Sen. Judd Gregg Claims There Are 20 Million Young People Making $75,000 Or More And Spending $ On Things Other Than Health Care
By Nicole Belle Monday Jul 20, 2009 4:30am
Head. Slams. Against. Keyboard.
What world do Republicans live in? Apparently one in which Welfare Queens drive Cadillacs and Latinos and illegal immigrants routinely ace God-fearing white Americans out of their rightful jobs. Where uppity women don't realize their place is supporting the men in their lives and flounce about, getting abortions willy-nilly? Where laws are really only intended for the unwashed masses and the oligarchy they reinforce are above such mundane concerns.
Indeed, if you listen to Sen. Judd Gregg, it is also a world where 20 million young people make over $75,000 a year and choose not to get health insurance, frittering it all away with their fancy cars and electronic cell phone/camera/potato peelers, I'm sure.
WALLACE: Well, you say that you would like to see the 40-plus million -- there are arguments about specifically how many there are, but the 40-plus million uninsured get coverage. Under your idea, how would they get it? How would the government help them get it? And how would you pay for it?
GREGG: Well, first, it’s not a monolithic group. About 20 million of those folks earn more than $75,000. They’re basically young people who opt to spend their money on something other than health care insurance.
The way we would cover those folks is we would require them to buy health care policies for catastrophic events. They would have to self-insure under that.
Say it with me now: WTF???? Good to know that this is the man Obama wanted to head the Commerce Department, isn't it?
Since he's used these numbers (or a variation of them) before, for a split second, I thought about searching for where Gregg got his "facts", but honestly, I just don't want to be that close to Gregg's nether regions, because that's the only place such a ludicrous claim could come from.
Here are some real facts that Gregg might want to chew on:
CDC: Percentage of Americans With Private Health Insurance Hits 50-Year Low
Some experts blamed the faltering economy and corporate decisions to raise health insurance premiums — or do away with employee coverage — as the main drivers of the recent data. They say coverage statistics for 2009 may look even worse.
However, public coverage of adults is rising in some states, due to programs like Medicaid expanding eligibility. So not all the adults without private coverage are uninsured, Thorpe said
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Income Gaps Hit Record Levels In 2006, New Data Show
Rich-Poor Gap Tripled Between 1979 and 2006
The data reveal starkly uneven income growth over recent decades. Between 1979 and 2006, real after-tax incomes rose by 256 percent — or $863,000 — for the top 1 percent of households, compared to 21 percent — or $9,200 — for households in the middle fifth of households and 11 percent — or $1,600 — for households in the bottom fifth. [..] In 2006, the average household in the top 1 percent had an income of $1.2 million, up $63,000 just from the prior year; this $63,000 gain is nearly two times the total income of the average middle-income household. [1]
In addition, the share of national after-tax income going to the top 1 percent of households more than doubled between 1979 and 2006, rising from 7.5 percent to 16.3 percent. Taken together with prior research, the new data suggest greater income concentration at the top than at any time since 1929. [2]
But Gregg thinks the answer is to mandate insurance and tax benefits:
GREGG: Well, that’s going to cost money. That’s going to cost money, and the way we pay for it is by limiting the deductibility of high-end health insurance premium plans.
So we do pay for it, and we do cover everyone, and we put in place a replacement of the reimbursement system so we reimburse doctors on the basis of quality and outcomes rather than on the basis of the number of procedures.
Uh huh. That'll work. Hey Judd, how 'bout you do some reading:
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Judd Gregg favors creating a massive welfare system to benefit the criminal insurance rackets, which includes a law requiring everybody to shop at the company store. To balance everything out, I do hope that the enabling legislation also revives debtor prisons, just to complete the landscape.
I'll bet the average Joe and Jane prisoner in this country gets better health care than many of us...again, PUBLICLY RUN.
Even the privitization of prisons is being paid for with our tax dollars, just like the privitization of war with Blackwater...oops, I mean XE and Triple Canopy. The job gets done at twice the price, but what the heck, the tax payer suckers will foot the bill.
As to those making $75,000/year opting out of insurance I find that very hard to believe. $75,000/yr. is not a bad salary in these days. A job like that I would bet would include the BENEFIT of health insurance. And I'd also bet that anyone making that kind of dough went to college.
