Obama's Pick For Surgeon General: CNN's Sanjay Gupta
By Nicole Belle Tuesday Jan 06, 2009 7:00pmSanjay Gupta vs. Michael Moore on the national health care system on Larry King Live, July 2007
The Washington Post is reporting that Barack Obama has offered the job of surgeon general to Sanjay Gupta. He’s expected to accept the job, the Post says, citing two unnamed sources. Gupta declined the Post’s request for comment.
Besides his CNN gig, Gupta also appears on CBS and writes for Time Magazine. He was a White House Fellow and a special adviser to Hillary Clinton when she was First Lady. Oh, and he’s a neurosurgeon at Emory and associate chief of the neurosurgery service at Atlanta’s Grady Memorial Hospital.
There’s a certain logic to picking a TV talking head to be surgeon general, because the surgeon general is largely a talking head. The top doc does oversee the 6,000-member Commissioned Corps of the U.S. Public Health Service, but the real work of the job is traveling around the country, using the title as a bully pulpit to advance a public health agenda.
Of course, it would be nice if he used that bully pulpit to advocate for Universal Health Care, which would be the single best news for public health in this country, but it doesn't appear that Dr. Gupta thinks there's a problem. Paul Krugman agrees:
I don’t have a problem with Gupta’s qualifications. But I do remember his mugging of Michael Moore over Sicko. You don’t have to like Moore or his film; but Gupta specifically claimed that Moore “fudged his facts”, when the truth was that on every one of the allegedly fudged facts, Moore was actually right and CNN was wrong.
What bothered me about the incident was that it was what Digby would call Village behavior: Moore is an outsider, he’s uncouth, so he gets smeared as unreliable even though he actually got it right. It’s sort of a minor-league version of the way people who pointed out in real time that Bush was misleading us into war are to this day considered less “serious” than people who waited until it was fashionable to reach that conclusion.
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Thanks for posting. I swore I remembered something I didn't like about Gupta and this was it.
I'm hoping it was an off moment for the guy but to be honest I don't like it.
And health care is a huge issue for me.
I went back and Youtubed the original broadcast of Gupta mocking Sicko on The Situation Room with Wolf and I got SO mad. This dude is absolutely for the corporations.
Gupta is a corporate prostitute to his core. We are so fucked. I want my vote back. Obama just flipped-off his base, again. This is turning out to be a straight up corporatist prostitute/neocon/hawk/FRC true believer administration. I live in a state he absolutely needed to win, and it was very close. I suspected that Obama would do this, but I didn't think it would be so blatant. If I had it over to do again, I would have stayed home.
I wonder if Kucinich is palnning a 2012 run? I'm sending him money if he is. My first vote for Obama is also going to be my last vote. That's a promise.
Yes he is for the corporations, so will all of Obama's picks, its too bad people couldn't open their eyes when it comes to the Dmes and the Repubs. You had 3 candidates in the presidention campaign you could have voted for but people chose the corporate candidates.
Well Just take a close look at all his picks on the net, get their names and look them up. Site monitor, I was replying to him and yes it was on topic.
Sorry just having a bad day
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Name the last five surgeon generals?
Your answer will indicate just how important they are to health care.
justice Bjork, dr. Phil, Jocelyn "Hand Job" Elders, Dr Joyce Brothers and Dr Gene Scott.
How'd I do?
I am sure, most people can't not name the last 5 secretaries of labor or the treasury. I can't without goggling.
The fact that I know the past 5 secretaries of defense and state, sort of points out at how out of whack our priorities are as a nation.
Davey Jones, Iron Man, cool hand luke, Leeerrrooy Jenkins and....er? Father Ted?
Edit: And Dr. Who of course /facepalm
... since 2006, I guess it ain't too important.
Besides, Presidents always get all red-faced if the surgeon general talks about something yucky ... like aids, or masturbation, or sex ed.
everett koop!
Curly, Larry, Moe, Shemp and Joe?
or Dr. Dre will work for me.
