Joe Biden Motivates The Base: 'Quit Whining'
Joe Biden tells the base to "quit whining" and get out there and "look at the alternatives. This president has done an incredible job. He's kept his promises."
And last night on Lawrence O'Donnell's new show, he said: "Those who didn't get everything they wanted, it's time to just buck up."
Just buck up.
I'm not sure how we turned out to be the targets, but it looks like we're officially on notice. No more complaining about frivolities!
The people still without jobs? Quit yer whining.
The ones on food stamps? You, too.
Your house is being foreclosed on? What a buncha whiners. Shut yer piehole!
Those of you living in your cars? Be grateful you still have cars!
Sleeping on your friend's couch? Beats a cardboard box, don't it?
You can't afford to see a doctor? You'll be able to do that in 2014. You can't wait just four more years?
And they actually wonder why the base isn't motivated.
Let me put it this way. You know how Joe Biden's grandparents came here from Ireland to find a better life?
I know Americans who are trying to figure out how to move their families back to Ireland.
Oh, and now Obama's getting in on the act. Hey, be sure to let me know how well that worked, okay, Mr. President?
WASHINGTON – Admonishing his own party, President Barack Obama says it would be "inexcusable" and "irresponsible" for unenthusiastic Democratic voters to sit out the midterm elections, warning that the consequences could be a squandered agenda for years.
"People need to shake off this lethargy. People need to buck up," Obama told Rolling Stone in an interview to be published Friday.
The president told Democrats that making change happen is hard and "if people now want to take their ball and go home, that tells me folks weren't serious in the first place."
Or maybe it means they no longer have a ball. Or a home.
That will sure fix things!
I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?
Hold onto whatever money you have. You'll need it for little luxuries...like bread and water.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
I don't try to exert more influence in Washington than the next guy with my big fat money.
I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?
Hit the whiners with the truth! You may not agree with him but he pulls no punches..Teenage acting whiners...are not helpful.
agree with Obama and Biden. Buck up and quit whining. Recognize the obstruction the republicans have been doing and the accomplishments in spite of their obstruction.
a little conviction from the Democratic leaders instead of either their silence or their acquiescence to the bullying of the Rethugs. Leaders inspire, and I'm sorry to say, these Dems are not being leaders.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Majority rule.
I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?
They are blaming their base for their dismal poll numbers. Just what ineffective leaders do.
times the obstructionism seems like a handy excuse not to fight back against the Republicans. Think what the Dems could achieve if they bothered to fight back. But they don't and they won't.
I've never seen change without a fire
I'm also with Biden too. Standing by the ditch and whining that the car isn't getting pulled out of the ditch fast enough is of no help. Instead let's help push or pull the car and see if that doesn't make things move faster. I'm tired of the whining too. I never expected all things to happen the way I want at the drop of a hat. The world and life just doesn't work that way.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
If you eat up every talking point that the white house spits out without actually looking at the facts, then you are no better than the right wing loons that do the same.
FACT: The Democrats claimed that they had to water down legislation to get GOP votes.
FACT: In the end for EVERY key piece of legislation they ended up with ZERO GOP votes
FACT: IT was actually Conserva-Dems that were being appeased when watering down bills. i.e. Blanche LIncoln
FACT: The White House came out in support of Blanche Lincoln against her TRUE Progressive challenger in the Democratic Primary and even tried to "bribe" him out of the race.
FACT:Democrats are putting off a vote on the Bush tax cuts because it is not politically convenient for the same Conserva-Dems that are holding us back from the inside.
Why should we go out and vote for them when they will NEVER have the Balls to vote for us. When they throw us under the bus whenever it is politically convenient? We are all trying to pull the car out of the ditch; We are just pissed that some democrats are pushing the other way, and the White House wants us to turn a blind eye and act like the GOP is the source of all our woes. Then they inexplicably come out in support of the back stabbers. All they care about are their precious seats. FUCK!!! THEM!!!
