Stu Bykofsky hopes for another terrorist attack on America to bring back the good old days
Yes folks---as 9/11 approaches, expect more and more of these odious op-eds to be written.
Funny how he fails to point out that America was unified until we were lied to repeatedly by this administration which used charlatans as witnesses. And all the war hawks in our media propped up as much terror as they could articulate so that the country feared a nuclear attack by Saddam more than life itself and we just had no choice but to invade a country that never attacked us. The right wing blogs try to perpetuate this fear every chance they get and like Malkin, they get upset when a bridge collapses in Minesota and the government quickly rules out terrorism....And so it goes...
America's fabric is pulling apart like a cheap sweater.
What would sew us back together?
Another 9/11 attack.
The Golden Gate Bridge. Mount Rushmore. Chicago's Wrigley Field. The Philadelphia subway system. The U.S. is a target-rich environment for al Qaeda.
Is there any doubt they are planning to hit us again?
If it is to be, then let it be. It will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America's righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail.
He misses the unity Osama's attack instilled in our land and what better way to regain those warm and fuzzy jingoistic feelings highlighted by American flags being sold at twenty bucks a pop on street corners like Hollywood Star maps so we could hoist them on our cars. Those were the days. I wonder if Stu will volunteer to be the first person killed in an attack so that in his mind his death will serve the purpose he so longs for...stubyko@phillynews.com (be gentle) I'm sure Will Bunch can't be thrilled right now...(h/t Brady)
Dear Stu,
You have a column in a Philadelphia paper, and you are capable of writing "A bastard so sick of how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq - that we have forgotten who the enemy is" without some kind of sentence-construction alarm going off?
Do you think Americans are perhaps sick of the war because it was based on false pretenses, fought with Katrina-like incompetence, and has in fact made us far less safe than we were before we eliminated Iran's arch-enemy and supplied Al Qaeda with a new breeding ground, complete with a large percentage of the Earth's remaining oil and a major population of Jews within easy driving distance?
No, of course you don't think that. You're the guy who forgot what the first half of a sentence said by the time you'd gotten to the second half. You've long since forgotten anything that happened before breakfast.
Stay well. I teach ESL, by the way, if you would like to contact me about rates.
--Steve Davis
Hell, lets just nuke Russia and China, which will have us all holding hands again… in a bomb shelter.
Isn't that like saying, "Bring it on"? I think this guy should be tarred & feathered.
Insanity knows no boundaries. There should be a change in the constitution regarding this type of comment... oh wait, what consititution?
Hmmm after 5 years of failing to secure our borders and our ports that "righteous rage" might be focused on those that failed to protect us; the Republicans.
here's another "bomb Mecca" proponent.
Can this guy be prosecuted for inciting the call for a terrorist attack? He sure sounds like he wants to see another one. That sounds like treason to me. To Gitmo with him!
What a stupid, ignorant column . . . we need this (another 9/11) so we can have a "fast food war" that American people will like - just like the Gulf War I? What trash from an denialist remainderman of the Bush Cheney worship cult.
then let it be
Well, color me green and give me a spanking, this guy is a defaitist for sure.
Then again, sacrificing some people for the feeling of national unity is a time honored pasttime.
Can get rightwingers to stand on the streets and yell
"Ein Land, ein Volk, ein Führer"
Bud wrote: "Can this guy be prosecuted for inciting the call for a terrorist attack? "
Hell, he offered suggestions to the terrorists: "The Golden Gate Bridge. Mount Rushmore. Chicago’s Wrigley Field. The Philadelphia subway system."
Considering Al Qaeda has been traditionally fixated on New York City and D.C., I would say this prick is actually trying to help the terrorists find a good target.
Byko writes: "It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O'Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their hideous sins, including blowing up women and children." Never noting that it is the Bush Admin who use the fear of such terrorist acts to divide Americans - and the rest of the world for that matter - into a "with us or with the terrorist" simplistic dichotomy. Byko asks, "What will sew us back together?" Another 9/11 we don't need. We need better leadership.
Better than volunteering himself to die in the desired attack, perhaps he could volunteer a loved one -- a wife, child, etc.
What an ignorant and twisted man.
Maybe the rise of a new Hitler will bring the world together too.
We can only hope!
Sweet Jeebus, the nation is full of crackpots.
-GSD
Nothing brings together the family like a funeral. Now, if we can just decide which elderly relative needs to die so that we can all get together and chat next to the coffin. Sure, it's a shame someone will have to die, but isn't it worth it so that we can catch up on what's going on in cousin Bob's life?
I am tired of the 'Americans have no patience for a long war" canard. Yes we do, if it is justified and executed competently.
Sooo, according to this logic, if a member of his family were
a victim of a random act of murder, he should rejoice that
his family would be brought closer together?
I would think not. But then, these people don't have
a brain to think with spewing that kind of evil.
Heard about this while my dad (I've tried to stop this, but it's not happening) was watching FOX & Friends this morning. They were trying to label the guy as a radical librel along the same lines as Kos and others.
How do you ask your government to dress up some allies and have them come a whoopin' and a hollerin, just to sell their brand of cheese?
