Rudy Giuliani Has Close Ties With Catholic Priest Accused Of Molesting Children
Via Telegram.com:
Republican presidential candidate Rudolph W. Giuliani has close ties to a Catholic priest accused of sexually molesting boys and who also was the lawyer for a now-closed Whitinsville counseling house for troubled priests that has been described as the center of a pedophile sex ring.
Monsignor Alan J. Placa, who works for Mr. Giuliani's consulting firm, Giuliani Partners, was legal adviser in the 1980s to the House of Affirmation, where priests accused of sexual abuse were sent for psychotherapy and other counseling services. The center closed in 1987 amid a financial scandal.
Monsignor Placa, who while an active priest arranged the annulment of Mr. Giuliani's first marriage, baptized his two children and officiated at the funeral of his mother, is a childhood friend of Mr. Giuliani and they both attended Manhattanville College.
He was stripped of his duties as a priest, but not defrocked, after Newsday, a Long Island newspaper, published a story in 2002 about young men who alleged that Monsignor Placa abused them in the 1970s. He has been on administrative leave since and has worked for Mr. Giuliani for the past five years. Read on...
Rudy suuuuuure knows how to pick 'em...
Frist (I think)
God, I never though I'd find a candidate worse than Bush until I saw the republican presidential hopefuls. They are all insane, grossly incompetent, or both. The only person with half a mind on that side is Ron Paul but he's pretty extreme.
Great picture of Ghouliani
what close ties to crime ,does rudy NOT have??
Nate @ 2:
Ahhhh. The comb-over days.
Good times, eh, Nate?
What does anyone expect from cross dresser ghoullyani. They say birds of a feather flock together.
Friar Tuck @ 3:
Heehee. Sums up Rudy.
But the right is so desperate to remain in control in the White House they'd elect a serial killer as long as he's an actor or a pseudo-hero. They are the party of values.
Can we just stipulate that if you are a repugnacan you either molest children or have a fondness for hookers, maybe both.
Yipes!! You could put a pair of crossbones under jewel's skull, and it would look just like the "skull and crossbones". Can you imagine having that face to look at for four years after an 8 yr stint with the chimp and darth? Holy shit!!
This can’t be good.
ckerst @ 7:
noooooooo see they only like ´´massages´´ its differant then hooker sex etc.!!!
Smell something burning?
My God, is there no end to these lying, corrupt, immoral, indecent sleazes..The mere fact this this A--is running for President is an insult to the intelligence of the Amerian People..
Toast
What does this have to do with Rudy? That is the priest's doing, not his. This is a non-story and should not have been posted. The Kerik thing has weight, not this.
Giuliani shouldn't be blamed for the crimes of one of his friends. Don't get me wrong, I think Giuliani is an idiot and a liar, but that doesn't mean he should be blamed for the faults of one of his friends. It's the same kind of shit Republicans pulled against Clinton. The fact that Clinton got a blowjob from an intern has nothing to do with how great of a president he was. Likewise, the fact that Giuliani has a friend with serious faults doesn't have any bearing on how crappy of a candidate he is.
You don’t think Rudy could be….? Naaa.
"God, I never though I'd find a candidate worse than Bush until I saw the republican presidential hopefuls. They are all insane, grossly incompetent, or both. The only person with half a mind on that side is Ron Paul but he's pretty extreme."
Doesn't that make them just like the president we have now?
drb @ 14:
If you sleep with dogs your'e bound to get flees.
that from another Italian-Tommy Lasorda.
Sorry, but I can't get behind this kind of guilty-by-association stuff, no matter how opposed I might be to Giuliani. Does this make everyone in this priest's parish guilty? And the priest's not even convicted of anything, just accused. Get serious.
M-Dog @ 15:
Rudy’s judgment is in question. What about Bernie what’s his name. The police commish?
My mom had a saying yrs ago,
´´Pll judge you by the company you keep´´.
which is true and they do and if you want the respect of the american ppl and attempt to heave thyself up the political ladder, rudy should have known better. After the bernie thing, he really really really should have known better. But thats rudy, either hes dumb as hell or just does not care. Iam thinking its the latter.
