantasy life. It's his narcissism. Apparently he thought her job of interviewing him along with other young conservatives was a desire on her part to seduce him, HIM! He never placed himself in a group of other young people who were going to be interviewed and realized that he had no more standing for her "attention" than anyone else on her list to be interviewed. He's exactly like the hysterical female stereotype who believes every man who passes her on the street wants to seduce her. I believe that is paranoia. And laughable most of the time.

I think he's terrified of women. Most of us feminists know that that kind of terror is very dangerous to all women. We know that people hate what they fear.

Truth_Critic's picture

"We know that people hate what they fear."

The aforementioned statement doesn't seem to reconcile with the God fearing people... but I get your point. ;)


Study the symptoms not the virus...

...a lack of respect. He strikes me as the kind of person who would use or exploit anyone with no regard for race, sex, or any other characteristic. For people like that women are frequent and easy targets, because so many American men are sexist (at least, and misogynistic at worst). But O'Keefe seems like the kind of lowlife who would treat anyone with contempt.

There is a very sad (and disgusting) item in the NYTimes tonight about a college student who secretly videoed his roommate and broadcast it live on the Internet. A few days later the victim committed suicide. The student responsible for the video is being charged with invasion of privacy and could spend up to five years in jail. If being a despicable human being were against the law, he would be guilty. It strikes me that O'Keefe is the kind of person who would abuse his roommate like that, because he has no respect for anyone.

Increasingly, I am forced to conclude that many, if not most, Republicans are just plain terrible people. And the country reflects that when they are in power.

Plisko's picture

"We got the bubbleheaded bleach-blonde, comes on at 5
She can tell you about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die, give us dirty laundry"

O'Keef was quoting Don Henly not being some kind of anti feminist. Dirty Laundry is a song about the fall of the media and how blonds with lip gloss end up as news anchors.

O'Keef is a douche bag and I won't defend him. But if the "bubble headed bleach blond" line is what set off your rant about how woman's issues aren't making progress. . . then you better go after Don Henely instead because O'Keef was using the line in exactly the context it was intended. Todays media sucks and it is full of bubble headed bleach blonds being presented as arbiters of serious news. I don't know anything about this woman he was targeting. . . but I sing that bubble headed bleach blond line almost every day I watch the news on TV. Maybe you should go after me too. . . who knows. . .

Plisko's picture

Further more,

Nothing is more frustrating to a man than women being hired because they are pretty women and enjoying that job. . but then bitching because people only care that they are pretty. Try being a man applying for a bar-tending job sometime then tell me how pretty woman can't get a break. There were probably 100 people behind Boudreau in line that were more qualified (including probably many men) but THEY didn't look as good on camera. She got a job because she passed two major hurdles: she looked great and her resume was enough to qualify her as a professional hire. If she wants to be successful and respected she needs to do amazing work DESPITE the fact that she will get jobs just for those reasons alone. If people don't respect her work it could be because they have the hots for her but it could also be because she doesn't NEED to work that hard to keep her job and so her work kind of sucks.

I'm not sure that hunting down James O'keef to exploit his notorious reputation as an attention getting CNN story is the best way to achieve that goal of doing great work. I'll bet one of the more plane looking woman behind her in line for the job would have been pushing to report on one of the 1000 more pressing issues of our time.

karoli's picture

Anything that glorifies this group of punks is stupid. But that's beside the point, and honestly, I don't know too many women who would say they got a job because they're good-looking. Your whole premise ignores the fact that she is a talented, competent reporter who isn't afraid to do the work to get the story.

Sungrey's picture

Of course a woman isn't going to say she got a job due to her looks, but it is very common in broadcast journalism for a woman's looks to rate up there with their education and/or experience.

Andy K's picture

It's not as if Don Henley created the Dumb Blonde Joke, he simply used one- at the expense of women, but not the blown-dry male models with whom they share the anchor desk.

The point that O'Keefe seems to be trying to make here isn't necessarily about looks, but gender. Boudreau could have been on and off the boat in two minutes flat, but little Jimmy would still have enough tape of her to edit in order to prove that female journalists are willing to do anything to get a story. Even if she did nothing unseemly, he would have made it look like she did. Just like he did with ACORN.

