New Documents Show Bush Administration Planned War in Iraq Well Before 9/11/2001
All of us knew it but couldn't prove it. Now we can prove it. Newly declassified documents published at the National Security Archive prove beyond all reasonable doubt that the Bush administration planned to topple Saddam Hussein and invade Iraq as early as January, 2001, and were making strategic plans and resource allocations as early as November, 2001.
January 30, 2001 – Bush administration principals (agency heads) meet for the
first time and discuss the Middle East, including Bush’s intention to disengage from the Israel-Palestine peace process and “How Iraq is destabilizing the region.” Bush directs Rumsfeld and JCS chairman Hugh Shelton to examine military options for Iraq; CIA director George Tenet is directed to improve intelligence on the country. Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill and counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke are both struck by the emphasis on confronting Iraq, an aim consistent with Rumsfeld’s hiring of Wolfowitz and later Feith, well known for their bellicosity on the issue, for high-level Pentagon
positions. (Source: EBB/Franks Timeline (PDF))
When did we invade Afghanistan? Oh, that's right...it was October 7, 2001.
Walking through these documents makes it clear that the Bush Administration -- from Day One -- intended to invade Iraq at some point in their reign of terror. Here is a memo (PDF) dated January 23, 2001 outlining the "Origins of the Iraq Regime Change Policy". This was requested by Vice President-elect Dick Cheney before taking office, presumably as a way to justify policy formation around aggressive US efforts for "regime change" in Iraq.
This memo (PDF) written on November 27, 2001 should send cold chills up and down your spine. It is a list of talking points from Rumsfeld to Franks about how to handle a run-up to a full-scale Iraq invasion. November 27th, 51 days after Afghanistan was invaded. And check this talking point:
Afghanistan was never, ever a priority for the Bush Administration. It was always about Iraq. To line up support for the plan, they were marshalling the Catholics and anyone else they could get to start forming arguments for "just wars". An internal memo from Robert Andrews, Dep. Assistant Secretary of Defense on December 17, 2001 touted this:
A prominent Catholic theologian outlines the moral justification for a pre-emptive strike against Iraq.
[...a list of reasons why it was so important follows]
- Introduces the concept of "regime factor,"
- illustrates the concept using the Iraq situation
- demonstrates how pre-emptive action against Iraq fits into the just-war tradition
That memo made its way to Douglas Feith, neocon extraordinaire, who left his approval in the margin:
George is a brilliant guy and a gentleman. Thanks for sending this along. DJF
Speaking strictly for me, the idea of Catholic aides to the Pope pushing wars as "just" to our government smacks of intervention not of the divine kind. The article itself pushes along the lie about WMD, too, reinforcing what we now know was nothing more than fantasy in the black hearts of Cheney and his neocon brigade. But it added to the political cover the Bush administration needed to push the Iraq effort forward.
Iraq, for Cheney, Bush and the crew, was a way to increase prestige and power. Nothing speaks to that louder than the oft-repeated words in this memo from Donald Rumsfeld on July 27, 2001 where he says this at least twice:
If Saddam's regime were ousted, we would have a much-improved position in the region and elsewhere.
The first time he mentions this, it's with some regret that we're not better friends with Iran. The second time he mentions it, it's in his closing argument for why toppling Saddam Hussein will strengthen US Arab-Israeli policy. It's like a talisman for Rumsfeld, this idea of improving our "US credibility and influence throughout the region".
Here's the punchline, courtesy of the National Security Archive summary:
At this point, the weight of evidence supports an observation made in April 2002 by members of the covert Iraq Operations Group – Iraq “regime change” was already on Bush’s agenda when he took office in January 2001. (Note 33) September 11 was not the motivation for the U.S. invasion of Iraq – it was a distraction from it.
Now, at least, our instinct about Iraq being the one true goal is confirmed. For whatever that's worth, anyway.
The only trouble is FDR wanted to help the English fight the Germans,
After the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, Congress declared war on the Japanese, knowing full well that Germany would probably declare war against us, since Japan was their ally.