I think Giuliani went to Manhattan College, not Manhanville.
I heard that he has a time share with Lucifer down in Brazil.
What is this repug fixation with amoral, souless whack job crooks anyway?
Leaders are always judged by the choices they make in their associations. He should be no different.
Friar Tuck @ 21:
You're saying he should denounce his friend to get "the respect of the american people an heave himself up the political ladder"? Basically, you want him to ditch a childhood friend just so he can get enough votes to win an election. I don't want a president who pulls shit like that just to move up in the polls. (Not that I'd want Giuliani anyway)
M-Dog @ 25:
My guess is that they're both far right loony tune members of the Opus Dei cult.
Rudy has some really high class buddies doesn't he?
Haven't been to C&L lately, though I love it, and was surprised to see that you no longer use Haloscan. But this appears to be a lot better than Alternet and Smirking Chimp with their password requirements.
I am wondering why this priest and his clergy friends, and others that I've read about, can own property. I thought that they took a vow of poverty. Did this change?
M-Dog @ 25:
The thing with Rudy is there is no there there. He was lucky enough to be the mayor when 9-11 happened but that does not make him Presidential material. He was no good before and what has he done since? Made speeches. That’s it.
Get over him. He could be likeable to a lot of people but his judgment sucks. Look where he places the headquarters for the whatever. In the World Trade Center. That was stupid. And the radio thing? His quitting of his wife? Bernie? This pedophile priest as an advisor? About the only good thing is he is for abortion but would flip flop on that if he could get away with it.
Toast.
M-Dog @ 15:
ONE of his friends? Shit! this guy's friends could have their own large section over at Smoking Gun. One friend-yeah-many of us have had shithead psycho/sociopathic/pathological liar felon/friends in our lives.
But hopefully, for most of us, that was a swift lesson, learned in youth. Rudy keeps making the same bad mistakes...no smoke w/o fire. Jes' sayin'
Rudy leaves a ring around the bathtub that how dirty he is past deals here and there. I dont trust the smuck. Hes ducked questions after questions about his NYCFD treatment and hes also ducked on his so called family values while cheating on his then wife with his now wife. what gives? i do not need any sermun from a guy whos past is ??? and had a affair while holding public office, and then took a shit on the FD and then got paid ?? to talk about his role in 9/11.
hes worthless.
Rudy has ties to the mob ( Kerik ), now a pedophile priest, family values, lmao
What is it with these republicans with ties to pedophiles anyway?
While on the subject of catholic priests, they are the biggest argument to teach kids about condoms, especially if you send them to church. You never know how many kids that priest has been with /Yes, a sarcastic snark
Our next president!
about catholic priests,, it is a normal question to ask a person during a after funeral confession if they masterbate ?
Because if thats not normal , meaning if a priest asked you that and you felt the same WTF? please say so.
Thats my dealings with one priest, after we burried our mother.
Wonder how much Giuliani pays the pedophile priest... and what does the guy do? Also, those are two of the scariest mugs I ever saw.
There is no mystery or irony as to why so many pedophiles and criminals flock to the religious right and the "law and order" patriotic shield of the Republican party. It's the ultimate cover: hide behind a statue of Jesus and the American flag and no one will question you.
Well, if you're into cronyism, Guiliani is your man.
Sorry, but I can’t get behind this kind of guilty-by-association stuff, no matter how opposed I might be to Giuliani. Does this make everyone in this priest’s parish guilty
Fair enough. Heck, Paul Shanley (one of the major perv priests, he was at the founding of NAMBLA) worked at one Church-related charity my own grandparents had financially supported. That doesn't mean my grandparents had "close ties" with molesters.
There's more than enough legitimate stuff to hang Rudy by. Read Kevin Baker's cover story in the current Harper's.
This is a Drudge-like post.
[No it's not-Sitemonitor]
Drudge holds a open post´? since when? and how come i was not informed?