Facts are the bottom line, important things, except to Rethugs and delusional Dems.
Mostly the republicans though.
Democrats are all we have right now.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
She's impervious to facts.
Don't be impervious to common sense Daddy.
You are obviously dis-illusioned by the Democrats. that's understandable.
you won't be happy at all when the republicans tear you a new one.
Read Bob Woodward's new book excerpts from the Washington post, if you are at all concerned about escalation of war.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I'll even commit heresy here and describe Velma Hart as a whiner. Yes, the lady who stood there on CNBC handing the Repugs and their loyal partners in mainstream media a SLEW of unfounded campaign talking points is a WHINER.
She has a better than decent job and so does her husband (both of which could easily have been ELIMINATED by ongoing Repug stewardship were it not for the Obama/Dem stimulus), she lied about not having a credit card (was that just to make Obama look foolish, too?) and it turns out from her follow up interviews that the "days of hotdogs and beans" concern she was talking about was primarly a whine about her home value (she still HAS one!) and 401K plan money not being back to or ahead of the top pre-Bush crash level by now....20 months after Obama took office on the brink of The Great Republican Depression, Part 2!
Sorry, but even Velma Hart decided to become more of the problem than the solution. Notice we never saw any mainstream media replay of the successful small businessman thanking Obama for rescuring the economy, investing in America and helping his company survive, only Velma?
If you can't get everything you want when you want it, just to sit back and do nothing and I guarantee you won't get anything you want - ever
When your in a ditch and the best tow company in town isn't pulling you out fast enough, letting the worst tow company in town do the job instead might make a statement, but it won't get you out any faster. We all know who the other company is, so don't be surprised when they push you back in the ditch, then send you a bill. Don't be stupid, stick with the good company; sooner or later you'll get out of the ditch. But if whining is more important to you than getting out of the ditch, go ahead and bitch; you'll have lots of time for it while you walk home.
Everyone, please vote so we can live to fight another day
It's not about getting everything that we want. It's about the democrats taking for granted the fact that we don't have any other option. they are essentially saying: So what we spit in your face bitch, who else is gonna love you like we do?
We will always be in a position of choosing between the lesser of two evils, and on of those evils is blatantly using that to their advantage.
. . . the Obama administration needs to tell it to the Right.
The funny thing is that Obama apologists keep trying to acribe the problems with his administration to his advisors, blaming Emanuel, Summers, Geithner, et al. for policy shortcomings. At some point, those on the Left are going to have to accept the fact that Obama isn't--and indeed, never was--the agent of hope and change he made himself out to be, and that he's a Democratic centrist.
those advisors......
I agree- quit whining.
You true believers (the deceived) can do the door-to-door and phone banks in Oct. I'll go to the bar and watch the World Series. At least the baseball players will be making a worthy effort.
The Republicans are giddy to hear that.
They are going to tear you a new one. you can't hide from their wrath in a bar.
I am getting the impression that you feel like you have nothing left to loose...
That's not a place to make sound decisions about anything.
It is a good place to foment paranoid schizophrenia... if you let it.
This is about what is right and what is wrong.
your choices are clear.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Like all of those horrid GOP policies he embraces.
No thank you, I'll pass.
But I will say this; if he ever starts acting like a democrat he might win me back.
Although I am not getting those vibes with his hair-brained scheme to go after our children now - by eliminating summer breaks. That is a is a deal killer for me.
There is no reason whatsoever to make the little tykes get use to toiling for jobs that will never exist by taking away their summers. My kids will never go to school in the summer. I don't care what these idiot politicians have to say through their Department of
EducationCorporate Fascism for Children.Not to mention the fact that this would bankrupt thousands of businesses and communities that make 70-90% of their income through summer tourism. Do morons like him even think about this GOP-DLC bulls**t before they announce it?
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
So you commit the equivalent of suicide?
No way man!
