Glenn Beck Urges Listeners To Leave Churches Preaching Social Justice
Paul Krugman recently wrote that he thought that Republicans and Democrats no longer occupy the same universe with one another. Certainly, my understanding of Christianity isn't the same as Glenn Beck's, when he advised his listeners to leave their churches if those churches focus on social justice:
Glenn Beck set out to convince his audience that "social justice," the term many Christian churches use to describe their efforts to address poverty and human rights, is a "code word" for communism and Nazism. Beck urged Christians to discuss the term with their priests and to leave their churches if leaders would not reconsider their emphasis on social justice.
"I'm begging you, your right to religion and freedom to exercise religion and read all of the passages of the Bible as you want to read them and as your church wants to preach them . . . are going to come under the ropes in the next year. If it lasts that long it will be the next year. I beg you, look for the words 'social justice' or 'economic justice' on your church Web site. If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words. Now, am I advising people to leave their church? Yes!"
Now, I'm going to set aside the troubling implicit admission of the selfishness of the Mormon Church by this LDS convert for the moment. I just have to ask if Beck has read the same Bible as the rest of us:
"Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me."
"Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?"
"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." (Matthew 25:34-40)
Now that seems pretty clear to me that Jesus said that you need to do good works with those less fortunate than you and that he felt it was critical that you show his devotion to Him by doing so. But maybe Beck missed that sermon.
He then went on to conflate communism and Nazism, saying they both were the ultimate expression of the (you guessed it) left, by saying they both focused on the dreaded "social justice".
Man, teh stoopid, it hurts. I wish there was a way to just stop this stupid "Nazis were leftists" meme (Erick Erickson was tweeting that this morning too--citing Jonah Goldberg as an expert--bwahahaha!). But since one must shut down one's brain to believe that, I think it's a lost cause.
is going to hit himself in the head with a hammer many times, then say that it feels real good when he stops hitting himself.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
Those people are not human beings, they are the worst examples of human nature. People like Beck and limpballs are the one we usually find committed into mental institutions or in jail. They are psychopaths with a bully pulpit. It just goes to show you the extent of mental disease that we find in good 'ole USA.
We have 40 million people in America that do not have the morals or the intelligence to make sound rational decisions. It is hard to imagine how we got here but all you have to do is look back at the last thirty years of the corporatizing of America, the news, and entertainment to see wat a mess they have made of everything.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness and it has destroied our economy, and the country, and killed and wounded millions, for a hand full of dollar bills, worthless dollar bills at that.
40 million people who firmly believe they will win the lottery and be rich someday so the thought of higher taxes and wealth distribution is scary to them. MORONS ALL!
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
We got here by millions of people believing the earth is 6000 years old and thinking evolution is a communist plot of some kind. Ignorance is a religious disease that permanently alters the mind.
double hate
Funny how the right-wingers exclusively received that version of the New Testament where Jesus offered the money-changers tax cuts and bailouts, while turning away lepers who dared to ask for his hard earned dollars without so much as working for it. I guess when you're just reinterpreting ancient texts to make your limited worldview seem like the "right" one, you can make up whatever bullshit pops into your drug-ravaged brain.
And educated in Catholic schools. No Catholic school I know would ever teach ANYTHING like the kind of wealth justification and stinginess Beck is espousing. Scores of major religious leaders across the country signed a document calling for healthcare reform. It's funny that when I mention the stories about Jesus telling the rich man to give up his worldly possessions and about it harder for a rich man to enter heaven than a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, you never hear again from right-wing bloggers. Apparently they want to even refuse to part with just a few tax dollars to help their fellow man, which I think is a downright bargain compared to giving up everything. And Beck conflating Naziism with communism is just crazy. The two are polar opposites. He is a stupid, lying, unChristian person. Could he be the antiChrist?
that promote social justice, I guess I'll be going back to church this Sunday. (City of Angels in Culver City).
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
before they display their little props that they constantly use. As a European happily living in this country for many years I am appalled at the lack of knowledge where history and geography are concerned.
Beck will cry (literally) and moan about how America is going down the toilet. He's right about one thing. Some of the country has gone down the toilet and Beck helped.
Back to the props. Calling the President a socialist and Hitler are polar opposites since both have different political ideals.All they are doing is stoking up the idiotic "fringe" for November. They mention "the greatest health care in the world" on morning shows like Gregory's and others and not one will correct them.
Clowns, all of them and those that follow like sheep.
