Joe Biden comes out swinging: McCain "angry man lurching from one position to another"
By SilentPatriot Wednesday Oct 08, 2008 4:00pm
Senator Biden took to the stage today in Tampa, Florida to defend his running mate from John McCain's pathetic character assault. Reminding voters that McCain has permitted his running mate to raise the most vile of innuendos and that he's hired the same people who personally destroyed him in 2000, Biden knocks it out of the park.
"Last week I had a debate with Governor Palin. Well, at least I think it was a debate. And last night Senator Obama had his second with John McCain. I know I'm prejudiced abut my ticket, but if this were a best of five series, it would be over.
We want a leader, an optimist. Not an angry man lurching from one position to another.
When you vote with George Bush 90% of the time, you're best hope is attacking your opponent 100% of the time."
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It's about time. Where's HE been? Palin wails away for what, five days straight, without a peep from Biden? A lot of help he is.
At this point, Obama and Biden hardly even need to respond to the drivel emanating from Palin's skanky maw. Nobody is listening to her except the rapidly decreasing fringe nutbox base of the GOP.
Right! Now!
Obama/Biden '08
"Palin's skanky maw." I've tried and failed to come up with a description that accurate. She's also a skanky ma.
He had said he would take the weekend off do to his wife's mothers illness. She passed away-and the funeral was held.
My dear brothers and sisters... it takes a lot more class and effort to let the Reichwingers say what they will. It is pointless to get all worked up about nothing. I felt uncomfortable everytime Obama felt the need to correct McCain last night. It's completely unneccesary in many ways because McCain is being seen for what he is.
Just 27 more days and you will see... Obama is going to win. Not by the landslide he should win by but he will win. He is the best choice for our country now but only time will tell just what the Obama Legacy will be. I think he will become known for his diplomacy and for how he handles domestic issues. And hopefully he can do something about shutting down that big blowhard, loudmouth, s.o.b., Rush Limberger.
has been mourning the loss of his mother-in-law with his wife and family and attending her funeral...
i think we can give the guy a couple days to grieve.
he's back out now and I'm seeing him tomorrow in Missouri!
... bereft of any decency or respect or protocol, continued to attack him anyway.
A skank, indeed.
He was mourning his mother in law's passing....
He's been with his family. His mother in law passed away.
His mother-in-law died.
Stupid!
He's been at his mother-in-law's funeral.
Dolt.
There has been a death in his family. His wife's mother. I think he needed to be with her. The difference between a Democrat and Republican.
Sarah Palin showed her ass by not being respectful of that fact and holding her missiles until he returned to the campaign trail. Give Biden a break - from all accounts, he came back and smoked her ass.
It's about time Biden started saying things like this, and at least at the Democratic rallies, no one is threatening violence, as an angry mob gets fed red meat and red herrings at the GOP rallies.
It just wasn't getting the airtime on the MSM that the GOP 2 minutes hate fests were getting. I am lovin' me some Joe Biden lately. I have this nagging feeling that if some staffer or speech writer of his hadn't plagarized a few lines years ago, he might have been the Dem nominee in '04 and won.
In the same way that 'swift-boating' has become the equivalent term to political slander, in the future, a McCain-style campaign' will become the term to use when a candidate's sole focus is to assassinate the character of their opponent.
That is his legacy.
I have just posted a fairly comprehensive piece on McCain's campaign tactics, and I was kind enough to let Mr. McCain have the last word, via video. It was a comment that he made 8 years ago...one that he will come to regret.
http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/10/m...
Way OT, but a very interesting little story about government corruption. Maybe not so OT... .
You go, Joe!
Sorry:
http://openleft.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=5...
The only daylight McCain has now is the low road.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R81tHhj3oqo
as has been noted, biden has been attending to family matters the last few days. it is good to see him out swinging again - which he has been doing for weeks, the media has just been largely ignoring him in favor of the 24/7 palin circus.
Here, here ... Biden has been great! But media... Hello? Where you at?
Actually, I'm pretty sure it was a rapid-fire, join press conference. But, whatever.
But, Joe, haven't you heard? You guys can't win. God wants InSane/Pain.