So do we claim FDR set us up to get involved in WWII?
But since Iraq didn't attack us on 9-11, and Iraq had no connection to Al Qaeda or the Taliban, that's where the argument falls apart.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Primarily the fact that Germany, Italy, and Japan were obviously engaging in expansionist practices at the expenses of America's allies. The Bush Administration had to pretend that Iraq was planning to build weapons that could -- theoretically some day in the future -- possibly be a threat to someone else in the region. Just reducing the argument to, "Well, Japan conveniently attacked the US so FDR got his war," is a gross misunderstanding of the facts.
Pearl Harbor simply got the isolationist public to wake up and realize that, no, we could no longer take the vast ocean distances for granted and say that no one could or would try to attack American soil.
Now, if you want to get in to that conversation we could have it in re: WWI, Woodrow Wilson, and the Lusitania sinking. Or in re: the Spanish-American War and the "sabotage" of the USS Maine...
or, even further, such as Hawaii wound up being American "soil".
This is not new news. News of such documents had been leaked two years ago.
Where are the documents showing how much was paid to the Democrats in the Congress by the military industrial conplex to sign off on the war vote, or were they simply voting their conscience?
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Their own jobs, of course.
I suspect that they were simultaneously voting to support "American Might" as well as presevere their "phoney-baloney jobs". I remember hearing a speech by Hillary Clinton which implied that latter. With the GOP in ascendence most of the Dems didn't have the principle to stand up against it and the likely use of that stand against them the next election.
I suspect that if Obama had been in the Senate he would not have stood in the way of the Iraq war. It's one thing for an unknown state senator to oppose the war and quite another for a sitting Congressman: the former can always walk the statement back while the latter has a vote on the record.
I'm sure that the Democrats are also promising to bring investigations and subpoenas against the Bush Administration if we will only put them back into office.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
right?
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
the downing street memos basically showed the same thing (like 5 yrs ago)
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so do the PNAC documents that explicitly wish for a New Pearl harbor to gain public support.
Not exactly new news to those of us who were convinced years ago.
Sadly, I doubt this will make much of a difference.
Trying to use military power only exposes military weakness.
Diplomacy and peace are hard work, dropping bombs and starting wars are just too easy.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
a good confirmation of what many of us alreeady knew. Will anybody guess what Chene's secret energy meetings were about? It a great confirmation about how fascism works.
When you recall that the late Matt Simmons -- a Harvard MBA who successfully ran an investment bank specializing in the energy industry for over two decades -- was not only part of Cheney's Energy Task Force but also a prominent member of the Peak Oil movement, it's not hard to see how this might have been connected to the War In Iraq. (In fact, there are some who wonder if Simmons's death was entirely accidental.)
Simmons's belief in Peak Oil was always based on the fact that some of the oil-producing countries -- most notably the Saudis -- have been somewhat cagey and evasive when it comes to reporting just how much petroleum they still have on reserve, and he suspected that many of these reports have been deliberately exaggerated (probably at least in part because the economies of many of these nations are so heavily dependent on their petroleum exports). Of the five countries which our own Department of Energy ranks as having the largest reserves of petroleum -- a resource on which our country is so heavily dependent that it amounts to an addiction -- only two are not on friendly terms with the United States. Care to guess what those two countries are?
Did you guess Iraq and Iran? If you did, give yourself a gold star!
So if there's any truth to Simmons's suspicions -- and given that the man specialized in the energy industry for over two decades, you'd think he might be in a position to know -- would the possibility that the world's estimate petroleum reserves are smaller than reported be enough to prompt our government to invade one (if not both) of the two remaining countries with the largest oil reserves in attempt to grab it for ourselves? I think you have to acknowledge that it very probably would be, even though the likelihood of the government actually acknowledging this publicly would be slim at best. (Then again, when the initial plan for the War In Iraq were drawn up, what was it called again? Oh, yes...Operation Iraqi Liberation, or OIL. Freudian slip, maybe?)