Beck is probably one of those half wits that thinks the Nazis were socialists when because they had socialist in their name.
Pointing out to these clowns that socialism is doing quite well in America, in hospitals, police agencies, fire department, social security offices is lost on them. Or is it?!
No, they preach to the idiots with the guns on display at presidential speeches to show that they can do what they like because the 2nd amendment says so is downright childish and dangerous and Beck and O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh,Weiner (Savage),Boortz and the babbling brook of them.
The last Pope did whatever he could to destroy the threast of Liberation Theology. It was too left wing for the Vatican.
Just like Beck himself. If any of them leave churches for this reason it will confirm their status as fake Christians for the entire world to see.
There is a reference to the Harlot Church in Revelations. I have wondered over the last several years whether these right-wing churches are what it is talking about.
or drunk during those sermons.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
when Beck pulled out did that little Hammer and Sickle, Swastika sign edumucation thingy. I couldn't hear what he was saying but it was pretty weird to have a wall full of 60' screens mostly showing benign stuff and then there was Beck waving signs of oppression and hate and you just knew he was talking about Obama making comparisons.
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
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Religious types are Beck's bread and butter. They are idiots of the first order living under the yoke of fake mythology and have all the scientific understanding of a 12th century monk.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
just like statists: http://www.strike-the-root.com/twenty-one-rea...
I can't stand to watch the man myself, so thank you for doing that for me.
The hateful rhetoric does nothing but spread hate, but we need to know what he is doing.
Now I can see how 74 percent of our high school graduates can't name five presidents. I can see how the un-informed can be suckered in to his hate.
The information is out there, but people like Beck get it all twisted up in their hate. I have stood in line at the store and heard people repeat something Beck said, and half the people roll their eyes.... and I live in Republican county.
LOVE ONE ANOTHER
Apparently you never read the Bible. It's actually quite a violent book.
is intended to be a factual statement
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
how sorry you are. (did I add something distracting?)
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
In the George the Wth translation, the translation which the Beckian Sect uses, it's "Fuck one another". Fuck being the conservative translation for the aramaic word "love" (Rahkem - which the George the Wth translates as Fuhk'em or "fuck them", as in: fuck them over).
So, it's "fuck(over) one another", "Fuck(over) the poor", and so on.
Incidentally, they also translate the Aramaic rahkem as "Rack'em", a verb, or "Rack them up!", the imperative command. In other words, "Torture them on the rack!!!", a direct command from an angry and creatively cruel God. Hence, the waterboarding of the lepers in the George the Wth translation. Thus, the dedication to torture that the true believers show to this very day.
BTW, rahkem can is also translated as rake-in, a verb, meaning "Rake in the dough!", which they take to mean, "blessed are the rich!" Thus, in the G-t-Wth version, Jesus makes an excellent cut from the temple money changers' gross, gets his cut from the tax collectors, and makes the deal with Satan for dominion over the earth (all for the simple price of bowing down to him). Sweet deal, what? That's how, according to this translation, the money was raised to crucify the poor on crosses of gold, a sacred tradition amongst Beckians and similar faithful that survives to this very day.
Love (rakhem) is such a versatile word. Why, it can mean almost anything they need it to mean, depending upon context of use. It just takes a little interpretation.
See? They aren't being sociopaths or morally depraved monsters, they're just carrying out God's commands, altruists that they are.
Here endeth the lesson. Amen.
"Love one another as I have loved you."
Time to start the demonstrations at FOX.
Beck needs to be dumped off the public airwaves.
This is the last straw for me with this evil person.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
So, I wonder when, not if, but when Fox and the jokers who are on the air there start to make fun of Beck. He is the looniest of the loonies. Straight up insane.
Beck is Fox's Frankenstein. If they mock him, he will turn on them -- along with his zombie tea-bagger army.
Hope you're right, though. I'd tune into Fox for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIWsMKZt3Eg
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Totally could pass for a tea-bagger crowd if the zombies were a little "slower" and were carrying hilariously misspelled signs.
I wonder if the Mormon church likes Beck speaking on their behalf. ???
Oh,you betcha they do!
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
Maybe not but I'll bet they sure like that ten percent tithe.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=M...
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this is. I thought it was bad enough to have a pope in my faith that denies the Liberation Theology of Jesus. Now there is an idiot outside the faith that can't even summon the words to accurately describe what he hates. To equate it with Nazism and Communism is straight up lies... ok so when Jesus said in Mathew 19:21 "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."; or Luke 12:33 "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys."; or Acts 2:45 "and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need." even Acts 4:34 "For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales"; could be construed as communist....
