CQ Politics Runs Cover For Rep. Joe Wilson - Outburst Possibly Caused By Stress Of Having Sons In The Military
South Carolina Republican Joe Wilson has since apologized for his buffoonery during President Obama's speech last night, but the genie is already out of the bottle. He spoke his racist mind and he, like much of his teabagging base, just couldn't contain his hatred of the president and brown people.
Less than 24 hours later, CQ Politics is coming to the rescue! You see, it's not that Wilson is an unhinged biggot, it's just that he's under a lot of stress right now because he has four sons in the military and some could be deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan:
You might be a little stressed out, too, if you had four sons in the military services these days.
Rep. Joe Wilson's "Lie! You lie!" outburst during President Obama's healthcare address was uncharacteristic of the four-term South Carolina Republican, observers say.
But Wilson, a colonel in the state's national guard himself, has four sons in the military services, two of whom have served in Iraq.
Wilson's spokesman did not respond to a question as to whether his sons' military situations contributed to his emotional outburst.
I'm not trying to minimizing Wilson's sons' service or the stress that all parents feel when their child is in the military during a time of war. I am, however, calling out CQ's Jeff Stein for pulling this garbage straight out of his backside. Make no mistake -- Wilson's outburst was pure, blind rage. Wilson clearly states in his "apology" that he was sorry for his actions, but he still believes Obama is a liar:
"While I disagree with the president's statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable," said Wilson, who sits on the armed services and foreign affairs committee. Read on...
Wilson's outburst got more attention on the news last night than anything Obama said.
Coincidence? Maybe.
It's so irritating when such childish Republicans and teabaggers monopolize the debate when it comes to health care or anything progressive.
Though I may not agree with republicans on most issues and this should not be an issue, Joe has the right to say what he may. Look, there should be respect for president of the good ole US of A when speaking but he,Joe, has the freedom to voice his opinion. Don't take that away.
This wouldn't be an issue if the Thugs hadn't called anyone who called out Bush on his stuff traitors, seditious and people in need of execution.
Thanks for signing up and voicing your 'concern' over his 'free speech.'
So what you are saying he can pipe up inappropriately, but for people on a blog to criticise, we are interfering w/ HIS free speech? It's ok for you to 'take away' our right to voice OUR opinions.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
me-oww!
say what you like, I do care, I'm listening
taking away Mr. Wilson's right to free speech. We're just holding him accountable to what he says.
He calls Obama a liar during a speech... well, all points of decorum aside, Mr. Wilson is wrong about what he said. The President didn't lie. Mr. Wilson is just making shit up.
If you want to make shit up, by all means, help yourself (not you JohnnyRock, but those that like to make shit up). However, they shouldn't cry like a baby when they get called out onto the floor for it.
Mr. Wilson got to say what he wanted. His freedom of speech was never hindered. No one is going to stop him from behaving like an idiot in the future when he opens his mouth and spews out something asinine.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
...my wife last night asked me what a "concern troll" is and now I have a defining specimen.
Obama made a great speech and the top story is that some jerk interrupted him. He discussed important points and gave lots of information that people should hear.
What is wrong with our media?
I hope and pray when he runs in his state they will show this piece and he will lose. For this prick to use his sons that are in the military like Palin son is disgraceful. I am a wife of a retired soldier and I take offense to that. I pray that his sons who are soldiers would not disrepect their commander in chief.
Southern Yankee
Joe is not a jerk and Obama not a liar. Can I use the word n*t.
he's a 24 karat hypocrite.
me-oww!
it does matter what you think and believe, just make sure you 're on your side. just like me you strive to achieve.
Logan, you're already reproducing the meme:
"Make no mistake -- Wilson's outburst was pure, blind rage."
THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. His outburst has nothing to do with rage or emotions or stress over his sons. It was a planned bit of propaganda, a publicity stunt, KNOWING FULL WELL that the (U.S.) media would key in on it.
And guess what, it worked. (Except abroad, where people seem to be covering the content of the speech. I didn't see a single mention of the jeers.)
They picked the representative least likely to lose his seat for calling Obama a liar. No worries.
and when dems call this out and outline their own policies rather than defending them against conservative talking polnts, they will be one step closer to building their party.
ie, stop kowtowing to bullies. start to focus on what dems are about. . they're in charge and must take the lead.
agreed
Had her two only sons in Iraq and Afghanistan and I did not see her acting like an unhinged bitch.
Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.
...My excuses are spectacular.
After all its his party and ex-president that did all they could to get America and by extension his 4 sons into war. The guilt would have me a little unhinged too.
Obviously it was simply that time of the month.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Bill paying?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
He was giddy
If Obama was talking about Afghanistan or Iran, or some other new war du-jour it might make sense.