Any average family member would teach their adult children to always opt in for health insurance as a benefit even if it means an extra hundred bucks floating out of your weekly check to get it. That advice is right up there with, "Make sure you wear clean underwear every day in case you're in an accident."
Only a major moron making that kind of money would say, "Naaa, I'd rather have the extra $400/mo. cause I am INVINCIBLE!!! I LEARNED THAT AT COLLEGE!!!"
Maybe getting arrested will be the only way the 50 million uninsured will be able to get quality health care.
Jeesh....
Yeah, I did say WTF several times while reading his quotes. Seems most people we hear speak against Obama's plan are the people who can afford the insurance they have and they just blame some portion of the population for the real problems we are facing. In this case it's those pretend young whipper-snappers who are blowing their big buckets of money on new fandangle gadgets.
I have no doubt some are living like they have $75,000 incomes, but it's all on a credit card.
and paying off student loans.
And that's not limited to just young people either. Some of the age who should have known better were and maybe still are doing the same thing.
I never really did. I've spent years thinking I was so underpaid, and probably was, because all my contemporaries had the latest fanciest cars and clothes, while my biggest expense was accumulating books and movies.
I didn't want long term debt simply because I didn't know how to maintain it.
It never occurred to me until recently that they probably couldn't afford their lifestyles either. They were just increasing their debt load.
It was defaulting on student loans that made them harder to get for those who came up afterwards.
Yes, long ago my husband and I figured out how everyone seemed to have newer fancier stuff than we did and we didn't want to go where they went to get that stuff. Credit is for us, only for dire emergencies.
About twenty years ago. He nearly KILLED me with a root canal.
I stiffed him on his $2000 bill after almost blowing my brains out because of the pain he caused me.
Anyhow, he went to small claims court and got a judgment against me and one day my bank account was $2000 lighter.
Since then I haven't been able to get any credit cards so I live "cash and carry".
It's the best thing that ever happened to me. When I tell people I have NO DEBT they drool.
Of course, I'm living on a fixed income of savings now and can't work due to my back being in terrible shape (due to nursing....DOH!), which means I can't afford health insurance. Today $500/mo. just doesn't factor in to my budget.
The thing is, STOP comparing yourself to others. It brings the greatest freedom.
I know who I am, I don't care what they have. I don't need or want what they have. My life is rich already (without material things.)
100% debt free and loving it, here.
[edit PS It's a very hard thing to do because none of us were raised that way, even if we think we were. We weren't. We've been barraged with consumer propaganda since birth. It takes a major shift inside, you have to change your thinking, re-wire yourself, and it takes time. Took me about a decade to do. Even still, I get the odd stirrings of my brainwashed past, but they are momentary now.)
(These posts are yoga notes, from me.)
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"What world do Republicans live in? Apparently one in which Welfare Queens drive Cadillacs and Latinos and illegal immigrants routinely ace God-fearing white Americans out of their rightful jobs. Where uppity women don't realize their place is supporting the men in their lives and flounce about, getting abortions willy-nilly? Where laws are really only intended for the unwashed masses and the oligarchy they reinforce are above such mundane concerns."
Nicole, you crack me up! That was perfect!
As to Sen. Gregg, not much to hear here. See the "R" associated with his name? It doesn't stand for "reasoned", "right" (as in "correct") or "responsible". I'll leave it to others to determine what it means.
Rodent?
Reptiloid?
I thought the people of New Hampshire had more sense than they apparently do.
Reject, Retarded, Rapscallion, Rogue, or Rasputin?
it was much cuter than any rethuglican :-0
CRUDD
That is their world. I used to work around wingnuts and had to endure hearing their conversations. That paragraph is their paradigm.
That is their world. I used to work around wingnuts and had to endure hearing their conversations. That paragraph is their paradigm.
Sorry for the double post
R is for Robber Baron
ideas regarding health care. After all, the great strides we took toward universal health insurance when they ran the country for eight years shows that they know a lot about this issue and are serious about getting it done.
I wish people would follow up and list where they get their facts.
we really don't want to get to close to where this turd got his numbers. They live in some other universe. Washington D.C. needs an enema!
20% of the uninsured make $75000 or more. That is not 20 million. Maybe Gregg needs to learn to read.
http://www.factcheck.org/politics/the_real_un...