(and that's off the top of my head)
Never quote Jesus to conservative Christians; they're firmly convinced that the Bible runs in a straight line from Maccabees to St. Paul. That long-haired hippie freak who ran afoul of the Romans clearly was an aberration. What kind of REAL Christian tells people to give money to the poor? Pinko...
it occurs to me that what sets this guy off are the words "social" and "economic", what dominionists don't like is churches being involved in a secular context, at least not until the secular is absorbed into their (fundamentalist) version of how the world should be......
maybe reading too much into it
I think words are certainly the key. As it always is with the newspeak fox nation.
Is helping others and asking for justice for all a purely secular endeavor?
It's the same ol argument. The me individualists and the people who believe we are all in this together.
Beck just took it to new levels of buffoonery.
That portion reads a little differently:
Acts 2:44 becomes: "Everyone who believed was together and shared values, faith, and the truth."
See, they're not living communally, they're dittoheads!
I'm not making this up.
Even an atheist knows more about the bible than this asshat.
This could be the final straw for Beck. Some of those folks will surely see through this. They should be offended. This will be interesting to watch play out.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
? You would think 'real' churchgoers would be pretty upset over this.
Then again, if Beck manages to actually get people to stop going to church, I'd count it as a public service.
I had suspected it, but you are right, now I can see through him. He's trying to be an over-the-top, Howard Stern of Politics, saying ridiculous things to get people riled up. I feel sorry for the people who buy into him as a serious thinker (such as everyone at Fox). I feel sorry for him too, because he's not as good as Stern, or even Michael Savage for that matter. A few more gems like this one, however, and he'll move up in the standings.
Preaching from his edited Book of Moron.
'Talk to the hand'
GOP, many Dems, and darned near everyone else, wanting government by the morons, for the morons, to the morons.
Beck's sneaky agenda is calling a progressive agenda Nazi or Communist, while promoting the same cold-hearted agenda actually espoused by those two groups, once in power. That blond-haired, blue-eyed storm-trooper look is truth in advertising.
Wonder if he plans to discourage his viewers from attending churches which actually feed the poor and hand them a rent voucher once in awhile?
With the swastika and hammer and sickle is just beyond the limits.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
his web site is selling. Surplus from the Obama inaugural.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
If your church is preaching that Nazi's were leftists, run. They obviously have not read the passage in the Bible about Jonah and the wail.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Boy, remember how we lost World War II because the Nazis and the Communists got along so well and joined forces and destroyed England and America, and we don't exist right now?
...Matthew 25:34-40? If not as a exhortation to promote kindness, compassion, and material assistance to those in need and how does that NOT fall within the definition of Social Justice?
This is simply another attempt to defile the common semantic currency of the progressive movement by making a term like 'social justice' or 'liberal' a dirty word, conflated with socialist/communist/liberal/progressive in the terrified minds of people who would actually respond to Glen Beck. It works for them and the next time they hear 'social justice' they will feel a surge of terror and begin bleating incoherently. The righty-nut propaganda and rhetoric machine is merely pursuing the tactic which has proven successful for them - to insert their catch phrases for framing issues in the public mind and to sabotage the nomenclature of their opposition.
Unfortunately much of what touts the label 'Christian' these days has become a collection of bigoted, hateful, a-holes pretending to serve god when really they are simply wallowing in fear and dragging as many others into the pit of ignorance as they can.
has obviously been reading some books about liberation theology, and gotten himself all cranked up
we should remember archbishop romero, who was shot down in nicarauga, by contras who had been trained at the school of the americas.
by the way, the good bishop was assassinated during the consecration,
now that is a real man, a true christian if you like.
Heh...heh...heh...
He said semen...
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being an autodidact myself,i have learned to shut up (sometimes) and hear what them who know more than me have to say, more often than not,
what i learn confirms what i already knew, but sometimes i find out something i didn't know
mr. beck has obviously not learned this skill
beyond that, he seems to lack empathy for other people, has a really inflated sense of self, some sort of messiah complex, pretty much textbook npd
accepting jungs theory of the collective unconscious, i would say he mirrors the state of the narcissistic nation we live in.
He must be a barrel of laughs at family get togethers.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
... Glenn Beck. Let the folks who shun social justice get the fuck out of my religion.