Surgeons General:
John Maynard Woodworth 29 March 1871 14 March 1879 Ulysses S. Grant
2 RADM John B. Hamilton 3 April 1879 1 June 1891 Rutherford B. Hayes
3 RADM Walter Wyman 1 June 1891 21 November 1911 Benjamin Harrison
4 RADM Rupert Blue 13 January 1912 3 March 1920 William Taft
5 RADM Hugh S. Cumming 3 March 1920 31 January 1936 Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge
6 RADM Thomas Parran, Jr. 6 April 1936 6 April 1948 Franklin D. Roosevelt
7 RADM Leonard A. Scheele 6 April 1948 8 August 1956 Harry S. Truman
8 RADM LeRoy Edgar Burney 1 August 1956 29 January 1961 Dwight Eisenhower
9 RADM Luther Leonidas Terry 2 March 1961 1 October 1965 John F. Kennedy
10 VADM William H. Stewart 1 October 1965 1 August 1969 Lyndon Johnson
11 RADM Jesse Leonard Steinfeld 18 December 1969 30 June 1973 Richard Nixon
(Acting) RADM Paul Ehrlich, Jr. 1 July 1973 13 July 1977
12 VADM Julius B. Richmond 13 July 1977 14 May 1981 Jimmy Carter
(Acting) Edward Brandt, Jr. 14 May 1981 21 January 1982 Ronald Reagan
13 VADM C. Everett Koop 21 January 1982 1 October 1989
(Acting) ADM James O. Mason 1 October 1989 9 March 1990 George H. W. Bush
14 VADM Antonia Coello Novello 9 March 1990 30 June 1993
(Acting) RADM Robert A. Whitney 1 July 1993 8 September 1993 Bill Clinton
15 VADM Joycelyn Elders 8 September 1993 31 December 1994
(Acting) RADM Audrey F. Manley 1 January 1995 1 July 1997
16 ADM / VADM David Satcher 13 February 1998 12 February 2002
(Acting) RADM Kenneth P. Moritsugu 13 February 2002 4 August 2002 George W. Bush
17 VADM Richard Carmona 5 August 2002 31 July 2006
(Acting) RADM Kenneth P. Moritsugu 1 August 2006 30 September 2007
(Acting) RADM Steven K. Galson 1 October 2007
Regardless whether the position is a talking head/figurehead sinecure, it is important in this case, because Obama is declaring his position with this choice. It appears that this declaration is proclaiming that there is only going to be a welfare program for the criminals who are the health insurance industry, and that actual healthcare is not going to be considered. He just told all Americans to go fuck themselves, corporate profits and profiteering are going to come first and foremost.
we did not place you in office so that you could emulate your predecessor. the more i hear, see and read about you, i'm getting a strong feeling that you are in fact the new enemy. in your effort to reach across the aisle in spirit of together we can, you appear to be heading in the same direction where bush was leading. i still am willing to give you the benefit of doubt, but it's running thin.
Looking at all of Obama's picks, it's beginning to look like the argument to vote for him instead of staying home on election day, in hopes that Obama would restore the Supreme Court to integrity, has kinda been shot in the ass, doesn't it? I get the sinking feeling that the March of Totalitarian Fascism®©™ is going to boldly continue its heroic progress into the next 4 years.
We've been had. Again.
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I would've picked Dr. House over him. Or even Doogie Howser... as long as we're going with television as a guide.
help smooth out the cabinet
but whatever is the name of the character Katherine Heigl plays... that would be my nomination.
Although having House as surgeon general would kick all sorts of ass...
I would've picked Dr. Phil over Gupta. Oh well.
a pro-medical establishment whore, but a doctor none the less... A surgeon actually.
Busily performs brain surgeries on a regular basis. I feel much better knowing this.
Bill Frist was also a doctor. As was Ron Paul. Whack jobs all of them.
Gupta's a stuck up twit who consistantly spouts the part line. He's about the last person BHO should have picked.
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Yeah...that's where the real money is...
Health Care is not really an issue with me.
I will just die on the curb next to the hospital that I will never go in.
Thanks just the same.
Time will tell but I'm tending to agree with No longer a pro... This pick seems based on "star quality" and policies campaigned upon be damned.
Howie Mandell for treasurer. New Deal or No Deal?
obama could have picked wolf blitzer as sec. of defense.
I'm starting to think this is all some sort of a big joke.
