December 11, 2008 05:30 AM
You Can Use A Chuckle, Right?
I can't even describe the sheer awesomeness of this site where pieces of coal are singing Christmas carols about clean coal! And you get to put hats on them, and scarves - you'll love it, too. (Thanks to Dr. S. from Redsoxville.)


Ahh, what a way to start the day. Putting clothes on pieces of singing "clean" coal. I wonder out of what mountain top these creatures sprang. Now I have to go wash all this coal dust off my hands so that my hands will once again be clean.
Oh, and Good Morning Everyone!
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
There is no such thing as clean coal!If a person handles a piece of clean coal in one hand and regular(?) coal in the other, guess what?Both hands are equally dirty!
This is something my grandmother would send me in a forwarded email.
It's retarded. I feel that much more retarded for having seen it. You should, too.
What are we? Six?
What? You mean this didn't make you want to run out, blow the hell out of a beautiful mountain and mine a shit load of coal today? I declare, I don't understand how you avoided the desire.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I used to be against the usage of "clean coal."
Now that I can see "clean coal" wearing cute little hats and scarves -
and singing happy Cheese-us songs,
I wonder how could I have been such a meany?
Well, it's time to nuke some "delicious dog shit" and pour a glass of "pleasant pus" for breakfast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfo9nx6mcdA
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Y'all remember that cartoon within a cartoon on the Simpson's, where Jumpin' Joe Fission was explaining the benefits of nuclear power?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Fossil fuels have been used since the beginning of time but
what would have happened if these material had never been used at all?
Where would the world be today?
CHANGE will take time, which is in short supply. So how and when can we begin
making a serious effort to change?
How many Governors insist cars on highways and toll roads MUST HAVE at least
two passengers?
Do you drive to work, alone?
If not, you can see most people do.
As a child, our home was heated by burning large blocks of coal in the
fireplace. It was cheap and available. If we had not had this fossil fuel
back then, my family would have frozen to death.
I suggest all Green Supporters understand the fear of some
when they are told, "No more, coal."
Drive through parts of the US where coal is king. To make any changes at all,
these are the people who must be taken into the fold by making them
appreciate and benefit from the CHANGE right away........at the very beginning and not as
an after thought.
However, we must also live by example and do what we can in our own
daily lives.
Are we willing to be limited in our auto driving by mandating two or more in
autos?
Why not begin a campaign for your state to make these changes?
Pols are scared to death of being the ones to do so.
Isn't it up to us?
... we're not all a bunch of Humvee-driving neanderthals.
I drive to work alone because I go to work at 3 AM. My car is a fuel-efficient, partially zero-emission vehicle. I get up, and because the rest of the household is asleep, I'm using an LED flashlight to move around the house. And, if I *do* turn on a light, it's a CFL bulb.
I resent people preaching green as if it's their personal moment of salvation.
Shadowgm
I agree with you. My point is that while "teaching green" is a good thing,
the teachers must first lead by example. Preachers not allowed because as you
stated the "preachers" can bring more resentment than good will.
A few cities, too few, mandate banning single passenger vehicles on roadways during
the am/pm rush hours. In my opinion, this is a sensible beginning but moving toward
this kind of change is very difficult.
I would like to see, the Green Teachers, work for this kind of change.
I've never bought the "Americans love their cars" argument that puts most of the blame for pollution on consumers. The fact is that since we don't have a decent public transit system we are often forced to use cars whether we want to or not. No one is saying that we are going to close all the existing coal powered plants but Clean Coal is a scam to make us build MORE coal plants with the fantasy that we can succesfully capture and sequester the CO2. In fact there are ZERO operating clean coal plants. Its been demonstrated on a very small scale and there are huge problems to make it work for real, if it ever can. Its not something we should be putting money into given there are so many other technologies (solar, wind) that are truly renewable and can be made to work now. Its not the poor midwestern consumers who are all scared of losing their coal, its the fat cats in the coal industry.
Thirty some years ago, I was in Scottsdale, AZ. and
a referendum for public rail transit was up for a vote.
Citizens comments and opinions printed in the AZ newspapers were mostly
not in favor of the public transportation because voters loved their cars
and independence.
Times have changed. I think many agree with your argument.
We do need reliable and safe public transportation.
I realize my initial post may have sounded like I didn't think consumers needed to be educated at all and I agree that would be foolish. But what I'm saying is that when we put all or most of the emphasis on consumers we play into the MSM and corporate message and shift responsibility from the people who do a lot to SHAPE consumer demands. E.g., by advertising big gas guzzling cars, by defunding public transportation so people's experience with it is negative and also by filtering what gets into the media. In the Scottsdale example you describe I wonder if the letters that got printed in the newspaper were actually representative of what was recieved by the paper or if they printed more of the pro car letters.
Yikes, did I wake up in the bizarro universe? Clean coal is an oxymoron. Its a phantom meant to distract us while we keep on sticking our heads in the sand and ignore global warming: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/10/clea...
I had a college professor who assigned a book about the glories of living in Africa. He wanted to see if we would identify the blatant imperialism and white supremacy that the book was steeped in or if we would fall for her Euro-centric viewpoint. I wonder if Susie Madrack is doing the same thing. Where's the tune about stripping the top of a mountain off and pouring the slag into the valleys? Where's the song about the permanent underclass surrounding coal production? What about the ballad of the corrupt politicians selling off the future of their constituents?