Have any of these interviewers (that would be YOU in this case, Wallace) ever thought to ask Gregg just where he comes up with his statisitcs that 20 Million Young People are Making $75,000+ and are frivilously spending it away on things other than healthcare?
Why are they allowed to toss around stats without being made to disclose the stats' origins?
They hope people will take their "facts" at face value and not bother to look them up. In other words they hope we'll be lazy and just parrot their words to our family and friends.
simply don't pass the smell test.
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http://gregg.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fuse...
Apparently he is convinced there are above median people who are young not taking advantage of health care. Still he has not provided any stats on this.
is totally owned. They make me sick.
They don't need no stinkin' facts!
Sen. Judd Gregg,
You got a bunch of wedgies in school. didn’t you? You were that kid that EVERYONE hated because he would argue without any facts and would blather on anyway, Come on, you know you where -weren’t you?
I hear a lot of republicans say we have the best health care system in the world. On what do they base that?
Their healthcare and not yours? With most of these "elected" lifers being rich, I'm sure they DO have the best healthcare in the world. Just not you.
a system that only provides quality care for the wealthiest and passes part of that cost on to the poor who get substandard or no care IS the "best" system.
this bullshit on television without questioning them, my American friends. First of all, I'd really seriously love to find these people (young or old) that are making 75000/year right now. Unless the US truly is the rewarding land of mucho cashola, I find that number extremely hard to believe. I've worked in my industry for 3 decades, am in management, and make nowhere near that. If the income number is correct, I'm moving to the US pronto!
Secondly, the government does not get between you and your doctor in Canada. YOU deal with YOUR doctor, who then bills the government's agency responsible. That's it. If the doctor tries to screw the system, there are things in place to weed out that type of fraud.
Don't let these lying assholes repeat these lies over and over America. Matters not what party they pretend to represent. In the end, they are representing Insurance companies, and not you. Vote the bastards out!!
..are terrified that anything would interrupt the already accomplished takeover of healthcare in this country by insurance racketeering bureaucrats. You know, the ones who already ration our health care and get between us and our doctors. It might diminish the income they make from accepting bribes and peddling influence.
You state the facts succinctly. However, I am now very close to pulling the plug here, and saying buh bye.... my exit strategy is continuing to gel. I may be able to do it and stay in the Pacific Northwest......... If the average 'merkin is so dumb as to buy the propaganda being spewed at 50,000 gallons per second, well.... that does speak volumes.
if you look at the senator's and congress critters resumes, what have any of the bastards done for the average citizen? What have they been waiting for? What did Joe Biden do with his umpteen years in government? Kennedy? Dodd? I say these names because I have very little interest in the Rethug party and know few of them by name, but they are basically the same or much worse. What have they done in the YEARS they have been in office? Any of them? Very little. But Americans keep re-electing them. Why is that? I don't get it. Even Dem faithful are sick and tired of people like Pelosi and Reid using excuse after excuse, but how long have they been in Washington? Who keeps electing them?
On a side note, as someone who grew up in a border town, we used to marvel at how cheap things were in America. We used to cross over for shopping all the time, even with our weak Canadian dollar it was still cheaper. And that was in the day of strong unions!!
Not no more. Last time I was there I was shocked at the prices. They were higher than in Canada. What happened?
So what have any of these guys/gals done for you. (Ans: nothing.)
I wish that Sen. Gregg would come to my neighborhood and say that we're all making $75,000/year and should stop complaining.
What a maroon.
I looked this up on Google, and what I found is...
1. It's about 8 million or so people whose incomes go from $50,000-$75,000. It's about another 8 or 9 million people whose incomes are $75,000 and above. The other Judd Gregg link you posted is one where he actually acknowledges that he's lumping the two groups together...whereas this clip has him taking the overall figure and putting it above $75,000.
2. Factcheck.org has the best breakdown AND analysis of all these figures that I could find.
Hope that helps.
indicates that the 75,000 dollar earners were without health insurance.
"About 9.1 million of the uninsured have household incomes greater than $75,000"
Though I'm not sure if Mr. Gregg was claiming that individuals were making that kind of money, or overall households. If he meant individuals, he's grossly wrong.
20,000,000 of those folks. That would indicate individuals.
20,000,000 of those folks. That would indicate individuals.