And they say Obama has a Messiah complex?
**shudder**
U.S. National Debt:
$10 trillion
The "We Are Broke" clock -- +$1 trillion and ticking -- down, down, down.
...down, down, down --
McCain, Obama and Biden voted for the bailout.
How can people overlook this!?
Blows my mind that anyone would vote for either candidate.
will be our next president. That's a reality. Now, you can act like the Virgin Queen and hold out for the "right" one to come along. That's your choice. Most of us have to deal with the here and now.
Let me see if I can explain what I understand to be the reasons for the bailout. Suppose you want to buy a car, or a big-screen tv, or some furniture. Can you plop down the full price right now? Well, if you can, good for you, but most of us can't. We need credit. Installment terms, etc. Lending institutions are holding so many bad investments from the real estate sector (lenders encouraged people to buy overpriced homes with adjustable rate mortgages because they thought the value of homes was going to continue to rise. It didn't. It went down instead. Interest rates on the adjustable rate mortgages adjusted and people were no longer able to afford the home, but couldn't sell it for what they paid for it. This was and is the genesis of the problem.)
that they are scared to death to give credit to anyone including businesses and other banks. Good luck getting credit to buy that car, or that tv, or that furniture. Unless you credit score is somewhere in the stratosphere, you're not getting that loan or those installment payments. If you don't buy, the retailers, wholesalers, and manufacturers don't sell. They lose money, they lay-off workers, people don't have enough money to get by, their credit ratings suffer, lather, rinse, repeat. That's why the bailout had to be done. The banks that make loans to other banks and businesses had to be assured that they were not going to get stuck with all the bad paper (mostly mortgages) they were carrying. Even with the bailout, it's going to take months before lenders are going to be willing to grant credit. Does the bailout stink? Absolutely. Did it have to be done? Probably.
I really liked Biden's final comment in this clip. He mentions the McCain camp's sleazy attacks that seek to make Ayers an issue, and Biden points out that none of the people in that town hall debate had the slightest compulsion to raise the topic.
"This election is about you (the public who's hurting) than it is about us (the politicians)."
McInsane and Phalin. They belong together. Both are the ill-begotten spawns of the Grand OLD Party. Old people with long ago OLD, worn-out, fatally flawed ideas.
By the way...
"That One"/Biden '08!
to tomorrow so we can get started on the repairs?
That was great... It'll be good to have some real leaders in power again. Just the thought of having to listen to rigid old McCain for the next 4 years is depressing to say the least. This election is a litmus test for the greatness of America and it's looking more and more optimistic as we get closer to Election Day.
I just love it when Biden gets all fired up like that. Right on, Joe!
I came home tonight to find five of my neighbors had planted their Mc Cain/Palin signs in their front yards. They must be giving the damn things away because all but one of them can barely afford them...They are all rabid Republicans; they had had Bush signs in 2000 and 2004. My Obama sign has been on my lawn since June...and I wondered, why now? Why at all...
One of them is struggling and has been for a while...one lives on inheritance...two are tied into the drug industry, and two had had a "mortgage brokerage business"...no doubt sub-prime...thriving, now shut down... yet now have sold their toys...
Lemmings, all..."Christians" who do not look to help their brothers, but want to do what their self-serving "pastors" tell them...or their master, the almighty dollar...I don't know. I do know I'll never party with them again...
So sad...so sad, indeed..."you can't see the forest for the trees"...
You must live two streets over from Me!
i'd like to see obama and biden together in pennsylvania,ohio and florida. joe needs to call mcLiar and falin
on their bullshxt.
Senator Biden, may I call you Joe? Say it's so Joe. Say it often.
remind me of the gang surrounding the little Cuban boy, Ilian, you know, the ones who would not let him be reunited with his dad.
They remind me of the ones who go to funerals of gays and lesbians and tell the families they will rot in hell.
They remind me of people who stood by and did nothing while high school kids were hosed down by the Bull Conners in the south.
They show up at every misfortune that besets humanity and turn it into a circus.
Go Joe, can't say that enough times!
There are days when I wish Biden was still a choice for president.