(Then again, there are others who believe that the Peak Oil movement itself is little more than a politically convenient conspiracy designed to justify higher energy costs and intimidate the American people into accepting the necessity of war in the Middle East...so the possibility can't be entirely ruled out that these people had us coming and going, and were laughing all the way to the bank.)
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
just shows how arrogant these thugs were and are. May they all get what they deserve--three times over.
I would have guessed Venezuela too. So I guess I'd just get a silver star.
D'Oh!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Considering the claims that the United States government attempted to incite/stage a coup d'etat in Venezuela in an attempt to oust Hugo Chavez -- most likely with the intent of installing a more US-friendly puppet in his place, much like we originally did in Iran with the Shah -- I'd say that you definitely deserve a silver star for that one, even though the most significant and most blatant saber-rattling has been against Iraq and Iran (probably because they have larger reserves).
For the record, the three friendly countries among the top five with the largest oil reserves are Saudi Arabia (largest proven reserves), Canada (second-largest reserves), and Kuwait (fifth-largest reserves). The Iranian and Iraqi reserves are third and fourth on the list in terms of size.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
"Empire of Oil" is very interesting (except they appear to either be wrong about all the North American Union stuff or the timing is just off....):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=67020...
I believe that there is a snippet of GWB in this video where he says, "We're running out of energy people!!"
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
is another good primer. It's a BBC documentary showing the simultaneous rise of the neoconservative movement and radical Islam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4JvqWlCcyU
Cheney's secret energy meetings??? (That's just more 'conspiracy' stuff, doncha know)
in the military, I would be enormously offended that the Bush Administration so callously put my life or those of a loved one in harm's way. All the while giving the facade of weighing all options and taking seriously the prospect of going to "war."
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
From WikiPedia:
A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm
The document itself:
A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm
Search for first reference to Iraq:
Read the rest. It's a blueprint for Israeli and US actions in the Middle East throughout the Bush years.
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So is it still hyperbolic to refer to them as war criminals now?
Hyperbole--not to be taken seriously. Why doesn't any MSM harp on this? Oh, right! The MSM is owned by those invested in the ginned up wars.
before they got into office. The PNAC docs, which also were written and published before that, clearly outline the neo-con 'defense strategy' for establishing forward military bases in the ME and providing a platform for securing (stealing) energy resources.
"September 11 was not the motivation for the U.S. invasion of Iraq – it was a distraction from it."
It was not a distraction, it was the necessary factor for getting Americans to 'approve' a pre-emptive war. If there had been no 'attack' on the US, how many regular folks would have stood by/supported the adventure of Big Oil using our troops to secure oil reserves during 'peace time' ??
Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Wofowitz, Feith, Kristol, and all of the signatories to the PNAC who planned and perpetrated this invasion of a sovereign nation should be prosecuted at the Hague for war crimes. Hopefully more documented evidence will surface to make that a real possibility.....before Darth's new 'fake' heart stops.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
doesn't have any good targets.
Extremely malleable puppet government? Primitive people with no resources? I guess it depends on how one defines the word "target?"
they have a lot of resources - OPIUM
Bingo!
And it's been Fux's job to keep 'em scared and stoopid so they'll fall for the next trick (Iran?).
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
is a signatory too. Was helpful he was the Gov to help get his brother (who isn't a signatory...just wanted to 'get Saddam' .....probably to show his daddy what a 'man' he is) and Cheney (a fellow PNACer) into office so they could make sure to start to re-make the ME.
In January, 2001,Jeb Bush put out an executive order for the State of Florida detailing stuff about how the state was going to be governed and that particular EO was supposed to cover the governance until 2003. Well, lo' and behold, on Sept 7, 2001, he put out another EO, which SUPERSEDED the original one...and Number 3 point was something about making sure the National Guard would be brought up in case of 'natural disasters (which I always thought was in the State Charters to begin with) and
any terrorist activities........