I can see where it could be difficult under our current system. Say a married couple, with at least one having a college education, lives in a large metro area. Both together earn 75k, but are paying at least some student loans, high costs for an average rental and higher utilities, food, and miscellaneous costs. If neither job offers healthcare as a benefit (or at least covers a good portion of the costs) I can't see how this couple could afford to pay for insurance. Throw a kid or two in there and you have a family who is living from paycheck to paycheck.
Not only does Mr. Gregg need to check his facts, he also needs a healthy dose of reality slapped into his pointy head.
No doubt. the total of a two-income household. Not sole breadwinners.
(He probably didn't think that bit-of-information was important.)
It's amazing to me that these people are so worried about where the money will come from to pay for healthcare reform. Funny, they couldn't fling money fast enough at the finance sector and still don't know where it went. Same thing with a war in a country that was no threat to us.
I don't see this point of view much in the news media. They'll give these shills plenty of face time, hand-wringing over how to pay for this, yet they'll conveniently forget how the Bush administration got us in hock around the world to finance a war that wasn't necessary. Strange times we live in.
bush started his war for one thing, to make billions for his doners. just how much have the tax payers had to shell out for 2 wars in the last 7 years WE will Never know. a good guess? about 1.4 trillion. Then they "had" to help walstreet,WTF. Help the middel class or the poor. go F yourself....dick=the people of America will never stand up to the congress or the CO's, as long as we give them wal-mart and american idel.
Education? Housing? Healthcare? Go F*** Yourself!
Picking a fight with a country that didn't attack us? Let's Party!
Single payer systems cost approx 10% of GDP. The current U.S. system costs 15-16% of GDP. Costs drop 5%, that savings go to consumers, everyone is covered, everyone has access to *preventive* health care.
And private insurers still exists in Canada -- dental, drugs, eye, etc. They just don't make the obscene profits their U.S. counterparts do nor do they get away with murdering people for the sake of Greed.
Good Luck My Friends!
- Marvin, A Canadian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojxw_f_USSw&fe...
Conservatives never want to acknowledge the existence of the working poor. At the same time conservatives do everything they can to help corporate America, and the wealthy exploit the working poor. Fucking pricks like Sen Judd Gregg should be forced to work 40 hours a week behind the counter at a retail job that pays poverty wages.
I would consider writing Sen Jack Ass to explain to him what life is like for the working poor, only he probably wouldn't believe me. Because people like him only believe what they want to believe.
If you did, he would not be able to understand you. These people don't even know where the f'ing gas cap is on their car. Sort of like Mel Brooks Louis the XIV, in History of the World, point of view, if you have seen that..
Bernnaise!
These guys are all about their party and to hell with people.....until voting day.
This morning Mika, of Morning Joe infamy, was expressing her concern that this bill was being pushed forward too swiftly. She forgot to tell us when she became so qualified in such matters. I doubt the President gives a good shit about what she or any of the gang of talking heads think.
That you can be a Republican Senator and also be as dumb as a rock... or as treacherous as a serial killer. There's little room for a middle ground when Gregg makes such outrageous statements. Maybe it's the good Senator who ought to team up with Palin in the next general election campaign. They'd make great copy together.
If this asshole had our insurance, They might want better insurance. They want to protect there buds in the insurance rip-off. Cant get big money for your campaine if they dont kiss there ass. Only untill the American people stand up will we get any kind of change. Even if you have good? health insurance, all you need is ONE bad shit happen and you are on your way to the poor house. Hell, my insurance sucks. Had to go to hospital and when the insurance was finished with there we don't pay that,we dont pay that, and we don't pay that. I had a bill that was fucked-up. Dr bill=$852.00, Hospital bill$1478.00, and the guy who put me to sleepeven got into it for $652. total insurance did not pay=#2,982.00 WTF. this on top of the monthley $153 and the co-pay bullshit. And we have good insurance????
the flags went up immediately, when he stated the 75000/year line. A quick search of the US federal job bank, revealed that if I lived in most places in the US, doing the exact same thing as I do here, I would make on average less than 60% of what I earn here in Ontario. PLUS, my taxes cover my healthcare. I don't need to fight with insurance corporations over anything except my car and house insurance. So once again, Bullshit there senator moron.
