Bill O'Reilly: Tasered University Student Is The "Biggest Wimp"
By Nicole Belle Wednesday Sep 19, 2007 8:36am
You know, for someone who likes to combine his exfoliation with his sexual gratification, Billo likes to show what a big, tough guy he is. Talking about Andrew Meyer, the university student tasered at a John Kerry speech, Bill assured us that Meyer's cries of pain were all an act:
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I've been tasered for a story, and all I can say is: He is the biggest wimp in the United States of America.
You know, I've employed my internet searching skills and haven't been able to find any evidence of Falafel Boy being tasered for a story. If anyone has such a clip, please share it with us. Wouldn't you like to see Billo like this?
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He is a fool. The act is the problem, not the severity of it. Par for the course for Bill-O.
nO i HATE WHEN ANYONE SUFFERS
Okay big shot, have a cop come on your show and do it live. Let the cop shoot the damned thing at you right there on your show. I don't care if you claim to have been shot in the past, if you are so tough, do it again and let us watch.
How much would that booth at the fair earn: "Taser Billo, only $500"
we could pay our nation debt.
Not working that video is...
Dear God, if you exist, please provide video of Bill O'Reilly being tasered. I will devote my life to You. Amen.
Being held down by four or five cops and being tasered makes someone a wimp? Wow, that's a stretch. Every demonstration I've ever seen of someone getting tased, there was yelling involved. The damn thing hurts!
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Bill O'Reilly is totally wrong - as usual.
pissed off patricia @ 7:
There are also plenty of videos out there of cops getting tasered as part of their training, and you see them yelling. A lot of police forces do this so that they get the idea of how it feels to be tasered. Sometimes I wonder if the cops who are too itchy on using a taser had ever gone through this training.
This is symptomatic of what has happened to the United States. There is no longer any pretense. It does not tax one's imagination overmuch to contemplate the brutality tthat must have attended O'Reilly fine Catholic upbringing. "When you cannot feel, you are capable of anything"....He is a disgusting, reprehensible, desiccated, remnant of a man...
I really like it that BillO included the "blowjob" and the "Skull and Bones" parts from Andrew Meyer.
I'd pay BillO $100 to let me taser him and video it. I'll bet we could raise 20 times that much. I mean, if he's not a wimp he'd do it, right?
I didn't think so.
The "story" he is referring to, is the one he just made up about being tasered. See how nicely that works out?
I wish Bill O'Reilly would go to North Korea or another police state where he belongs. He would make a great stooge for Kim Jong Il.
Besides, from what I saw of the video clip on MSNBC (see link below) that guy had at least 5 cops on top of him when they tasered him. In my book, that is no wimp.
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Oh please please PLEASE someone tazer this miserable little worm. I would actually pay to see the video of him writhing around on the floor, pissing himself uncontrollably while suffering through wave after wave of painful convulsions while his beleaguered staff stood around laughing their asses off at him.
That's entertainment.
Someone tell his desperate producer that it might pull his ratings out of the basement.... they'd probably force him to do it. LOL!
Bill O'Reilly, further proof that god is non-existent.
Bill O is an idiot. Plus, I truly did NOT want it to be an act! I wanted that line-cutting, fellow-peer disrespecting, non-complying jerk to feel the pain of the taser. I wish they tasered him again! (And I agree completely with what he was saying!)
Word is he's done it in the privacy of his bedroom many times. Isn't that right, Mr. Gannon?
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Remember Billo said to the Oregon Mountain Rescue Team, "I've been up there with you guys".
Yeah right. Talk about being way off belay.
Nicolle, check with Media Matters.
Sounds like Billo has agreat new idea for a Fox reality show... The Biggest Wimp. Winner gets a trip to Gitmo.
O'reilly has to be a wimp to make up yet another story to placate his pathetic and deluded reich-wing audience.
some person should rush on his fucking set and taser that fucking hemmroid head of his and then watch it explode on live tv .. now that would be entertainment ! not to mention justice
Watch this, take action.
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ok...fuck this blog. More Bill O'reilly shit? he is irrelevant and increasingly, so is crooks and liars. Maybe, CrooksandLiars Has run it's course.....
Later....