The choice is still simple.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Yes...they hit us because they love us. We need to love them back, like the good wife we are.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
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Obama is perhaps incapable of finding fault with himself. At least the husband in Sleeping with the Enemy apologized to Julia Roberts' character after they "quarrelled".
Now we have to compare what Obama has to deal with to a movie. Keeriste.
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Sometimes blogs like this do get stupid whiny for no reason, Susie needs a dose of pragmatism, sometimes you gotta back your side even if they aren't perfect, but this is reality, not a fantasy world where you can rule 100% from your base.
and obedient for dumb reasons.
This isn't merely a case of ideological difference -- progressives knew they were ideologically different from the president and the congressional Democrats when they pragmatically voted for them in 2006 & 2008.
It's a case of broken promises and betrayal and lies. It's a case of sticking up for BP after they ruined the gulf. It's a case of expanding offshore drilling and proposing the first nuke plant in over 30 years. It's a case of bogus health care "reform" and bogus Wall Street "reform" and bogus Iraq "withdrawal." It's a case of a 40 percent increase in civilian deaths in Afghanistan. It's a case of pussying out on net neutrality and closing Gitmo. It's a case of renewing Blackwater's contract and extending the Patriot Act after promising the exact opposite. It's a case of not only continuing but worsening Bush's policies on spying on American citizens. It's a case of embracing indefinite detention.
I mean, haven't you been paying attention?
I mean, haven't you been paying attention to the republicans?
They want to escalate the wars and start a new one in Iran, and they will do it!
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
The Republicans did it for 8 years with a much smaller base and an opposition that supposedly controlled congress for the last two of those years.
The Democrat strategy of "run to the center and bitch slap your base" isn't going to work. Half the country doesn't vote in presidential elections. Even fewer do in non-presidential elections. Who are these people who stay home? I'll give you a hint: it's not the people on the extremes. Running to the center is doomed to fail because the moderate vote isn't that big.
The Republicans know this. They've known this for 30 years. For the most part, it's a strategy that's served them well. Rev up your base, talk some nice words for the moderates and get 50%+1 to win.
PAGING BILL MAHRER, NEW RULE:
Jellyfish, spineless, pussbag, wimps who were given the power and refused to use it, rolling over and giving away the store in the name of "bipartisanship" that they never achieved don't get to lecture me on "whining" or "bucking up".
If you don't buck up and vote for Democrats, you better not complain when Obama is unable to do anything at all.
You better not complain when they repeal health care and burry it forever.
You better not complain when we invade Iran.
you better not complain when the republicans suck the middle class dry.
I'll be looking forward to a lot more pain but at least there will be a lot less complaining by progressives!
Progressives that don't vote for dems will have nothing left to complain about. Zero - 0.
Moreover, there will be nobody left to complain to!
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Look, the middle class is being sucked dry anyway, whether it's a dem or a repub. So, if I do vote dem, then that means the sucking dry won't happen? So far I see no proof that is the case.
Middle class got a tax break. Already, after less than two years.
There is a ton of things at the links of Obama's accomplishments scattered though this thread.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Here's some of the stuff that has happened in the last few weeks to say the least...
I still recommend voting for progressive candidates in the upcoming election because that is what we need, but screw Joe Biden. And we can not let the neo-con corporate crowd back into power anytime soon. Even though they own the media, military, election counting machines, and everything else. Screw PNAC.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K5a7BoceTg
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Welcome to reality.
The ONLY way to go is toward the light, we're so deep in the hole. New Infrastructure, new medical system, high speed rail, universal internet access, GOOD public education, baseline support for the poor.....the rich have theirs, now let the rest have a piece of the pie!
... which sets up Chinese-style internet censorship.
COICA Fact Sheet
co-sponsored by Pat Leahy (D-Ingsoc)
Thanks. I was going to mention those things. It's Fascist-lite stuff.
You have to vote Democratic, but I think you should bitch even louder, not quit whining. The Dems have a majority in both houses and have the presidency, yet they have moved right of centre in the interest of bipartisanship and other such bullshit. What a fucking JOKE.
