Palin's 2012 Plans Leaves McCain Campaign "Speechless"
By Nicole Belle Wednesday Oct 29, 2008 3:15pmIt looks like someone is just putting in the motions this week, biding her time for her next chance in the spotlight. I'm sure the McCain campaign appreciates the hell out of this.
BLITZER: And this just coming into the "Situation Room," the Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin now speaking out openly about her intentions in 2012 if, if she and John McCain were to lose this contest next Tuesday. In an interview with ABC News, Sarah Palin is now saying, she would be interested in remaining a serious national political figure, going ahead to 2012. She was asked what happens in 2012 if you lose on Tuesday, would you simply go back to Alaska? Elizabeth Vargas of ABC News asked her and Palin said this, and I will read it to you verbatim according to an ABC News transcript: "Absolutely not," Sarah Palin says. "I think that, if I were to give up and wave a white flag of surrender against some of the political shots that we've taken, that ... that would ... bring this whole ... I'm not doin' this for naught," and that is a direct quote from Sarah Palin. Clearly, leaving open the possibility that she would be interested in leading the Republican Party in 2012 if she and John McCain were to lose this presidential contest right now. Let's go to Dana Bash. She has been covering the McCain campaign reaction from the rather blunt statement from Sarah Palin that she would in fact be interested in leading the Republican Party going forward after Tuesday if they lose?
BASH: I just got off of the phone, Wolf, with a senior McCain adviser and I read this person the quote and I think it is fair to say that this person was speechless. There was a long pause and I just heard a "huh" on the other end of the phone. This is certainly not a surprise to anybody who has watched Sarah Palin that she is interested in potentially future national runs, and she is being urged to by a lot of people inside of the Republican Party if they do lose, but it is an "if" and people inside of the McCain campaign do not want any discussion that has an "if" in front of it six days before the election, they don't want any discussion at all, any kind of hypothetical talk about running for the next time around. So certainly, this is not at least initially being received well inside of the McCain campaign.
BLITZER: I am not surprised, not surprised at all. It is one of those "wow, she is talking about 2012 if we lose," that is not supposed to be something that you say. You are supposed to say, "well, I'm not looking ahead, I'm not looking ahead only to Tuesday," and those are the talking points she's supposed to be saying, but she is obviously blunt and she is looking ahead if something were to happen on Tuesday that she wouldn't be happy with.
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Wow that quote makes her seem as articulate as GW Bush. That right there makes me gently weep.
Is it too much to ask that someone who is running for high office have the ability to put a cohesive, coherent sentence together?
She's George W. Bush, only dumber. Quite a feat there, Sarah. You're several levels below Quayle, too.
The plants sitting in my living room window have more brain matter than this woman.
Go back to Wasilla, Sarah. You are in way over your head. Buh bye, now.
I don't get stupidity from the comments so much as I get an incredible self-centeredness and blind ambition. This is a person who thinks that everything is about HER and - as we've seen on the campaign - is willing to do or say ANYTHING to further herself. No integrity. No decency. No sense of right and wrong.
She got to where she is now by turning on the Wasilla mayor who mentored her politically, rose to further prominence by turning on the head of the Alaskan GOP and took the Governorship from Murkowski - a fellow Republican and a veritable institution in Alaskan politics. It was only a matter of time before she stabbed McCain in the back.
I'd laugh at her if she didn't have all those millions of crazies who support her: this is a truly SCARY person to have in American politics.
I agree completely with what you said, Joe, but you have to admit that she doesn't have the ability to continue a cohesive thought or put any thought into any kind of well structured sentence.
I see that as stupidity...but it could just be ignorance.
Either way, it is very, very bad.
i see it as too much information for a limited vessel. she only gets bits and pieces and the rest overflow to the drain.
This is definately a "Sarah First, Country Second" move, or so it would seem to me.
Sarah Palin is ready to be not only V.P., but according to this short video, she is ready to be President of the United States!!!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj5PI0NKe0U
(It's Halloween!! Be ready for a laugh!)
Maverick = Me, Me, Me, Me, Meeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!
I "betcha" he wishes he had vetted her a little bit more now.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
The only political figure (W and Quayle aside) whom SNL only needed to quote verbatim from her REAL speeches to get laughs! Truly, the Dems will have the last laugh, as Brunette Ambition Sarah goes back to Alaska only to find the electorate much better informed about what kind of Lady McBeth they sent to the Governor's Mansion. I hear there's another investigation of her antics brewing there. Then there's the potential FEC investigation of her clothing.