Always wondered where all the money came from for Americans when they cite these massive monthly insurance bills. Seems to me, a majority of it is bullshit, and there are far more than the 50 million uninsured that keeps getting repeated ad nauseum in the media. Kick these lifers asses to the curb America!!! All of them. From Dems to Rethuglicans. Kick 'em out! We keep hearing how so and so is fighting for healthcare, or some item of importance, yet after decades what has this or any senator produced? NOTHING. Kick them the hell out!
Gregg neglected to mention that this figure has an accuracy tolerance of +/- 20,000,000.
well I got about a dozen nieces + nephews who would really like to know where those $75,000/year jobs are. Heck, most of them would settle for a lot less, they would just like to have a job.
These rich people, they live in another reality, another world. I just finished my Master's Degree in Teacher Education and if I COULD find a job I'd made about $36K a year, but there aren't any jobs right now. So I'm screwed. When school starts back I'll probably be stuck substitute teaching which I could have done without the one year unpaid internship and the $60K in student loan debt. I currently receive free health care because I have no income and I have a 6 year old, but I'll probably lose those benefits when I start working for substitute teacher pay which is about $65 a day. The thing that bothers me the most is how I've sacrificed for the last 4 years and have done without so I could educate myself and make a better life for my son, and now I feel that I've been screwed completely as now I'm armed and ready for a career and there are no opportunities. It stinks that there is no one out there with power that is fighting for me at all or people like me. They are all fighting for their corporate masters. I have contemplated writing a letter to Obama, but then I wake up and realize that he wouldn't read it nor give a crap either. There has to be something that we can do other than eat our brains with worry and express our frustrations on the internet. What can I do to take my country back?
By drawing our attention to these whackjob Rethug senators and representatives, our attention is being diverted from fake Democrats that are torpedoing universal health care.
Push harder from our side.
When we keep voting in millionare rich brats who haven't a clue as to what we go through to survive today. Why do we keep voting in millinare babies who just cannot fathom what Main Street is really like? US Govt....the best that money can buy!
"Why do we keep voting in millinare babies who just cannot fathom what Main Street is really like?"
Because we all are a bunch of clueless rubes that are one step away from banging our heads on walls and drooling on ourselves?
Only answer I can come up with.
Because we allow the boob tube to be the source of most of the information from which base our decisions?
I can assure you that I'm spending money on things like "bills" and "rent". I don't spend money on medical care because I am lucky enough to have a great insurance plan.
I used to be in low paying jobs (>$30K) where I HAD no insurance. Once I was working over 40 hours a week (this was shortly after I graduated), and my work had no health insurance plan. I went to the docotor once for a checkup and had the mistake of having my blood drawn. I got a bill in the mail the next month for over $2000.00. That's not an easy sum to come by when you're making less than $500 a paycheck.
That way it will spend less time up your a$$
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I'm pretty progressive, and I agree with many of your views John. But you've got a few screws loose when it comes to illegal immigration.
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I've been working in the California construction industry much of my life and I KNOW what's going on. You Mr. blogger DO NOT!
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These USED to be good paying jobs for skilled Americans; not any more.
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California & US governments allow construction corporations to get filthy stinking rich on the wet backs of illegal immigrants, while US citizens working in the construction industry must make huge sacrifices in their own standards of living in order to compete against illegal workers living 15 people in a single family residence.
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Should we all just abandon these honorable professions because someone else can do them cheaper? Or should we all start renting out all our extra bedrooms and garages so we can compete?
Construction jobs used to be a part of the economy that provided well paying jobs. Now not so much.
Toll Brothers gets 5 million for a house built with $10.00 to 15.00 an hour labor.
The only decent construction jobs left are the ones that are MANDATED to have licenses. You know, plumbers, electricians, surveyors etc.
All others are being replaced by low wage immigrants. Many of them illegal.
Ha. I'm almost 28 and I wish I was making that much a year. I'm just lucky my job provides pretty good health and dental coverage. I went for years without, and it sucked.
Ha. I'm almost 28 and I wish I was making that much a year. I'm just lucky my job provides pretty good health and dental coverage. I went for years without, and it sucked.
I can assure you that I'm spending money on things like "bills" and "rent". I don't spend money on medical care because I am lucky enough to have a great insurance plan.