The universe is laughing behind my back.
you are a fluke
of the universe
you have no right to be here
whether you can hear it or not
the universe
is laughing behind your back
I figured were long-since dead! Thanks.
We were #1, and we can be #1 again...but we first need to kick out the Republicans (and I mean out of the country) because as long as the Republicans in involved they will always fight against America being all we can be.
And their history proves it! - Randi always says "When someone shows you who they really are...believe them"
I was trying to remember why I thought Gupta was an asshole, and now I know. It was his bullshit mugging of Michael Moore over nationalized health care. Gupta stood firmly for the vampires that suck the money out of America while providing little or no health care.
Gupta = HMO corporate shill asshole.
There are worse famous doctors out there (at least Gupta isn't a new age wacko).
What is a "new age wacko"? Someone not beholden to the pharmaceutical industry?
No, but people who think that all medicine is bad because of the pharm industry. (i.e. vaccines are bad, antibiotics are bad, random plant extracts are good, Kevin Trudeau is right).
Random plant extracts are not good in the same way random drugs are not good.
Authoritarian wacko's work to remove choice and access.
St John’s Wort works as well as drugs – with far fewer side-effects
good doctors don't give random drugs, they give drugs that have been scientifically tested for the diseases they treat. Wacko doctors give random plants that haven't been tested and probably have unwanted side effects (St. John's Wort is an exception, it has been tested, but it interacts with many other medications and should be taken with care).
And it worked, and also killed 60,000 people. Iatrogenic disease is a major killer, in the US it's at least the third leading cause of death, but I'm sure the doctors who hurt their patients mean well and aren't wackos.
Is Mercola a wacko? Who has he unintentionally killed?
I'm not saying that the FDA is perfect, but at least drugs have some regulation. The herbal supplement industry is a multi-billion dollar business with absolutely no regulation or testing. How many people have died because of them (or because they didn't get proper treatment)?... no one knows because it isn't recorded. How many people refuse to go to the doctor or refuse to give their kids vaccinations because they don't trust them? What was our life expectancy before medicines were available (plant extracts have been around forever)? Iatrogenic disease is around, but if you don't hospitalize someone who just had a heart attack, death rates would be much higher. There is good and bad science, (good) doctors are trained to read research articles, see who's funding the research and decide for themselves. Rather than mistrusting all of medicine because of a few drugs, check out the unbiased research for yourself (rather than blindly following what some guy who is out to make money tells you about his completely untested ideas).
I'm not saying herbal medicine is perfect, but at least herbs have a history of use going back to the dawn of mankind. The envious church condemned and murdered women who passed this knowledge as witches. Drugs? America is Pharma's guinea pig/cash cow.
A flu shot, but not cheap vitamin D supplements? What's up with that? Which can put you in a wheel chair for months, yet have no benefit for anyone last season, since the makers guessed wrong about the prevailing strains of flu? No, vitamin D is not an herb, but it falls into the category of "alternative" medicine that competes with drug therapies.
If medicine is a science, why isn't it the same diagnosis or prescription from pharma-trained doctor to doctor, or modern western-medicine using country to country? Different laws of physics over there? I don't think so.
Life expectancy increases are from improvements in sanitation and infant mortality, not wonder drugs.
Who mistrusts all medicine? If I have an emergency condition, I'll certainly seek medical attention to be stabilized.
Iatrogenic death is probably the leading cause of death in our nation, and you dismiss it as "being around?!"
also want to make vitamins available only through prescription...they prescribe the pills that big pharma tells them to prescribe.
Unless I have bones stickin out through my skin, and/or blood spurting...I avoid doctors like the friggin plague.
The AMA is a bunch of industry hacks pushing pills on us we don't need for ailments that until they invented a pill for it, no one knew they had it.
Doctors...pah!
There was that guy who pretended to be Surgeon General who testified he was compelled to mention Heir Dumbyas name so many times per page per speech. That aside, i dont think that position was politicized much by the fucktard bunch.
Howard Dean??? He's a real Doctor....and he's better than Gupta.. media whore that he is ... I can't stand Gupta.
Not like this position is a spring board to bigger and better things. Last time I saw C. Everett Koop he was doing a Medic Alert bracelet commercial.