The guy was being held down. By six cops. He was not trying to escape. It looked like they administered the taser like somebody would inject somebody with a syringe. That is NOT the way to tase somebody. It was so weird. I wonder if they wiped the area of the tase with alcohol first?
Billo has people he doesn't like followed by his own staff, he has his own little Fox Security Police Squad, and he cuts off people's mics when they disagree with him. Sooooo, the student is the wimp?
I think I'd rather be tasered than watch another O'Reilly clip.
I stopped listening to Bill back when he said that little boy who was kidnapped probably liked living with his kidnapper.
Bill is right.
I'm a 21 year old, completely liberal college student..
The guy was intentionally disruptive, rambled on with his question without waiting for an answer, he was loud and unruly.. when you're 20 feet from a senator - you need to behave. simple as that. He was NOT tased for asking a question - he was tased because he escalated the situation to violence. If you're gonna make a statement and grab the mic and yell at a senator, you should know that you're going to make the police nervous. When they approach you to get you to calm down - heres a hint - calm down.
Meyers does this sort of thing regularly - he runs a website about himself stirring up trouble to make his points.. Sometimes (big surprise) with video! I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the cameras on the scene was a friend of his, thrilled that their plan was working out.
The power of what you say should be in what you say - not the fact that you're being loud and disruptive. The guy could have made whatever point he wanted to without getting arrested if he would have calmed the f*ck down and stopped fighting with the po's. He probably could have enjoyed a response to his questions.. but no. He wanted to be arrested. Just listen to him ham it up for the crowd, screaming "why are you arresting me? HELP HELP HELP!" before the police even had reason to arrest him.. Then the "Dont tase me, bro!" as he wrestled and fought with police.. what do you think will happen, retard?? Do what they say! Calm down. Stop screaming. Stop fighting... Then he wouldn't have to tase you, 'bro.'
Ugh. I'm so just frustrated that everyone is spinning this into something that I really don't think it is. And I'm pissed that some decent police officers are probably going to lose their job because of this loudmouthed showboating smartass.
funny how he misses the point. the point isn't that the guy got tazered or how painful it was or not (some people don't feel pain at all even under torture). The point was that the cops acted totally ludicrously against a guy who was "the annoying guy at a town hall meeting". If you get up and rant for a few minutes at a meeting like that and end up getting assaulted by the police, then we aren't living in a free society anymore.
Well, he doesn't miss the point. See, for part of our society, the right way to behave is simply to sit there and keep your mouth shut and listen to the people who know what they're doing run everything. Questions are always wrong.
Whatever you think of the student from UF, at least he wasn't a sheep being taken to the slaughter.
Has anyone noticed how all the defenders of the police in Gainesville focus their arguments on Meyer himself and not on the police?
It's the Rodney King Syndrome. If a victim of police brutality is personally objectionable, to an authoritarian like O'Reilly that justifies ignoring the brutality itself. There are plenty of Meyers on college campuses, and always have been... immature, obnoxious, attention-seeking types nobody likes. But the issue here isn't Meyer, it's why a prestigious university couldn't conduct an open forum without keeping a mini-gestapo at the ready to taser someone who got out of hand. The university's president said he was embarrassed, and he damn well should be.
I like how a guy that didn't go to Vietnam calls people "wimps"
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Tony @ 30:
It happens often that people who witness an event think that they have some special insight. Maybe you feel bad for sitting by and watching your fellow student be electrocuted. I don't know. All I know is that the cops escalated that situation and didn't have to. IMHO tazers should be illegal. They do kill people and they're cruel and unusual.
The cops are lucky that we live in a society where people will sit passively by and cheer one of their fellows being electrocuted.
As someone mentioned the other day "public safety" has gone way to far in our society. Thinking that you need to protect a senator from a college student who is 20 feet away by tazering him is totally crazy.
Well Bill Oreilly as we know likes too force phone sex on his female subordinates, is his liking being tasered a slight hint he is also a sexual masochist? Does he hire the ladies of the evening too whip him with whips etc? I find this comment suspcious, since he is definitely a right wing sex freak who preaches as if he is the moral warrior for the right wing, but in reality is he is just like the homosexual congressmen/senators, prostitute using congressmen/senators who on one hand preach morality, but in darkness and secret do the opposite while telling americans do as I say not as I do..! But then this should be no surprise, for anyone too believe in human infallibility is completely contrary too Jesus teachings, which clearly stated not one is good enough but without the grace/mercy of god and salvation via Jesus the son...! The old saying of beware of greeks bearing gifts might have a additional example "beware of right wing moralists preaching morality"?