What good old days?
Which reminds me, a republican politician in Kansas? was one of KO's worst some weeks back for saying the same thing I believe, with needing another 9/11 to silence the liberals.
Unbelievable! To be nostalgic for 9/11?!!!!! Just when you thought republicans couldn't sink any lower.
Surely another attack on the homeland would fracture the US beyond repair? You would have the chickenhawks saying "See! See! I told you so!", but then the other side would be "WTF have you been DOING this past 6 years?!? All the liberties lost, all that money into Homeland Security, and they STILL get through?!?"
Bye bye unity...
DHavok @ 16:
From his bio:
He "supports human rights", yet wants people killed?! Seriously.... WTF is wrong with this guy?!?! >:-(
How. Freaking. Pathetic.
My family doesn't always get along, but I don't wish that someone would get hit by a truck so we all could experience the fleeting moments of unity and reflectiveness that comes when someone close to you passes.
We don't need another 9/11. We need someone who can lead us somewhere other than over a cliff.
And if we were attacked, who the hell does this clown suggest we send over to fight them?
Apparently he doesn't read the papers much. The army well is about dry. It'll take probably a decade just to re-equip and get them back to the combat readiness of pre-Iraq.
".....restore America’s righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail."
The mantra of the all war all the time crowd.
With unity and peace the reich wing dies. They can't let that happen.
So if your family is all involved in a big family feud, you should shoot one of the family members so the family will unite to mourn the death?
In the past six years, we have lost about about 250,000 people to traffic accidents and about 3000 people to terrorists. Can we get some perspective here?! I am sick to death of the John Wayne crowd being so terrified of being hit by lightning that they're willing to panic us into multiple wars just to quell their inner quaking.
Anything but Mr. Rushmore...!
xand316 wrote: "I am tired of the ‘Americans have no patience for a long war” canard. Yes we do, if it is justified and executed competently."
I've been saying for a while that Bush has nobody to blame but himself for Americans losing patience with his war. It was a foreseeable outcome to starting a war based on complete horseshit. In other words, Bush himself is the primary cause of American disillusionment.
I read this to mean: "We need another 9/11 so Bush can regain his mojo." Sorry Stu, but I think another 9/11 type of attack might just backfire on the Bush Administration at this point. People are so cynical of Bush due to his constant lies regarding the war on terror that the first thought in their minds (and mine for that matter) will be that his Administration deliberately set it up or participated in the attack in order to rally the American people behind him.
On the other hand, those that still believe in the Bush Administration will also doubt Bush's leadership as another 9/11 style attack on the United States would remove the one pillar that continues to keep their support. If another attack where to occur Bush can no longer say that his foreign policies (I.E. we have to fight them over there) or domestic policies (I.E. illegal wiretapping) had any effect what so ever. In other words, Bush's supporters will see him as even more incompetent than before.
What a complete AH!!! If it does happen (I hope nothing like 9/11 ever happens again but if it does, may it occur right next to where he is.....
I'm sick of these mouth-breathers getting job after job in the media. They have a disdain for everything that isn't perpetual war that their own kids aren't fighting
DHavok @ 16:
Heh ... A visitor over at Think Progress was also vehemently attempting to claim the guy is a 'liberal.' Whatever. The concept of his piece is 'neocon-ish.' More to the point, it's madness. The guy sounds like a lunatic; his sentiments are sociopathic, really. As GSD said: Sweet Jebus.
The Golden Gate Bridge. Mount Rushmore. Chicago’s Wrigley Field. The Philadelphia subway system. The Philadelphia Daily News buildingBlue Buddha @ 22:
This guy is probably a Lieberman "liberal". That's all I can figure.
Lets try that again...
The Golden Gate Bridge. Mount Rushmore. Chicago’s Wrigley Field. The Philadelphia subway system. The Philadelphia Daily News building
Yeah, Philly would make a great target, home of the Constitution and all.
Given all the other lies we've been told by the sitting administration, I'm not totally convinced that we have only Osama to blame for 9/11. Anyone that feels that Bush/Cheney have our best interests at heart is a fool. Someone just like Stu Bykofsky who longs for another attack in order to increase their personal (pretended?) rage. Rage that they would not act on in a way that would be useful like, for instance, doing something other than using tough words and rage inspiring comments.
Gort @ 36:
Republican National Convention...
where do these fuckers come from? surely they're not born of a soul.
they must be 'manufactured' automatons from some secret underground
bio lab.
Wasn't there an Editor of the Newspaper? I mean, this is just plain ridiculous to let an article like this go by/
The The Philadelphia Daily News should be penalized for publishing articles that create panic.
Norse @ 8:
LOL. Then these Ubermenschen can follow up with a stirring rendition of the Horst Wessel Lied.
What would Unify the Country is for TRUTH to break out.
As a Delaware Valley resident I can truely say that Stu is a douchebag..
yup - just what america needs / wants: more bloodshed.
this country isn't "on its way" to being a war-mongering fascist state: its already there.
He's not the only one who thinks that way. It was obvious the night that of the bridge collapse in Minneapolis that Michelle Malkin, and many commenters on her site, were disappointed that it was not a terrorist attack.
