Must vote out any Dem that sucks Reslug dick.

Doesn't that mean the Dem's would have to vote in favor of keeping Bush's tax cuts in place?

I'm ashamed to be a democrat.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

Just wait till they get to Social Security!!

Keep them in office! VOTE DEMOCRATIC! Protect the status quo!!

What will happen if the "conservadems" balk is that more people with higher incomes will pay more taxes.

Those four turds should just switch parties. They are more trouble than they are worth.

How much money did these clods get from the DLC, DSCC, and the Democratic Party?

Time for a refund.

This is called political cover. The Blue Dogs will demand the Democrats extend tax cuts for the wealthy, and then all the other corporate sell-outs (Obama first among them) will put up their hands and say, "oh well! I guess we've gotta compromise!".

Gibbs thinks we need drugs. Emmanuel thinks we're "fuckin' retards". Obama continues Bushian policies. And our elected Dem majority can't get its act together for any meaningful legislation.

Now I know why a lot of people don't get caught up in politics.

"Must Democrats fall into the fetal position every time the GOP makes a feint?"

This statement assumes the Democrats actually want to enact different policies, but are prevented from doing so. I see no evidence for this assumption. Besides, what possible difference could it make? We can only assess politicians by the policies they enact. We certainly cannot assess them by policies they might be thinking about while enacting policies that harm our interests.

keeps ignoring the 1000 rw radio stations that dominate red states and intimidate threaten and enable the blue dogs. in most of those states the limbaughs and hannitys have a huge constituency screaming into phones to demonstrate their love of billionaires. the red state dems have to weigh that loud force as part of their state constituency. it'a going to stay that way until americans recognize those stations as the power centers of the GOP and picket them and complain to their local sponsors.

If the Democrats do nothing, the tax rates increase automatically because the Republicans passed a law that requires the rates to increase automatically. What we have is a Republican tax increase unless the Democrats do something to prevent it.

The Democrats should frame what they're doing as an effort to stop the Republican tax increase while being concerned about the deficit by keeping the tax cuts for everybody but the richest few percent.

Let the Republicans fillibuster that.

mixing up the statements from Gibbs and Rahm. Rahm did say that some Dems were retards but, he was talking about those Dems who wanted to run ads against Dems. Oddly, he hasn't commented on those Dems who are running ads against Pelosi and Obama. The Drug testing statement was aimed at the Firebaggers, whose chief was on the Dylan Ratigan show spouting her usual bullshit. That said, let's try to at least stay on topic. I too have many complaints about some of the choices of this administration. Though, I'm never going to be stupid enough to vote Republican and this story should also serve as a warning to blue dogs who vote with them. You need look no further than that bitch Blanche Lincoln's poll numbers. She's going to get her ass crushed in November and I can't wait. We could pick up Kentucky and New Hampshire to cancel out her ass whupping!

Ok...be back in a few minutes. I'm drafting a harshly worded letter to the lame duck lavatory attendant and the chambermaid.

with the rich getting it vs no tax cuts at all, I'm all too happy to opt for no tax cuts at all.

There's about 8 Senate Democrats I would love to meet up with in a dark alley.

There's I don't know how many Republicans I would do the same.....probably all of 'em.

I love how this site thinks the only solution is raising taxes. There's nothing wrong with people keeping the money they earn.

Here's a thought...try cutting spending.

I know a lot of people who were hit hard by the economic crash. I had to endure a pay cut and a reduction in benefits.

Do you know what I did? I CUT MY SPENDING!!! I've drastically cut down discretionary spending and I raised my savings amounts.

There's huge wastes of tax payers dollars in our government. Between too much military spending, paying for unnecessary wars, no bid contracts to businesses republicans used to work for, or bailing out republican corruption, we waste soooo much taxpayer money.

Try cutting spending!

Hold the phone. Nobody need these blue dogs' support to raise the taxes on the rich. If nothing is done, their taxes are going to go up. The expiration of the Bush Tax Cuts is already the law of the land. Their taxes are going to go up UNLESS something is done.