I'm pretty sure that's why the MSN always quotes Palin and Bush VERBATIM. They generally don't quote people like Obama, or George Will verbatim, because half of their words will fly right over the head of the average tee vee viewer. So, they're willing to dumb-down quotations from egg heads that sound too esoteric. But they never pay idiots the courtesy of smartening-up their dialogue.
Making people like Palin and Bush look like idiots by simply quoting them verbatim is cute enough, but things REALLY get funny when people like Palin then turn around and screech at the news media for "making" them look stupid by quoting them verbatim. Sort of like the way they screeched at People magazine by...putting Palin's face on the cover. ...???...
I have a 3.9 GPA from DePaul University and I want people who are smarter than me running our government.
Palin ain't it.
I wonder what her GPA was for her Journalism degree (obtained via, what, five different schools?) I would bet the house on less than a 3.0.
Don't know if this is really really real, but check this out:
buzzfeed.com/scott/sarah-palins-sat-scores
And judging from her verbal performance on the national stage to date, it kinda do seem real ...
BTW, I believe scores in the low 400's are barely mediocre ...
I don't know if it was authentic but it was beyond frightening should it be proven to be true.
You really amuse me as always with intellectual figures that really don't matter, MsJoanne, once again Intellect does not equate to the Presidency. What was the criteria to be President again?.... hmmm, doesn't say anything about intellect or GPA... Thank you,
Oh btw 2012, Bobby Jindal all the way, look up some research on him and even you may be surprised MsJoanne.
is a whackadoodle too. He actually thinks that he participated in an exorcism.
You show yourself to be dumber every single day.
Your words always crack me up - in an ironic sort of way. Do you realize how stupid you are? Your ignorance is simply stunning...jaw droppingly stunning.
No, I didn't think so.
And, LibertyLover, whackadoodle is the perfect word for Jindal.
Look at the difference between Bill Clinton and George Bush.
It is far superior to have an IQ higher than the average temperature of your refrigerator. Now Look at McCain who graduated damn near the bottom of his class at Annapolis.
Then look at Obama. Magna Cum Laude at-------------what was the name of that institution of higher learning?
I have it right here, on the tip of my tongue.
Bobby Jindal may very well be a very intelligent person. I'll take your word for it.
He's smart enough to affiliate himself with the GOP during the worst period since Nixon.
You're just throwing stones. I really does get quite boring.
Oh, and how about Gov' Palins level of education?
I have all these stats around here somewhere.
Why don't you post a link and give us his educational history John?
You know the old saying.
Those who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.
I'm still trying to remember the name of the school.
HARVARD!
Oh, so you must now go to Harvard to be the intellectual all of you so crave....wow, such intellectual elitist who think (in their own little imaginary world) that they are better than everyone else because they have a fancy diploma and speak big words...LA TE DA...
The ignorance around here is so blind.
Bobby Jindal, if you would like his credentials and education background, stop being so lazy and go look it up :)
And MsJoanne, you are the dumb one who cannot see past the tip of their nose because they think so little of people without a degree to their name, how pompous and snobbish are you?
Jeez, John, we're not talking about running your fucking lemonade stand here, we're talking about being the top two people in the United States of America.
Go vote for your Sarah Palin.
Go now...go away.
Really John. Surely you have something better than that.
You brought up Jindal. You supply the link. That's the way it works. Don't like it,tough. Why should I help you out?
Now, intellectual elitest? Yes, that is something you are not.
In this day and age, with the way children get educated in this country, To get a higher education and to excel to such a height would be an elite. Just like the best athletes,or the best troops. They are elites.
And yes, your ignorance is astounding. And it's willful at that.
Graduating at the top of your class from such a prestigious learning institution would make him an elite.
You continually throw out these childish barbs.
Well, that happens when you're not very educated.
LOL, really.
And you think McCain is a better solution. Go figure?
You could tell by something he said last night which was patently false and had just been said by Rush yesterday.
Right up there with Fox...most uneducated and stupid people listen to Rush and watch Fox. They get pure propaganda and don't realize it.
Very sad statement to our country, IMHO.
John, back in school did you pick on the nerd that now signs your paycheck?
Errrrrr I believe the point was intellegence not education.
And to say that Jindal is only a whackadoodle is to speak highly of him. He's actually much more wacked then your average whackadoodle.
But one could argue, To be intelligent. First one should have an education. The higher the education the better. No?
Otherwise, one has What? Street smarts?
Which I call common sense. That is a critical part of intelligence.
I disagree. You do not have to be educated to be intelligent. I know people who are very, very smart who are not college graduates. I used to date a guy who has a very successful business and never went to college, even though he grew up in a college town. He was a very bright man.
I value education. It opens the mind (something John could use).
