Hey Kids, Christianity Pays! Just Ask Rick Warren...
"People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." 1 Timothy 6:9-10
I wonder if Jesus feels that Rick Warren is pierced with many griefs:
Evangelical pastor Rick Warren's plea for donations to fill a $900,000 deficit at his Southern California megachurch brought in $2.4 million, Warren announced to cheers during a sermon at the church on Saturday.
Warren said the amount raised after the appeal was posted online Wednesday included only money parishioners brought in person to Saddleback Church by New Year's Eve. More was arriving by hand and by mail, he said.
"This is pretty amazing," said Warren, who made the announcement by bringing out 24 volunteers each holding a sign for $100,000. "I don't think any church has gotten a cash offering like that off a letter."
The pastor said he planned to talk about what he called his church's "radical generosity" in the rest of the weekend's sermons. He said the total came from members, and the donations were all under $100.
"We're starting the new decade with a surplus," he said. "It came from thousands of ordinary people. This was not one big fat cat."
The posting on Warren's Web site read: "With 10 percent of our church family out of work due to the recession, our expenses in caring for our community in 2009 rose dramatically while our income stagnated."
Warren said the church had largely managed to stay within its budget during the year, but "the bottom dropped out" when Christmas donations were down.
The letter cited the church's accomplishments in 2009 and detailed how the donations would be used, including the church's food pantry, homeless ministry, counseling and support groups.
I realize that churches require donations for support, but I'm having a hard time with the notion that the man who wrote The Purpose-Driven Life and all its ancillaries was nearly as hard up as his flock was, with 10% unemployment.
Maybe Jonathan Turley has the right idea:
First, there was Rod Parsley saying that Satan has been messing around with his bank accounts and needs a massive infusion of cash to fight his demonic plan, here. Now, fellow Evangelical pastor Rick Warren has asked for roughly a million dollars from his faithful due to a few end of the year shortfalls in cash flow. Given these calls to the faithful, I wish to add my own discovery of a demonic plan to deny me of ready cash and call upon everyone on this blog to send me money immediately to fight for righteous and redemptive blogging.
There you go...God is commanding you to send me money, even though I have a decent living and am more fortunate than most human beings on this planet. You don't want to go against God's design, do you?
From what I understand of the properity gospel - If I send them money I too will get rich.
Woo Hoo!
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
... that in thy infinite wisdom and mercy seest fit to bestow upon me scads of good things and lots of money so that I may then do the good works that you would ask of me.
while driving in a thunderstorm between Saltillo and Monterrey.
One of his listeners said Ike's prayers not only garnered him that new GTO he had been wanting, but a green one with a black vinyl top.
Ike, unfortunately. has left this vail of prosperous tears.
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"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Jerry Farwell and Pat Robertson has not done to bad.. They have been throwing out miracles cures for people over the television air waves for many years now.. Did you ever wonder if they received more funds for cures on their reruns on not..
Can you believe they tell people to raise their hands up and receive the cure they are giving them over the television and the reruns multiplies the cures they are sending over the air ways..
Can you imagine people taking advantage of sick people with very sick illnesses for money and calling themselves Christian leaders...
Just think the money they take from sick people is even tax free...
None
Let us all prey.
Prosperity Gospel is considered blasphemous and heretical by mainstream Christianity, but it appears to be the religion of Warren, Osteen and the more popular televangelists and touring "preachers."
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Namely getting stupid people to send him money to continue telling them they are not stupid.
Right on dude, ride that wave man!
Warren is only doing what this country celebrates -- taking advantage of the infirm, the weak, and the stupid.
He's a hypocrite. Has been, will be.
What's odious is the pompous and smug condescension he radiates, plus the neanderthal sexism he endorses.
That and the chin weasel he calls a beard.
Rick “Gluttony is NOT a sin” Warren?
Maybe his flock should chip in for a gastic band?
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
You can get him to 'fast' for a price!
Rick Warren is a perfect symbol of religion. He is either incapable of recognizing what a racket he's running, or he's predictably continuing the charade.