Stu Bykofsky
I just read your editorial where you fantasize about terrorists attacking America and suggest a few targets for them to hit and other helpful advice.
Your grammar and sentence structure sucks. You should have at least have finished High School.
But beyond that, you are giving aid and comfort to our enemies. You are conspiring with terrorists. Perhaps you are a member of Al Queada? Are you?
In olden days, such talk would've had you marched to the gallows and hanged until dead. These days we ship traitors like you off to Guantanamo and torture them endlessly for fun. Though I don't believe that anyone deserves a lifetime of torture, our administration seems to think that people like qualify.
You should be careful what you write. During Vietnam, one of the events that is little mentioned, is that returning soldiers started sniping at people who were cheerleading the war. They killed a few people, shot up some congressional limos, wounded some congressional aids and were never caught.
As this war rages on, don't make yourself a target for some veteran who has lost everything and is looking for someone to take it on.
Your public fantasies about slaughtering Americans, could very well get you in hot water with unstable patriotic Americans. You should think twice before publically announcing that you are siding with enemies of America.
it's that cursed chertoff stomach virus.
or some of the crazy rubbed off of santorum....
i was keeping track of all of these quivering jerkoffs, but so many of them have called for a jihad against america as punishment for not suppporting them that i lost track. there were several others in their ranks joining the conservative terrorist/reich wing jihad brigade...
Wait, is this guy a PNAC member? I didn't see his name listed the last time people called for a major terror attack. Like it or not, this guy's dream will come true by next spring, followed by blame placed directly on the Democrats, and that blame will come right out of the mouth of GWB.
If one is muslim and utters the words: "I hope there is an attack on the US brought by Allah so Americans shut the fuck up." That would get him canned in jail faster than a College Republican sprinting away from an enlistment form.
Yet, a conservative mouthpiece can say: "I hope there is an attack on the US so that everyone just shuts the fuck up and does as they are told." And no one will lift a finger against him.
I fact a liberal mouth piece could say: "I hope there is an attack on the US so that Americans can be made aware of the incompetence of this administration and the catastrophic failures that have made us mode vulnerable." And you would not hear the end of it on FAUX news calling for the public execution for such a traitor to the crown... err I mean the country.
Good old days? How about 1929? Go to any financial web page and watch the train wreck happening on Wall Street in real time. Wealth transfer in progress.
Digg this story. Maybe the author will lose his job if enough attention is drawn to his idiocy.
http://digg.com/politics/Stu_Bykofsky_Says_To_save_America_we_need_anoth...
If you want to see what Stu Bykofsky looks like, just look up the word PUTZ in the dictionary, his picture will be there.
Norse @ 8:
This would-be Fuehrer, perhaps? What's that saying about when the pupil is ready, the teacher will appear? I guess for these guys, it's "When the slave is ready, the master will appear."
"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do. "
- Rudy Giuliani.
Let The Daily News know what you think about Stu's call for the murder of 1000's of more people.
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Bud @ 6:
Yes. Anyone can be prosecuted, if The Decider wants them prosecuted. Prosecuted? Wait a minute-really no need for a trial-he's guilty. See MCA of '06.
this guy should be arrested for calling for a terrorist attack and letting the terrorists know of good targets.
oh and if there is another attack on america, that means the ridiculous shit bush is doing to stop them isnt working, which will only make the chipmunks louder.
John, your comment "...what better way to regain those warm and fuzzy jingoistic feelings highlighted by American flags being sold at twenty bucks a pop on street corners like Hollywood Star maps so we could hoist them on our cars." is right on. I've come to despise the American Flag (shown outside homes, on lapels, cars, etc. to show "patriotism") almost as much as those "Support the Troops" bumper stickers!
Could it be that Stu was throwing up a tasty metaphor, albiet not in the grandest literary tradition, but a metaphor nonetheless? Could it be that the call for 'another 9/11' is that metaphor? Could it be that he is trying to make a point that all most people know how to do is argue these days? If you're not on my side, you're on the wrong side? Could it be? Just thinking out loud.
Most people agree there WILL be another big terrorist attack... but wouldn't you at least PREFER it happened under Bush's watch, than under the next president, (probably a democrat)? Cause don't you think if it happens under the next president's watch, ALL the right-wing wackos will proclaim: "See, we republicans knew how to PROTECT YOU, but the democrats don't take terrorism seriously..."
But let's not forget that 9/11 happened under Bush's watch, yet Clinton and the democrats seem to get most of the blame.
Gort @ 51:
The last stages of the smash and grab looting of America are in progress. Why had Dick Cheney put so much of his financial holdings overseas?
Why did Halliburton move their corporate offices to Dubai?
-GSD
CantankerousDave @ 54:
"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do. "
- Rudy Giuliani.
whoa. that's about as orwellian doublespeak as one could get...
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
-- George W. Bush (August 5, 2004)
There's nothing worse than a rightwing White Sox fan.
so this is it...only more dead Americans will make republicans happy. heck of a job repugy!