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Glen Beck speaks.
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Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
The NYT Saturday had a review of the video game BioShock2. Now I don't do video games, but part of a paragraph about its predecessor struck a chord. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/06/arts/televi...
"BioShock took players beneath the Atlantic to the underwater Art Deco dystopia known as Rapture in a fearless, mesmerizing depiction of Randian philosophy run amok. Rapture was built on the ocean floor in the 1950s by a tycoon named Andrew Ryan as a hyper-libertarian escape from the strictures of government, religion and morality on the surface. As a banner in Rapture proclaims: “Altruism is the root of all wickedness.”
This could be the new GOP slogan. Maybe we ought to promote it. BTW,the graphic accompanying the story is the embodiment of "Drill, baby, drill!" Quite delicious.
"I've got mine"
"I've got mine...so f*** you!"
http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/conta...
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Glenn is the antichrist?
Im not saying just asking the question.
... consider that the anti-Christ need not be a physical person, but the state of being not Christ-like. Either way, Glenn qualifies.
I asked it above before I scrolled down to your question, golden joe. Certainly worth asking!
well, I was thinking Dick Cheney myself but who knows?
This is why stupid people shouldn't 'educate' themselves... Well, I have no doubt that many theists who were fans of his no longer are.
On his lapels. And an arm band as well.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Here ya go:
http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/large_images/311/...
Suitable for framing.
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Now, I'm going to set aside the troubling implicit admission of the selfishness of the Mormon Church by this LDS convert for the moment.
Judging the LDS Church on the basis of what Glenn Beck does and says is the equivalent of judging all Democrats on the basis of how much cash was in William J. Jefferson's freezer.
"But the Democrats ..."
Just visit the LDS.org site's 'newsroom' to get a feel for the various relief efforts underway in different parts of the world.
http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/
Despite Challenges, Church Aid Reaching Needy; More Is on the Way - News Release
SALT LAKE CITY 22 January 2010 The devastating earthquake in Haiti has shattered millions of lives, but the relief efforts and outpouring of support by organizations and individuals worldwide offer hope. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been working diligently since the disaster to provide aid to the people of Haiti through its humanitarian aid program. Hundreds of thousands of pounds of relief supplies have arrived already, and more are being shipped.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Partners With Islamic Relief USA to Send Food and Medical Supplies to Haiti - News Release
MIAMI 22 January 2010 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Islamic Relief USA have partnered to send urgently needed food and medical supplies to aid those impacted by the earthquake in Haiti. The first of two shipments is scheduled to depart Miami today.
Church Responding to Chile Earthquake - News Release
SALT LAKE CITY 1 March 2010 (This news release was updated on 3 March) Leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Chile are actively assisting in relief efforts and determining how the Church can be of most assistance in the wake of one of the most powerful earthquakes of the last century. With over half a million Latter-day Saints living in the country, the Church has a substantial presence in Chile.
If you really feel the need to characterize the LDS church, then using Glenn Beck as your snapshot isn't fair nor is it accurate.
... that I totally support Glenn Beck on this. Let the people who don't want or don't support social justice bail out of their faiths en masse. Get them out of my faith, instead of being the unsightly blemish that gets noticed whenever anyone thinks of Christianity.
As for your Jefferson comment, the fact remains that people DO judge on the basis of one example, such as Ms. Roberts. And they do it repeatedly, on national television.
As you sow, so shall you reap. Seeds of hate, harvest of shame.
If she's going to misjudge people on the basis of a skewed point of view, that's her business.
I just hope that regular visitors to this website (and those who post the topic threads) aren't eager to do the same thing.
At no point have I said that Glenn Beck = all Mormons, but you're trying to school me on this point.
You're the one following Cokie Roberts' lead, I'm afraid. Your point could easily have been made by saying, "Glenn Beck does not represent all Mormons," and not mentioning Jefferson at all. Jefferson isn't a wailing lunatic with a nightly show in which he espouses conspiracy theories and decries socialism.
It's you who made a specific and political point of injecting a Democratic politician into the discussion.
Did you start this thread?
I criticized Nicole for accepting Beck's statements and actions as a "troubling implicit admission of the selfishness of the Mormon Church".
I then proceeded to make an equally unfair criticism of the Democratic Party by bringing Jefferson's freezer full of cash into the discussion. If you can't recognize unfair characterizations wherever they might occur, then that's your problem, not mine.