One of my best friends is a Harvard grad (MA in social policy, PhD now from U of Ottawa). I do not have an advanced degree. She always jokes that she thinks that I am smarter than she, but she writes better than I.
Harvard was my dream. I strived for good grades and got them. When I went to apply to grad school, they did not have my course of study. I would have gone into hock for life to get a Harvard degree. I was crushed that they didn't have my desired course of study (social psych which I think they now offer). Other universities didn't mean as much to me. I wanted Harvard. I never went to grad school.
But education does not make a person intelligent. One can learn much on their own, should they possess the desire to do so.
My point being, Obama is a helluva lot smarter than McCain.
My using education, was just an example of his smarts. He's smart enough to get an education. And pursue it to it's point of positive returns.
Also, John needed to hear it that way.
Yes, it is true that some people can learn more from life. Life is a learning curve.A thing that President Obama also has excelled in. Some people get it, some don't.
But I agree with you MsJoanne. And I think you said it well.
Still blathering on with your anti-intellectual bullshit I see. Very original.
I would suggest...that you not come on here and call anyone "the dumb one" ok...because, your ignorance shines so brightly, it's hurtin everyones eyes.
Yeah, I want a president in there I could've beat at checkers when I was ten years old.
Wow, I never thought I would see such flagrant pompous, snobbish attitudes in my life.
Let me enlighten all of you so called intellects.
Our forefathers believed all mean are created equal, this is why being President does not require a degree, or becoming a scholar.
"You do not have to be educated to be intelligent"
"But education does not make a person intelligent. One can learn much on their own, should they possess the desire to do so."
Thank you for making my point MsJoanne.
Now the problem lies in what you want, if you base a candidate only on intellect, then you are definitely a fool. Now if you disagree with positions, that is something of another matter.
I have never said I want a President who is dumb as an ape, my argument has been that being an intellectual elitist is not a requirement to be President(please learn to read and comprehend)but most of the time all I see is Obama is so smart and McCain is so dumb.
Now if you had ideas and thoughts and disagreements on issues of both candidates then those are valid, but to keep bringing up this intellectual issue is ridiculous at best.
One last thing, none of you know me, don't assume I have not gone to college, because I have. Don't assume I did not graduate in the top 2% of my class, because I did.Don't assume I have not served my country, because I have. Don't assume I am some uneducated moron that doesn't know anything about anything, because I do. I own a very successful business and do very well for myself, I treat my employees like people should be treated.
Point being, you don't know me, so don't pretend or assume you do.
And finally here is the link to our future President.
http://www.nilacharal.com/enter/celeb/Bobby-J...
I assume you're an ignorant asshole. You prove me correct daily.
As I always reiterate to you, MsJoanne, when you feel the need to leave civility behind and begin to use such foul language, you prove me correct how truly non intellectual you are every day. :)
Ignore me. Better yet, leave me the fuck alone. If you want to take me on every day, which you started, then bring it on. But don't bitch and whine about my language. You couldn't keep up with me if you tried.
They're words. Deal with it.
You read to much into it.
I am not complaining about the language per Se,
by all means use whatever language you would like to use, it will continue to reinforce my statement from above.
Oh by the way, you are right about one thing, I couldn't keep up with you if I tried because, I would never bring myself down to the profanity that you seem to use as common language. If you ever decide to come up from that level, let me know and we can go a few rounds on issues between the candidates, instead of the intellect of the candidates.
The feinting couch is over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You show your ignorance on positions and issues daily.
"The feinting couch is over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"
you must use it a lot since you know where it is. :)
"You show your ignorance on positions and issues daily."
Ah, but you see, you must know my positions first before knowing anything. What I see most of the time on this blog are videos about clothes, or a speech Obama gave, or who is jumping ship here or there, do people actually discuss issues on here? I mean look at the front page right now, what do you see? The only legitimate issue is the one about health care. Come on, even you must see that.
in the top 2% of your class, as you claim, that college needs to lose its accreditation, and pronto, Tonto. It should be razed to the ground and the rubble should be shot into the sun, just to be safe.
Why so harsh, you ask? Because your writing skills just... aren't... up to snuff, little fella.
But for being so educated. You're not very smart.
At least not by the way you throw out your arguments.
Vote For Bush, did ya?
I voted for Clinton both times when he ran and I voted for Bush both times also, if you really must know.
OK mudshark, I will raise my level of arguments to the next level, thank you for pointing that out to me. Seriously though, some of the statements I have seen come across this blog......