GSD @ 61:
Because Dubai is fucking nuts! The city is booming like crazy and is already home to the only 7 star hotel in the world. Future plans: the world's largest mall, the world's tallest skyscraper, and an amusement park that will easily dwarf Disney World ten times over. Why are they doing this? Because the Prince of UAE isn't stupid: he knows that when the oil in his country runs out, there will be nothing left for the country to offer except tourism.
And I bet you that Cheney has a one way ticket to Dubai scheduled to leave on 01/21/09.
Blue Buddha @ 66:
BTW... if you want to know where all of your hard earned tax dollars are going... just look at Dubai.
Terror’s immense unbent machine rumbles
From end to end of the blast-crested streets
Of civilized man like a freshly-filed talon to flesh;
And the screeching recoils against the red sky
And the plagued ocean smolders.
Terror’s depth is roused
By lies and the spineless realm
Of authority
Pointing eastward with a westward hand.
We, insensible spectator, stand open-mouthed
To the eagle’s rasp upon our human face;
And the snap of the shudder, too slow,
Find terror rooted shoulder to shoulder,
Glossy eyed, draped in ruin,
Panting to soar heavenward
And spatter the face of God.
.....We can no more this
.....Than return to the womb.
Copyright © 2006 mrp / thepoetryman
LOL! That's like saying a cancer survivor needs to fight another round of cancer, to remind them how good they felt the first time they beat it.
This guy Stu is a raving assclown and should be fired immediately. Good lord, and I thought Jeff Jacoby of the Boston Globe was an ignoramus!!!!
Once again, anyone feeling this way should immediately go to their local army recruiter and sign up. This indivdual should be used as a human IED sweeper.
It seems to me that this country is as "united" as it has been for a long time. Thankfully, we are united against the pathetically stupid Bush and chronically evil Cheney and the Republicans who can't stop licking their Tony Lamas. All it took was the deaths of 3600 - and counting - American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians. That's "unity" for you.
I JUST TALKED to Stu on the phone - personally, him and me. His first argument was this question to me "Was Pearl Harbor good for America or not?" My answer was no...his retort was that if Pearl Harbor never happened then an isolationist US would have never entered WWII. The non-logic of that was starting to scramble my brain. He asked if I thought the US would have entered WWII? Yes was my answer and then I had to put a stop to this WWII bullshit line of defense and call him out for wishing another terrorist attack wherein he started whining about "If a terrorist attack is inevitable" in the US again, then unfortunately it may as well be used to unite the country. My reply to this was that YES the attack on 9/11/01 united the coutnry but it was the ineptitude and of the administration and their response and consequent screw-ups and raping of the constitution that divided the country (and very civily so he wouldn't hang up) I told him that he was 100% wrong for wishing for an attack and to use the energy to help remove this administration. He said he wrote what he wrote to start a discussion and I said there are other ways to do that without wishing for innocent people to be killed. He thanked me for being civil and daid he had to go because his "phone was rining off the hook" and I said, no shit...other people aren't going to be so civil. You are in for a world of it.
He is an utter shithead and he deserves to be fired if that's what happens to him.
He is welcome to be as delusional as he wants just leave Wrigley out of the mix.People like this can't see America as anything other than a victim of one threat or another.These are the same people who are always being persecuted by the left.
It's funny (well, not really) that these people seem to think that if we were attacked again, the public would rally together to SUPPORT Bush, rather than another attack being seen as THE MOST GI-NORMOUS PROOF OF FAILURE! That after 6 years, letting OBL escape at Tora Bora, pulling troops out of Afghanistan to invade Iraq, and $600 BILLION in tax dollars and 3700 dead soldiers lives spent to protect us from a country with no WMD's... that we would all rush to tremble beneath the skirt of George W. Bush???
L.A. Confidential @ 63:
Yeah, I LOL when I originally heard that quote.
Ain't it the truth?!?!
How about this Stu? Let's get all the family members of those killed on 9/11 together in one place and have you stand up in front of them and try out this idea?
How do you think THAT would go over?
Stu is basically a harmless old dude who has been writing columns about cheesesteaks, martinis, and dinner theater for the last two hundred years or so. In his mind Frank Rizzo is still the Mayor, Nixon is still in the White House, and smokes are still a dollar a pack.
Somehow he feels the need to be the stereotypical "I used to be Liberal" ancient old Jewish guy, like my father-in-law and perhaps like yours. I take comfort in knowing that I can silence Bykofsky by turning the page. I wished that worked for my wife's father.
Gort @ 36:
I'm sure Blackwater Inc. has taken all these possible sites into consideration. Now they're just waiting for their final (solution) orders from shadow president cheney.
So I'm assuming he would sacrifice himself and those he loves for this cause. After all, he's HOPING PEOPLE WILL DIE VIOLENTLY and why? Well, maybe because there are more and more of us that believe this is all a HUGE sham.
Stu and his ilk are unspeakably evil. I'm just glad they're stupid enough to speak their minds.