But he was talking about medical care; the kind of care returning war vets will need.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Show your true colors and be the bad guy then play the victim. Bravo for predictability.
to avoid the truth and self-disclosure that he is a damned liar.
this was no more a spontaneous outburst than Cindy Sheehan wearing that anti-Bush tee-shirt.
It is interesting to me that it is the GOPukes who are leading the deconstruction of politics, fomenting the theatrics of it, casting doubt by their hijinks on the presumed seriousness of the enterprise...This is politics by King Ubu, the monarch of absurdism and precursor of surrealism. And because they have the "microphone" (as t'were), their absurdities and affectations and rampant, manifest idiocies actually DEFINE the narrative. It's as if they decided that if they can no longer be in control even for so brief a period as four years, they're willing to erode the foundations and raze the entier edifice...
It's never their fault. No idea about personal responsibility. They think it's when someone spends themselves into bnky, trying to pay medical bills that insurance didn't cover.
me-oww!
Where was this concerned, earnest assessor of prevaricating presidents when the simian warmonger was invading a sovereign nation and directly responsible for the deaths of 300K Iraqi civilians?? This outburst was straight-ahead partisan politics and reflective of the highly-developed Republican lizard brain. The excuse for his behavior is laughable.
"Secular humanism -- a fearless, realistic world view replete with doubt and scepticism that attempts to attain an unachievable state of equilibrium between and among the human qualities of reason, intuition, imagination, memory, ethics and common sense.
whether or not it was pure, blind rage, we cannot know that, only surmise.
He is still responsible for his actions.
btw: in prev. threads and elsewhere in discussions of this incident, the Brit/Canadian shouters & hecklers were mentioned. note that calling an mp a liar is not protected by parliamentary privilege and if offender does not immediately apologize, they can be removed from the House and suspended for five days.
In the Canadian and British parliaments/House of Commons, a member is turfed by the Speaker if he or she uses the term "liar" when referring to another member. The respective Speakers are also not taken in by the ploy of a member stating something like "Although I am not permitted to describe a fellow member as a liar, I would like to describe .. . blah, blah, blah . ." That age-old strategy was likely nicked at Eton or one of the other lovely, English upper-crust preparatory schools.
"Secular humanism -- a fearless, realistic world view replete with doubt and scepticism that attempts to attain an unachievable state of equilibrium between and among the human qualities of reason, intuition, imagination, memory, ethics and common sense.
can get his sons in now that his campaign is over.
Why does Mitt hate America?
wasn't chosen to be Mitt America?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHUfy_YBps&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
None of his sons are deployed overseas.
I think the stress of being an ignorant bigot, combined with the possibility of losing both his seat and congress and all the lobbying money that goes with it, are the real cause of his outburst.
is running for SC Atty Gen...if this is true
http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2009/09/09/wilso...
I think the first assessment of "UN-HINGED BIGGOT" probably holds a lot more water. Now he'll go down in GOP history as a hero who DARED speak "truth" to power. His "Q" rating will float somewhere between that idiot psudo-plumber... and that other idiot who got bored with her Governor job in Alaska.
now a hero to nativist, anti-immigrant bigots faction of the repug party.
What a crock of shit.
I see that Wilson is on insannity's show right now. I won't watch him, although I did hear him say that "Obama's cash for clunkers program was off by $3 billion...."....therefore, I guess he's claiming other programs, including healthcare, will be spending more than what is currently being projected.
How about the Iraq War, Mr. Wilson????? One of Bush's advisors before the war was fired because he projected war costs to be substantially more than what Bush wanted to hear.
God, these people are bastards.
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079
I sense a shoe-in for 2010!
But a shoe in what?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
No pun intended!
Wilson's four sons in the military must be REAL proud of their dear old dad now.
If there are any SC residents reading and posting comments on the C&L blog, what do you think of all this with your governor and his love affair in Argentina and now with Joe Wilson screaming like a 7-year-old at the president? Is SC really the most corrupt state in the south? - No hard feelings to the dems, progressives, and independents of the Palmetto State - I understand that your helping to finance a Democratic candidate to replace him which has now surpassed $400,000 in campaign contributions in less than a day for his run in 2010. Good luck with getting a representative who runs on reason rather than emotions!
...just being a plain dork.
I wonder how much progress would've been made over the past 8-16 years without the Republican's negative energy.
let us talk about how we can move things forward.
i said it before wilson's out burst was staged. that's how ridiculous it has gotten. this is reality politics for certain demographic(s) on the right. this clown will be a hero to some. there's enough HATE out their. some people dig this shxt.......being rude because they can. i'm sick of it.
classic conservative (rovian) tactics...works every time. momentum/focus gone.