I've fallen and I can't get up!
has fallen. Geeze, whatta mess!
It is pathetically getting clearer and clearer that Obama does not represent change. This appointment is as unnerving as the Rick Warren selection. It's nauseating that Obama is not a man of principle with his selection of Gupta. Gupta is a complete GOP talking point clone.
That Obama will change nothing. He's a politician and when his lips are moving that means that he's lying. How many times have you ever seen a politician tell the truth about anything? They say what they must to get elected then, they do what their corporate masters say for the next 4 years till election time comes around again.
father sarduchi!
Guido Sarduchi! The pope would love it!
Oh, and, Gupta owns pharma stock, damn his little ass.
Antona Novello (sp) was Surgeon General recently and that her brother is father Guido Sarducci?
True!
Small world, ain't it?
She's a brain and a beauty. But, she actually married into the "Sarducci" family. According to Wiki''s page on Antonia Novello:
Her brother-in-law is Don Novello (Father Guido Sarducci from Saturday Night Live)
brother sarduchi!
welcome to the high school lunchroom
made very good argument for this appointment.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#28530154
I'm very disappointed by this pick.
Obama is becoming the Appeaser.
yep. You could spin "appeasing" to be "bringing the country together," but when the country voted you in to turn the country around from what the "other side" has been doing, "bringing the country together" is not a good thing.
Working with psychopath's(republicans)? Is Obama fucking delusional?
He would stand a better chance of surviving a pit of rabid wolves and starving grizzly bears if he covered himself in raw hamburger, and poured steak sauce all over himself.
The republican party doesn't see anything wrong with what they have done to the working people in this country. They still think we earn too much. Where is FDR when you need him?
exactly. there are many medical institutional leader to choose from, especially from government or charity organizations. instead he chooses slick Sanjay. His arrogance displayed on this clip is further evidence of his pathology. I'm sure he's kind to his individual patients who successfully passed all the wealth hurdles to get to his office. But he's incapable of humanity outside his consultation room.
$7,000 per person per year.
A family of 4 would have $28,000 per year spent on healthcare.
Add $12,000 for rent
The average family needs $40,000 a year just to pay rent and healthcare.
No wonder our economy is so broken.
obama needs to know that his constituency is not happy with his recent picks. hell, he's too much like bush again. and bush was and is stupid. i was in bed the other night thinking why do i dislike bush so much aside from the obvious. It's because i want a leader that i think is smarter than i am. and bush has never filled that bill. obama is smarter but perhaps he just is too much the politician. what's he going to do next, tell us how he cannot fulfill his promise to pull out of iraq because he cannot in good faith leave american troops in harm's way. if he backs off on that then there is no disguising what he is and what he stands for and we then will have a major fight on our hands. care to take on the black community? and our fair-minded liberal friends who feel a black in office can do no wrong. I would remind them of condoleeza, clarence, and colin. saying they can do no wrong because they are black is as prejudice as stating the opposite. take care obama, you're losing us.
I'm less worried about his picks than I am about whether or not they'll be willing to work with him.
I feel like he's surrounding himself with re-Thug Moles who'll constantly be working to sabotage any productive steps Obama tries to take. I really worry that he's being hopelessly naive here - that he really doesn't understand how these guys work.
He'd better be proving me wrong - that's all I can say.
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Exactly. Either that's how gov't works differently from corporate bureaucracy, or the people he's appointing are really Obama's soul mates.
Is there one single republican-lite Clinton hack Obama hasn't named?
I never liked Clinton, that's why I supported Obama. WTF?
After Mitch the SOB gets done filibustering Harry's nuts off with his 41 seat majority, the repukeopath's will call Obama a "do-nothing," and come back in 2010 with a vengence.
And yes, the American people ARE stupid enough to vote them back in.
who reid and pelosi are working for.