You're right. I'm sick of the name-calling on both sides, and I've been guilty of it myself. So... keeping a civil discussion in mind here, can I ask you, in retrospect, do you agree with Bush's policies over the last eight years? If not, how do you see McCain's policies as being different from his? What aspects of McCain's policies do you prefer over Obama's?
I get angry because I would very, very much prefer to discuss the issues, but what I seem to hear from the RNC is name-calling and fear-mongering -- elitist, terrorist collaborator, secret Muslim, socialist, Marxist -- and I just get so sick of it. It appeals to the lowest, basest instincts of humanity. And because of this, it works for those who would rather not spend any time actually thinking about the issues. (And it just incites more of the same from the other side. I've been definitely guilty of this too.)
If somebody honestly prefers McCain's economic or foreign policy stance above Obama's, for specific reasons, then I can respect them. If they just step back and yell "socialist" or terrorist," then I'm going to assume they're doing so because it feels good and it's easy. Hell, I know it is. Calling Bush a "murderer" is extremely cathartic -- righteous indignation always is. But it also boils the situation down to overly simplistic, emotional terms.
The reason I am disturbed by Sarah Palin is not because she appears "stupid." As plenty of people have noted, Carter was supposedly brilliant but a largely ineffectual President. Reagan wasn't exactly a professor, yet regardless of whether you agree with his views, you have to admit he was definitely effectual.
The reason I am disturbed by Ms. Palin is because I do not trust her judgment, and because I do not respect the way she repeatedly brings up insignificant, emotion-laden topics to stir up fear, anger and xenophobia and whip crowds into base, orgiastic frenzies of hatred and derision. I have seen speeches from both sides. Obama tells people to stop booing, says "we don't need that" and reminds people that they should vote if they really want to make a difference. Palin smiles broadly and drinks in the booing crowds like it is some sort of ambrosia. McCain earned serious points in my book for the time he quieted the people and corrected the "he's an Arab" woman... and then he was booed himself, so a week later he was back at it again, substituting "socialist" for "terrorist sympathizer".
There are loons projecting hate and fear on both sides, but from what I have witnessed, Palin has at best done nothing to stop it, and at worst has eaten it up like candy. We do not need that right now.
I hope I've been able to make my points in an intelligent and reasonably logical manner.
Thank you for bringing civility to this blog.
I do not agree with all of the Bush policies, I do disagree with a few.
Now, for the policies, I do not agree with McCain on every issue either. I just happen to agree with him on more issues than I do on Obama's issues.
I am pro life
I believe we should finish the fence and reform immigration. How many people have lost employment due to illegals being in the country? The people that hire them should also face ramifications.
I am a business owner, the tax plan of Obama taxes me a great deal more and McCain's doesn't
I believe English should be the national language, Obama does not, McCain does.
I would be for gay marriage on a state by state scale only, let the states decide.
These are fundamental issues that I hold dear to my heart and my moral fiber. I cannot vote for someone who will raise my taxes and is pro choice. These two alone, are enough for me.
He is a great speaker, and intellectual, I will give him that, but his policies on a personal basis are not good for me.
Thank you again GSL for bringing civility and balance back to these forums.
Those of you who voted for Bush for the last two presidential elections and have voted for worthless republican representatives.You are partially responsible for the mess that the GOP, Bush, and McCain have created over the last eight years. I wouldn't go around admitting that you are proud to have voted for Bush- the worst President this country ever had. Bush lied and thousands died.The overwhelming majority of the people in this country are tired of your old worn out hateful political tactics and failed policies. It's time for a change!Obama is in the lead get used to it!!!
John said....
"Let me enlighten all of you so called intellects."
reply to you ...honestly, I want to hear everything you have to say because since you aren't ignorant, then you are all knowing. Please, enlighten us.
You think you know everything, you come here spewing garbage and then call everyone else ignorant.You're kidding, right??? You are laughable.
No, actually, everyone tells me I am a moron on here, so why is it so wrong for me to think that of you? Oh I get it, only you are always right and I am always wrong, nice, please....
Its because your one of the semi-retards who has lived through the last eight years of republican disaster, and your so dense you haven't yet figured out how utterly useless and evil they are.
You are stupid! And you can't fix stupid.
Barack Obama, FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!
Shes has assorted ethics and corruption issues hanging over her head, some could result in her becoming a convicted felon.
I would imagine Todd would 'take one for the team' and do her time for the $500,000 house that the friends of Sen. Ted Stevens built for her.
Actually, she might well get to be the 2012 GOP
sacrificial lambstandard-bearer: anyone in their right mind knows that unless Obama really lays an egg, which seems unlikely, he'll breeze to a reelction in 2012. But Palin is probably dumb enough to think it's a honor.If Palin gets the nod in 2012, it'll be a sign that the national GOP is dead...just as it is in Oregon, where they cannot field any credible candidates for state-wide office.
