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Gee, ya think? Everyone I know is depressed - depressed because they don't have a job, depressed because they might lose the one they have, or depressed because they're stuck in a job they hate for the benefits:

WASHINGTON - Workplace suicides surged 28 percent last year, the Labor Department said Thursday, as anxious workers dealt with a struggling economy and watched colleagues depart in a rash of layoffs.

At the same time, the agency’s Bureau of Labor Statistics said the total number of workers who died on the job from any cause fell by 10 percent.

The 5,071 workplace fatalities recorded in 2008 was the lowest number since the agency began tracking the data in 1992. That number includes 251 suicides, the highest number since official reporting began.

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Labor officials did not seek to explain the sudden rise in workplace suicides. A BLS spokesman said the agency plans to research it more extensively.

The agency says economic factors could be responsible for the overall decline in fatalities. Workers on average worked 1 percent fewer hours last year and the construction industry — which usually accounts for a major share of accidental workplace deaths — posted even larger declines in employment or hours worked.

Gary Chaison, a professor of industrial relations at Clark University in Worcester, Mass., said the numbers suggest the struggling economy taking a toll on worker morale.

“Those who are at places where there have been substantial layoffs are trying to cope with survivor’s guilt,” Chaison said. “I also think there’s tremendous anxiety in the American workplace. It’s not just being anxious, its being depressed.”

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ConcernedCanuck's picture

Those who cannot find jobs, often get so depressed as to commit suicide. Now people that still have jobs working for people that take advantage of the economic downturn to make their lives hell, are doing the same. The sad reality of mankind. And for what? Work your entire life for ungrateful assholes that become millionaires and treat you like crap, so you can retire a broken down relic that needs constant help just to live day to day? Or perhaps to work your entire life, to end up in some craphole of an old age home, where the scrupulous workers steal all your remaining possessions that greedy relatives have not. Damn. What a sad pathetic life humans have.

the contracting economy. Thanks to the Bubble Makers.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

my employers were great to work for. I've been at the same place for what seems like forever. Now that times are bad, the entire staff is treated like crap by ownership that moans continually about how little money they are making, yet take extended vacations all over the damn globe. One is currently in Scotland. I barely get enough hours to pay my damn mortgage and he is globetrotting. Ah yes, good ol' trickle down.

Evet's picture

I can relate to that. Nasty stuff.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Nowwhat's picture
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danm son, you just explained my shit to the T.

"Work your entire life for ungrateful assholes that become millionaires and treat you like crap, so you can retire a broken down relic that needs constant help just to live day to day?"

Add to that if you lose the shit job you don't have any health insurance and didn't Wall Street and Enron steal a whole mess o' people's 401K's?


"By words the mind is winged." - Aristophanes

Evet's picture

people are losing their McMansions, granite countertops, boats and SUV's . . . big screen plasmas, they invested everything into materialism being promised by the Capitalists it would never end and now it's all falling apart.

I wonder sometimes if some of the people who charged everything really understood they would have to pay for those things some day. I mean a lot of these consumers were kids who had grown up in homes where everything was charged and I don't think they all saw the effort and perhaps pain in paying off those charges.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Evet's picture

who believed their assets (home-stocks-bonds-401's-etc) would keep growing and going up forever but even that equity became victim to greed and the bubble mentality.

Those of us who resisted buying everything the tv told us we must have, are in somewhat better shape than those who felt they deserved it whether they could afford it or not.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Evet's picture

GROSS show offy materialism (Reaganism) has never excited me anyway thankfully.

How about just overwhelming worry.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Evet's picture

Worry, stress, ill health, fatigue, fear, it's a nasty situation.

ron's picture

why workplace deaths are down overall because fewer people are working. Suicides up because of the ones with jobs have to produce more for less money and it drives them into depression. Kind of like slavery.

Evet's picture

was a trial but this is insane.

Of COURSE overall fatalities were lower. That is because the construction industry is gutted, and overall UNemployment is in the fucking stratosphere. Such factors also make the suicide rate even MORE significant.

Greedy corporate capitalists and their self centered, uneducated, gun toting, teabagging lackeys can kiss my ass. So stock up on Prozac and just maybe you and your family will weather this DEPRESSION.


"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper

who gouged the American people into submission the past 8 years.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

and their dubious partner....government

we're now feeling the full brunt.