Setting aside for the moment the idiocy of the host, Larry King, Moore is wrong on one significant point. Universal health care is not free. Any sovereign state that provides for a comprehensive, single-tier health care system, as we have in Canada, is funded out of governmental revenues and very low user fees for those whose fees are not paid by their employer. That is, such a health care plan is funded by the citizenry in accordance with the federal/national legislation (e.g., the Canada Health Act) and represents the allocation of a significant proportion of the federal government's annual revenue (approx. 40%). More importantly, such a universal social program reflects the values of the citizens of that nation state. In a word, we look after each other. Much of this follows from the fact that our country has been built on the western values of humanism and the aboriginal values of the collective. It works and its more cost effective than any for-profit health care system.
Moore never said health care was FREE. They talk about the cost in the movie.
I never understand that argument,... we can fund two illegal wars, prison camps, cronyism, non compete bids for halliburton, & that wouldn't pay for health care by itself?
Not to mention, we haven't even started taxing the churches,... bwoohoohooheheheheahahahHAHA!
Nobody here expects a free lunch. But universal healthcare is a better use of tax and sur tax money than waging wars of aggression or transferring the wealth and treasure of a nation into the hands of a miniscule number of self-appointed elites or corporate pirates. I'd be glad to pay up to an additional 10% payroll deduction in order to have universal healthcare, not only to be covered and be free of worry, but because universal, single-payer is the least expensive way to go about it.
that's all it is.
"Crooks & Liars Welcomes Michael Moore with Exclusive Video!
By Nicole Belle Saturday Jul 21, 2007 2:05pm
(guest blogged by Howie Klein) With an C&L exclusive video clip: Canadian Waiting Room..."
because he certainly likes to choose people who anger the liberal left
No "maybe" about it.
Gupta? They're kidding, right? No one in their right mind would believe that this man is qualified above all others for this post. I'm personally disgusted by this - it says something about Obama I don't think I like.
Gupta. Vomit, vomit, vomit.
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I think this is a very smart move by Obama. The Surgeon General takes his orders from the President, doesn't he? This way you get a talking head on your side rather than on CNN talking shit about your policies.
I just hope some in this Administration has enough fucking sense to remove marijuana from the list of Schedule 1 drugs. It's a damn joke.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10133425-38...
Here's the F*cktard's policy on pot.
Phat phucking chance.
Krugman is so right on the mark about everything.
There is no way Gupta should be Surgeon General. His stance on medical marijana is totally uninformed and fails to match what Obama has said he would support. Gupta came out against medical marijuana, basing his opinion on thin air instead of tested and known science. Obama has said he supports medical marijuana and I hope everyone holds him to it. And I hope he can find someone more medically informed than Gupta.
Looks like the worth and value of Obama's word is turning out to be shit, doesn't it? The measure of any person is always what they do and what they choose, not what they say.
what do you call a person who gradated 499 out of 500 in medical school?
mccain?
Dr.
Let me tell you from experience. I am 57 years old my wife is 53. We have both worked all our lives. My wife worked for 18 years at the local hospital, They sold out to another company. They let my wife go and hired someone for $5.00 an hour to replace her. She found another job and was there for 10 years.
I have been in the construction business all my life. We were doing all right.
Last April 9th my wife and he mother went to our daughters home to see the grand kids. They are the light of their lives. On the way home she pulled out into traffic and got t-boned. The other driver said he didn't even get his foot on the brake it happened so quick. They cut her and her mother out of the car. An air ambulance took Deb to the emergency room at a cost of almost $13,000.00, an hour in the emergency room was another $13,000.00. Then is was another Ambulance ride to another hospitals heart lab. This was a ground ambulance so the cost was only $2,000.00. Then it was 12 hours in surgery, there were so many doctors at this point I am not sure how much money went to them but it was thousands. She then was in neurotrama intensive care for 5 weeks at a cost of over $231,000.00, then it was a week in the broken bone ward before being shipped off to a rehabilitation hospital for another three weeks. We have been home since, but with many trips to doctors, home health and rehab. After a while she was able to go to the local hospital for rehab, occupational therapy, and exersize. They charged an average of $350.00 for every 15 minute session.
Health care in America is the biggest ripoff short of the republican party. We had both Auto and health insurance. Now we no longer have health insurance.
We cannot pay the $1,000.00 a month for it. I don't know how much longer we will be able to make the mortgage payments, taxes, utilities, home owners insurance, auto insurance.
Thank you republican slime for putting george bush cabal in to ruin the economy and cause death and destruction around the world! thank You!