/snark/
[Deleted. Scroll past the stories you don't like. When you have a website, you determine its content-Sitemonitor]
if i see another C/L post about fox news using unflattering pictures of edwards or clinton....
[Don't insult the site on its own bandwidth-Sitemonitor]
This is a "touchy" one. I am no friend of Rudy but if this simply boils down to being loyal to a friend...even I would have to respect that. So many are quick to judge and few are given to loving their enemies or being loyal to their friends. For now, on this one, I will give Rudy the benefit of the doubt. Rudy's behavior might be honorable here...I respect friendships...we all have had friends who have made mistakes. Usually everyone abandons them...except the few true friends. A friend in need is a friend indeed! I say withhold judgment…honor may be the proper response.
Figures.
bob bruman @ 45:
John Wayne Gacy just called. He wants to know if you'll be myspace pals with him.
Okay, this is just embarrassing. It really irritates me when sites I generally love, who represent my general philosophies to the world act like this. Seriously. This article is muck. It's trash. It's libel. I don't care what connections he had to this guy, and neither should anyone of you. Unless he helped him gather little kiddies into a dark alley, this is ridiculous. I have close ties to a rapist, too. He's my uncle. Pretty damn close, huh? But, that doesn't have anything to do with me. I thought he was a great day up until he was proven guilty. That doesn't make me a bad person. I agree that he does belong in prison. So, Giuliani knowing this guy should not be used against him. There are way too many serious things to hold him accountable for. So, please, everybody, don't stoop to this and make the rest of us look like jackasses.
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argh...typo edit: "I thought he was a great guy up until..."
I don't care how Rudy knows the priest or what their relationship is - the more smut the better - it would be very very horrible if Rudy were to become the next president of our already fucked up country. He is one dangerous idiot. Sound familiar?
Ben @ 48:
You don't choose your uncle. Now if you choose your uncle to be a friend, when you know he treats other living beings in particularly heinous ways-it IS on you.
People that live a lie with no concern for the feelings of others aren't 'friends' They can't be. So if you know someone like this, and you had no idea, because they lied, lived a lie-sought out work that would give them cover and protection-they are sociopaths-and they don't have friends..
When you find out your 'friend' for decades hid this from you (lying by omission), you leave them. Just like you did with your uncle. Why? You might have been their friend, but they were, and never will be, your friend. They're incapable. It's a sociopath's trait.
Maybe that's how he escaped being condemned by the church for being pro-choice.
Check out this Youtube...especially the Reagan lover who says that everyone who has ADIS deserves to die. This is the kind people we have to beat out of our government in '08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b_W9H4_08o
Let's see, the list of Rudy's friends and associates includes pedophiles, drug dealers, white supremacists, whore mongers and crooked cops. You can learn a lot about a man from the company he keeps.
I've got a question: This scumbag was apparently relieved of his priestly duties by was not defrocked, which means he's still a priest, no? So this money he rakes in, presumably legal fees, since he's a lawyer, from working for Giuliani and Accomplices - uh, I mean Partners, is tax free, since he's still a member of the Church. That's a sweet deal, he's got. Maybe I've misread the article, but perhaps someone could comment on my observation.
These scumbags really stick together and form networks
developed to trick and scam the system. Really is amazing
that many of Rudy's closeset friends and associates are
in or have checkered present or pasts .
I kinda' remember my mom telling me, "Birds of a feather stick together."
She was right on!!!!
Captain Kangaroo @ 9:
Maybe not good for the victims but I have to laugh my arse off at the GOP = party of pedophiles and sex offenders. Damn! If only sombody would be caught giving Boosh a blow job. Forget it, he could get caught humping his pooch and his followers would just wink and say, "Oh, gawd told him it was ok."
Rudy should be kicked back to Canarsie!
One look at that Priest and I think. No thanks man! I'll pass!
Forget it, he could get caught humping his pooch and his followers would just wink and say, “Oh, gawd told him it was ok.”