I noted on fox news the other night Bill Oreilly had a guest on who was filing soft money violations against moveon.org, for being a political wing of democratic party, if this is so when will someone sue the fox newtwork for being the same for republican party, what is good for one is good for the other, their commentary is all right wing republican orientated, and one would only have too use their old videos too prove it...! Well maybe when 2008/2010 elections are over someone in control will bring these right wing propagandists down with the same tactics they like too use...
As far as the "I've been tasered for a story" comment; I think that what has happened is that he has grown so accustomed to lying flat out on tv/radio that he doesn't even think twice about it. I guess it's like the you an I take breathing for granted.
Captain Kangaroo, I'm so glad you made that comment (26) The cops did look strange as they held the guy down. It looked more like they were instructed to use the taser rather than they felt they had to do it to control him. Strange indeed.
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...is the name of the book he is wielding.
Everyone should read this book.
That's because BillO, the sick pervert, likes to suck on a taser.
I'm pretty sure this is libel, as the student is not a public figure; but then again it might be true. I would sue Bill-o.
Even in the video the taser is at least 10 feet away; Andrew was tasered at less than 2 feet it appears. I wonder how many of us 57 years and older are having flashbacks now from our younger days. When I watched the U of Florida videos it was visceral, my entire body responded... It's hard to see Sen. Kerry remaining on that stage, talking into" let me answer the question". Imagine a different scenario: Kerry leaps from the stage, spreading his arms and pushes himself between the young student and the security guards. Yes, he's an older man and I don't wish him harm. But imagine if he had done something. Why are we still standing stunned as each transgression against our democracy happens? If he had been tasered... a US Senator tasered to protect free speech! Sacrifice...symbols...steadfast knowledge that wrong is wrong...action.
Yes, Robert Lockward Mills, why was a taser even there. The UF Pres. was embarrassed? I'm not embarrassed I am ashamed and I have never even been to Florida, I'm just an American.
Palli
zugzug @ 35:
I think his fellow students cheered because they could tell he was trying to start shit. Its what he does. And how are the police the ones responsible for 'escalating the situation' ? I look at that video and I see the police gently escorting him from the podium, until he starts yelling and resisting them.. so they become a bit more firm.. and he gets louder and crazier and more physical in his resistance.. The cops are supposed to be on top of situations like that - its HIS job to calm down and its HIS fault the situation escalated. Those were his options and that was his choice.. He probably wouldnt have even been arrested if he'd left the podium with them and just sat down...
Oh come on Bill Orally, you are just used to getting electrocuted because of your weekly electroshock treatments. To try to kill off those other people inside your head.
zugzug @ 35:
Tell that to the parents of the victims of the Virginia Tech massacre last spring. You seem to have no idea of the steps being taken to improve campus security all across the country right now. Every student at every college in America is aware of what their campus police force is like. Including this nutcase. I have a hard time believing anything that happened to him was a surprise to him, including the tasering. He could've prevented it easily; he chose not to.
Tony @ 30:
Jon Stewart summed this up perfectly, and I'm paraphrasing. "This is the perfect combination of police overreach and student douchebaggery." That's being generous. I'm a liberal to my bones but for us to say that this is another example of the "man keepin the truth down' is self-righteous and myopic.
billo's right-- hell, i start every morning with a jolt whether i need it or not-- little bit of ect in the morning gets me through the day--
B.F. Skinner experiment designed to let the mice know they will receive a painful shock if they raise sensitive political subjects in public?
On the other hand, if they are supportive, as the students who cheered when Meyer was dragged away, they will continue to get their food and sex?
I recently watched a clip of a herd of buffalo in Africa attack a pride of lions who had grounded one of their calves. And the buffalo won.
I bring this up, also, because when I saw this video from a soldier in Iraq gloating over the tasering incident, I noticed him call the tasering witnesses "round toothers", which is a way of saying hebivores or grass-eaters or prey.
It's time for the American buffalo herd to start sharpening their teeth.