The Republicans are right to call them wimps.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGcn15ODltA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I61CZ7Uq67o&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Yesterday, Rachel Maddow hit the ball out of the park on the Democrats lack of National Campaigning. Her first two segments addressed this.
Democrats miss the national forest for the local trees
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/39390...
Rachel Maddow notes that while Republican candidates like Christine O’Donnel and Joe Miller have made their campaigns national, raising money through Fox News and other national outlets, their Democratic counterparts are running small, local races.
Democratic campaign plan overlooks national issues advantage
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/39390...
Lawrence O’Donnell, host of msnbc’s The Last Word talks with Rachel Maddow about how a difference in campaign philosophies is guiding the political parties’ strategies, putting Republicans on the national stage while Democrats campaign locally and avoid the potentially beneficial tax cut debate.
Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.
This whole thing is a staged game between two corporate parties on the same side. The narrative calls for the republicans to gain power now, and the media and democrats are doing all they can to ensure that happens without a hitch. If it wasn't such a staged game the Democrats would have taken advantage of their majorities they have now. They aren't interested in doing things on their own like investigations or any truly anti-corporate legislation. I'm coming to the sad conclusion that these are all public relations agents for the corporate powers that be and play along peacefully with the game that is all staged for them to play. I'm saddened.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
the 2-party house of cards is going fall, and fall hard. Unfortunately, the power that has kept it together this long won't go down without a fight.
The game is rigged!
Agreed.
If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?
You ask too much too early, Geronimo. I hope!
There is nobody closer to our world view than Obama. There is nobody further away from our world view than republicans.
I guess what i'm saying here is hang in there, it's only 'half time' in this game.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Hardly. Take for example Geronimo's other comment, "FBI Raids on Anti-War Activists.", Assassination Program under State Secrets Privilege. U.S. Wants to Make It Easier to Wiretap the Internet, Pentagon destroys 10,000 books, After committing to 'Net Neutrality', Dem pushes bill to kill it etc etc.
this isn't stuff that was happening under Bush and needs to be fixed. This is stuff that is new, and happening right now, under the Democrats.
It's utterly absurd to think that voting for these wanna-be Republicans is going to have any real effect. That'll teach em, eh? Voting for them? What on Earth makes you think the Dems will do anything to change if you just keep voting for them. It's like the Chicago Cubs, no motivation to build a successful organization because the idiots still pack the stands no matter how much they suck.
The doom and gloom you predict, this end of sunshine (when it's cloudy anyway), killing unicorns hand-waving that you and all the other apologists employ is dishonest. We have elections every two years in this country, winning one election (if the Repubs in fact do gain a majority) is not the end of the world you make it out to be. So how about you shut up. I'm tired of being told to buck up and vote for these assholes. I refuse to have blood on my hands, no matter what the party. Loyalty is overrated and dangerous.
Polls are now showing several Senate "Toss Up" races either narrowing the GOP lead to within a small Margin of Error (2 points or less) or the Dem's lead increasing. The current momentum in the polls is not on the GOP side. It's on the Dem side.
There is no indication yet that Maddow's "national" approach is right and the DNC's "local" approach is wrong. In fact, the indicators support the opposite conclusion. So far anyway.
The president told Democrats that making change happen is hard
The excuse spoken by anyone who ever failed at anything without really trying.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi8zyp1je9Y
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Read this through before you throw away your vote, and your life in the process:
http://obamaachievements.org/list
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
addressing climate change: nope
closing guantanamo bay: nope
55k still in iraq and dying
more and more and more troops in afghanistan: check
bp skating after their tragedy in the gulf
too big to fail banks MERGING
http://obamaachievements.org/list
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
"When I ask politicians why we still don't have solar energy, they tell me...'It's haaard..it's really HAAARD'. Oye, makes me wanna go poopie." - Lewis Black
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
when he was in office: Being Preznit is HARD!