Yup, I very much remember that clip, so, no, it _isn't_ too early to start criticizing Obama. Looks like we're quickly heading for the same old B.S. while the Titanic sinks -- in general with the economy and individually in our lack of any personal security without universal health care.
What a bitch. Call me silly if you want but I do think a Kucinich administration could have done better.
After going threw Worker Comp, I do think the health care system is fowl. I get hurt, with the best health insurance plan, my health insurance wouldn't cover any expenses, so then I get fired, no insurance, no health care, massive pain, and I have to go to court for 1 year before I get any kind of help, unemployed, with hardly any food. The system ended up making me loose my town house move 2 times and sleep in my car for a few weeks. Funny i have no job now, I am permanently unable to go back to doing what I was doing, so I guess now I have to suck of the system, I DEFIANTLY DON'T WANT TO!
Why am I paying taxes again?
I believe in my situation if I would've had the proper treatment I would not be this disabled. I think it might have been cheaper for the insurance CO, government just to help me, oh well. they got their money off my injury tho. It has cost the state almost 20k now to support me and I didn't even sign up for any assistance yet. RETARDS.
Oh yea the prescription pain killers make me ill and screw my mind up, POT helps with the pain, but I am too old now to get POT easily, the kids don't trust older people enough to sell them weed.....
This country SUX, obviously it will continue to suck. NO THANKS.
You're not alone, they do the same thing whether you're single or like me, a wife and four kids.
It's FRAUD, but it's okay if they do it.
I know I'm not alone, I had plenty of time to read on the internet all the wonderful Worker comp story's. It is Fraud when you are paying for full coverage no- co- pay insurance never use it once till u need it then, bam, oh no we are sorry we can't cover that.
They harassed me the entire time following me with cameras, trying to trick me into doing things. Calling me on the phone, just everything possible so they wouldn't have to pay, the cheapest CORPORATE way. I am soon 1 day going to publish my story with the other 200 million on the net. I did never get workers comp from the state, I remained on unemployment because that is also cheaper by 300 a week, suckers.
...then they tell the courts that you got hurt somewhere else, which gets them off the hook. Because there is no way that you could have survived 8 years without any money coming in, you had to have worked somewhere. My comp. lawyer actually told me that.
The change we need?
Gag me.
We get a CNN news star as surgeon general. The last thing, the absolute last thing we need in government is one more villager.
Barrack Obummer, the audacity of hope fades into the reality of despair and disappointment.
Mr. Obummer, oh all inclusive one, when will you include a true progressive in your administration?
He's a corporatist prostitute. They don't care about people, only money.
Seriously, he's such a corporate tool: just muddy the waters enough so that people will think Michael Moore is nothing more than an anti-American agitator. That way, they don't have to listen to the arguments raised in Sicko b/c we sure don't want to substitute our fabulous free enterprise "health care" with socialized medicine. Same basic playbook used by oil/gas sector shills who want to raise doubts about the overwhelming evidence on global warming.
I love how he bites his lower lip throughout the interview, like he really sympathizes with Michael's well-intentioned, but fundamentally flawed, effort to critique the U.S. system. Like he doesn't want Michael to make more of an ass of himself than he already has. And to leave the impression that Gupta is a caring surgeon, even-handed reporter and all-around stand-up guy.
What's next? Kenny Lay for Commerce?
I can hardly wait for Obama's Attorney General pick.
Rumsfeld?
or
Gonzales!
Heck of a job, Barry.
I can hardly wait
Wed, 01/07/2009 - 06:35 — Rollo Tomassi
I can hardly wait for Obama's Attorney General pick.
ann colter?
He may as well pick Karl fucking Rove...
Obamas appointments are not makin me happy at all.
... you guys may not be that far off.
I am right there with you. I have already seen the writing on the wall. And the apologists basically telling me to cram it are not helping at all to ease the sinking feeling that we have been had.
to admit defeat yet.
But I'm definitely gettin pissed.
...why I'm so pissed. I was looking for a word to sum up what the sense of what has been building sense Barry started naming his cabinets choices. The word finally filtered up through the subconscious: betrayal.