... not as you would make it out to be.
She sets aside the 'troubling implicit admission of the selfishness of the Mormon Church' and, likely for the very reason that you're trying to hang her with: it turns on using Glenn Beck as the sole example.
You're the one who ran off and made it a dire insult to all Mormons. You're the one who ran off and brought the Cokie Roberts standard 'wave a Democrat around to compare the odor' into play.
Not wanting to side with either of you, but I believe it to be sexist to refer to Ms. Roberts by a childhood name and her hubby's monniker.
In all future posts please refer to her by her correct name:
Mary Martha Corinne Morrison Claiborne Boggs
It explains her better.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
I do not believe that the LDS church preaches selfishness.
Quite the contrary. I used to live in the California city with the highest LDS population outside of Utah and many of my friends are/were Mormon. One of my best friends' family ran the grocery co-op for the LDS church that allowed those members who were struggling financially to afford decent food through their fellow members' tithing.
The LDS Church preaches about doing good works. My material point is that Beck must have missed this aspect of his own church.
Got it. My interpretation of what you had said was that Mr. Beck's "admission" could be taken as a fair representation of the LDS Church's stance on "social justice".
As I already stated at HuffPo, a search of the LDS.org website for "social justice" doesn't turn up any hits, but you will find an instance where "social injustice" is said to have been denounced by the prophets of old, and on that basis alone, Mr. Beck just might want to reconsider his membership in the LDS Church.
Frankly, I wish he would. The guy is a major embarrassment for the latter-day saints, if you ask me (and I are one of 'em, so I think I'm entitled to that opinion).
Mormons do tend to be pretty insular with their charities, with some exceptions.
They have a series of church farms, and members are expected to contribute a few hours every year.
The foods are then sent to various banks, but it's primarily for Mormons who fall on hard times, but one of the first things they're asked is, "When was the last time you volunteered for the church farm?" I don't know if anyone was ever turned down or not, because they've never volunteered, or it had been years.
That's how I got my experience bailing hay. After an hour or two, it's back-breaking work.
I also watched as some cows were artificially inseminiated; talk about naaaassttyyyy.
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His magic underwear gives him insights into the hearts of others so beware, you dirty liberals.
and the skidmarks of prophecy give him insight into the future.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
And his imbecilic followers have made him rich beyond his dreams! Praise Jesus, no no, I mean praise Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and 13 year old brides!
I was raised a Mormon.
How do you think I knew what the 11th Article of the 13 Articles of Faith were?
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Actually weren't two of the Apostles in the New Testament jailed for killing a man who didn't pay his full tithe to hold some back for his family?
Then they "miraculously" escaped.
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This scumbag is simply giving his audience of ignorant followers, they are more than listeners, the excuses they need to disregard the teachings of the bible that they don't believe in anyway.
There will be more of this from fundamentalist christian sects like focus on the family, moral majority, etc., just watch.
But but but...the tea baggers are supposed to show good family values by helping out their neighbors that are in financial trouble...so that they do not become in socialist programs like government run healthcare.
How do I square this circle? What do I do? WHAT DO I DOOOO!!!
Noo..nooo...head hurts...must switch to Cavuuuuto!
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
It's all they have. Hate this, denounce that, spurn these people, condemn those people, but WE'RE blessed and forgiven. Fuck y'all, we're gonna be on the Rapture Bus!
Spam for Rogaine?
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it makes for a crunchier salad. Rogaine is pricey for a leafy vegetable starter dish base.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Sounds like Glenn wants to start his own church to go with his own tea bagging party. How about he goes somewhere and starts his own country? Rush can come and visit him as soon as a healthcare bill is passed.
It'll be interesting to see today what he says about his disaster show yesterday.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
no logic to Beck. He just fills up his air time by saying vague, scary-sounding words and hope they get a reaction.
I like how the Wingnuts ignore the fact that Beck mounted a "comedy tour" not too long ago using a different persona. Who was that guy?
... have both called themselves comedians.
Just as Michael Richards (former Seinfeld star) did when he let fly with a foul-mouthed, racist tirade against a heckler.
Just as Rosie O'Donnell did when she was called out for mocking Chinese speech with sing-song nonsense sounds.
Both 'comedians' defended their acts as being part of improv. So if it works for Richards and O'Donnell, why, it must be a total laugh riot when Beck and Rush trot out the race hatred.
persona for his comedy show. O'Donnell and Richards weren't. Comedy Tour Glenn Beck® was much calmer and more pleasant than Mangled-History Professor/Ready-To-Snap Glenn Beck®.