Is that the best we can aspire to?
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
know how to dig holes better than any other politicians. This must be part of their "stop complaining and vote for me, you idiot!" strategy.
Mission Accomplished.
The Democratic Party Platform - "Vote for us. We suck less."
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
republicans and their corporate donors with the help of bclinton over the past two decades...That is the DEEPEST hole ever dug....double the deficit..--two unfunded wars, tax breaks for the wealthy that add $3.7 trillion to the deficit!--deepest diparity of wealthy to middle class and job loss!
Hmmmm
"The president told Democrats that making change happen is hard and 'if people now want to take their ball and go home, that tells me folks weren't serious in the first place.'"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivuBVBDLVXs
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Sounds like he's at least taking responsibility for his own shortcomings. Sigh???????
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLCKSPFrkJQ
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"People need to shake off this lethargy. People need to buck up," Obama told Rolling Stone in an interview to be published Friday.
This is Obama's "malaise" speech. Count the days. He's done.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
so he can learn the difference between lethargy and disappointment.
...then whines.
shook your hand when you were first running for Governor of Delaware, and I am a rock-ribbed Democrat of the Harry Truman persuasion, but I will quit whining when the Democrats get some cojones and stop letting the Rethugs walk all over them and stop running and hiding when the Rethugs say "Boo". Get those damn Blue Dogs in line and get busy running the country instead of running from it. LBJ would have been up there on the hill twisiting arms until they were fractured....where's the fighting Democratic spirit that used to be "of the people, by the people, and for the people"?
Now it seems to be "of the corporations, by the corporations, and by the corporations".
Yeah, we'll quit whining when you Dems start doing the job we elected you for--LEADING AND RUNNING THE DAMN COUNTRY!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
doesn't let the other side of the fight be seen or heard, it only seems like they aren't fighting. When you have a referee that doesn't call foul on the republicans, they have the advantage in the fight.
How about reinstating the Fairness Doctrine. That would put a kink in old Rupert's colon.
In fact, how about reinstating ALL of the New Deal legislation that Clinton and the GOP repealed in order to rape the country?
This isn't rocket science.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
So they develop a strategy to overcome that. They have all the power right now. Where there's a will, there's a way. I think the will is lacking.
Republicans are right to call them wimps.
(PS But you still have to vote Dem. And you know it.)
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Nothing...not one damn thing from republicans ...Nose and face.---looking more like the teabaggers everyday---the whiners...!!! .
They're not supposed to do anything for us. That's why we don't vote for them.
OUR Party is where political pressure is applied, because the way it's SUPPOSED to work is they create a platform we can support....adn then we vote for them.
Of course, subleties like that may simply escape you.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Do you mean their republicans, or OUR republicans.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
start doing the job we elected you for....LEADING AND RUNNING THE DAMN COUNTRY!!!"
I second that.
LBJ had 68 Dems in the Senate. Whatever arm-twisting he was up to in those days had to do mostly with Democratic arms.
Not the same situation at all.
I think Rahm summed up their feelings nicely when he called us a bunch of "fucking retards".
Seems to me the only group offering real solutions is the Green Party. Both the Dems and Repubs are offering more of the same...another shovelful off the status quo crap pile.
To a certain extent, we are all "fucking retards".
No, I don't like Emanuel. He is one of the "fucking retards".
GW also whined about all the "hard work" he was doing as president.
Neither GW nor Obama ever did a single day's hard work in their lives.