Next story to break: A caninephilia ring being run out of the White House. Reliable sources say Rick Santorum is cooperating with Federal authorities, and Karl Rove is extremely worried. George Bush has issued a statement saying he will disregard any subpoenas from Congress
gene214 @ 62:
Oh, and Barney has been ordered to take the Fifth.
gene214 @ 63:
ROFLMFAO
drb @ 14:
I agree.
Great picture of Rudy.
Thats probably the look he had on his face while he was being boned!!!
More about this meddlesome priest from the Village Voice
No Wafer for Rudy
Giuliani campaigns as a Catholic, but he's on the outs with God
by Wayne Barrett
June 26th, 2007 5:24 PM
---snip---
Twenty-five years ago, Giuliani, 38, the youngest associate attorney general in Justice Department history, was assiduously strategizing with his closest friend, Monsignor Alan Placa, about ways to annul his first marriage. He'd already divorced his wife, Regina Peruggi. But the politically ambitious Giuliani, who almost never went to Mass, was nonetheless determined to get the church to bless the dissolution of his 14-year marriage.
Placa had actually dated Peruggi himself in high school and was a seminarian when he served as best man at Giuliani's 1968 wedding. Now, in 1982, the well-connected monsignor with a law degree had come up with a way to cancel it. Since Peruggi and Giuliani were second cousins, Placa concluded, they were supposed to have obtained a dispensation from the church before marrying. Their failure to get one was grounds for a retroactive annulment.
This was ironic, because it was Placa himself who had advised the couple before the wedding that they didn't need a dispensation. At least that was the recollection of Giuliani's mother Helen in a taped interview. Helen says that Peruggi was offended by the annulment, and adds that her former daughter-in-law "went to diocesan headquarters to fight it."
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0726,barrett,77041,6.html
gene214 @ 63:
lolarusa @ 19:
I couldn't agree more. One of my childhood friends has been in drug rehab more than once, and I still consider him a friend and I still support him. Does Logan Murphy think that I should toss my friend aside because he might prove to be a political liability? That might be Logan Murphy's values, but they're not my values.
If we're judged by the company we keep, then I won't be keeping company with mudslingers like Logan Murphy.
That dude LOOKS like a child molester.
But come one, Rudy's dad was a convicted mobster. But surely, sonny, took a different path in life.
Rudy has ties to untold numbers of criminals and Sean Hannity does Vince Foster conspiracy segment on "Hannity's America"
By all indications, the Catholic Church under Pope Benedict XVI is going to playing a much more aggressive role in politics in the U.S. and around the world. Benedict's denial of communion to pro-choice politicians, his reinvigoration of pre-Vatican II rites and his inflammatory critique of Islam suggest Americans will be seeing a much higher, more muscular - and more conservative - profile from the Church. But as the news of the $660 million settlement in the Los Angeles clergy sex abuse scandal suggests, the Church in the United States would do well to look within and focus on repentance, not politics.
For the details, see:
"Repentance Not Politics: After the L.A. Archdiocese Settlement."
Just more criminal association yup this guy is into everything dirty, he is ALWAYS covering up associating with the EVIL under bellyof America, what am I saying he berongs to the EVIL UNDER BELLY he is a republican. Remember there isn't a hooker they haven't bedded a child they haven't molested and a molester they haven't COVERED for remember Foley in Florida, (did God tell him he could do that ). Just a extention and different direction from the bush CRIME FAMILY but still trying to make illegal activities honorably for all republicans.
Marcello @ 69:
Uh, the Priest WORKS for Giuliani's firm despite the fact that Rudy, being a long time friend of this scumbag, is probably well aware of the priest's past difficulties. That makes it a little bit more than just guilt by association. As for not associating with "mudslingers" well - don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out, as the saying goes.
M-Dog @ 15:
Except that after being placed on "administrative leave" (lol) he was HIRED by Ghouliani. Sure, that's what most of us do...step right in and put child molestors on our payroll without missing a beat. So, he's still officially a priest. With a high status job. Wonder if he's being a good boy these days? I mean, don't child molestors USUALLY decide to forsake their evil ways when we politely ask them to?
Liberals and Democrats would be more convincing if they were'nt such awful, hateful bastards.