I dunno, I think the bigger culprits were the mortgage companies who sold homes to people they knew damned well couldn't and wouldn't ever be able to pay for them. The housing bubble was the big explosion.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Evet's picture

know doubt the smoke and reverberations hasn't even cleared yet from that one.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

take years. There are far too many homes that are unaffordable to far to many people. Realism has caught up to stupidity. $10-15/hour does not afford you a $200,000 home.

Evet's picture

Real Estate. There are some unbelievable screwups around.

Big projects halfway done gone bankrupt, etc.

mudshark's picture

And you still won't be able to afford a home. Not here in Monterey. The only way you could make that work was if you completely out of debt plus, 20-30k in the bank for a down payment.
Unless you went VA. That's still a no money down type loan. And so is Cal Vet. But what good is it if you don't have job security? I've been thinking about buying another home here.
I could do it, But do I really want to take the plunge?
I suppose I could rent it out, but that comes with all kinds of headaches. My friends are telling me to do it. But I'm reluctant to commit.
At work today, I was listening to some of the older contractors that are very well established.
Their sayin that the might as well just retire. Nothing new is coming out of the ground around here right now. There are some projects, but, it would be very difficult getting in with these guys. Their from out of town, and their under bidding all the locals.
Oh well, I'll just pack up and go surfin for 5-6 months and come back and see what's goin on. Usually, I can find out on line with my regulars. But they had a little fear in their voices this time.
There's always my green thumb.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

mudshark's picture

When life seems to be at an end for them, they should pack up and go on a road trip. Life is temporary. Everything in life is temporary. So when the shit hits the fan, either get out of the way,or turn it off.
Go on a road trip, Live a little. You'll be surprised at what you learn. And the opportunities that arise. All ya gotta do, is do it. Throw some adventure into your life.
Get out of that rut. You deserve it. Live in a van or a truck for a few months. Find a nice place to think. Some people like the desert, others like the coast.
Me? I like Baja. Tons and tons of seclusion, and empty beaches. Great surf, Great fishing. What more do you need? Once a week to town for provisions.
I always enjoyed from week 5 and on. Week 15-16 are really nice too.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

mudshark's picture

I know it takes money to go on road trip.
That's why I do Baja. It's cheap.
And if your catching fish(from the beach) you don't need very much.
One year I was camping on this beach in Central Baja.
A storm moved in and the next day, all the lobster fishermans traps were washed up on the reefs.
I had nothing to do, so I went out at lowtide and grabbed their taps for them and stacked them up on the road (dirt) that ran along side of the beach.
They came by and waved to me.
The next day I had a five gallon bucket filled with lobsters.
Good things happen. All you have to do is go out there and be nice. Niceness will find you.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Nowwhat's picture

hey thats a great idea, I can't work, only jobs availble are road constructs and automechanics, I got screwed hard after and injury at work and my future is going to be a wheel chair living in a cardboard box, think I'll get a road construction job and toss my self under a frontend loader......................................Im on pain meds again sorry...

Floridiot's picture

The death panel will take care of you, it's been since '02 on my work injury and I've gotten nothihg but denials, they refuse to acknowledge to me that it ever happened.

Believe me when I say there is a death panel, that's where the pukes got the idea from.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

calgarylady's picture

Those videos were chilling. Fiction, meet reality. Scary stuff.