Pink- Dear Mr President - Live
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
You've run out of luck
And lost this old clown
I am so tired of hearing
What you're gonna be
give it up for Sister Double Happiness
For nearly two years we have been waiting to see the leadership and direction promised during the campaign. For nearly two years we have seen less leadership than we can comprehend and more rolling over to the BLOCK and BLAME REPUBLICANS than anyone could have imagined. We have watched the real crimes against the country and constitution by the former administration go unchecked, and sadly some have been continued. We have been told that a bill weakened to gain the support of the BLOCK and BLAME REPUBLICANS, only to see no votes from that side, is still "a big F--king Deal". We have watched the lead dog act like a lap dog. We have tolorated the effects of poor advisors. And now we are weeks away from a midterm election that has only recently seemed to grab the attention of the Dem leadership. And we are supposed to be silent followers and not offer negative opinions, but simply to shut up and vote or be looked upon as "not serious in the first place". WTF! ?WTF!? WTF!?
Get involved in the process or quit your bitching.
Get involved in the process or quit your bitching.
I guess you define getting involved in the process as "getting in line".
Gee, is that you President Clinton?
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
must be using a different English dictionary than the rest of us.
Clearly terms like "hope" and "change" mean something totally different in dlcspeak. Therefore you may be right and "get involved" means something totally different for them.
If there was an available dictionary to do the translation, a lot of misunderstandings could have been avoided!
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Get involved in the process = don't ask questions, just march like an ant to the polls and vote for anyone with a (D) after their name, then march back home and be quiet.
"Get involved in the process or quit your bitching"
campaigned, voted, contact my senators and congressman on most issues.
WTF?! what more did you have in mind with your "get involved" statement.
Find someone better than Obama for progressive causes!
Certainly not any of the republicans!
Pretty simple.
If we all get out and vote democrat we might even win a super majority. Then you'll see that Dems are good for progressive causes.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
wonder why people are pissed and aren't motivated to vote for their sorry asses. All the party has to offer right now is excuses for not getting the job done and insults for those who are audacious enough to notice that they aren't getting the job done in many different areas.
I had every intention of voting this year, but now I'm not so sure. I'm sick and tired of the party insulting people who want the WH and Congress to fulfill their promises. I would much prefer to still vote, but I can't think of any other way to officially react to the party's bullshit. I don't know anymore.
It's amazing to me that around this time two years ago I was highly motivated and excited to participate in the political process and now I barely even see the point of doing so.
I've never seen change without a fire
I hope several of the tea party candidates actually win...particularly in the Senate.
Our government doesn't work...it should at least provide comic relief.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
more obstruction will help.
But it will be FUN obstruction.
I want to see Christine O'Donnell propose National No Hand Job month.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY8DP2Onwgs
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
And then what?
Then you repeat yourself?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
.... now sir, I have to clean the monitor off all sorts of food mater.
LOL at your comment, in the parlance of our times... :-P
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
I ain't your mater, mate
Wrong equippage...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
... too early for having your mind in the gutter like that. At least it is in the Pacific Time zone....
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
I'm with you on this one.
I would rather be entertained, than pi**ed-off by some DLC t**d that gives me 90% of the same republican policy bulls**t that doesn't do anything to move the country along in a progressive fashion.
I think I actually find Obama and his DLC subtle republican-lite governance more offensive than the outright bats**t craziness of the republicans.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Then the republicans have played you.
I'm sorry.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
sorry for the Dems who will lose their jobs. Maybe they might have to learn what it's like to be unemployed.
I've never seen change without a fire
And their go your remaining freedoms, little at a time.
Freedom is overrated.
As a sheeple, your immune to criticism when you walk yourself off the cliff.
Just ask the now absentee "I voted for W" crowd.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Is a still-vote anything like a still-birth?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
If you don't vote, then don't bitch.
achieved, other than having people tell me not to bitch about this administration and congress' failures?
I've never seen change without a fire
But I won't forget how you threw women under the bus when you voted on healthcare, either.
Glenn Greenwald, White House Messaging about its base (The White House must be kidding) here
Mr. President, have you assassinated any more American citizens lately?
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Quit spying on Americans, arresting protesters, breaking promises, offering phony "reform" bills, protecting criminals, appointing criminals, abetting criminals, campaigning for bozos and being an all around douche and we'll quit "whining," okay?