Rick Warren, Oral Roberts, Ted Haggard -- religious institutions attract hucksters and sociopaths, because it is an authoritarian structure with content designed to do nothing OTHER THAN facilitate and assist the authoritarian structure itself. In other words, churches may provide charitable services, but a church's job is first and foremost to "grow" the church.
Carlin said it perfectly, as always:
"Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes... and they always need a little more..."
I have no problem with fellowship and community and traditions and rituals. I have a BIG problem that the only institutions left to carry on these positive things are based upon faith in ancient, barbaric nonsense -- or, at least, the authoritarian deference to institutions based upon nonsense. (Most people never consider the basis of Christianity, for example. They leave that to their religious leaders. Those leaders, in turn, avoid admitting what they know about the origins of (and philosophical conundrums inherent in) their dogma.)
"The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots."
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
The Christians who have a problem with that statement shouldn't waste their energy railing at me, they should speak out against the people giving their faith a black eye. It seems to me though that most Christians are people who are afraid of dying trying to buy their way into heaven and the charlatans who lead them encourage that belief and behavior.
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Lord knows y'all have heard me complain enough 'round here.
But, in the end, that's about as unproductive as their complaining about me, so I just go off and do my own thing. I contribute to charities when I can, try to observe Christ's teachings, and so on.
the Fat Cat, it's him.
to belong to that church.
I'll save your soul for just five dollars.
But I only have $4.99 - Damn me!
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
is my "Treasure in Heaven" plan: for an offering of just $4.99 a quarter I will absolutely guarantee that you won't go to hell!
Offer void in Cleveland Ohio and the state of Utah.
Right? Give ME your money and you'll go to heaven when you die. If you don't I'll cheerfully refund your money.
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I believe it's called buying heaven insurance and it's about as dependable as buying health insurance.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Or guarantee that they won't be cut or denied coverage for a pre-existing religion?
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Even the Catholics don't believe in indulgences anymore - funny the American brand of Christianity has reinstated the concept of indulgences.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Of course the mafia no longer "believes" in extortion anymore, either. Everybody is getting all modern on us.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Creflo Dollar.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself."
Sir Richard Francis Burton (1821 - 1890)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
I'm sorry, but tv preachers have been doing this since the invention of the the tv. It's nothing new. Same old shit, different day.
"I won't take my religion from any man who never works except with his mouth."
Carl Sandburg (1878 - 1967)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
If a muslim cleric was to raise those kinds of funds within 2 days, what kind of suspicions would they come under.
The country would have vapors and declare an "Oh Shit!" moment. We would go to code red and immediately blame it on the president.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
There, they'd be verklempt.
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
Obviously it would be part of a terrorist plot. Send the Imam to GITMO until we can sort this out. . .
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Get in with Creflo and Taffi
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"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
You make a very good point. Fox/Fixed news would go crazy with it.
the state of California in producing revenue.
The state should conduct a full-blown audit into that holy trinity-card monte operation.
Rick Warren does not take a paycheck from Saddleback Church and has even paid back previous years salaries. While there are Pastors that fleece the flock I don't think Warren is one of those people.
My sister works for him.
You're very optimistic and a little too forgiving and generous - from what my sis tells me.
FWIW
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
I doubt "fleecing the flock" is the proper alliterative construct with the letter F to describe what Rick is up to.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Just because he doesn't take a paycheck from the church directly doesn't mean he's not getting plenty of money from somewhere else.
Yeah, he's fleecing the flock and being most un-Biblical about it as well.
I'd say Rick Warren's donors shouldn't have given him all that money, but what's the use? Do we really think they'd spend it on some worthwhile cause otherwise, and not donate it to some other fruitless exercise in evil, i.e. SarahPAC? Sure, it's hucksterism at its most blatant and shameless, but these people get what they deserve. Sure, whatever, throw money at your pot-bellied ideologue and squint your eyes, hold your breath, and wish really, really, really, really hard that abortion will end; or that "Seventh Heaven" is kept on for another season; or that Carrie Prejean's remaining sex tapes are never found again, or any of the other practices in futility you're told to perform. A fool and his money are soon parted.