Fuck him.
but it's not as if there weren't plenty of warnings...
He kissed Lieberman's war-mongering ass.
He kissed Donnie McClurkin's homophobic ass.
He already kissed Rick Warren on one ass cheek and now is planting another on the other one.
He voted for FISA.
He voted for the Patriot Act renewal.
All red flags.
All ignored.
We have been, once again, played for suckers by the same folks who gave us the guy we wanted to have a beer with. Now we're stuck with mr. charisma/historic man.
What chumps we mortals be.
And, as Barnum said, there are plenty more being born every minute.
Krugman said it perfectly.
This guy is another corporate shill.
We will never get health care.
I know everyone is programmed to hate Nader, but he is the only one speaking the truth.
What an Obummer.
Obama's picks are starting to look like a bad episode of the Oprah Winfrey show. This is just the beginning and I don't like it.
Got any?
i cant believe i was so far ahead of my time! i saw what obummer was long before the we have to elect a black candidate because he knows how to give a good speach instead of a candidate like dennis kucinich, a man who spoke from honesty, now your getting the picture we just have the republican the news whores and the corporations steered you to dureing the primarys and i said as much,then i get attacked for saying it , called a whiner by some , but the thing is !i watched obummers news confrences unlike some and saw this guy was a ringer , of course hes picked gupta as surgon general hes part of the old change you can expect in dc , dont look for anything but four more yrs of being sold out by these fith collumists , america will be lucky to servive two more yrs so enjoy the ride to the bottom !
Yup, you sure did. Gives a sinking feeling, that's for sure.
morning paul , its allways a pleasure to see you on here ,
You, too. You never stopped warning people from day one. And we ain't seen nothing yet...wait 'til he starts nominating supreme court justices.
Would have gotten the nod the Corporate media would have destroyed him and we would now have VP Palin
destroyed him during the alleged "debates" prior to the primaries. Their first pic was the neocon HRC, and Obama was their fallback pick.
...but he was already UFO'ed by then
wasnt it apparent when the news whores asked him that stupid question that he was being setup? that many dont believe in ufos kucinich said he says he saw one , but said that doesnt mean i saw little green men! in 1954 patroling off north korea , while on bridge lookout my whole bridge watch includeing my captan watched 4 ufos traveling across the sky at high speeds , and that was before ufos were widely reported, but the point is anyone with any brains could see the corporate news whores were belittling the only man on the debates worth voteing for!
...take the train that's going to get you the closest to your destination, If the train your on runs out of fuel, that doesn't mean that you get out and push, it means you get on the next train that will get you closer to where your headed.
Or you could walk I guess.
That's what this shitty system is about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPPBnciNAqI
Yuh, I suppose you could ride the boat too.
I always wanted that dude to run into an iceturd and sink
ive heard that old song and dance before! what ever happened to the crowd on here that said the republicans were so bad even micky mouse could beat mccain?
...you were an Edwards supporter?
only after they and the brain dead caused kucinich to bow out, but i was luke warm on edwards at best , he was to slick to embrace as a president ,
Obama was my second to last pick actually.
The best thing about this is that Krugman quoted Digby!
Also because Gupta "mugged" Michael More about Sicko it gave Sicko MUCH more air time and more exposure so in the end it worked out better. Moore came back and called Gupta out on his misrepresentation. CNN gives Moore a lot of air. Especially Larry King.
and i will add i never encourage any to vote for edwards i just felt thier was no other choice left,
Do you really think that Gupta will get in the way of Obama's national health care? Like Gupta is going to change Obama's mind that we need something new. No, Gupta will be more in the way of telling people not to get fat.
Is no better than John Stossel in my book.
We do remember Stossels hit piece on this same subject, don't we?
Expect the Manhattan Institute to come out in full force against single payer universal healthcare, Stossel is on their payroll and I'm betting so is Gupta. The Institute is funded by big Pharma and insurance.
Expect to see a lot more of this woman too, Regina E. Herzlinger
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is going to announce by Friday, that the new cabinet post of "first daughter" has been given to Chelsea Clinton.
Hey die hard Obama supporters, have you seen enough yet that people can start criticizing Obama? Is this the "change" in store? A pharma corp butt licker for surgeon general? Oh ya, healthcare is gonna get "changed" isn't it. Universal even.