OK, so Beck is a sick and mean human being (rather ill informed too). It's obvious to anyone who's paying attention.
My bigger concern is that there are enough equally sick, mean and ill informed Americans out there that he actually has a following. I swear, some people just have no self respect.
Wow, glad you said that. I'm wondering the same thing.
So in Beck's world view, if the church was run by Martin Luther King, the pinnacle of Social Justice, the right-wing Christian would have to leave.
In my world view, Glenn Beck is just a code word for .... Racism.
(Tea-Party Becker explains, "I don't want any of those dark-skinned people getting any Social Justice from hard working "Real" [white middle class] Americans, no sir'ee. And if they happen to be White, they're probably a bunch of drug addicts anyways.")
...this dirtbag was thinking of the LGBT-friendly Unitarian faith like the one that was shot up a couple of years ago when he said this.
JP
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that his own church baptized, posthumously, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin? I'm just curious if anyone has pointed out this fact to him that the 2 people who helped perpetuate the greatest evils of Nazism and Communism, had their souls saved (in the mind of the Mormon church anyway), by the Mormon Church.
Isn't it funny? Don't you find it strange?
... that Christ put limits on forgiveness?
Matthew 18: 32-35
32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
The Lord will forgive whom he will forgive, but we are commanded to forgive all men (and women).
Way to miss the point
Look at the picture
What is he holding?
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I missed the point.
But there are those who would find the LDS Church's proxy baptisms of Stalin, Hitler and other undesirables as somewhat troubling, given the ease with which we mere mortals are willing to demonize other mere mortals and completely look the other way when others do it.
My point is that a stance of forgiveness to those who have committed the most unforgiveable acts is entirely a Christian act (if not the most Christian thing one can do), and yes, it would sure be nice if Beck would keep that in the forefront of his Mormon mind.
You forget, Baptism For the Dead is not orthodox and contrary to the Symbolum Nicaenum; even Churches in the Augsburg traditions with their Five Solas seem to follow this formula, wittingly or not.
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Additionally the Mormons don't believe in Hell, but a vaguely described state of Outer Darkness (sounds like the name of a Rod Serling show).
Even with that caveat, I think Mormons also hold murderers as condemned for eternity.
And yes, I am aware of Matthew 18:21-35.
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Posthumous rebirth - funny. Very...um... Egyptian.
Not saying Christ does that. Beck thinks Nazism and Communism should not share anything with any church. SO, if the Nazis gave free health care for all (which if you believe they did, I think the Jews/Communists/gays in Germany at the time would disagree), and Obama is talking health care, we're heading down that path right?
SO, if the Mormon Church is going to baptize and save the souls of Hitler and Stalin, are they moving down that path that Beck wants to paint other churches into as well? If so, has he vowed to leave the Mormon faith already?
On the LDS website I found the words "Economic Justice". Took 2 minutes to find it.
HERE:
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav...
So CLEARLY, Beck needs to run like the wind from the Mormon Church!
I agree. I wish he would.
... of the dangers of:
- so-called 'social' studies
- insidious 'ice cream' socials
- liberal-infested 'social' networking
- a plan to create evil computers that use 'social AI'
Ice cream. Little children's ice cream.
- Southern California, aka, SoC(i)al.
- punk band Social Distortion
good grief
Beck must really have an ignorant audience. He is trying to make a connection between lefties and Nazis which is nonsense. The Nazis are closer to what he is as a right-winger. So Beck is saying Jesus Christ is like the Soviet Union because of social justice, because that is communism. I believe the scripture also warns its followers not to be deceived and be wise as serpents.
Beck is just another charlatan and a cult leader like Jim Jones, he needs to be called out and then stomped out.
To be absolutely logically correct, there is at least one person who believes him. Ran into said fellow in a waiting room. "Mein Kampf" was the same thing Woodrow Wilson wanted," as I sat there agape, thinking I was hearing the ramblings of an un-medicated schizophrenic.
He doesn't have the insight to see that when he talks about "leftists" being like "fascists" he's really just projecting onto others what is locked in his own heart.
.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100310/us_time...
whoops, beck got punked again!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
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A lot of us lead great lives after we discovered Santa Claus and the tooth fairy were frauds - but we just can't seem to get past that vindictive imaginary guy in the sky. Give it up - get on with YOUR life.