I heard about this over the weekend and my "another evangelical crook gets wealthier off of his dopey followers" light went off. I researched Rick Warren and there's convincing evidence that Mr. Warren may be in this for the good of his fellow man.
Mr. Warren is also an author who's books have sold millions of copies. As the money rolled in from his book sales, Warren stopped taking his $110,000 annual salary and repaid the church for his 25 years of salary since its founding. He and his wife became "reverse tithers," he said, keeping 10 percent of their income and giving away the rest, including $13 million in 2004. He's also raised millions of dollars and formed his P.E.A.C.E. plan (a five-point plan for global action that calls for church-led efforts to tackle global poverty and disease, including the spread of HIV/AIDS, and to support literacy and education efforts around the world).
So maybe Rick Warren, even though I disagree with his position on religious/social matters, is a truly rightious human.
Can anyone shed any light on him? Is he a stand up guy, or just another religious nut who's in it for the money?
...unless you suffer from teh ghey. Then, he'll stop at nothing, including his own spending limits, to make sure you're still a second-class citizen. But, aside from that, I'm sure he's a swell fella.
Rick actually drives people crazy with his favorite line "It's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve"
People near him have had to tell him to tone it down. Homophobia looks ugly even on Xtians.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
has turned his two Roll's Royce's over to Creflo Dollars Ministries, Inc.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
See, what a humble gesture - these are all really REALLY GAWDS men.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
This charlatan is as scheming and deceitful as all the others, says he takes no "salary" from the church, but, my friend,the church pays ALL of his bills,home, cars, etc. The church pays him no salary - but pays lots of money to support this fat creep's lavish lifestyle. Like all the others, he does alot of truth twisting to deceive people into thinking otherwise. Hypocrite & liar he is.
Woody McBreairty
If you are a believer, only his god knows...
Please. Rick Warren's not a real Christian. The only real ones would be communists, as "Jesus" said.
their own.
So lets see the results of the $1.5 million surplus he will be spending on charitable works real soon.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Yip . .
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"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
to follow the "Give a Donation' link and have a look at the back office ...
http://www.micahtek.com/
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Nothing hurts your ministry more than that Baby Jeebus past its
"Sell By" Date.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
to give money to these swindling charlatans. I remember when Oral Roberts threatened his "followers" to give him a million dollars at once or "God would call him home." These snake oil salesmen have no consicence, taking money from the pooor and giving it to the rich - themselves! I'd like to see one person whose life has been changed or improved by listening to the control freaks from their church, how many have been "healed by faith" of sickness and poverty. I bet you not a single one! Sad that people are so desperate to improve their lives that they put so much effort into supporting a fat bigot who makes his living preying on people's fears of life & death. I hope Warren at least uses some of the money to join Jenny Craig.
Woody McBreairty
This is a money laundering scheme, right? You had the funds all along...now you just need to "clean" them up...
Another win for the christianity industry in this country. They ought to have an IPO and start selling shares... except that then they might have to pay taxes and actually have to pay for their involvement in politics, like the rest of us do.
... I don't want them dictating policy to the state.
Yes through Guilt Fear and Hatred, mis information and Lies Twisted Facts and always pointing out another's short comings you to can be a christian. It is NOT a religion notice they are a CORPORATION and listen to their excuses of being a PROFIT making CORPORATION strongly on the side of SOCIALISM.
Remember to be a christian you must be HATE and FEAR based and RENOUNCE all forms of free thinking and critical thought.
a greedy, lying, pig! Anyone who gives him their hard-earned money is a fool! The End.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
at that Saddleback Ranch.
Let's just hope it ain't the choir boys!
CBR (Cash Based Religion) is big money.
"radical generosity", eh? 1 Corinthians 13 (KJV)
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
return to the comfort of our dreary routines -- living in places that aren't worth caring about, weaving endlessly in freeway traffic, drawing a paycheck at the air-conditioned cubicle, inhaling Buffalo wings by the platterful, with periodic side-trips to the state-chartered casino where there's always a chance of scoring a lifetime's income on one lucky bet.