RHM
My condolences to Joe and his family for their recent loss. It's good to see him back on the trail showing McCain and Palin what a true patriot looks and sounds like. We love ya, Joe - give 'em hell!
Having visions of an elderly Palin, rocking back in forth a creaking chair in a dusty room... mumbling under her breath over and over...
"...say it ain't so, Joe... say it aint so, Joe..."
Say it's so, Joe! God, I just wish when she asked him if she could call him Joe, he said, "Yeah. Call me Joe Sixpack."
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Wed, 10/08/2008 - 17:50 — HereticHulk (not verified)
McCain, Obama and Biden voted for the bailout.
How can people overlook this!?
Blows my mind that anyone would vote for either candidate.
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Can you imagine if they hadn't voted for it. The media would have had a feeding frenzy.
Nobody votes. So wattyaget? More Bush.
LOL! Nicely framed snark on McCain on several levels, knowhatI'msayin'?
OH darn it!
2+2=4 already!
:)
That equation keeps most of the trolls out......
Because they can't be troubled to take the extra step? I can actually imagine that, the noisome little buggers.
Or they can't do the math? I can REALLY imagine that! Larf!
Ahhh, whatevah! I can add a "4" to each post. Small price to pay for being able to visit such a stellar site.
If you register (and become "verified") you won't have to do any math, and you get the perk of seeing a red "NEW" added to new comments. And you can edit your own posts after they're posted.
yeah, most are too stupid to get it right... or, they are so caught up in the Orwellian solipsism of 2+2=5 that they just can't accept the liberal bias of reality. In either case, to quote a great poet, "the times they are a-changin'"....
On topic, Joe is a helluva good VP choice. Solid credentials, a good "blue collar" background, appeals to the midwestern "socially conservative" dems... and I love the fact that, by and large, he's been an outspoken and relatively honest public servant who calls bullshit when he sees it and shows the capacity to see multiple sides to complex issues.
I think Obama chose well, especially given his desire that a running mate offer a kind of "devil's advocate" challenge to his course of action. I've always thought the greatest flaw of neocons and other weak movements/leaders is the sycophancy rampant throughout their ranks. I like that Barry can see the value of having a dynamic thinker who might disagree with you from time to time, but is still smart enough to know when to shut up and advance the cause forward.
A good combo, a good ticket, and I wouldn't mind seeing Biden and Barry start campaigning a bit more together in some of those purple states and battleground districts that are going to make the difference. Where Palin is the lipstick on Oinker McCain, I think Biden is more like the body blows and mean hooks to compliment Barry's jabs and cool-headed ring presence.
I like the new site. Nice clean look and fewer trolls.
I also notice that there are still a lot of regulars who are 'not verified'. It's easy to do, people! Signing in 'enhances the experience'.
I like the comment bar at the bottom left and the red flags for new posts. Well done, C&L.
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Then how in the world will he be able to meet and negotiate with other world leaders -- presumably some that he will not agree with? Will he avoid their handshake? Push his wife in front of him to shake his/her hand?
Not fit to be president.
He plans to send Miss Sarah to just wink and nod at them!! Yew betcha.
Can you hear that, the sound of real people, real supporters.
I watched Biden quite a bit over the years on here, for the most part he has said the right things. Let's just hope the right thing starts happening after this election.
Reversal of the Patriot act, federal agents get called back out of Canada, and pro-pot states in America, the rule of law being re-established......... I'm drowsy sorry.
Many apologies for my opening comment. I completely missed the death of Sen. Biden's mother-in-law. Now I'll just go slouch off someplace and feel really dumb...
I wouldn't worry about the fact that you missed something considered "minor" by the 24/7 news cycle. Plus, if anything, it shows how important his role is and how much, even if the MSM ignores him, we miss him out there on the stump doing his thing.
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Lets see... there are already people shouting out chants of "kill him" and "terrorist" at the McCain/Palin rallies. Before this is all over in 4 weeks, what will transfer from the shouting to the Mccain Podium?
A. Flatt out calling Obama a Terrorist?
B. Flatt out calling Obama a Muslum Extremenst?
C. Flatt out saying that the world would be better off with-out him?
D. All of the above?
I wish this was a joke, but I could see it being D in a last fit of desperation.