I used to be in low paying jobs (>$30K) where I HAD no insurance. Once I was working over 40 hours a week (this was shortly after I graduated), and my work had no health insurance plan. I went to the doctor once for a checkup and had the mistake of having my blood drawn. I got a bill in the mail the next month for over $2000.00. That's not an easy sum to come by when you're making less than $500 a paycheck.
what is your profession and how young are you? Do not believe for a millisecond that a young person is making that much cash, when people working their entire lives are not. Unless you are in the financial scamming industry or government, your wage is probably closer to the 30 grand level than 75 grand level. If it isn't, then I'd like the name of your company so I can apply for your job.
Are you "concerned" today or what?
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I am 29 years old and I am a clinical research associate for a CRO. When I started with the company I work at I was making $33K. I got my promotion to CRA (entry level) and my salary jumped to $45K. My company is a good one and we get raises annually. I went from $45K, got a promotion to CRA I and salary went to $54K. A year later got a promotion to CRA2 and salary went to $66K, year went by and now it is at $77K. I've been working with this company for about 4 years now. If you have a 4 year BS in the life sciences or nursing and don't mind travel, then I can refer you if you are interested. We've recently had layoffs though as the economy is still very tight. I should have gotten a promotion this year, but they have a freeze on promotions for the most part as well. We'll see how things are this next quarter.
Hey Senator Fascist Asshole, how much do you spend on health insurance after your $200,000 a year perk loaded salary that you reiceve from us taxpayers, so that you can make millions on the side from lobbyists (bribery) screwing the same folks who have entrusted you with their well being?
Filthy stinking worhtless POS republican bastard!
Spewed daily is nauseating. How clueless are you when you don't know that 75,000 a year jobs come with health insurance?
How many fucking 75,000 a year jobs come with no benefits?
Then when the 75,000 worker comes down with a chronic or life threatening illness, the policy will be denied.
Does Gregg think that we don't have "da Google"? From the latest census numbers - The proportion of people not covered by health insurance is lower among people with higher income. In 2007, 24.5 percent of people in households with annual incomes of less than $25,000 had no health insurance coverage. Uninsured rates decreased for each consecutive household income group to 21.1 percent for households with incomes of $25,000 to $49,999, 14.5 percent for households with incomes of $50,000 to $74,999, and 7.8 percent for households with incomes of $75,000 or more. (http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf)
So, for those who don't understand math (Republicans) - 7.8 percent of 46 million = 3.5 million Americans. NOT 20 million.
Because my in debt, broke as hell because of law school, 25 year old ass ain't one of these alleged 20 million young people spending 70 grand on something other than health care. And these people sure as hell ain't any of my friends, relatives or classmates either.
Speaking of health care the other week I had to go back and ask my parents for money since it came down to food or antibiotics I needed. This guy and other people just like him can take what ever he has to say, shine it up real nice, then turn it side ways and stick it straight up his candy ass.
I got no debts, but thanks to the suckonomy, I'll be lucky if I make enough money to total ten grand this year. I'm not sure where the fuck he thinks we're that well off, given that the capitalist equivalent of affirmative action has forced qualified people to lose their jobs, simply because they don't want to work for slave wages.
LOL let the young people who make 75K a year do whatever they want with their hard earned money (pay off student debts, invest in a home, raise a family)
Wouln't a pro-family GOP want young people to invest in making new families and buying homes insted of giving their money away to HMOs?
If I was pro-family, I would be pro-UHC, makes sense.
Jesus would be pro-UHC as well
This is the same argument made by several right-wing Republicans in my home state (Wyoming) this past spring when the Legislature was discussing expanding SCHIP.
The right-wing Republicans would say the state should't expand SCHIP to include the children of people who were not insuring their kids so they could buy motorboats and motorcycles.
I never thought anybody could be so stupid and so mean as to say something like that, but they did.
republicanism is a mental illness!
WHATEVER THE HELL was Obama thinking?
earn $75,000 a year or more (that's a total of 39 million Americans earning that much). It is unlikely that 20 million, more than half of that group, are young. There certainly aren't 20 million ball players or entertainers and I'm not sure what else you can do to make that much while you're still young, unless it's being a lawyer or some such (which would obviously be a job that comes with health insurance).
Of cours, if half the richest 13% of Americans can't get insurance, we goddamn well NEED single payer.
After the Dems got a majority in 2006, they should have passed a law requiring everyone to pay the war costs, in full, in "one easy payment". Once people got the bill, they'd tear Washington apart, stone by stone.
Instead you got non-stop American Idol and Britney's tawt, and your kids will be born owing money.
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