ObserverDan @ 76:
Funny. I've always felt that the problem with us Liberal Democrats is that we don't hate enough. But thanks for pointing that out, concern troll.
Marcello @ 69:
That is not guilt by association. If I were to say that you must do drugs because you had a friend who was in drug rehab, now that would be guilt by association. (Twice actually. Perhaps you friend just liked hanging out at drug rehabs and never did drugs.)
Problem is when good-ole boy thinking, doing the right by your pals is the crap we got in the White House right now. Perhaps you already forgot about Libby? Can we survive another President more concerned about his pals want over the people?
What Im wondering....... was Rudy "invited" to any of the priests little boy "sex parties" ..... did he attend any??
There must be SOME reason that he hired him after the church kicked him to the curb
Our "leaders" in action
Ben @ 48:
It isnt about knowing him............ what gets me is AFTER he found out what he did and who he did it with (little boys) ......... he didnt just remain his friend (which would have been fine) but he hired him in his consultant firm....... just what the hell kind of expert is he and how many child molesters does Rudy consult for??
Who better to consult with about security issues than a "partnership" of criminals??
Oh my God please save us from this total freak Guiliani or however you spell his stupid name. He's a freak and a criminal and he is running because he gave the globalists cover in New York for the 911 attacks they used to start their resource wars and to break the middle class and constitution of the United States.
He has made millions on 911 and is using the propaganda / lies about 911 to get into the White House - where he will continue to do the corporate / oil / globalists bidding. Guiliani is a thug criminal who has one interest and that is himself. He is the most selfish manipulative, dishonest, creepy crawler, insect, bug running for office.
America's mayor! Oh Yeah, baby!!!
"Liberals and Democrats would be more convincing if they were’nt such awful, hateful bastards."
Whoa, a compliment! I'll take it!
spike @ 1:
That's what I thought until I found out he's a member of the John Birch Society. Screw the crackpot.
The worst Democrat is 10 times better than the best Republican
ObserverDan @ 76:
Save the Emo-Cons! Save the Emo-Cons! Call to Action! Save the Emo-Cons!
"Liberals hate conservatives! Liberals hate America! Liberals Hate Whorporate America!"
Do you honestly think you're convincing anyone that you're the victims of bigotry with that rubbish? Here's your reality check, observer. Rational hate of obsolete, irrational conservative policies (and no, you are not an magical, automatic default, so get over yourself) promotes change. So let's be honest, all you're really after is keeping society from becoming a place where you don't get to be a parasite anymore.
Here's your tip: You're finished. Get over it.
Another piece in the puzzle as to why Rudy like to play "big girl" and wear dresses perhaps?
To those defending Giuliani ‘choice of friends’ and ragging on C&L for posting this:
Get a fuckin grip on reality.
Giuliani made Kerick Commissioner of the NYPD.
Giuliani hired Alan Placa after the Catholic church kicked his perv ass to the curb.
If Giuliani were elected president who’s he gonna make Secretary of State?
Who’s he gonna put in charge over at DOD?
This is VERY relevant!!
I wouldn't be suprised if it ever turned out that Guiliani was involved in something similar after learning about the franklin coverup. Senators/politicians/scum are worst than fucking caligula.
more like Ghouliani!
Rudy is a scumbag - in his personal life and his professional life. The post just shines a light on one of the MANY facets of Rudy being a scumbag... a successful scumbag, but scum none the less...
Why would it not surprise me to learn that Rudy was into ritualistic child abuse?
Geez, Rudy's locked up with the Mafia and the Catholic Pedophiles.
If he just joined the Crazy-Christian-Evangelical-Fundamentalist-Rapture-Freaks, and converted to NeoCon-Zionist Judaism, he'd have the election wrapped up.
Now THAT'D be a family-value administration.
Never trust a guy with a comb-over. This instantly means they are willing to lie to you.
words to live by
Are there any major white criminals on the East coast Ghouliani doesn't have close personal ties with. This man must be stopped.