Plisko's picture

"Well, I could've been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry"

Being that Don Henly is a male he is clearly talking about a man when he uses the word "I"

Boudreau was after dirty laundry in doing a story about O'Keef and is therefore part of the problem. I find it amazing that nobody want's to acknowledge that:

I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something, something I can use
People love it when you lose, they love dirty laundry

Well, I could've been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em all around

We got the bubbleheaded bleach-blonde, comes on at 5
She can tell you about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die, give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation? Is the head dead yet?
You know the boys in the newsroom got a running bet
Get the widow on the set, we need dirty laundry

You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone, keep your dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're stiff, kick 'em all around

Dirty little secrets, dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie
Love to cut you down to size, we love dirty laundry

We can do the innuendo, we can dance and sing
When it's said and done, we haven't told you a thing
We all know that crap is king, give us dirty laundry

Andy K's picture

Because the woman is a bubbleheaded bleach-blonde, while the guy from whose perspective the song is presented knows all the angles.

Your hole just got deeper.

Plisko's picture
OMG

Jesus Man. . . do you know who Megyn Kelly is?

Contrary to popular political correctness. . . bubble headed bleach blonds delivering empty headed news EXIST IN THE WORLD and we are allowed to criticize them as exactly that.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. . . or whatever non phallic metaphor you prefer.

Andy K's picture

Because any blonde (bleached or not), attractive (or unattractive) female on broadcast news programs MUST be bubble-headed! They don't even know that they're being used like some sort of moving Farrah Fawcett poster!

Jesus, give women a bit more credit for being as smart as- or as dumb as- men, huh?

Truth_Critic's picture

"THE ESSENCE OF NORMALCY... IS THE REFUSAL OF REALITY"--Ernest Becker


Study the symptoms not the virus...

quoting Don Henley. I would have expected that from Breitbart, but not this dude. Whether he used the lyric or not, there is a pervasive and ugly attitude toward women that comes from the right-wing, and that was really my point. Blonde, brunette, hispanic or black, it wouldn't have mattered. She was pretty, she was young, and she was a threat in his eyes. One he was ready to destroy.

ron's picture

but I was never able to connect to the debate last night. I know that C-span is biased but did they restrict the coverage? Did Brown kick some butt?

karoli's picture

Someone finally produced one at Davis that worked, but grrrrr. CSPAN will have it in their archive by now, I'm sure. Yes, Brown kicked butt, but his somewhat low-key earthy way. I would say that eMeg lost the debate more than Brown winning, though he did score some points. I'm just not sure they'll stick. If the polls are an indicator, he may not have to do much to win this race other than not make mistakes.

ron's picture

that they are unfair and unbalanced as Fox/. My friends and I were discussing about why News Corp named it Fox. Weasle seems so much more appropriate.

CruelWorld's picture

It seems that most people are overlooking one obvious truth. This scrawny little twerp honestly thought that he would be able to seduce this very attractive, smart woman.
What an arrogant piece of garbage this guy is.

neverbeenfooled's picture

This guy is a sociopath masquerading as an investigative journalist.

RuperttheBear's picture

Sexism isn't a disease. It isn't going to be eradicated like smallpox. And the fact that this man and his cohorts is a puerile simpleton doesn't sustain an indictment of the entire culture. Does the KKK's persistence mean the Civil Rights Movement was a failure? This urge to totalize and extirpate--the WAR ON TERROR is another example--oversimplifies problems and makes solutions unrealistic.

Louis Lemire's picture

Throw his ass in jail. He got a free ride when he committed a felony by wiretapping the phone of a Senator (or attempting to). Put his sorry ass in the county jail for 90 days. Let him think about it. Scumbag, but then he is a rePiglican.


Capitalism is that extraordinary notion that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of reasons, will work for the benefit of us all.

J.M. Keynes

kittycollins's picture

you know you'd love to hook up with O'Keefe in his floating pleasure palace.
(Barf, puke, gag)

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh's picture

That's why I could never date a disgusting, perverted Reslug.

NavyVet79-86's picture

I just did a search for "James O'Keefe" on FoxNews.com and got zero returns for the past week related to CNN. Shocking, isn't?

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Ass-punked?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Sungrey's picture

O'Keefe is a scumbag and should be in jail. Maybe we'll all get lucky and he will eventually do something stupid that will send him to prison.

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