It'll take them years to figure out where they went wrong...if ever.
...at least that's my dream !
Mine, too. Dead, buried and never to rear its corrupt, disgusting, despicable heads ever again. Here's hoping they go the way of the Whigs.
While Obama tries to deal with the losing hand to which he's dealt, Palin will be in the spotlight.
Hate to say it. You want entertainment. In short bites. Palin beats almost everyone.
That's just your opinion, man. She is as phony as they come, and she'll be a footnote after the 4th. At least for a while until she can figure out how to steal the spotlight. Maybe she'll actually roll up her sleeves and PUT COUNTRY FIRST, ya think??
Too much to clean up in this bush-ravaged country/world for anyone to waste time with this booty pageant loser....besides,she does have an infant in the house, with special needs, and a grandchild on the way.
She wants to suck as much of the spotlight before she disappears.....or takes a teevee show of some lesser form to feed the ego........I find her quite obnoxious.
paging Fox news
You will find her patently offensive and obnoxious. She is the dumbest person I have seen in politics in years (ok, barring Michelle Bachmann and possibly Steve King),
A Palin/Joe the Plumber ticket would be a great pairing for president/vice president for 2012. Oh god, I can see it now.
I kid you not, Palin/Bachmann '12.
I swear to the FSM. TP had it on there the other day.
I think I got a case o' the heebie jeebies.
Thanks, MsJoanne...;)
Anything for you, doll. ;-)
When I first saw it, I thought it was a joke. When I followed to the site and read it, I nearly bust a gut laughing.
Bachmann is going to be lucky to retain her seat and Palin is pretty well done in even sleazy AK politics. And double good riddance.
Brainless and Saneless!
I asked above for Palin and JtP (what a ticket...talk about being laughed out of the country!) but for Palin/Bachmann...which is which?
They could rotate roles, if not their heads a full 360...
Dumb and dumber...but which is which?
This the shit you don't go around talking about. You keep some shit to yourself. This woman is your classic narcisscist, and I am not one for armchair psychology. Frightening.
She can lead the Republican party and drive it kicking and screaming into the grave to her hearts content.
There would be much amusement for everybody (non GOP) in watching that unfold to its logical conclusion.
Entertainment????!
I guess instead of running for VP or making a comback in 4 years (which is ludicrous just on the face of it) Miss Sarah could get a job being a parody of herself on SNL....!
I think you and I and the rest of the 'elite intelligensia' seriously misunderestimate the appeal of la Palin to the truly stupid, the true believers, the born-again, bible-blathering bigots, as well as the sheer, raw numbers of such folks there are, out there, in fly-over Murka, just waiting to be rallied to the banner of Righteous, Wrong-headed the Sarah-cooter, St. OOOPIT.
I've lived both in and near a couple such places where those sorts of folks abound. Places absolutely awash in Dominionism, Eliminationism, Exceptionalism, and proud ignorance, all stewed together through generations of local in-breeding and narrow-mindedness.
Palin is a force. Yes, she's a parvenu, yes she's small-time hustler, but she's also a gifted grifter who knows with utter certainty where her bread is buttered.
The sloping forehead/ridged eye-brow/prognathous jaw segment of the population is huge, and she's their Patron Saint.
...the chimp with boobs.
What are Cheney and Rice?
How do you really feel about the South and Mid-America?
OK, I just called and left a message. I think I'll just keep calling over and over leaving messages, maybe put up Obama speeches up on my computer and let them play into the phone and run up their phone bill.
Pay it forward.
>>I am not surprised, not surprised at all. It is one of those "wow, she is talking about 2012 if we lose," that is not supposed to be something that you say. You are supposed to say, "well, I'm not looking ahead, I'm not looking ahead only to Tuesday," and those are the talking points she's supposed to be saying, but she is obviously blunt and she is looking ahead if something were to happen on Tuesday that she wouldn't be happy with.<<
Just more of that delicious mavericky goodness we all know and love!
It is now the duty of all liberals and progressives to belittle Palin as much as possible, with the intent of riling up the wingnut Republican base (including Palin herself) to the point where they'll have no choice but to run her for president in 2012.
I don't think she's got the GUTS or BRAINS to run for president in 2012! In fact, I'll bet she doesn't have the guts to be the first person to run for president NAKED! Stuff like that is just way beyond the abilities of your average rube from Wasilla.
Wait for the new administration.
Wait for what you want.
Wait for what you hope.
Come back and see me in 3 years.