Last I heard he was 'doing fine' at home after FINALLY leaving a hospital.....IF he has left the hospital. He must have been transferred to another one when it was in the news he had left...
>>>>
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
he's drawn to himself. Look out Liz. Have you learned nothing but evil from the old bastard?
I'm astounded by the cognitive acrobatics people will employ in order to avoid the obvious. It's like creationists saying God put the fossils everywhere to test our faith.
OK, I won't hold my breath waiting for the apology to all of us progressives who knew that the cheney/bush administration was rife with the worst kind of war criminals from the beginning. Yes, we knew as early as 9/11/01. You could see it in bush's beady eyes as he sat in that classroom, realizing that he was personally complicit in the deaths of over 3000 people.
Just hope they kept the noose used on sadaam in their second illegal war...
We're not supposed to talk about conspiracy theories here.
But don't expect US to stick around!
Bush was thinking: 'DAMN...they really did this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
this? I am the decider."
Yeah, he had that kind of look a kid gets when the teacher found out about something bad he did.
U.S. sought attack on al-Qaida: White House given plan days before Sept. 11
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4587368/
US 'planned attack on Taleban'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1550366...
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
...so he can put Eric Holder to work on this.
perhaps we could re-assemble the 9/11 comission to take a look at 9/11 again?
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Is that before or after they fix healthcare as Pelosi promised.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
...right after Guantanamo is closed.
(don't wanna overload Eric Holder)
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I wonder if Ms Pelosi, in the interest of bipartisanship is going to put impeachment back on the table.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
So does that mean the Obama Administration will be prosecuting the War Criminals for Crimes against Humanity any day now?
Oh sorry, his Justice Department is busy fighting to protect DADT right now. Carry on. Look forward, not behind folks.
we know this, and we know obama is not really changing a thing, only putting the iron fist into a velvet glove.
Oil and the Regime of Capitalism:
Questions to Philosophers of the Future
http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=658
PNAC or The Project for a New American Century also generally called for all this and more back in September of 2000 in their published article "Rebuilding America's Defenses" Extremely good and interesting read for any policy wonds or politically minded journalists.
This is the paper where the quote:
Comes from.
Here's the people involved:
Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush
Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes
Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle
Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz
Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen
Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
of 'Rebuilding America's Defenses"
talks about turning bioweapons away from 'the realm of terror into a politically useful tool."
Also, on page 22/23 lists three objectives:
1. Secure natural resources
2. Transform the Middle East
3. Maintain a PERMANENT presence in the Persian Gulf Region.
before 9/11 also
.http://www.globalissues.org/article/342/the-usa-patriot-act-was-planned-before-911
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It did seem kind of hokey that they produced a 1000 page document with only a moment's notice.
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The Anglo-American War Machine requires oil.
Without adequate oil the Anglo-American War Machine cannot invade and occupy other nations.
Without invading and occupying other nations the Anglo-American War Machine will run out of oil.
Therefore the Anglo-American War Machine MUST invade and occupy other nations.
Quid Erat Demonstatum
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If the presidency is stolen twice by the Bush Bastards, then did we expect anything less? I remember clearly thinking that the Florida recount was unprecedented in US history. And if Bush won after the MSM had declared Gore the winner, then I knew the fix was in. Four years later, same shit, different state (Ohio).
It boils my blood to think that this treasonous bunch have killed and maimed millions of innocent people. Yet, here we are with proof that war crimes were committed but Obama and his damn mantra of "Don't look backward, keep looking forward" will set a precedent that crimes do pay for future presidential administrations.
won't mean a thing if Issa gets what he wants....doesn't matter President Obama seems to be covering the Bush Adm.'s ass.....he'll be investigated up the ying-yang..and back down again....
by anyone is that they won't do it again. Not guilty. Look forward, not backward. And I thought BHO was not going to interfere in the DOJ? HA!
sent this stuff non-stop. And nothing has come from it. NOTHING.