There's an obvious solution here: The Democrats need to make extending the tax cuts for each bracket an individual bill in Congress.. First, you make them vote on extending the tax cuts for the lower and middle-class workers. Let's see if any of the Blue Dogs or Republicans have the balls big enough to filibuster a middle-class tax cut. You just make them vote on the extension of each brackets tax cuts individually.

Then, when they scream and yell and try to put forth the last bill, the extension of tax cuts for the richest, you just vote against it because it would make the deficit bigger.

This way, you get to keep the tax cuts for the working and middle-classes and you get to call the "The Obama Tax Cuts" instead of "Extending the Bush Tax Cuts". Democrats look like heroes and the Blue Dogs get neutralized unless they really are so crazy as to filibuster or vote against middle-class tax cuts.

If I can figure this out, and I'm an idiot, why can't the Democrats?

Dems --

Please just do nothing; let all the tax cuts expire.

Anyone with an income should have their taxes increase.

What's a couple of percents to people who have a roof over their heads and food on the table?

Get serious.

So don't give me that "can't raise taxes now because the economy is fragile" argument. We're now paying almost 10% in LA County. And I only wish our utilities had taken such a magnanimous position and given customers a break. But they too have raised prices during a freakin' recession.

This is just another kiss-the-wealthy's ass, suck-up lie. Message to ConservaDems: they're gonna hate you and trash you anyway.

I've had enough of this crap. I have six words for those dems who will vote to extend the cuts. F#ck you, F*ck you, F$ck you!

Dont mean to come of with the strong words, but im tired of it all. The people of America no longer have a voice in this country.

The DINOs are irrelevant. They can kvetch all they want about how unfair it is to let the Bush tax cuts expire for the only winners in the last decade's economy. But those tax cuts were passed with an expiration date, it is a done deal.

The White House and progressives want to pass a middle class tax cut. The DINOs and GOP can't pass a tax cut for the rich on their own. If they wish, the DINOs can join the GOP in threatening a filibuster saying nobody gets a tax cut unless we give almost all of the benefits to the very wealthy. I have a feeling they'd have trouble selling that even to the Tea Party.

Either way progressives win - we get a middle class tax cut and more revenue from letting the cuts for the top brackets lapse, or the GOP and DINOs get the blame for preventing a tax cut for 90% of tax payers because they care less about them than they care about the very rich.

Yep, that's really a great message, ConDems:

If the rich don't get their tax breaks, the middle class shouldn't keep theirs either.

Do you really think that the conserva-dems will be able to rally with their Republican allies to actually get enough votes to pass a further tax reduction for the rich?

Remember! This is not something that has to be voted on. In order to continue the tax cuts, they have to bring forward a NEW bill and get enough votes in both houses of congress to get it passed! In addition, do you really think the the President would not veto such a bill if it came before him?

This is NOT an issue of raising taxes. The tax increase is IN THE LAW due to the way it was written in the first place. They would have to use an entirely NEW bill to keep the current tax reductions in place for ANY income bracket.

Personally, I don't see them having the votes to continue the tax cuts for the upper 2%. And I doubt they have the, uh, intestinal fortitude, to try. What you are hearing now is likely just wishes in order to try to scare the rest of the congress into "just going along" with this very stupid idea.

Everyone here seems to be under the impression that the majority of dems don't want to extend the tax cuts for themselves and their donors the wealthy. I think that most will be quite happy to extend these cuts, they just need the proper cover for doing so - this is where Harry and Nancy will really earn their pay!

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From now on, I resolve to vote only for the Green Party or Socialist candidate whenever possible, including write-in candidates on the ballot. And if such a candidate is not available, I resolve to vote for whichever candidate publicly announces his/her support for (1) legalizing cannabis, (2) ending the War on Drugs, or (3) ending Prohibition 2.0.

This country is without any doubt going to Hades in a pushcart, no matter whether Republicans or Democrats win the power to misgovern in support of their corporate masters. I might just as well get something I want, before I am dead and gone.