Blue Buddha @ 67:
You all can't be so naive, and no, my tax dollars are going to pork barrel projects and being redistributed by politicians of both parties. You are funding the building of Dubia, a VERY inconvenient truth. What have you done to not line the pockets of the Sheiks in Dubia? Stopped unnecessary driving? Changed to a hybrid? Installed solar panels or wind power to keep your over-sized American home warm in the winter and cool in the summer? Given up your vacation, your SUV, changed all the light bulbs in your home or modified your life style in any way or are you do you still believe in uncontrolled consumption and a climate of entitlement? Stop blaming others for what no one wants to face...themselves...and, what is the Dem Congress approval rating now? 26% wow they really have made a difference even with the presidents dismal rating, its still higher?
Bill O'Reilly said last night, he faced combat in Latin America, with only a pen and notebook!
Good grief! Does the right-wing spin machine really think we are so stupid that we would allow them to tell us who to blame (ie Saddam) if we were attacked again? Well, I guess they know their base is that stupid.
We have seen how little regard Bushco has for us when we were 'attacked' on our soil by hurricane Katrina.
Tony Snow: Here's a heaping portion of double-think and some kool-aid to wash it down with.
Mt Rushmore? OMG!
If they could attack there, they could blow up the Grand Canyon next!
Aside from the tinfoil hat brigade that seems to have reared their ugly head once more...(Blackwater? Please...) It seems to me that this is a guy who wrote a column trying to focus on why it takes a tragedy such as 9/11 to unite people in this country. His style of writing can in no way be misinterpreted as good taste, but he does have a few good points. For instance this country does have a fast food mentality, i.e. if you cant win a war in 6 weeks, then what good are you? (Personal note to Stu, the Gulf War 1 didn't take 100 hrs. The ground invasion did from crossing the border to cease fire. The air war went on for 6 weeks prior to the ground invasion...and most of us were still in the desert for 6 months prior).
Give the guy a break. Could he have expressed his POV better, yes..., but I don't think anyone with half a brain is suggesting he actually wants another "9/11".
(P.S. to Stu...lay of the Cubs and Wrigley Field. We Cubs fans have enough problems as it is without you throwing that out there..... :-) )
Blue Rose @ 75:
Bush's Freudian Slip was showing.
Ruthless People @ 86:
More side splitting hand slap to the forehead Bushisms http://slate.com/id/76886/
Blue Buddha @ 66:
The Arab Financial system isn't under the new homeland security financial watch system. Homeland security can't search or freeze their accounts.
The Caribbean banking system has been undermined by the war on terror, and Dubai is now the safe place to put ill gotten assets. As its the last safe place in the world to hide money, it is a haven for money exchanges by wealthy drug lords, terrorist leaders and other crooks. If Osama Bin Laden is still alive, I'd bet he has a penthouse suite in that 7 Star Hotel.
If Stu wanted us to think his column was satire, then he did not communicate this at all.
If it was intended to be understood in the style of 'A Modest Proposal', then he missed it by country mile.
GMFORD @ 83:
Tell me about it!
These people actually think that if we were attacked again, we'd all suddenly support Bush, and not see another attack as evidence of failure.
their are many in this government who would and feel that people are expendable to gain their evil desires and 911 is a good example!
He's been reading the PNAC Playbook.
Since he was kind enough to leave his e-mail at the end, I think we should all send him notes requesting that he sacrifice himself and his entire family for the greater good.
Then I'll be impressed.
My theory all along was the "B/C Administration" was hoping for a strike to justify all the actions to date. Not knowing the severity of the actual, 9/11, attack. Now this chuckle-head is actually voicing it.
Bykofsky, GOP Arkansas Chairman Dennis Milligan, Dick Cheney, George Bush, PNAC and Advisors:
"GO F*CK YOURSELF"
U.S. Attorneys, Soldiers, Veterans, Senior Military Officials, Former National Intelligence analysis, CIA Patriots, Constitutional Lawyers, Former Reagan Administration Officials, Firefighters, New York City Law Officials know the Truth. THE FACTS.
"Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it."
I think ironically, if another huge terrorist attack occours on Der Homelahnd, the opposite may be true. It may just tear us a part rather than unify. It may lay to bear the abject incompetence and arrogance the GW administration has in regards to 'The War on Terror' (yuck. I still hate that name for a war).
Anyway, remember what Bush said so eloquently years ago? "Fool me once, shame on....shame on you....er, fool me, ya' cain't git fool'd r'geen, yuck, yuck, yuck".
Dangerous satire... Guys like him and Savage (congress tried to poison Justice Roberts) use this ambiguous satire that purposely feeds the rest of the wingnuts. "We're just joking..." but they underneath they really mean it.
He forgot the Oklahoma City Bombing Memorial. It sure would get those libruls off their high horse if somebody blew that up again. /snark/
Pardon me, Stu, but it seems that one attack has not had a very good effect on your country. How do you expect another to somehow work out for the better?
I doubt there's going to be another attack, personally. Why would they need to? Their goals were achieved with just that one attack. I bet they couldn't believe their luck at having such a bunch of inept losers running the government at that time. They couldn't have enjoyed such massive success without them.
Now all they need to do is sit back and watch the US continue to (literally) fall apart.
It's sad.
myiq2xu @ 84:
No big deal, God could put it back the way it was in less than 7 days.