Every president has done at least one of those things during his presidency. Yet we have survived for over 200 years.
The job ain't easy.
"This Job aint easy" is just a talking point. It is not an answer to the question of why the Democrats don't Buck UP themselves and actually stand for something. Why they support Conservadems like Blanche Lincoln and Joe Lieberman even when they stab us in the back at every turn.
has lost supporters for same.
Sure, you've survived, but look what a fucking disaster your country is.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
At some point the adminstration has to stop listening to the jackasses saying take on your base itll get moderates on your side. No it wont it just pisses off your base. The fact is the most substantive debate the president will get is coming from us. Republicans arent actually going to talk about Treaties and state secrets and infrastructure and green economy and poverty. They are going to talk about banana republics, and socialism and marxism, and kenyan anti colonialism, and indoctrination of school children, and sharia law. Dems arent attacking the president we are hoping he moves with us. These are the things we want to see so hey Mr. Pres lets make it happen. We arent sad or down on our luck we want aggressive action.
LT
Obama, et al. have convinced themselves that they can look confident if they insult the people who elected him, apparently content to believe that those people will do what they're told while he snags the occasional independent. Meanwhile, he continues to treat Teabaggers with kid gloves while they question his citizenship and his ability to hold office.
The most overused argument over the last two years is that Obama's playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
He's not.
I dont know why he thinks we are unmotivated. I guess those polls every other day saying we arent is geting to him. Fact is Repubs have outnumbered us because they are fighting one another like crazy in primaries. Weve had very few challenges to our candidates so turn out is low. I was reading another blog saying how the vast majority of the republican primary winners have gotten votes from nothing but white voters. very little minority turn out. Im willing to be that the latino community is not happy with the anchor baby crap, the muslim community is not happy with the sharia law crap, blacks arent happy with well hell we are never happy with conservatives lol. We will be there the day after and the next election. dont bash us to make everyone else feel better. Be a damn democrat and push our ideas.
LT
... as an avid chess player, I am all too aware that in chess, the peons tend to be the first ones to be sacrificed in order to protect the "important" pieces.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Then the base needs to get off its ass and support the president by voting.
i dont think the base is on its ass. I think the best is solidly behind getting rid of these particular republicans. I know for damn sure Nathan deal wont get my vote.
LT
It seems only fair, the base already got off his ass and supported him by voting him in. You know quid pro quo and stuff....
Although I assume drawing a salary to support the president may make it easier to get one's ass to vote.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
As near as I can tell, Obama's argument amounts to little more than Democrats are supposed to shut up and do what he tells us to do.
When the president quits acting like a DLC republican-lite a**, I'll get off mine.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
A Fine Whine - By Michael Moore
Michael Moore was one of the first to be right publicly on the Iraq War and he is the only journalist who got the tape of Bush sitting in the classroom like a moron while 9/11 was orchestrated.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Good stuff!
Looks like Obama and biden could use a a little bucking up too.
Things will improve when Obama gives up on bipartisanship as a lost cause with republicans.
I must say he gave republicans every opportunity to be bipartisan and they absolutely refused. He has made that perfectly clear to everyone.
Now is the time for Obama to say "they had their chance", and move things along knowing that republicans won't be happy unless America is a flat out fascist state.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I enjoyed that. And it's all TRUE!
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Maybe I missunderstood his words,but I took them as meaning more of GET OUT AND VOTE. I voted for Pres. Obama. I still belive that he was the better choice,but he is not superman he is only a man who I still belive he is trying to help those in need. But as you all know when even his judical picks sit there for month after month due to the rethuglicans there is only so much he can do. Yes times are tough but as my mom always use to say stop complaining about the problem and do something about it. In this case don't just sit this election out get out there and help the Dems by not letting the thugs get the control back at the very least and maybe even give them a majority again in the Senate. And for the record I have been looking for work since Nov. 16 2008 and do not even get unemployment but am at least thankful that others are at least getting some extns. helping them out but I will do my best to tell friends to still vote Dem because this country needs them more then they need the other party
Why is it always US who has to solve the problem and fight the good fight?