What totally belies O'Reilly's argument is that a taser contains 50,000 volts. Again, that is not 50 or 500 or even 5000 but 50,000 volts. That would certainly seem to be a lot electricity to have coursing through one's body and for O'Reilly to simply shrug off what happened to that student is simply absurd, which is what one would expect from a demagogue like O'Reilly.
"tasered" is billo's name for his new dildo.
Willisdyer @ 47:
THANK YOU. I completely agree.
So, Billo doesn't think tasers are effective. So id he going to start lobbying for more powerful police tools? I doubt it.
Maybe the kid was asking for it to make a point or to make the news, but that doesn't mean the cops should have given it to him. What I saw was 4 cops who had the kid on the ground with his hands behind his back. From there, if they couldn't have dragged him out of the room, then those 4 cops can't do their job, and they need to be fired for incompetence.
I wouldn't call Andrew Meyer the "biggest wimp". Biggest douchebag seems more appropriate. Was the tasering over the top? Yes. Could the campus police have whisked him out of the auditorium and avoided looking like goons? Absolutely. Meyer could have acted differently as well.
Dimple @ 40:
What Dimple said.
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Suppose O'Reilly was tasered for a story.
It's different when its voluntary and one is expecting it then to get tasered unexpectedly and against one's will.
Poor falafel boy. Talks a big story, but seldom has lived them out. Typical schoolyard bully, just like georgie bush. I'd love to see both of them tasered, over and over and over....
Just listen for the squealing pig sound if you are looking for Bill's story of being tasered. Sure Mr. Courageous did that.
zugzug @ 35:
Exactly. I can see why a couple of cops would jump on this guy and cuff him for being disruptive... but the tazering went too far. By the time they used it, he was already pinned to the ground by four or five cops. Seriously, any person is absolutely no threat when they are in that position... it's not like he's fucking Neo in The Matrix about to throw off a pile of Agent Smiths.
I don't think it matters anymore what O'Reilly or anyone else
think.The fact is that the whole world now knows that torture IS a confirmed policy of the U.S. regardless of what quaint things like the Constitution, free speech, liberty,
Old Europe, Old Rest of the World say. We also maim, murder and mass murder for the hell of it.
If a taser is a loofah then yes, Billo has been tasered.
zugzug @ 35:
Agree with you there:
Wheelchair-Bound Woman Dies After Being Shocked With Taser 10 Times
Sep 19
http://news.yahoo.com/s/wkmg/20070919/lo_wkmg/14147512
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I agree with Tony (not with BillO about the wimp comment). Although tazering is going a bit too far, I also see the police moving toward the guy slowly and trying to calm him down. He then started shouting and resisting while being escorted, making more out of the scene. If the guy calmed down, no tazer, no issue about free speech.
If being loud and disruptive is an acceptable behavor in a public forum with a US senator, let's all be loud-mouthed and disruptive! Why ask a question in a civil manner when we can all act like monkeys. It would be quite a show. Not an insightful one though. Free speech indeed.
OT:
Oh my, is anyone watching Bushie on CNN? He just said "People are asking (with regard to Iraq), where is (Nelson) Mandela? Well, Mandela is dead! Saddam killed all the Mandelas."
huh?
I'll second the call to quit bringing us "Billo" news. He's an ass. We get it. Enough.
If 6 police officers can't arrest and detain one unruly unarmed non-threatening person (and he wasn't THAT unruly) without tasering him then they need to be fired along with the incompetent jerkoff who was responsible for hiring and training them.
A soldier's take...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8185752758224020914
Tony @ 30:
Those decent cops would have fun tasing you.
As long as Billo atacks the blogs on the Left, he will be targeted right back.
Willisdyer @ 47:
stonicus @ 53:
Agreed. My understanding is (was) that tasers are used to subdue a suspect. Anything beyond that is just payback for making the cops exert themselves.
God damn, I would love to see 0Rly tazed.
I'm impressed by the intelligent responses. Made me think. But, I swear I'll watch FOX for an hour if Falafel Boy will re-enact his tazering episode. Philosopically it goes against the grain but, I'm only human. Oh and "I am not gay!"
The video of Billow being tasered is at his house, on the shelf next to his Peabody awards.
I hate it when I screw up the quotes!!