In 1943, someone was probably writing about how Germany needed another Reichstag Fire.
I guess that would make Osama a hero in his eyes, and would make Stu a traitor in my eyes.
Weaseldog @ 47:
Hey Weaseldog - Well stated.
Stu obviously is not seeing the outrage that people feel about the illegal war in Iraq and the trashing of the Constitution by this White House.
Stu is on the Bill O'Lielly radio hack show right now........"This is not a satire" were his exact words.
Shorter Bykofsky:
"Unite with us or die."
Not much of a choice.
Okay.
#1, they weren't that good of days.
#2, if there's another terrorist attack it will blatantly prove that the Bush administration has not been able to protect us from terrorism ...that their strategy is not working ...that the good ole days did not work.
#3, if there's another 9/11-style attack, I think (because of reason #2) the country is more likely to be united AGAINST the president, and maybe find a better approach to reducing terrorism than killing a bunch of Muslims.
Well, here's what I wrote to ol' Stu:
Stu,
"Sick bastard". You hit the nail right on the head. Hard to tell if
you're being purposefully controversial, or if you really believe what
you're writing. Let's assume the latter:
If you think an attack on this country would be a good thing, would
serve in any way at this point to unify it, you're a) a traitor
to the nation and b) seriously, criminally deluded.
You're advocating an attack on the United States. Because it might change
the political landscape. Of course, it wouldn't, but you think 'what the
hell - another attack on this country would be JUST the thing right now'.
Righteous rage? You're grossly overstating the threat posed by
terrorists, and you're pining for the death of Americans. For political
gain.
People who stoke fear for political advantage are terrorists. That's the
definition of 'terrorist'.
*YOU* are the enemy. The threat we face from idiots like you far
outweighs anything we suffered on 9/11, or might suffer in the future.
You say 'We knew who the enemy was shortly after 9/11.'. Well, if that's
the case, why'd we attack Iraq? A nation that by the President's own
admission had nothing to do with 9/11?
People believe Iraq was a mistake because it's quite clear now that we
were lied in to it.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself. You're not a patriot; rather, the
opposite.
we just need to sit back and keep our eyes open for any
coordinated "Drills" in multiple cities. Then we'll know
when the hammer is gonna fall.
in order for his view of the world to succeed there needs to be a terrorist attack on the US.
GEE, isn't that what osama thinks too.
this guy is dangerous. get the nsa on this guy. throw him in gitmo. suspend his habeous corpus rights.
torture him.....he might know something.
We were united after 9/11, then the evil people running things divided our nation like it has never been before, using that event to do evil things both here and abroad. The only thing that is now united is the world against us.
It's pretty sad that he thinks the only way we can get something good to happen here is by first having a few thousand people die in a violent attack. Are we really that lost as a nation that we can only be united by a common hatred? Why can't we do things, like get national health care, for the common good because it is the right thing to do without anyone having to be martyred first?
I think a second major terrorist attack may be necessary. There are significant sections of the U.S constitution that remain unshredded and the public seems to be getting a little balky at using 911 to finish it off.
Damnable scumbag.
Peter G. @ 111:
Is it time for Dick Cheney to burn down the RNC Headquarters?
Here's my letter to Stu....
Mr. Bykofsky,
With all due respect, your column from yesterday has to be one of the dumbest articles with the most twisted logic I've ever read. You would prefer to have a country blindly united by "righteous rage" at the "hideous sins" of women and children being blown up than have to see and hear people debating politics and issues? That is truly the product of a very sick individual. I'll give you credit, though....at least you can admit it, as you do in the second line of your column.
As far as Iraq goes, Americans may not be against it because they are "anti-war," but most who are against it are not against it because it has gone on too long. That is a pretty simplistic assumption. I would argue most are against it because they are anti-unnecessary-war, as should any decent human being be. As it has become clearer to most Americans that we were misled into Iraq by an administration bent on attacking Iraq by any means possible, they have realized this war was not necessary and, as a result, has caused a lot of unnecessary suffering, both for the members and families of the US military and Iraqis in general. To now wish for more death and destruction in the US just to quiet and stifle verbal debate and bickering is nothing short of crazy. It's one thing to believe or know it will probably eventually happen, but quite another to wish for it.
The truth is, no matter how united this country has ever been, there has always been political disagreement and debate. Furthermore, democracy - true democracy - does not and cannot exist without it. I will take what you label "endless sideshow squabbles" any time over the horror we all witnessed on Spetmber 11, 2001.
Both Sides of the story @ 81:
I work from home. I never owned an SUV. I'm in walking distance from most places I eat and shop, and I'm very close to public transportation. I have 10 year old compact car that I drive so little that I only have to fill it up once... maybe twice a month at the absolute most, fuck you very much.
Dick Cheney did tell us that he knows we will be attacked soon, and he knows that the attack will be nuclear.
I think it is clear that he has inside information about the attack. Who will carry out the attack. How the attack will be carried out. And why the Bush administration will not move to prevent it.
The enemy of world peace is American Foreign Policy.
Incursion, subversion, manipulation and colonization are the weapons.
The hungry, destitute and impoverished are the first victims.