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE ELECTED THEM FOR? They had more power than any administration in decades, and they did very little with it to address the major changes that were needed.
And personally, I didn't vote for Romney Care, corporate take over of schools and terrorizing children, letting the Constitution criminals from the Bush administration walk, or sucking up to the same psychotic republicans we threw out in droves because WE LOATHED THEM. Honestly, I don't know what part of that Rahmabama didn't understand, other than they didn't want to.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
No, President Obama,
We just need some confirmation that we are all playing on the same team.
Why do you need outside validation?
Don't get smart with me: I didn't say I need "validation" (especially from folks who may be over-educated and under-bright).
I said I wanted confirmation. As in, I'd like some empirical evidence upon which I can evaluate my existing beliefs. Because, right now, I'm not seeing a lot of it.
Yeesh...
I would say he knocked that one out of the park Ernie.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Read Bob Woodward's new book. That might do it.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Give him a super majority.
Read Bob Woodwards new book. [find excerpts at the Washington Post]
The obstruction Obama is facing goes much deeper than republicans and blue dogs in congress.
The whole republican infected government infrastructure is obstructing the President.
The wars in the middle east are a great example of hidden obstructions that we didn't even know about until bob Woodward wrote about it in his new book.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
long before voters look at what the Dems are doing in response to the obstructionism.
In this case, they are too lazy to force Repugs to truly filibuster and make obstructionism very uncomfortable for Repugs, and they concede the best parts of legislation before debate even freaking begins.
I've never seen change without a fire
DING DING DING!!!!
Today's winner.
If they would have forced the repukes to stand up and actually Filibuster their indefensible positions, they could have made them look like the cold hearted pricks and liars they are.
But that would be hard work, and Harry Reid has to clean Mitch McConnell's bathroom.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Not.
republican obstruction in congress is only the tip of the obstruction ice-berg.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I liked Joe Biden better when he was plagiarizing speeches.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
I think he took this one from Rahm.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
and it looks like i am in better company than those who agree with preznit 2 and bagman biden.
click on the link
http://jonathanturley.org/2010/09/28/biden-te...
I teach at the college level...
I can't imagine having the balls to say to my students (in essense):
"Looking, you fucking ingrates. You should appreciate the stuff that I teach, because let me tell you, there are far worse teachers out there... Learning is hard, so suck it up."
Most likely, I would find that a) students would avoid taking my classes, and b) I would be getting poor evaluations.
No, I have to teach well, and teach effectively. I encourage the students who are struggling to come and get help from me. I listen to their concerns, and try to use constructive criticism to improve my job performance.
Say what you will about the "professional left": The criticism has been constructive towards this adminstration. They just seem to choose to ignore it.
Well, you know what they say about chickens and the roost. Here we are.
that many of you want Obama to take a leadership position and he tells you to buck up and quit whining all of a sudden you get your backs up about him leading. Ought to goo over well with Glenn Beck.
Well said. This crowd would have major problems surviving if this was the Great Depression.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi4Ylw1PqGE
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
without any of them having to resort to professional ass kissing or vanishing independent thought.
You theory is flawed.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Funny, the only time he shows "leadership," is when he's telling his supporters to eat s**t, and like it - d**n it!
If FDR had shown this kind of leadership, we wouldn't have survived the Great depression.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Obama...because I DIDN'T want Hillary (no more Clintons, please) and I sure as hell DIDN'T want
grumpa and quitter...however, I don't think I'll live long enough to see a viable Third Party....
"buck up"???!!!!!! Now THAT'S some canjones....telling supporters to 'buck-up'........
that telling people not to whine is displaying leadership?
I'd laugh, but I think you really believe that, which makes it very not funny.
you're whining so I'll take a leadership position and tell you to buck up and quit whining.
I'd love to goo over Glenn Beck.
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