Amen
IT takes hard work and Education to get ahead in the Lord's modern world...student loans avaialable.
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"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
That's extra creepy, and evil.
Generally speaking I don't trust anyone making over 150K a year.
make for creepy, extra creepy, and uber creepy.
http://blog.peta.org/archives/2007/07/rip_tam...
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Cows get milked, rubes get bilked,
And fat cats dine on fools and cream.
A little saying for the Ruperts of this world, like Rick Warren.
http://blog.peta.org/archives/2009/12/pope_ve...
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
And they gave!! Why do they need to give $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to find out what is
rightcorrect and what is wrong."We're starting the new decade with a surplus,"
Hire G.W. Bush, he'll show you what to do with it.
Generally speaking I don't trust anyone making over 150K a year.
he wants to screw up millieniums.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
"With 10 percent of our church family out of work due to the recession, our expenses in caring for our community in 2009 rose dramatically while our income stagnated....”
Translation: "With y'all sorry ass bitches outa work, it's put a crimp on my income. Send me my money - NOW!" It's amazing that piece of crap "The Purpose Driven Life" sold literally millions of copies - where'd that money go, Rick? I'll bet his personal bank accounts aren't showing any deficit, that's for damn sure. I could never get over the name of his "church" - Saddleback? How butch!
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
newfound weatlth? Where do you want to bet the surpluss is going?
I saw this story yesterday and it made me sick.
could simply invite the 10% of his congregation that are out of work to drop by for their share of the $1.5 mil surplus. I hear the Real Housewives of Orange County are all having a tough time in this recession, and they are just down the road from Saddleback.
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. {22} Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? {23} And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
1 Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
KJV
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Matthew 21:12-13 (KJV)
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"Warren's God is not awesome or angry and he does not stand in judgement of human sin. He is genial and mellow and he wants to be your best friend." - The New Yorker, September 12, 2005.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWqQ9uwqQxk
http://www.biblebb.com/files/edwards/je-sinne...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FigprdcBGA
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We got lost up in the Laguna Beach area last year. We turned around in the parking lot of a large building. We all realized at the same time that it was Rick Warren's Saddleback Church. Holy Shit! You should see that fucking place! As members of a small (400 members) Episcopalian congregation we were appalled at the opulence of the place. Gaudy is one word to describe it. I like to tease my wife on Sunday mornings and tune in Joel Osteen. It amazes me because I actually try to discern what it is he is actually saying. I have come to the conclusion that he is basically just a bullshit artist. A damn good bullshit artist, but just a bullshit artist. That motherfucker could sell snow to an Eskimo. And sand to an Arab.
Is it true y'all do the Holy Eucharist with tea and scones?
Or is that Beef Wellington and gin?
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he doenst just care about monee!
http://saddlebackfamily.com/operations/donati...
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Heh heh...heh heh...heh heh...
Tim said 69...
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for a religious upbringing.....
and the knowledge of exactly what I turn my back on and walk away from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAtRCJIqnk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2skwoHvw-3w
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ysbaddaden:If you are asking if Episcopalians use tea & scones the answer is no. We do, however, put on a pretty fair Coffee Hour after services. You are welcome any Sunday.
Nein ich ihnen
I couldno sign-off on the 39 Articles.
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Of course, the first thing that comes to mind is "A fool and his money are soon parted."
And the second is, how dare that wild and crazy guy Jesus send the disciples out with nothing but the clothes on their backs, and tell them to get the beep-beep outta Dodge if they found they weren't welcome? (Even this heathen has read Matthew 10)
I have no patience for anyone dumb enough to send this hate monger money, Rick Warren is nothing more that a good old American bigot.
And I would love to know how many of the dumb-ass's who sent Warren money were also railing against reverend Wright.
This is exactly why I feel the religion is the biggest con ever inventend. And if you give in to it, well, that's your choice, but do me a favor and keep your bullshit god out of my actual life. Thank you!
Is chruch good for abs?