Our American armed forces (they're not troops, but human beings with families, aspirations and creativity) used as dispensable tools are the second.
Our civil rights, optimism, trust in each other, our jobs and infrastructure, are further victims.
We know were they are... The perpetrators are at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. And North, South, East and West somewhat.
Can we regain our optimism? That is an unknowable, unknown, that maybe no one who thinks they know can know. I do wish Al would run though.
And, Yes, I did more than whine. I called upon the editor to fire this sick son-of-a-bitch immediately.
You too...
http://www.philly.com/philly/about/contact_list/I'm sure New York will never see a pandemonium like the reunited Spice Girls coming in concert.
Oooh baby...do it...do it...do it all....
Weaseldog @ 88:
Yeah... funny how the financial clusterfucks that were put into place to stop the terrorists is clogging up the financial networks to everywhere in the world except where the terrorist are coming from. It's sort of like invading Iraq and being pals with the Saudis because someone from Saudi Arabia killed 3,000 people on our soil.
Translation:
Wasn't it great when we had you all scared enough to do everything we told you? Ahh the good old days.
will there be yellow stars on our camp uniforms?
Hoping that another terrorist attack here would unite our nation is like a couple with a fracturing relationship hoping that a baby will unite them; it works until the shock of it all wears off, then it's worse than before. We need to fix our country by addressing our nation's problems.
Why didn't Katrina unite our nation? Why doesn't the slow death of our economy, the American middle class dream, and our Constitution unite our nation?
monsters like bykofsky are too simple-minded and blood-thirsty to realize that the america flag is just a symbol.
the american flag, pre-bush, represented a nation founded on the constitutional principles of liberty, justice and equality. but when bush & co trampled upon our constitution and treated its principles like quaint trivialities, they destroyed our best vision of ourselves, the very idea of "we the people".
still, we are not chipmunks to be blown up or poisoned to serve his vision of amerika.
"What kind of a sick bastard would write such a thing?" No, not a sick bastard, a completed and perfect asshole... you, Stu
Ok, I sent this off...
I just read Stu Bykofsky's editorial, 'To save America, we need another 9/11'.
I was sickened to hear his arguments as to why our nation needs another 9/11. And his evident pride in calling for thousands of innocent Americans to be slaughtered for political purposes.
Can I assume that this is your paper's position on the matter, that you wish aid and abet terrorists in the destruction of America? Do you think his advice to terrorists as to what targets to hit, is something you want to stand behind?
President Goerge Bush built Guantanamo Bay so that people like Stu who work with terrorists can be tortured endlessly for the rest of our lives. I don't believe in torture, but we live in a time where our nation does. If Stu keeps this up, he may soon find himself in a government institution, screaming for mercy while guards laugh and torture him for weeks on end.
Do him a favor, fire him before he goes so far that the CIA sees the need to rendition him along with some of his fellow employees.
And please help us put an end to the madness this country is declining into. You paper's calls for a terror attack on the US and you support of people who fantasize about the slaughter of thousands of innocent Americans, is not making this country a safer place.
People who get a thrill on such things as the slaughter of other human beings as Stu clearly does, needs psychiatric attention. Please, don't encourage this sick and demented behavior.
Smack_dab @ 122:
I see the connection, but it's more accurately, hoping that a baby's death will bring the couple together. As I understand it, when mother's kill their babies, it is usually to get attention. Sometimes they tells us that they did it because they were afraid of losing their husbands.
This seems to be almost exactly the same sort of sick emotional drive.
Stu is suffering from 'Munchuasen's By Proxy'. (sp?)
To: Inquirer.Letters@phillynews.com
Cc: stubyko@phillynews.com
Sent: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:49 am
Subject: Stu Bykofsky
Esteemed Editor:
Stu Bykofsky’s demented lust for more atrocity, slaughter, bloodshed, and destruction against our country merely confirms my worst suspicions about whatever remains of support for this most unfortunate Administration.
Perhaps, we should be grateful for this rare instance of honesty and transparency on the part of the Neo-Crazies who so poison the body politic of the great Republic.
You know we've reached rock bottom when someone who wishes death and destruction on Americans can use free speech to actually entice the very notion catastrophic events. It's akin to screaming fire in a movie theater when there is no fire. How do these people who should be more responsible sound so irresponsible get a voice for the world to hear? It's so wonder why politicians opine so much about terror. They may very well be inviting it because they talk about it sooo much. Shut about terror already and let us solve our squawbles through conversational discourse. We are "not" so divided as a country that we can't be reasoned with if we believe we are reasonable. I say more talk of catastrophe, will only serve to erode the trust we have in ourselves and our fellow man.
Anybody who writes something this irresponsible and odious in anything other than a discredited, fringe publication, should be fired. Simple as that. If the editors of whatever publication he writes for allow this kind of demented perspective to be published, then they and their publication should be discredited in their legitimacy of ethical and responsible reporting.
There's little doubt in my mind that Stu is short for Stupendously Stupid.
"He misses the unity Osama’s attack instilled in our land "
Do you really believe it was Osama? Do you really believe the official 9/11 story?