Up next on CNN.....Wolf Blitzer says good bye as he was chosen by the new Administration to be the Secretary of Propaganda.
good morning concerned!as for your question about do we have permission yet to voice our concerns about obummers policys yet?, negative! the im for one am going to wait for obummer to be sworn in before i question his stated policys , will not approve of anyone whos actualy listened to thoes speaches hes allready stated or see the direction hes going in with his cabinnet picks, so just stf up and dont believe anything he says untill he raises up his right hand and after that and only after that his words can be believed, or atleast explaind to you by the obamerac supporters, sanji gupters the iceing on the cake just dont get sick you cant afford him!
John Kizthaber, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kitzhaber
Would have been my first choice!
I am so disappointed in Obama, that it just want to make me puke!
The Health Issue is primary concern, and education a big second.
It is a huge insult to the people to consider hiring a talking head from a lying tv company that is for profit, no matter what the qualification. I doubt much that Gupta has the experience to handle life outside his bubble. Hire a CNN hack to be surgeon general?
It is becoming surreal. Hire a known liar to protect the people of our country? It is rather insulting.
John Kitzhaber would be a good choice. I doubt he would accept though. He was a real physician. He did ER. He has a conscience though, so he probably wouldn't qualify. I met the man. He is not full of shit. He is probably overqualified.
Or was it appointed?
I would propose a massive groundswell for Kucinich to run and win in four years. It would at the very least send a distinctly direct message to obama that we are not going to go along for the ride. He continues to disappoint with his crappy appointments all the while feeling as the politician feels, hell, i'm elected, what can you do??? well, we can do much. we can muster all of our forces and get behind the truthfullness and candor of dennis kucinich. begin this early and strong enough so that the media cannot do to him what they did in the last election. obama cannot be allowed to continue doing what he is doing. yes, i like millions of others, was a full-on obama supporter. i wanted to see a Black man elected to that office. But this is a traitor. Worse than the fact that he is a traitor, the fact that he is Black lends credence to his cause and that is even more alarming. Time to begin the groundswell for kucinich, not to just send a message, but rather because you believe in the man and his message. happy new year, bullshit, more of the same.
Besides Gupta's uninformed attack on Michael Moore, he's also demonstrated a certain leaning away from the basic principles of informed consent. The term may be unfamiliar to most readers simply because it is rarely challenged. In essence it means that before you take a medication you must be fully informed about its risks and benefits and must offer your voluntary consent. Otherwise, as Neuremberg implies, you are the subject of an experiment without your consent.
Gupta will argue that Medicine knows all and has in my recollection used rather religious terms to describe medicine. The HPV vaccine, for example, as the "Holy Grail". Which it is not.
Obama would have done a better service to the cause of public health (which is an educational function) by appointing an ordinary, but experienced, family practice physician with a public health interest to the job.
Instead, in my view, we get a shill for the pharmaceutical industry.
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You notice all these people who get to high places, are Yes people. They go along with the wingnuts. I am shocked that Obama would pick GUPTA, he is a corporist.
Oh..well. No universal healthcare..that is for sure.
Well folks I hope you are prepared for a big let down in Obama , it's looking more and more like I ,for one , have been suckered big time. Maybe suckered isn't fair , Obama didn't really deceive as much as we progressives hoped for , assumed and took for granted far too much . He will be a let down but at the same time Obama will be an improvement over Bush and his cronies of the last eight years , that's for damned sure.
You happy, hope-y kids.
You got bamboozled.
Keep chugging those legal energy drinks and beer, because marijuana is dangerous and we'll have to put you in prison if we catch you with it.
For your own good!
Maybe Sheriff Joe Arpaio will put you on TV.
Still, Obama is better than the alternative, unless he appoints a couple conservatives to the Supreme Court.
He wouldn't do that! He looks so progressive!
Our first Conservative Black President will have a hard time getting re-elected with the Progressive base staying home in 2012.
Anslinger's War on Marijuana goes on, and Nixon's War on Drugs turns 40 this July.
Ironic that the Obama Administration would agree with Harry Anslinger.
Kucinich for president.
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