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Its a bit lonely as a liberal nondenominational Christian but here goes - Warren is not a prosperity gospel preacher. His Purpose Driven Life is premised on "its not about us" which is really antithetical to the prosperity goofballs. By all accounts, Warren has been very generous with the money he made on the book, having given away 90% or more of the profits. His church must have huge expenses in its substantial ministries and overhead. If there's a financial shortfall, you either raise money, cut programs or start firing people. He asked for funds and it appears a large number of folks gave small amounts. That's grass roots support.
On the other hand, I'm not happy about his entry into politics, particularly the Ugandan bill for punishment of gays. That is, however, a separate issue. Here he did what all church, synagogue ,and mosque leaders do- he asked for funds.
that last election year American Religious Organizations 'spent' at least 25 million dollars.
He had ONE question:
"How many poor people did they feed?'
YOU go tell Him the answer......
We did it in post WWII japan when the occupying U.S. Forces forced the Emperor of Japan to admit that he was lying when he claimed to be divine, and ordered all public schools to inform children that there was no evidence to support religious claims. That effectively ended the bullsh-t of religion in Japan. Today, only 4% of Japanese believe in any god despite the constant efforts of Christian and other cult missionaries to destroy Japan's rich culture. Most japanese correctly consider believers to be mentally ill.
The time has come to end religious fraud in the United states and we can do it constitutionally right NOW. Employing existing truth in advertising laws, we must prosecute for criminal fraud all those who raise funds or recruit followers via claims that cannot be substantiated by documented, empirical scientific evidence. We must also require all religious leaders to inform their flocks that there is no rational evidence-based reason to believe their claims about the existence of god or gods, heaven, hell, angels, souls, devils and demons and that the evidence strongly suggests that Abraham, Moses, The Exodus, Jesus and Muhammad never actually existed and the core of all religion is based on empty myth and the invented fantasies and LIES of ignorant, primitive people.
Religious leaders must additionally inform their followers that religion has long been used by the ruling classes to manipulate and control the ignorant masses, and that parasites such as Rick Warren feed on this ignorance, the emotionally needy and delusional people who fear the realities of life and adult responsibility. Public schools must reinforce this message from Kindergarten through High School.
All this can be accomplished under existing law without violating the United States Constitution. Fat chance of getting even one of our gutless elected representatives to start the ball rolling--most of them subscribe to superstitions such as the perverted Middle Eastern delusional belief system known as Christianity.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
http://www.charlesbelser.com
http://www.larrythepenguin.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3MkK0rpxk0
These immoral and devilish con men are laughing all the way to the bank with money stolen from very ignorant desperate people.
More people have less. The people with more gave more.
that doesn't seem so bad, really. If only everyone who had more (the top 2%) gave more to the US Treasury, then that would help our deficit too!
The ONLY time Jesus lost His temper, He was throwing people like you out of His Temple.
and I don't see that fat a$$ fitting through the 'eye of a needle'.
with my God are between the 2 of US. To pray in public is a sign of 'pride' that is the #1 Cardinal sin. How do you morph scripture to say anything else.
If you are a Christian, where did JC start 'begging' for money?
Why is it that so many people are willing to believe implicitly in such primitive superstitions as virgin birth, resurection from death and eternal life at the feet of some benevolent unseen being, but they demand absolute, 100 percent proof for the notion that perhaps man's actions somehow might (JUST MIGHT) contribute to global warming?
Who would be stupid enough to even listen to what Rick Warren has to say?
The answer, my friends, is blowing through the empty heads of all those true believers.
Next life I want to be born a sociopath so I can experience the freedom of a guilt free life. I think it would be fun to make a living as a megachurch charlatan, manipulating people, pulling in the dough.
I guess anybody can have a guilt free life by getting washed in the Blood. But being a sociopath would double the effect.
Looks like ol' Rick borrowed a stunt form the man who said "God" would take his life if his congregation didn't come up with money to save the ministry. Is this going to be be Warren's next ploy? He's one step closer to being the new ReverEND Anal Robards.
"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez
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