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As a registered Independent voter, this is one of the reasons that I decided to vote for Obama. We all agreed it was a great thing that our nation has finally matured to the point where a black person could be nominated to run for the highest office in the land. But, most of us also know that there are still a lot of racists and other assorted ugly people among the population. I am frankly surprised that we didn't hear about this kind of crap going on earlier in the campaign.
But, I digress. I like Obama because he's intelligent, articulate, accomplished, knowledgable, compassionate, thoughtful, seems to have good judgment, has a calm demeanor, etc. And, I also recognize that he's a politician and that he's very ambitious.
While I've been watching and listening to him over the past several months, I've been thinking about how very COURAGEOUS he is. Every day, as an "uppity" black man in America, he goes out into huge crowds, stands virtually naked in front of thousands, knowing full well that among them could lurk crazy racists who would like nothing better than to ........ And, even when he becomes President, he (and his family) will continue to face inordinate danger, mainly because of the color of their skin.
Yet he still goes out there every day because he truly believes he can make a difference for all Americans. His Courage to be the first, to stand up and say it's time and I'm willing to take on the risk and this personal challenge, really persuaded me that He's the Man.
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way, WAY too harsh. I don't like her either, but jeez....
to wish that on anyone.
Way to go Joe -- absolutely beautiful!
The "pit bull" analogy was over the top for me -- I don't like the idea that something will be attacked just because the idiot holding the leash says so.
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Bravo Joe Biden. Finally someone hitting back hard against this dip shit Palin. She has gotten a free ride for far too long. The McCain campaign and the media has set up this invisible fence around Palin that any comment, insult, criticism and truth about her is deemed sexist. No one really exposes Palin for the incompetent fraud she is in fear of being exposed to the make believe wrath of the republicans. Every time we don’t expose Palin for the true bag of shit she is we give undo credibility to her incoherent political worth
I think she's getting it, with both barrels, all over the Web. Most thinking people are turned right off by these attacks she spews. Hell, even at Fox news there is dissent.
True Conservatives value their reputation. The GOP, not so much.
I am always uplifted by positive thinking and positive messages. People want a positive message, after 8 years of fear and threats, even if all the promises can't be kept. Attacks like Palin/McAngry--- not so much. Every time she opens her skanky maw, it's another nail in their campaign coffin. That cheap *wink* hooker needs to go back to Alaska and take her garbage with her.
If you go to YouTube today, all the top political videos are negative Palin/McCAngry ones, and the comments don't support them. (Except the hillbillie base spewing racist garbage.)
It's OK to trash them in here, at our "liberal circle jerk", which I proudly ascribe to. C&L keeps us all sane. Keep up the good work!!!
Biden is just wonderful. A good man. Obama did great in the debate. I just love you spine-filled ballsy Dem's down there. Go Go Go
Keepin' it simple. "It's About You".
"It's about you."
I love hearing that man speak. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family in this difficult time. Him and "That One" are always showing class while Grampa and YouBetcha swing at the wind.
Common/Sense '08
sorry sarah... you've been OWNED
sorry johnBoy... you're ass has been kicked
IN A FAIR FIGHT, you all had a chance... but STOOPID YOU ! ! !
you dropped the straight talk express... and sarah never had one...
YOU SET THE RULES...
you thought OBAMA and the DEMS would do their usual run-for-cover...
SORRY....
OBAMA WAS TAUGHT BY THE BEST.. HILLARY.. HOW TO FIGHT.. HOW TO PREPARE
all you had was Karl Rove and some SwiftBoat sinkers
"OBAMA WAS TAUGHT BY THE BEST.. HILLARY.. HOW TO FIGHT.. HOW TO PREPARE"
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You're *exactly* right. While pundits and shortsighted Obama supporters bemoaned Hillary's fight to the death, it was clear what the prolonged party battle did for Barry: it made him continue to grow, continue to reach out, and to continue to fight back and do his best to both counterpunch and appear "above the fray" at the same time.
One of the best baptisms by fire he could ever have had. Though it's clearly not what she intended, next to Obama, I think Hillary's done more to prepare Barry for the fight of his life than any of us could've seen coming.
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