With respect and kindness,
Mike
lucid fiction @ 108:
The mainscream media will suppress it, but maybe this internet tubes thingy will be able to
shine some light on it. Until they take that away from us, anyway.
Weaseldog @ 116:
The only way this happens is if the U.S. and another government are in cahoots to let it happen. No way a loosely tied terrorist org pulls that off.
So if this turns out to be the case, it won't happen until a Dem President is in office.
If you're wondering where to send your comments, don't waste your time sending them to Stu(pid)'s e-mail address, send them to the newspaper editor. This man should be fired.
Readers can comment on today's editorials by phone at 215-854-5060 or e-mail editor@phillynews.com.
Remember, you don't have to be nice, but you do have to be civil.
So, Malkin and Stu and Bushie and Cheney and the others who want an attack must have some sexual hangup about it. How else to explain the spooging over the thought of another attack?
Those kind of sickos exist in every age, pining for action that they conveniently aren't anywhere near, but they expect others to die in so they can get their rocks off watching it.
Sick. Sick.
[Deleted. Way to long and a conspiracy theory to boot]
"a conservative is a former liberal who has been mugged...twice."
Jason wrote: "His first argument was this question to me “Was Pearl Harbor good for America or not?” My answer was no…his retort was that if Pearl Harbor never happened then an isolationist US would have never entered WWII. "
I'm impressed you talked to the guy, and that you managed to remain civil! :) The Pearl Harbor analogy is really, really, flawed on his part, because it implicitly assumes that the ONLY way to get the U.S. involved in WWII was to have Pearl Harbor happen exactly as it did. That's a pretty huge goddamned assumption, considering we have only one version of history to work with. Hell, I'm sure if we had been warned in advance of the attack on PH and managed to shoot down all the incoming Japanese planes without a single loss of an American life, we still would have been pissed enough to go to war - and might have won it much faster, to boot. Similarly, if he's so convinced that the country is divided now, why doesn't he use his stunning intellect to think of fantasies to unify it which don't involve murdering U.S. citizens?
PROUD AMERICAN @ 135:
With respect to the comment moderator. Why is it inappropiate to discuss a disbelief in the official 9/11 story? We need to keep asking tough questions. This tragedy cleared the ground for the DOJ scandal and just about every other woe we have been dealt since. No 9/11 and there would be no Iraq war no haliburton looting, no domestic spying, etc. Please do not shut down this important dialogue. Unless this site officially buys and supports the gov't account of 9/11. Then I would understand the stifling of this conversation.
I love C&L. Thank you for your time and consideration.
With respect and kindness.
Mike
Site Monitor: It is site policy (and has been for some time) not to allow the discussion of alternative 9/11 theories. It is not to advocate one theory over another. However, whenever said discussion is allowed, the entire site gets hijacked by competing theories and the other posters get abused and the whole site goes down. There are plenty of sites that do want that discussion. This is not one of them.
Maybe he can take them to the places he wants them to attack. He's obviously got a list.
And I'm sure what he means by "it will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America’s righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail" is that no one is falling for the Cons' bullshit anymore and that's what has him riled.
It seems to me they're pissed because the last attacks only almost gave them unlimited power. Next time they'll get it right though.
Proud American has a point. So far, the only people to get anything out of the attacks have been the Cons and their cronies in "Big Oil."
scruzman @ 136:
there is some truth to that....i know that i've wavered on the death penalty several times
Brawlin_Dem @ 140:
all the rest are just football fans who think they are in on the game but are just fooling themselves. they are being taken just like the rest of us.
hey, stu! you forgot PHILADELPHIA. does "liberty" ring any bells?
Followed the link, read the entire article and have decided the man is dumb as a rock. Unless of course the author is a third grader. Then one might credit him with a good attempt to grasp things that are too complicated for the author's maturity. Alas, the article was published, and I suppose expected to be respected as commentary. So, where did this journalist go to school and who exactly thinks he has something to say of any import?
Quell the chattering eh? And like there won't be more chattering chipmunks saying after an attack that the eavesdropping and torture and illegal wars this administration has engaged in was nothing more than a rape of liberties and a waste of human life. I suppose this dunce is one of the "we havent been attacked in 6 years so it's working" crowd?
What a fuckin tool.
It's letters like this that reinforce my belief that it will be a radical right-wing Bush-bot who commits the next terrorist attack on US soil.
And by the way, to save America a 9/11 that only affects these knuckle draggers would suffice.
hug the moon @ 138:
Thank you for the detailed feedback. This makes sense. I noticed certain frustration at some other MSB's (Mainstream Blogs) as well. This must be why. Again thanks for your time and reasonable explanation. C&L provides a great site! Keep it up.
I certainly hope that he is being closely monitored by some kind of real law enforcement because it sure sounds like he is one of bin Ladins lieutenants!
carefulwiththatAXEeugene Says:
scruzman @ 136:
“a conservative is a former liberal who has been mugged…twice.”
there is some truth to that….i know that i’ve wavered on the death penalty several times
The problem is that today's so-called "Conservatives" are not Conservatives, but rather, thugs, lunatics, and radicals, at best.
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