Although talking about shrillson a lot since this happened, there has been a decided turn in the media (at least in the media I listen to) toward not only a serious discussion of the topic but also a certain sympathy toward "the president" (as the chief executive of our country, not necessarily Obama himself). The old-timers in the media seem to be gravitating toward "a dialog of respect."
I think Wilson's outburst, while certainly calculated, may have shot both him and opposition to insuring more people who lack it, in the ass.
focus is on the health care initiatives spelled out by Obama? notwithstanding the overreach rudeness?
a) they knew word-for-word what Obama was going to say (so you can't exactly be surprised)
b) they know the U.S. media is much more interested in circus than substance.
c) they know what's in the bill (there's explicitly no protection for illegals)
d) they know illegals is a hot-button issue
e) they know Wilson's seat is safe (he's in solid deep-south red territory)
IT WAS PLANNED. Can we start with that premise, please?
After last night's heavy traffic I guess this is appropriate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtNFQ7RJbaQ
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Thanks, ysb. I really enjoyed that.
He's not the only person with a son in the military. It's a shame he's not mature enough to handle the stress load then.
Major General Paul Eaton points out that a significant portion of the military have sons in the military. Where would we all be if they couldn't continue to do there jobs like mature adults?
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This morning on CBS morning news they were interviewing this ass-hole's son, running for Attorney General in their state talking about how, "I'm proud of my deddy..."
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Joe Wilson chose to support the Iraqi War. He has demeaned those who would not support the lies of Bush and Cheney.
His sons have shown great character in following what they believe. However, why did Joe retire(skipped out?)from the reserves in 2003 after voting for the Iraqi War Resolution in 2002?(He was in a mechanized infantry unit.)
My advice to Joe's enablers is you need to be honest with yourself, others, and God, but not necessarily in that order.
At least he didn't yell "You lie, n****r"
I said that he would be defended by these dittiots begining with fat boy, well I was right;
http://mediamatters.org/limbaughwire/2009/09/...
These people are so transparent its sad. I am watching Countdown now and Olbermann is going to do a SC on the republican't love of being wrong, cant wait to see it. As for this guys sons, I dont remember hearing him call out "You lie!" to the man who put them in danger in Iraq in the first place so thats a non story.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
If Wilson can't control his mouth during an event such as a presidential speech, it calls into question his ability to think rationally. He probably should resign and seek therapy.
to act like an asshole. He's a childish idiot, who according to a story in the NY Times, has the approval of the majority of his constituents for his outlandish behavior. Ignorant, uncouth, or just bad home training? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? Disgusting.
He was distraught over his sons.WTF? How stupid do these people thnk we are? His little performance was planned and had nothing to do with Iraq or Afghanistan. He is a douche bag and is full of shit. If he is so sorry then why did he post a video plugging his campagin website and asking for money b/c he claims people are trying to "silence" him? Wow
They play the martyr roll to the hilt, don't they?
He's not worried about how stupid WE are.
He's worried about how stupid the crackers, rubes, dimwits and shitheads WHO VOTED for him are.
You see, (I realize this is a long shot) but if they STOP USING CRAYONS and START USING THEIR HEADS, this goof will get voted out. Then he has ONLY ONE ALTERNATIVE---
FuckNews...they'll give him his own show. Ask Mark("turn the page") Foley. He knows how this works.
Especially a black man who holds a higher position than the white southerner.
This is such a surprise. Not.
And don't give me crap about how many of you are southerners and are so surprised by this. As soon as I heard that a sitting senator screamed a slur at a president during a major speech for what seems to be the first time in history (at least during televised history) I knew it was a male southerner. And you probably knew it, too.
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Bigot has one g. It would be equivalent to spelling "******" as "Fagit" if written by a 'bagger. If we have any pride at all it should be in having pride in spelling our epithets correctly.
Where was this Jeff Stein character when Cindy Sheehan was being crucified?
So CQ is saying Jimbo is unable to do his job correctly because of stress?
Instead of trying to prevent the US from invading Iraq, he was busy crafting this important piece of SC state legislation, H 3818:
A HOUSE RESOLUTION
TO REQUEST THAT THE DIXIE CHICKS APOLOGIZE TO THE MILITARY FAMILIES IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND THE UNITED STATES FOR THE UNPATRIOTIC AND UNNECESSARY COMMENTS MADE BY THEIR LEAD SINGER BEFORE THEY BEGIN THEIR UNITED STATES TOUR ON MAY 1, 2003, IN GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND TO REQUEST THAT THEY PERFORM A FREE CONCERT FOR TROOPS AND MILITARY FAMILIES IN SOUTH CAROLINA AS AN EXPRESSION OF THEIR SINCERITY.