Weaseldog @ 67:
Please. They used non-lethal force to get a guy to chill out and now they're merciless abusers of power that would have fun tasing all of us.. Must feel great to spend your days and nights responding to 911 calls and enforcing the law for people that will instantly vilify you and make personal judgments when you do something they don't like.
O'Reilly... STFU
PUH-leeeeeaaase, indeed. If 6 cops cannot grab a guys' arms and lead him out of an auditorium, then something is dreadfully wrong. The only "wimp" seems to be a cop who must use a taser instead of the other five members of his/her team.
This is a clear abuse against this student's civil rights. He was only trying to ask a question. John Kerry was the WIMP for not calling a halt to an illegal abuse of power occurring right in front of his podium.
I telephoned the University of Florida at Gainesville and made very clear my disgust at the actions of their terrorist squad of jack-booted thugs. If that were my son, I would be filing a lawsuit at this very instant.
A wimp is someone who DOESN'T ask the tough questions. Piss on Bill O'Falafel
Tony @ 75:
Tasers are non-lethal only when the person being tased doesn't die.
Many people have died after being tased.
I don't like seeing police officers abuse their authority. You do. We disagree.
Oh, and BTW -- taser guns are NOT a form of "non-lethal force." Many people have gone into cardiac arrest and died from the effects of these brutish toys. Anyone who thinks tasers are "non-lethal" is quite mistaken.
I guess only wimps die from cardiac arrest after being tased.
"I was tazered for a story..."
If true that is one story i think Bill should do year long indepth three times a day coverage of. Think of the ratings!
I am so incensed over this I must add ONE MORE THING: Last night, I accidentally saw the intro to Glenn Beck's CNN show (can't stand the sound of his smarmy voice, so I try to avoid his time slot--) and yes, he was advocating the student be tasered even more.
Glenn Beck = Biscuit Boy.
Tony @ 75:
Yes, campus cops... putting their life on the line for some dangerous student asking a question. I hope they all get medals.
Most cops I have interacted with, are either too incompetent to train for another job or too dumb to be criminals themselves. I feel so safe whenever I go back home and I see the one of the biggest idiots in my highschool class who is now a cop. A sadistic dumbass now with a gun and a badge, yes... I can sleep safe at night. There is only 1 time I have ever needed the police, my car broke down... and I live in a safe neighbourhood -this was before cell phones were wide spread- a cop showed up I asked him if he could a) alert a towing service, or b) help me push the car to the side and give me a quick lift to my parents home a few blocks down. The answer was "NO, I can not do that sir" So I had to push the fucking car on my own, on the fucking pouring rain, as I was left on my own devices at 2 AM. I was a dangerous grad student back then... visiting an upscale residential neighborhood. In a town where my every one knew me and my family.
Incidentally whenever I have been a bit over the speed limit, them cops have always been there. For that they really can "help me."
Those cops acted like thugs, if you think it is OK to subdue someone just for asking a question some of you are fucked up and the reason why this country is going down the drain. I hope that at least you are practicing your goose step, like good Americans.
Tony @ 30:
Decent cops doing their job and getting in trouble for it.
From Justabill
http://news.yahoo.com/s/wkmg/20070919/lo_wkmg/14147512
Tony @ 75:
What are we supposed to do when they do something we don't like?
Tony @ 75:
So because their job sucks, its ok to use excessive force?
They had the subject properly subdued. He was pinned to the floor by multiple officers. He posed no threat. There was no need for the taser to be used.
And taser's are lethal. There are multiple confirmed cases of people dying from the use of tasers. Please, be informed, get your facts straight.
This wouldn't be the first lie for the pathological one. It is my belief that Billy would lie even if the truth sounded better!
I'd pay good money to see OReilly get tasered.
Yeah, the kid was being an asshole. Yeah, he is also a pussy. Yeah, he is also stupid. But, no, the cops (pigs in this case) were not simply doing their jobs. The perp was compeletly under their control at the time they decided to start tormenting him with the taser. The old "stop wiggling or I'll hit you again" defense didn't work in the Rodney King case and it doesn't wash here either. The cops were pissed and were dealing out some frontier justice.
Like Chris Rock said, "If you make the police chase you, they're bringing an ass whipping with them."