You spend a lot of time by yourself, don't you?
yes, I live in my basement.
I have 1 friend.
Thank you for being so perceptive.
I wish you well.
Somebody Just threw Garmpa McCain under the bus.
What do you mean "just?" The entire Republican party threw him under the bus when they gave him the nomination, and they knew it damned well! This was just the part where they threw the bus in reverse, and ran over him again, stopped, got out, and stomped on him.
They weren't going to let their precious little MITT get into this no-win situation. They wanted to keep him clean and un-tarnished for 2012. Everybody knows that was supposed to be the plan. And Palin, she was meant to be a throw away, too, only SHE never got the memo. I think this is the part where Dr. Frankenstein gets down on his knees and starts blubbering about "No...it wasn't supposed to BE like this!"
We have a winner!!
sarah has a half-sister you know...
Abbie Normal.
Are you telling me that I put an abnormal brain into a 7.5 foot tall, 54 inch wide GORILLA? (Or should I say "whack-job/diva"?)
Yeah, we know about you, sarah, and whack-jobs.
WcCain struggling to name his five advisers, it was painful to watch.
Showed he has finally arrived in Raygun senile land.
It took Raygun four years to go lala and arrive at the state of mind WcCain is in NOW, they expect us to elect WcCain already senile to the POTUS job, are the GOP f*cking insane !!!???
Calling defeat so soon? Forget diva, she's a loser.
Stop hatin' and start congratulatin'
Obama/Biden 08
Palin is the gift that keeps on giving. Disparaging your running mate is a major no no. LOL!
What, not even a, "My friends...?"
palin's presidency in 2012 co-incides with the End of Times.
This is the one thing she has qualifications for.
I tripple dog dare her to run in 2012!
Wed, 10/29/2008 - 16:30 — Pericles
How do you know sarah doesn't like three-ways with dogs?
this is NOTHING but wishful thinking on Palin's part. this is it.....it's now or NEVER. part of Palin's
interest by the public is partly due to her being shielded. the more you get to know her, the more you DON'T care for her.
But unless he's got a HUGE margin of victory, he won't be able to claim the mandate to instigate any of the 'reforms' he says he wants.
I mean, it's gonna have to be a ROOSEVELT--'32/36 kinda margin.
Without it, he's hamstrung from the start...
The polls have him at about 50-51 percent, with McCumstain at about 44-45. Nowhere NEAR 100 percent of undecideds are gonna break his way, since most of 'em have already decided--on Bombin' John, but they're embarrassed to say so.
I'd be delighted if the margin were greater than, say 52-48. But with mcKinney, nader, barr, and others taking votes, he'll likely be a plurality president, mebbe with the same numbers as Clenis, who beat Poppie w/only 47%...That's not gonna get it done with BHO...
Winning the 2004 election by less than HALF a percent, and actually LOSING the 2000 election by half a percent never stopped The Shrub from claiming a 'mandate,' and governing as if he had 100% of the vote. And, what's worse is that half the country actually BELIEVED him when he said he had a mandate. (Since a mandate is technically 50%+1, he was right.) What did they base the perception of such a strong mandate on? The red/blue electoral college map. The fact that all of middle america went red, while the coasts turned blue, gave the perception (to some people, anyway) that Bush had won a huge victory, when in fact, it was actually a razor thin margin.
According to the polls, Obama is ahead by somewhere between 5%-10%. By popular vote standards that's actually pretty high, from a historical perspective. But if you look at the way that 5-10% margin breaks down in the electoral college....WOW. If the election were held tomorrow, Obama would win 355 to 156 in the electoral college.
(I can just hear Bill Schneider's goofy voice chirping about "That's a margin of more than TWO TO ONE!" Normally I find his dumbed-down ratios kind of irritating, but this is one I can't WAIT to hear the little statistics-gnome start crowing about on election night.)
Having Bizzaro Barbie as the Repub candidate in 2012 would be a dream come true. All this clueless ditz has is unbridled ambition---with zero intelligence, experience, or common sense.
Imagine Obama running against this putz in 2012---we wouldn't have to work half as hard as we did against Mc Lame.
Of course, Criminal Barbie assumes she can keep her dumb ass out of the slammer too---which I would say is problematic.
Good job Neocons---your Bride of Frankenstein is out of the lab and running loose in public.
Not about the Bizzaro Barbie bit, but about an election against her being easy.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Palin has shown herself to be very good at appealing to stupid people.
I think Sarah is eyeing Steven's Senate seat. I have a feeling the people of Alaska are fed up with this cu**.