I'd like some clarity from the editorial staff at C&L. Is it your position that clean coal is possible? As Rachel Maddow would say, "Talk me down"
(To the tune of 'Winter Wonderland')
There's lots of coal, lots of oil
Pristine lands to despoil
Keep the public asleep as profits we reap
Livin' in a clean coal wonderland
Profits rise with speculation
Take away the regulations
A new day does shine upon our latest strip-mine
Livin' in a clean coal wonderland
Forget Gore's blather, there's no global warming
We paid a bunch of scientists to say it's so
We have to break dependence on foreign sources
And if the wildlife's in the way, it's got to go
Sell your hybrid, drive a hummer
Watch FOX News, so you're dumber
Telling lies are the plan, just like supply and demand
Livin in a clean coal wonderland ...
(Okay, so it's a bit tortured in spots. It's early.)
Hey, I like it!
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Let's inoculate, not allow it to go viral.
Yeah...and my shit smells of roses.
My first impression was that Susie was being sarcastic about what she said in regard to the singing coal website. But, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time in the last hour, since I already picked up the syrup bottle by the lid....which was not screwed on tightly.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I hate it when I do that.
It was messy and it wasn't clean.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/200...
Obama is promising Israel that will will respond with a devastating NUCLEAR attack if Iran nukes Israel. This is absolutely insane!
First, the Israelis have their own nukes. Secondly, Iran doesn't. This is not a negotiating tool Obama. That staement never should have been uttered.
The article says:
When we nuke Iran.
Or Pakistan?
Why is Obama talking like this?
well i suspect that if the war machine starts loseing money in iraq and afganistan that were going to need to repiss off russia with putting missils on polish soil and get them back in the arms race,
It is insane Curt but the problem is insanely complicated. It is a fucked up world we live in. Israelis in one hand and Arabs in the other (holding palms up and arms a little apart like a scale) and the Persians sitting on your head and Pakistanis on one shoulder and Indians on another shoulder with Magabe nipping at you toes.
All those crazy religions and cultures sitting in the Palms of a batshit crazy Christian. The only one of them crazy enough to have actually used a nuke.
And we liked it so much we used another one a few days later!
Weeeeeee!
(To the tune of 'The Christmas Song')
Rogue states boasting that they'll open fire
And Mugabe nipping at your toes
Bill-O's got a war that ain't there
Bush goes to G-20, no one cares
Everybody knows to drop a bomb on Israel
Means you'll get nuked in reply
Neocons, with new wars to hard sell
Will find new ways to tell a lie
They know that profit's on the way
They've graft and legislators that they need to pay
On every mother's child, we'll now spy
With the NSA's benevolent eye
And so, we're clinging to our guns and faith
Because we're just too fearful to give pause
I'd wish you all a new year full of peace
But I don't believe in Santa Claus.
(That last verse is really weak, but I'm on pure improv here.)
You put some work into that.
I feel better now.
Hillary defined deterrence for Iran last April. Feel better now?
And it's a faux knee jerk spin from hear-say of an unnamed source.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Juvenal
I read the other day that Israel has been talking about attacking Iran on its own since Obama has been elected. My guess is that Obama is trying to short circuit this possibility by asserting in the strongest possible terms that Israel has nothing to fear from Iran. I don't like it either but if Israel were stupid enough to launch an attack on Iran I don't even want to think about the consequences.
(sung to the tune of "Bingo was his name o")
The was a country had a name and Israel was its name-o
A.-I.-P.-A.-C.,
A.-I.-P.-A.-C.,
A.-I.-P.-A.-C. and Israel was its name-o.
Then one day a neighbor started buggin and we said we would bomb them,
Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran,
Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran,
Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran we'll send them back to the stoneage!
The audio from 'You Don't Know Jack: The Ride,' which had a BINGO segment where the letters were punctuated with shotgun blasts, IIRC.
Of course more is always nice - but we've been laughing our asses off for days here in Illinois at the way Blago self-destructed.
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and the little critters in the media are doing their damnest to forge an industrial strength lead albatross, using Blango, to place it firmly on Obama's neck.
I am not laughing, at all...
He has not even been inaugurated, and the media is already putting the Obama team on the defensive. Meanwhile Boosh is getting a free pass, a pass that has lasted over 8 years.
That is why I am sick of Obama's appeasement rhetoric, show your fucking teeth damn it.
I think it's appropriate that they equate clean coal with santa clause since they're both fairy tales.
Funny, I used to think that getting a lump of coal for Christmas meant that you had been a very bad person that year.
Actually it was coals and switches.
And I personally know some folk who wouldn't mind getting switches in their stockings.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Why is Crooks and Liars advocating the burning of coal for electricity? This post is propagandistic and is a real turn off. I can't even describe the sheer vulgarity of this post.
The ditties seemed even funnier with bare pieces of coal against a dark cityscape.
I can't wait for Clean Coal Barbie(tm)!
In fact, this cries out so loudly for satire that it wouldn't surprise me to see a "Clean Coal" episode of South Park, where all the main characters have their heads replaced by chunks of coal. Hilarity ensues as the kids try to wash their faces and the whole show fills up with black smudges. Of course Kenny dies when he falls over and his head breaks into ten pieces with lots of little black crumbs.
Silent night, Coaly night
Acid rain near the site
Round yon power plant Mother and Child
Breathing in the sulphur dioxide
Breast milk with mercury
Breast milk with mercury
Silent night, Coaly night
Mountaintops lost from sight
Slurried streams of runoff reach far
Dust and soot bringing emphysema
Wildlife habitat gone
Wildlife habitat gone
Silent night, Coaly night
Lungs are clogged, asthma tight
T.B. victims behind pallid face
Pulmonary disease in this place
Power, what is it worth?
Power, what is it worth?
Two weeks ago I was laid off my job as an advertising art director. I see this site and really wonder what the hell I'm doing with my life. It could've been me making this site, and I wouldn't be able to say no to working on it.
Sigh. I've already done ads for a coal fired electric company, a big one. I rationalized it by saying that I use electricity provided by coal and it would be hypocritical of me to not do work for them.
I need a new career.
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