I know I have talked about "9/11: Press For Truth"
The companion piece is: 'In Their Own Words" which brings out even more stuff about how they families investigating 9/11 were so jerked around by the FBI...how NORAD changed it's timeline at least 3 documented times....etc...It also discusses those 'put-options' that were made days previous to 9/11 on American and United Airlines. And how 'thoroughly', (NOT), the SEC checked that out... very interesting stuff...also sent both of those links to everyone I could think of...still NOTHING....
not even any response from Democrats (hahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaa) I have sent them to..the ones you can get through to.
I wonder if Colin Powell will break his vow of silence now? Probably not, but there's no doubt in my mind now that Powell knew damn well he was lying to the U.N. prior to the invasion.
I was truly disappointed in that he didn't at least resign when he knew what crap was coming down....such a 'good soldier' he was.
Lawrence Wilkerson was Powell's Chief of Staff until he resigned out of protest..
George W. Bush 'knew Guantánamo prisoners were innocent'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/u...
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/04/bush-knew-...
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Col Wilkerson talks about (from his remarks in the 'The Oral History of The Bush White House' in February's 2009 VANITY FAIR) having to make sure and present the facts Condi would have to talk about to look like the Bush Adm. was interested in al-Qaeda...
...in the video I saw, he said, 'information was massaged.......'
will try to find the link. And he kinds 'dismisses' the 'conspiracy theorists'...in a condescending way....
Russia Today covered the story..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9fUzPDMtMM
Col. Lawrence Wilkerson on Tyranny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_npwnbZDEQ
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
the UN also knew Powell was lying to the UN.
Finally, vindication for Bush's first Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill?
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
Paul O'Neil didn't fit well in the Bush crime family syndicate.
Thank You karoli. Thank You Crooks & Liars. And Thank you to all the Patriotic Americans who are sick of putting up with this B.S. in our Country. Much Appreciated!
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
all of you are here when you could be hippie punching with Susie on the earlier post.
Just sayin'
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
http://**********.com/news/2010-09-12/lawrenc...
But there is discussion about the 'massaging the info' for Condi's testimony in this.
Until such time that the architects of this criminal operation are indicted, handcuffed, arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced to prison for their crimes, this great nation shall have its international stature diminished, as demonstrated by our hypocrisy, arrogance, and failed political system.
George W. Bush is on record multiple times insisting that the use of force to effect regime change in Iraq was the "last resort".
If Eric Holder will not indict Bush and Cheney for felonious assault, fraud and violation of Article 2 of the Constitution then he is complicit in these crimes.
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
Does this suprise anyone?
and Obama will continue to look forward, not backward.
Tragically, nothing will likely happen to these murdering War Criminals because Obama and his Justice Department are part of the problem, not the solution. Moving on is equally as criminal. They call it being an accomplice and not prosecuting these people for murder condones what they did. All the death, hideous injuries, illnesses, suffering and people displaced for nothing, not to mention bankrupting two countries. I am ashamed of my country on so many levels these days, but this one is far and away the worst.
over into the region. I for the life of me at that time could not believe we were sending ground troops. Why risk American lives when we have the technology and arms that we do? Not to mention the cost - that money could have been used in so many more constructive ways to make the US more secure. Not to mention what happended to the Russians with their invasion.|
No doubt it was just a step to Iraq - a great excuse to send American troops to the region. And nine years later we are still there with Americans dying and millions spent daily while this country crumbles.
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
Not that the man works very hard to make it to the top.
Just that he gets very lucky and very rich at the same time.
That's the official story.
And it's even sicker than had Bush worked very hard to make it happen in order to get very rich off killing Iraqis.
I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?
Really.
Even if you are one.
Just makes you a Judas.
Catholicism can do no wrong because the Pope is God Incarnate.
I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?
(although not restricted to Friday anymore).
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6-IIXAF5HOE/SWK4jt1...
TFR
thing to motivate people to go vote in the pot legalization election.