Whereas, the Dixie Chicks are a popular and influential country music group from Texas; and
Whereas, before a recent London concert, Natalie Maines, the lead singer of the Dixie Chicks, said that she was ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas; and
Whereas, members of the United States Armed Forces are outraged at the anti-American sentiment expressed by the Dixie Chicks; and
Whereas, there is a large military presence in the State of South Carolina, whom the Dixie Chicks have offended by their comments; and
Whereas, before the Dixie Chicks kick off their United States tour in Greenville on May 1, 2003, the House of Representatives and the people of South Carolina request that Natalie Maines apologize and that the group perform a free concert for the South Carolina servicemen and women and their families.
The four sons in the military defense doesn't work when you're not trying to prevent a bullshit war.
aren't the Republicans' strong suits.
Here's a beautiful summation of "then and now" from Tom Tomorrow.
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2009/09/08/t...
Given Wilson's lack of brains, I believe he had a script in front of him telling him to shout out when Obama said the word immigrants. Stupid sheep need to be put in their place--a dark corner.
Just go to his website: his biggest issue is illegal immigration.
It's most certainly a conspiracy, planned and approved by leaders of the Republican party.
They created the propaganda moment, they wrote the script, they acted it out at the right moment, and like any corporate PR stunt, it was pulled off without anybody in the media asking, "Did we just get punked?" "Have we just spent news time selling someone's product?"
BECAUSE THE MEDIA ARE DUMBER THAN THE REPUBLICANS. They've been falling for the same tactics over and over and over.
Like the L.A news, they mindlessly send out the choppers to follow the car chase, never asking "why?" or "are we providing a valuable service here?" or "are we just contributing to the perpetuation of this idiocy?"
the media are brethren in the corporate propaganda coup.
edit: (re: BECAUSE THE MEDIA ARE DUMBER THAN THE REPUBLICANS. They've been falling for the same tactics over and over and over.)
If this moron is too stupid to get his kids out of the military he should call Cheney. Just don't call John McCain! While I love my country, I can admit that I'm a coward and would not be willing to die for it! Sorry!
Joe Wilson should be thrown in the brig for disrespting a superior officer.
What the bloody hell does that have to do with healthcare?
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
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So far since last night Wilson's opponent Rob Miller has garnered over $690,000--donate over at ActBlue. Over 18,000 people have contributed.
The right wing are pathetic , absolutely pathetic . Too much in breeding , gotta be .
the family trees in South Carolina tend to run in a straight line at times.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
par for the far right wing. He has ties to militant racist right-wing Sons of the Confederacy and instead of keeping his head down like a good operative would do, he has made an international ass of himself.
No excuse for his childish behavior because everybody knows that Reslugs hate our troops, and uncaringly don't support them when they return, so Wilson lies again.
If Wrong Way Joe is so "stressed" over sons in the military he would STOP supporting funding for WAR! He would, most certainly, stop supporting TORTURERS.
AND, since he violated military codes of conduct, he should be stripped of his rank, lose his "pension" as have OTHERS higher up than he is AND, not only be censured in Congress, but EXPELLED! If he is not smart enough to understand he is not at a pep rally when in a joint session of Congress and DUTY BOUND TO SHOW RESPECT TO THE PRESIDENT WITHOUT COACHING AND REGARDLESS OF HIS PERSONAL "beliefs", he has NO business being there at all.
I, personally, would go further and censure ALL those THUGS who flipped their signs and rattled their fake "plans" and put on the most disgusting show of FACE MAKING, as well!
THOSE THUGS DISRESPECTED ALL OF US WITH THAT ACT AND SHOULD ALL BE CALLED ON THE CARPET FOR IT!
If that’s the case why didn’t Wilson call Bush a liar for sending his sons into a war based on lies. I didn’t see Biden or McCain have an outburst, their sons are in Iraq.
Cus I was thinkin' he did it because he's a racist, tea- baggin',southern, white, moron. Oh' I almost forgot...Now he's a victim too. Every time you'd think the bar couldn't possibly go any lower...To paraphrase Keith from last night.Since when did stupidity become the national past-time?
Give Rep. Wilson his 15 mins of fame - just like another "Joe" the plumber ----he will be a thing of the past - we didn't know him before or will again unless he does something inappropriate again.
As for all the folks buying his t-shirts or donating money ----- he voted for giving taxpayers $ to help with illegal health care in the past......now he's changed...fine.......
but if all the Hannity, Dobbs, Beck's of the world really want to change and stop illegals ----then WHITE PEOPLE need to stop hiring them! Plain and simple! Quit paying them under the table or if you own a big business check their paper work more closely -----it's not minorities hiring them - it's us! There's a $10,000 fine per illegal on the books - if people read about businesses or employers getting fined more ---this would stop!
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