And here it is I thought he was just a liar, racist, criminal-coddler, wife-abuser, war-monger, fear-monger, hypocrite and republiscum.
Boy! Was I wrong! :lol:
Rudy was the priests favorite love interest.
Innocent until proven guilty. Accused is not the same as convicted.
That photo of RudyG looks like a Norman Rockwell painting.
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Echoing earlier comments, this doesn't seem to be particularly valid.
Bringing up stuff regarding Vitter is completely justified, considering his
"family values"-jargon and the fact that he was personally responsible for his own actions. He deserves any scorn coming his way.
Rudy deserves scorn for his policies, his poor judgement before and after 9/11, but not for this sort of thing. This is the sort of crappy partisan "reporting" that I see heralded on sights like Huffington Post (and regularly on Fox News.) I expect more from C&L.
Herbert @ 95:
Sorry! I disagree!
Rudy looks more like Gollum! :lol:
Hey, i hate child molesting priests about as much as i hate Giuliani - but we can't start going after people because of crap like this. First, it's a logical fallacy to judge someone by who they know. Second, everybody knows a lot of douchebags, it's not like our side doesn't have it's share of people with questionable moral character. Lastly, we are supposed to be the side with some sense - and, as a student of criminology, we need to allow people BACK in our society after committing a crime, we need to allow them to reform and become productive members of society - and that INCLUDES molester priests. We're supposed to be the party and people with compassion and the intelligence to look beyond flaws and emotions and act with logic, not attack someone based on their friends.
Besides, there are a lot of reasons to hate that snaggle-toothed douche without falling prey to logical fallacy - off the top of my head, how about his mishandling of September 11th? I wish someone would ask him why if he is such a great leader, the NYPD salaries were a joke while he was mayor, and are STILL among the lowest in the nation.
emi's right it was Manhattan College not Manhattanville. Sloppy journalism. BTW: Manhattan College is where Father Bruce Ritter founder of Covenant House in NYC and known pederast enconsed is favorite boys.
Manhattan had quite the reputation in the 70s, 80s and 90s
You are missing the point, Giuliani supporters. Giuliani stands by this priest 100%, even though 4 children came forward detailing how they were abused by Placa during their childhood; yet Rudy continues to deny that Placa every did anything wrong.
Placa works for Giuliani Partners, inc.
Why?
Giuliani got rid of Kerik as soon as allegations against him surfaced. Why keep Placa? Oh yeah, I forgot. Placa helped Giuliani annul his marriage to his cousin Regina Peruggi. It all makes sense now.
One reader argued that because Placa has not been convicted, he's innocent. Wrong. The reason why he cant be convicted is because the statute of limitations expired, meaning that even if Placa is proven to have molested these kids, it happend so long ago that the law keeps him from being locked up. The Suffolk District Attorney had overwhelming evidence against him, including hte testimony of four adults who were close to Placa during their childhood.
Giuliani has no morals.
I agree. This kind of cheap, sleezy, guilty-by-association, tabloid style hit piece is fitting of what they do on the Right, and I hate to see it from our side.
Now if Rudy had been caught participating in anything, that would be a different story. Otherwise this is a bottom-feeding kind of stuff.
Placa was Dean of Students at St Pius X while Sean Hannity was a student there.
And you'd think that Fixed Noise would make use of his inside knowledge...
C'mon, Rudy has so many REAL things to be criticized for, why the FAUX NEWS piece? Seriously. Real news please.
But.. but!.. September 11th!
Close ties?
Just how Close?
Does it have anything to do with Rudy's dress?
GOP.........Grand Old Pedophiles
Nate @ 2:
And not a bad one of the perv priest. He looks like he's just seen the new altar boy.
I agree with M-dog, Guliani is a opertunist asshole, but he's not condoning child molestation. If our goal is to change the quality of the media spin cycle, we need to stay away stretchy smears.
The left has a real opertunity to pull some folks from the middle who are tired of the right wing continuing to lower the bar for our political discourse, and this kinda shit is not going to help the cause.
emi @ 22:
He did go to Manhattan College, but I guess even they don't want him anymore!
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