Nowwhat's picture
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Well, I took pictures, took pictures of the broken equipent that hurt me, i took pictures of the jobs they made me do when I should have been in bed laying down(pictures with newspapers), I got pictures of the witnesses, I also have email from me begging the upper management asking them to stop giving me all the heaviest work because I am liable to hurt my back. I even went into the stores computer system and printed out my performance reports, to prove that I am the best employee they had at that time. I covered everything, but I got a Lawyer Eileen Pomento obviously connected to evil central PA people, she only tryed to ruin my case and prove me a criminal liar, Eileen Pomento effectively destroyed a perfect case against the employer, and it is because of my class?class warfare. I ended up getting only Half of what I should have, I never got workerscomp it self so I never got and medical therapy or hardly any help. I was told I couldn't try to do anything , I wanted to to see if I was hurt and how bad. I had people chasing me around town with camaras, flooding into convience stores, following me into gocerystores, people even came into the video games I played questioning me in the chat about my injury, and repeating things that were on the doctors notes, after I lost my townhouse, moved with my parents temporaily I was ready to sign off i couldn't take it anymore, they came there to my mom and dads retirement comunity to catch me lifting something, while I was there my dad threw away most of my stuff, my mom kept telling me to get a job and get a room. About a week after I settled out, my parents told me I need to get out, my truck I was driving was broken down, I drove around trying to find a place to stay for weeks finishing my truck off, I stayed at a hostile for a few days till they got strange and continued sleeping in a van i just bought to replace my truck that broke(a rare 4 cylinder diesel datsun-I had to give away). i finaly found an apartment see highcrimes105 on youtube, that guy tryed to sue me, the workerscomp doctor gave me a pain presciption that cost 350 dollars swelled my stomache and destroys my immune system sending me to the emergency room costing a 1000 dollars while that was happening the bank I put the money in charged me almost 2000 dollars in bank fees, I needed my van fixed and got robbed 1600 dollars from that guy and he broke more than he fixed, the electric company had my billes up over 300 a month and 2 months were 500, I did not use that much electric. Child support robbed 700 from my account for being 150 behind. The state and local taxes keep rebilling me for the same thing, loosing my payments. I threw away what my dad didnt over the 3 months at that toxic apartment, I sold a 3500 dollar welder for 500 dollars sold a 1000 dollar tool box for 200, I lost all my stuff, my dad says just by new stuff, I HAVE ENOUGH LEFT TO SUE FOR LEGAL MALPRACTICE easily. I am trying to reopen this work comps case ATM, my intentions are really only to asked for a simple service writers job but in a California store, no one will respond lawyer after lawyer tells me I can't reopen the case but the last lawyer I had told me I could sue again in the future if I found out I am hurt, her name Diane Fenner she won't responde to me, If i do anything strenous I cant walk and seems to be getting worse. So if any of you know of a lawyer that will help me please pass it on.
I need to know if I should sue 1 of the old lawyers for lying and cheating me, or should I sue my previous employer again to get a job standing and sitting in one of their stores, or both???
It seems to be getting worse my legs are locking up can't swing at the hips if I lift heavy stuff, my future is looking very bad, I hope the rotten satanic organization in this area are happy now. I do have another option in mind but I will not mention it here!!!!!!!!!!!!

Floridiot's picture

Just be the last one standing, don't let them get to ya bro. they lock you out of any legal or medical recourse, so don't bother with that.
It's fraud to the max, somehow made legal for them.

It's a form of mental torture they like to perform on injured workers and they laugh while their doing it...takes all kinds to make the world go round.

It flies under the radar because the majority of people don't think it will happen to them, so it's basically ignored. If I were physically/financially capable, I would do a major investigative report on this.

P.S. they've been pulling this same shit since 1913 so I don't think we're alone. BTW, do you remember getting an obscure little postcard in the mail saying in so many words, of notification that they were going to spy on you? I got one a few years back. Somehow that makes it legal for them to tap your shit.
Invasion of privacy means nothing to them.

Floridiot's picture

"Ring and Run, Strange Medical Devices" come to your door?

I had two people drive up in a car to my house, the passenger would get out with a suitcase and run it up to my door, ring the doorbell and peel out before I could get there, inside the suitcase was some kind of a neck stretcher with a video on how to operate it, I brought it in and asked the Doctor about it and how it arrived at my house...the look in his eye wasn't curiosity, it was fear as he told me not to use the contraption.

That didn't happen just once either.

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I know it trick after trick, when the dictor gave me the magnacet he had a strabge evil smile on his face. Lance Yarus was the doctor, I am going to try to get disability but I already know where thats gonna go. I didnt get health care I got a torture experiment that I suspect made me permanent.

Hey just wondering did you start getting strange massive infections or cysts, seems every time one of them would touch me I would grow a dime zided cysts right in that spot of contact. Think about that last run threw with the health care system, I could really care less if we get universal healthcare or not, they killed my grandfather early and broke me permanatly, think they enjoy causing pain and dispare. Screw it next time I fall ill or what not in going into the woods to die fuck em.

Floridiot's picture

After I tried some medicine they gave me I have had two heart attacks since.
When I've been under to get stents put in, I can remember them asking me a lot of questions about different shit.

I told them I would feed them their lunch if they didn't shut up, I remember that much.

They make everything worse by keeping it hidden from you.

As far as the cysts go, that has something to do with spinal cord damage, I've had similar problems.

Nowwhat's picture
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yes I got the drugs to screw my brain up too, haha, too bad when i am really screwed up I can't talk, HAHAHA. Ill mulmble and mutter un-understandable outaspace crap. :P

Floridiot's picture

on me earlier, I refuse to take them now

Nowwhat's picture
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Yes I remember the post card, so retarded, this country sucks, I have a friend that got hurt, he was from a prominent family, he got a massive settlement and was put on disability imediatly @ 20 years old. after he settled he had a girlfriend and slept on a water bed, he suposidly had a hurt back too. I can tell ya there is no chance I could have strong sex on a regular bed, and he was pumping away on a water bed too boot.
I want that list, I want that list of people, I want to know who they are, where ther are.