Atheistically yours
WG
I don't believe in Glenn Beck either.
I have to wonder at what point beck goes too far even for the wingnuts on the right?
The right has no limits. Their worship of all things Cheney is proof of that.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
I don't think the big boys in the fundie churches are going to tolerate this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcgIxfNim7o
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As a Mormon, Beck has failed to "continue in [Christ's] word" (Jn 8:31) and therefore "does[n't] know the truth, and the truth [has] not set [him] free" (John 8:32).
He's precisely the kind of false prophet Jesus warned us against.
And there are a lot of them . Most all of the big boys are complete frauds and nothing more than shysters .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
Beck apparently has no clue what Jesus taught . I wonder how this one is going to go over with believers and church going people ? Just when I think he couldn't do or say anything more outrageous and out do himself , he does , again . I'm beginning to think this guy actually believes what he preaches and is genuinely off his rocker . If I ever again have money to invest I'm going to invest heavily in hospital gowns and butterfly nets , the prospects are lookin good . I'd like Professor Beck to explain how is it that one can be a Nazi and a Communist at the same time ? Stupidism is taking over the country .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
The Catechism of the Catholic Church has an entire section dedicated to social justice, and writes in the compendium, ``A large part of the Church's social teaching is solicited and determined by important social questions, to which social justice is the proper answer.''
If I find another parish, it will likewise preach social justice. If I talk to my bishop, he will certainly be down with social justice.
Does this mean that Beck is anti-Catholic?
He just cares so much about this country (single tear reeking of Vics streams down my cheek).
Beck seems to have a lot of "issues." He was raised Catholic and then converted to the Mormon cult. There is a lot of crazy going on in his brain, some it probably chemically induced, but part of this screed against social justice could be a backlash against Catholicism. For all that is wrong with the Catholic Church (I am R.C.), one of the things that is right is their support for social justice. This aspect of the Church used to be more apparent especially under our last great pope, John XXIII.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbkoeJ7BVsI&fe...
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Unfortunately, I opened the link. She never could sing. ;-)
Who cares when you get crotch shots on national TV?
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This article is a perfect example of how infectious the "stupid" of this man is. It reaches right off the screen and sucks away IQ points for just the merest glance, for I actually read the headline and thought "hmm, people walking out of churches and preaching social justice? How is that a bad idea?"
See how he's a cancer on the very intellect? Just trying to express how god-forsakenly stupid he is puts us at all risk of being even inadvertently dumbed-down.
I think you are right .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
of the bible. Examples are:
"Blessed are the greedy for they shall end up with all the stuff."
"Thou shalt not feed the hungry, it will create a welfare state."
In 1978, the church abolished a long-standing practice that kept black men from seeking priesthoods and black women from participating in temple ceremonies. In 2006, Mormon president Gordon B. Hinckley publicly declared the faith open to all people.
Wow. 1978 - that long ago? That was last century. Great religion of tolerance.
they will be treating women as equals.
if not about caring for the poor, sick and weak. I am always amazed at how perverted the so-called Christian righties are. If one only wants to quote the old testament, then one can't be a Christian. It's about the New Testament, you know, Christ's message.
This is gonna be messy for the Christian righties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiDmMBIyfsU
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In many, many ways, Beck is the walking, talking embodiment of the Loony Deceitful Schizophrenic cult.
The history of their dogma is just like the weather - just wait, it'll change.
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this guy is hilarious. i might have to start watching him.
politics is ruining the church. it's why I left and haven't gone back.
"Be Selfish!" - a powerful message.
40 million people who firmly believe they will win the lottery and be rich someday so the thought of higher taxes and wealth distribution is scary to them. MORONS ALL!
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
This may be my last week following CNL. After I win the Powerball tonight, I'm going to switch to the Republican party. See ya suckers!
From the LDS church's (of which Glenn's a convert) official website:
LMGTFY
Beck is Scrooge personified- So he opposes charity, he opposes compassion, he opposes empathy.
This is why I will NEVER understand why radical right wingers like Beck who hate liberals, Jews and the poor, have picked a dirt poor liberal Jew as their messiah- a Jew who spent his time helping the poor..
Their messiah might have been a dirt-poor Jew, but many of His churches are not. The most wealthy (of these churches) seem to ask you to follow the Church's teachings rather than the messiah's. Makes cents to me...
Beck : Drop your church and follow me ! This jackass should be wearing a straight jacket .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
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