McCain gets the disloyalty he deserves for not vetting her. It is clear that she has stabbed everyone in the back who has helped to climb the ladder. She is not to be trusted.
Also, she is smoking crack if she thinks she can get elected president. This kind of talk before the election date will not sit well with a lot of members of the RNC.
McCain: So wuddya think?? HEEEEEEEENNNGGGGH??!!! HEENNNGGGGHHHH??!!
n/t...
To think that this idiot could have a chance is just as insane as I think most republicans are! Just plain ignorant.
Would anyone vote for such a fool?
hahahahahahahahahahaha!
what a bunch of losers the republican party truely is.
my sides hurt from laughing so much about this.
WOW!!!!
She only appeals to the base...which is (again thank God) shrinking.
Yes, all those "shots" she's taken for not answering questions, not naming a single publications she reads, or a single court case outside of roe v. wade are a great way to start a political career.
possible 2012 mottos:
"Sarah Palin '12, cause in 'murika, a president aint gotta read newspapers"
"Sarah Palin '12, because being raped is your fault"
keep it going...
Sarah Palin '12, ready and willing to ignore your questions from day 1!
Sarah Palin '12: meet Todd, the first lady of the country of Alaska
Reporter: "Palin, why are you raising taxes?"
Palin: "I want to go shopping"
And the hits just keep on coming!
Would sarah palin choose victoria jackson for her running mate?
and this snakey bitch coils
itself around mccain's little
naive neck........oops
since the day Mcshame introduced her. Except for the giggles,guffaws,snikers,and outright laughing out loud since the day McShame introduced Her. I really,really hope she means it. I do I do I do . Happy days are here again
Keep it up Sarah...Please keep it up!
"I'm not doin' this for naught,"
sarah's bein' naughty?
That just warms my cockles.
Talk about suffering from delusions of adequacy!
is going to be faced with certain choices.
Choices?
Wars. The economy. Taxes. Healthcare.
What is the next president going to do?
Of course: Make everything fucking wonderful.
Please go back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Have some French bread and cheese to go along with that whine.
Especially if he's lactose intolerant.
a lovely pick-eh-nick basket for him/her.
Honestly dude/dudette, go away.
(with all the snark in the world)
FONDUE!
;-}>--jist a funnin/punnin, y'know/...
I'm tired of the whining. It gets old...really, really old.
THANKS mr. or ms. NEGATIVE.
know how to buck up a crowd,tas. You'd make a glorious day appear gloomy.
This egotistical idiot doesn't get it. These crowds have gone right to her head, and being from a state that has half as many people as she sees in a day's worth of rallies, she thinks she is some sort of goddess.
What a dumb bitch. I hope she runs in 2012. I hope she gets the nomination in 2012. Hell, fred thompson probably won't run again...he'll be napping through the next elections, so they need one more clown up on the stage with all the other cross dressers and extremists.
The repug party is dead. They need to flush the toilet and start over again.
Face it! mcOld is the best they had...and that isn't say much at all.
So ,the side-kick is sticking the blade into the maverick. Right out of the middle ages when the courtiers/sychophants were always alert to a faltering by those at whose pleasure they served so that they could take them out and take charge. Shakespeare nailed it a long time ago. This self-imploding duo of venality and ignorance is a joy to behold.
For cow towing to the extreme right wing for backing, for putting her on the ticket, for being such a total scum during the election. He deserves Palin trying to keep herself in the spotlight.
She deserves obscurity in Alaska for the rest of her days.
She's so much fun! We neeed her to be the RePugs bitch er leader.
You know SNL secretly wants to keep her around and let's not forget Hulu. Hulu could barely keep up with the large amount of traffic due to the Palin SNL videos.
This sort of thing doesn't bode well for that outcome:
She was asked what happens in 2012 if you lose on Tuesday, would you simply go back to Alaska?
"Absolutely not"
she'll be around till her spotlight fades (I give it about six months) then she'll have no choice but to head back to Alaska.
I said she deserves obscurity in Alaska. We deserve her obscurity.
All you good fundamentalists sit on your hands and give Barack Obama a landslide in 2008 and wait for me in 2012!!!
I hear Elizabeth Hasselbeck clusterfuck will be running her campaign.
hasselbach seems mousey to me and predictable.
This is hilarious! The liberal blogosphere called this weeks ago. Maybe McBush should start reading on this side of the fence so he'll have a heads up in future.
LMAO! By 2012 Palin will just be a bad dream - instead of a waking nightmare.
Was the character's name Greg Stilson?
He was uneducated and an object of ridicule.
He was consistently underestimated.
He was incredibly ambitious and completely ruthless.
She is from the same mold.