So much idiotcy and cruelity, and it is not surprising that Bill O'Lielly was drawn to the affair. Like a moth to a light, stupidity attracks the stupid.
More information about the guy getting tasered, not exactly innocent. You can see a youtube video that shows more of the scene he made before being tasered.
http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/09/19/meyer_jerk/
Yes, tasering isn't the answer, but blaming everything on the cops? Not sure about that either. All the guy had to do was stop being immature and calm down.
What with the tasering of the student in the UCLA library Nov. 14th, last 2006, and now this incident, I think we need to rethink the use of these goon squads wiith tasers running security for colleges. Where are they from, Blackwater?
"I'll tell you what. I've been in combat..."
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“I anchored a program called Inside Edition, which has won a Peabody Award for investigative reporting.”
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“Well, all I’ve got to say to that is Inside Edition has won, I believe, two Peabody awards, the highest journalism award in the country.”
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We won Peabody Awards,” O’Reilly said. “A program that wins a Peabody Award, the highest award in journalism, and you’re going to denigrate it?”
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Guy says about me, couple of weeks ago, ‘O’Reilly said he won a Peabody Award.’ Never said it. You can’t find a transcript where I said it. There is no one on earth you could bring in that would say I said it.”
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A guy this delusional certainly has no problem lying about whether he ever had a tazer used on him.
89 E in MD Says: I’d pay good money to see OReilly get tasered.
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No need, Bill pays good money to certain working women for that particular stimulating treatment, or so some people say.
ysbaddaden @ 92:
Those "goons" are not security. They are cops. They were lousy cops. Campus police can give you a speeding ticket, or haul you to jail just like any other cop can.
If anyone has such a clip, please share it with us. Wouldn’t you like to see Billo like this?
Hi. I'm just here to point out a little hypocrisy. Try not to groupthink your way around this one.
Thanks,
An actual liberal
kpeter @ 91:
I haven't seen anyone argue that only the cops were in the wrong.
I have seen lots of arguments that the cops did nothing wrong at all. That isn't the same thing.
I haven't read a single comment anywhere, accusing Andrew of being and an innocent angel in this.
What is getting people upset, is the argument that Andrew's actions didn't warrant being pinned down, then deliberately tasered, after he was subdued by multiple police officers.
It is still an open question as to whether he was tasered after being handcuffed. His hands were held behind him, and he was wearing cuffs right after being tasered.
Has anyone actually argued that Andrew wasn't acting like a jerk? Is anyone willing to argue that the cops should taser and arrest everyone that they find annoying?
Tony @ 30:
If you think Bill O'Reilly is 'right,' are you sure you're a liberal? Not a closet authortarian?
Show me where he threw a punch or did anything aggressive towards the police. He resisted being pushed away from the microphone, and resisted being physically carried away/wrestled to the floor.
And so the depth of the university's plan for coping with a known 'troublemaker' on campus is to wrestle him to the ground, taser him, and charge him with a felony?
You're also positing that one of the cameras was there to capture a police reaction. Sorry, I've seen plenty of bait-a-cop video, and that didn't tip the b.s. meter.
So, if he - in your own words - wasn't doing anything to be arrested FOR, why was he being arrested?
And all citizens have the right to know why they are being arrested.
Submit. Obey. Be docile. Good citizen. ::: pet, pet :::
The non-lethal nature of the taser does not mean the police are free to use it without restrictions or oversight. If the system is, in fact, fair and the officers, in fact, decent, their decision to taser Meyer should be upheld. If not, I imagine they will be able to appeal that decision as well.
Let's be clear - Meyer is charged with a felony, which carries serious implications, such as removing his right to vote (extent and duration varies from state to state), the ability to own a firearm, and probably any future employment. Yet his actions are hardly the worst or most offensive form of dissent ever seen in a public forum; there was no assault or intent to commit bodily harm, no apparent assault on any of the officers, no exhortations for other students to rise up and fight the oppression of the system.
To whatever extent that Meyer 'brought this upon himself' should not be an excuse to give police a free pass on tasering him.
1st Republic 14th Star @ 93:
If he was in combat, but not in the US Military, then is he a terrorist?