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I just wanted to add, I still think I won, I know the storys and for the clas citizen that I am, I say I won.

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Evet's picture

LOL I self deleted myself?

ysbaddaden's picture
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I think that's illegal in some states.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Quasi's picture

Considering the topic.

Let's face it, slavery has never gone away in America. They had black folks to do it for a while and after that went away they just made sure there would be slavery for everyone of a certain economic level. As much as the Repukes love to poo-poo Europeans, the common person does have a much better life over there. Five weeks vacation right of the bat on top of the 20 or so paid holidays a year. And gee, I don't see Europe being in the crapper and more than the USofA. They live quite well, year in, year out regardless of the doom and gloom thrown at them by the Repuke over here. Sure they have their problems, but who doesn't but the stress levels over here are much worse on a day to day basis. And if the Pukes and corporations, and the f^%!n repuke base have their way, it will continue.

bilhelm-x's picture

I got a ~20% pay cut late last year but it looks like 10% is coming back in November. Housing prices have fallen enough to actually buy a home in the Bay Area, not Palo Alto mind you but.. I guess I'll be really nervous after we "own" a house and then one or both of us get laid off. What a wonderful thought! I wonder where work place homicides have gone?

project's picture

To the early 1970s I had a job as QC inspector at a plant making catalytic converters the first year they went on Fords. God I hated that job. I also hated a year I spent in the Lab for BASF. Funny at the time I kind of liked what I was doing. It was later on that I came to understand what an awful job it really was. Just because of the health effects from handeling all those chemicals, unprotected.
We didn't know about the toxic fumes we were breathing, and the things we handled and got it on our skin on a regular basis. We used to wash our hands with gasoline. We just didn't know any better and if the company did they never said. But if you are doing something you don't like, man thats the pits.

Floridiot's picture

some kind of healthcare in this country, people could be getting some treatment for their problems

Dahgrostabph-r-i's picture

If you are stuck in a job you hate only so you don't loose the medical benefits then that sounds like the your on the Republican health plan to me.

Damn. That's not enough deaths to lower my unemployment rate.

bbob's picture

since I've become unemployed. Yeah, the money's tight, but I sleep so much better now. It's amazing what getting 8 hours a night will do for your outlook. I also don't have to put up with the bullshit that I did when I was employed - idiot bosses who have absolutely NO idea what you actually do for their company telling you idiot things to do to improve your productivity (and more importantly, their bottom line).
My tv station was merged with another station in the market in May, and everyone except 7 employees at my station were "terminated". It's only been almost 3 months now, but NO one watches my former station now - why? Because in order to get all the newscasts on for 2 stations (in one facility now) they have to tape all of my former station's shows beforehand in order to have 2 shows on simultaneously - and it shows (and everyone in the market knows about it, thanks to most of us who were terminated making it well-known!). They are presenting taped news as "live" and trying to get advertisers to support it. A lot of the advertisers have balked at spending their money, especially in these hard times, on a taped show.

I actually feel really bad for the people who are left - they have to do twice the work (often at ungodly hours) to get less than twice the product out. It really wouldn't surprise me if a workplace suicide happened at my former station. I hope to God that doesn't happen, but, it really wouldn't surprise me. Like I said before, I have nowhere near the stress I did when I worked for these idiots.

I was laid off, and am having a very hard time finding work. The only place I've interviewed that has hinted at an offer is for low pay, no benefits, no holidays, long hours, grueling work that I might not even be suited to doing.

It's also a huge pay cut. I'm waiting for two companies to get back to me next week regarding my interviews, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I also have another company contacting me next week regarding setting up a second interview. I'm keeping my finger's crossed.

I have been cycling in and out of deep depression, and recently was hit with a massive attack of it, so much so that I registered to join a group that has members dealing with similar emotional issues. I'll be meeting with them tomorrow.

Saying that it's nerve wracking is an understatement. At times, it's devastating. If it wasn't for friends I can talk to, I'm not sure what I have done. But, I will say one thing, at one point, if it wasn't for the fact that I knew it was completely illogical, even borderline crazy, I could easily have imagined someone who felt what I was going through hurting themselves. That realization was truly horrifying.

If you're suffering from emotional issues I would also recommend joining a group dealing with similar problems. Talking to someone helps, even if you think it wont.

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