Christopher Walken will expose her for the shallow fake she is. (But only if you give him enough COW BELL.)
Do you mean Film legend Christopher Walken?
He's the cock of the walk, baby!
If Sarah is the top of the ticket I would hate to see the VP pick
@_@
Ashley Todd!
well, she could insure the mentally ill vote.
How about Miss South Carolina? I can hear the announcement now...
"And so also, I have picked my VeeePeeeee running mate and also that. Here she is! And don't ya know, Miss South Carolina! And-- also!"
"Thank you so much, my fellow US Americans!"
HA! That would be interesting, because due to the 'map shortage', I doubt she knows where (or what) Alaska is!
LOL LOL
That would be a spectacle.
Who think "faith in god" counts more than "experience" or "intelligence". If a sin makes people BAD, then a progressive tax structure makes the government SOCIALIST. These people have never had a critical thought in their lives.
"IF WE VOTE TO HAVE MCCAIN" - a parody of "If I Only Had A Brain.
Click here to watch on YouTube.
Click here to watch on VERSUS.
She's the DOBSON candidate.
There's no doubt that she'll be back (except if Dobson kicks the bucket)...
NOW, does anybody actually think that Grampy ACTUALLY CHOSE HER TO BE ON THE TICKET? Hell, no.
He hasn't been in charge of his campaign AT ALL. EVER.
But there is a solution....TAKE AWAY THE CHURCH'S TAX EXEMPT STATUS. Then let them try and field a candidate.
That's why there's SUPPOSED to be a SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
Which one of the losers chose Moosegurl, amused and LMAOROTF people want to know.
Was it a Republican Tank Girl comic fan !!!
Palin was asked a question.
If she and McCain were to lose, would she just go back to Alaska?
Her response was that she would continue to fight for what she considers her principles.
What Blitzer and the rest are all fucked up about is that she was supposed to say, "We're going to win."
In other words, Blitzer and the rest would have been all content with a conventional bullshit answer.
Palin is a piece of work...
But Blitzer and his buddies in the talking heads game make my flesh crawl.
Where does one start?
With what one believes.
I believe in more of the same. I think you do too.
So let's vote that way.
Vote for more of the same.
Unless you want change.
But that means voting for Kucinich, Nader, or Paul.
Yuk. They're awful. They're not more of the same.
Oh, well. Vote for Obama.
...until we figure out a way to really "change" the system - loosen the grip of the wealthy, elitist, corporate types and their lobbyists - and do real reform to the election process, we're kinda screwed. We need term limits for everybody, scrap the Electoral college, have only public financing, etc. But, those changes have to be made by legislatures, and they ain't gonna' vote themselves off the gravy train. There is the possibility, however, that the current financial crisis might be the impetus that makes real change possible - but not without a lot of pain.
I've decided to vote for Obama, because McCain/PALIN is just unacceptable on mnny levels, but I wouldn't mind if Kucinich was tapped to play an important role in the administration.
I realize that comment was largely born of Palin's deep stupidity-- I mean, she's obviously hasn't got a clue of what she's doing. But that's not the only thing at work there.
Power seems to go to this woman's head very quickly; from trying to have people fired by decree, to poking around on the subject of banning books, to her weird suggested VP power grab during her debate with Joe Biden.
This woman services her ego even more thoroughly that GW Bush.
Why? Because for the next four years and beyond, the Dems have an opportunity to follow "every move she makes" between now and then. Witch- doctor preachers, other ethics violations, etc. She will be under a microscope and being studied by an Obama Administration for chinks in that armor. Anyway, it may not even be an issue... she's got more ethics violations ... this one is called Travelgate... read about it here:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/pali...
That being said, she is a swift learner, and will have 4 years to polish her politics if Obama wins. So it will be up to Alaska's citizens to recall her for ethics or whatever. At any rate, she must not be underestimated.
BTW. Where are her medical records?
gave speech, car journey, then the two connecting plane flights with stopover, then the long car journey (on unpaved Alaskan roads) to the remote clinic to give birth 12 to 16 hours later.
the all batshit crazy team
this was her plan from the time she became gov
its why she hired a pr firm to get her name out nationally
she thinks that she is gods annointed
to get where she is today, she has sucked every dick in alaska for christ
she is a whore for christ
but i have bad news for you sarah....your political career dies on nov 4...theres a grand jury awaiting you and todd up in alaska
its to the political gallows you go
The notion that the Alaskan Goober could move beyond Gimmick VP Pick and become the leader of the GOP is all you need to know about that shallow bunch, imho.
Palin just threw McSame under the Straight Talk Express. Hey Senator, how do those tire tracks feel?
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