TFR
Our loss tally in Iraq is at 4500, however how many are so disabled they are in limbo, too hurt to go on with life ? There are worse things than death. What Bush/Cheney cartel has done is beyond despicable. Sending troops with unarmoured vehicles, delaying death benefits to our military. But, what good would come from spending millions to convict them ? And it would take millions, both are so connected they won't be allowed to fall. Right now, Obama has all he can do, to get America back on course. It makes me angry that conservatives scream about spending, where was this concern in the last 8 years ? Our government is a house that was not maintained and it takes money to get it back in shape.
Our reputation is ruined. We have very little, if any, goodwill left with other nations. We look like idiots. Many of us feel like idiots. The inmates are running the asylum. Corporations, who have all the rights of actual humans, own the asylum. There is so much more, but I'm getting nauseous thinking about it.
A determined prosecutor from DOJ could burn them down. Easily.
“We work with power where we can,” the Family's leader, Doug Coe, says, “build new power where we can't.” At the 1990 National Prayer Breakfast,
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(1924- ) 41st US President, CIA Director, CFR Director, Trilateralist, Yale Skull & Bones Society
Date: before Congress on September 11, 1990 (Noted date conflict)
Source: in a speech Bush entitled "Toward a New World Order"
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The Iraqi leader was given a final warning six weeks ago, Clinton said, when Baghdad promised to cooperate with U.N. inspectors at the last minute just as U.S. warplanes were headed its way.
Along with Prime Minister Tony Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning, Clinton said.
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2009 (57th Annual NPB) Tony Blair, former Prime Minister of the UK
PS. It used to be Communists... they call'em terrorists now. Because most live in fear of an invisible-man.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
A determined prosecutor could not do it. These people, the Bushes, Cheneys, and more have more connections to power than you can imagine. The best we can hope for is thinking people, conservative, independents, republicans, democrats will begin to ignore political views and work together to keep the Congresspeople who are speaking out, in office. I mean the Frankens, the Graysons, the Weiners, even Voinivich. There are good people who haven't been bought but they must get tired of swimming upstream all the time. The public somehow must reward those that actually work to the good of America instead of themselves. Ask yourself, why would someone spend millions to get a job that pays $150,000 ? Power and prestige.
Especially with the backing of the current administration, or at least without being hindered by it. "Silence is betrayal." MLK.
"He that is good for making excuses, is seldom good for anything else." Benjamin Franklin.
"Experience isn't interesting till it begins to repeat itself.; in fact,till it does that, it hardly is experience." Elizabeth Bowen.
"The biggest human temptation is to settle for too little." Thomas Merton. This last one could be the official motto of the current administration. What a shame.
Yes, it's a big "duh". Because we all had the instinct about it, and it fit the neocon agenda. But it is one thing to know it (sort of like "I can't describe it but I know it when I see it") and another thing to prove it.
Whether anything is done about it or any prosecutions never happen, this is solid, hard evidence to put in the face of people you know who think Iraq was somehow related to anything other than greed and ambition.
Or to put it another way, I suppose I could have read all of those documents and shrugged, said "duh". And there they'd sit, buried on the Internet in the name of "duh", dooming those who don't bother with history to repeat it.
Thank you karoli, I much prefer facts over faith when the evidence becomes available... afterall I believe that's pretty much what caused the issue to begin with. IMO
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Is the reality starting to sink in?
8 Months before 9-11, they planning to invade Iraq but need a good "reason".
A day before 9-11, Bush signs off on the Afghanistan invasion plan, just waiting for a good "reason".
They must just be the luckiest sons a bitches around.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100923/ap_on_re_...
http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=49445
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
..don't. As my last line indicates, 9-11 proved to be more of a distraction than an argument for what they were going to do.
I think you can say that 9/11 was probably more of a distraction to what they wanted to do but you can't say that 9/11 proved to be a distraction.
If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?
This revelation is just the latest in a series which prove the war mongering nature of the Bush/Cheney administration. One of the first was the "Downing Street Memo" which is an internal message of the British Govt suggesting that Bush was going to fudge the facts in order to do whatever it took to go to war with Iraq.
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