The old “stop wiggling or I’ll hit you again” defense didn’t work in the Rodney King case and it doesn’t wash here either. Capability Jones @ 90
Ha, my parents use to use that argument, too! "Stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about"
They outlawed Electro-Shock Therapy years ago on the mentally ill. They sort've brought it back as Electro-Convulsive Therapy (ECP). The former was shown to cause some scarring on the brain. Some doctors are concerned of microscopic damage from ECP's. Since the whole body's naturally electrified, with constant signals running throughout our frames, and one day we'll depend on the youth of America to support us in our old age through Social Security taxes, should we run the risk of any damage caused by tasers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNo9p17ieKo
Another taser related story is very interesting. Someone gave a link to Yahoo News who reported the story on Sept. 19, but it dates to April 2006. A woman in Clay County (Fla.?) was tasered to death by the police. She was apparently schizophrenic and bound to a wheel chair when she went over to her sister's house and threatened to kill her. The sister called the police, and they came and tasered the woman in the wheelchair 10 times within a 2 minute period resulting in her death. This story sounds a little National Enquirerish, but I think the use of this weapon really needs to be investigated and hopefully banned. How widely is it used across the country? In what venues? (Against the mentally ill, Alzheimer's victims, peaceful protesters?) How many deaths or serious injuries have resulted? How qualified, mentally stable, are the people into whose hands we are putting this weapon?
Thanks for clearing up, Nicole, whether it's "tased" or "tasered".
Isn't O'Reilly's 15 minutes UP?
I think the best thing we can do is ignore this guy.
Ol' hot-air BillOw probably thinks the kid enjoyed it.
I would PAY to see O Reilly tasered!
Bii O, wanna boost your ratings? Take a taser on TV! Take it like a man!
"Bjornstad, who was jolted for 1.5 seconds as part of his training, said all of his muscles contracted and the shock was like a finger in a light socket many times over. "Anyone who has experienced it will remember it forever …You don’t want to do this. It’s very uncomfortable ... and that’s an understatement." (The Olympian, 14 October 2002)
"It’s like getting punched 100 times in a row, but once it’s off, you are back to normal again." (The Olympian 2 March 2002)F
"It felt terrible." "It hurts. I’m going to think twice before I use this on anyone." (two officers quoted in the Mobile Register 8 April 2002).
"It is the most profound pain I have ever felt. You get total compliance because they don’t want that pain again." (firearms consultant, quoted in The Associated Press 12 August 2003)
"They call it the longest five seconds of their life … it’s extreme pain, there’s no question about it. No one would want to get hit by it a second time." (County Sheriff, quoted in The Kalazazoo Gazette, Michigan, 7 March 2004)
Quotes from police officers after being tased for training. Are they wimps, too, Bill?
http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engamr511392004 It's an old article on Amnesty International's concerns about tasers
"I’ve been tasered for a story..." Just one?!? Billo should be tasered for EVERY story he has done.
I think there's a few different discussions going on here.. for me, I am discussing the world I'd like to live in. One where people don't get tazered for asking stupid questions and being obnoxious.
It's too bad our world isn't like that.
As for cops on campuses needing to watch protect the masses: there were mass killings on campuses in the 60s, right? Sometimes by cops, once by a sniper. I'm a grad student and see first hand the high level of security on a top notch campus. Explain to me how they're going to stop a crazy kid from walking into a classroom and killing lots of people? What does that have to do with tazing a guy for being annoying. I'd like to see the explanation.
As for Bill-O, I'm all for C&L to stop covering his insanity. The guy is seriously over the deep end.
Has anyone turned up any evidence yet that O'Reilly ever got zapped for a story? If not, I propose that everyone here pledge one dollar toward the substantial and publicly announced reward which this far-left site will pay the first person to produce proof that this ever happened (video, official transcript, or confirmed witness affidavits completely describing the circumstances).
Hold your laughter, but I think Bill lied.
Weaseldog, the cops are given tasers by the US government right? If using it is wrong, you should work on abolishing tasers from the police force. Call your senators etc., start a movement against it, instead of talking about 'police brutality', 'goon squads', 'power abusers' or 'thugs' (there seems be many colorful descriptions about the cops in the comments above, more than about the guy who started the problem). I don't think tasering people is right. On the other hand, the cops were equipped with tasers by your government as a means to calm people down by force. They are meant to use it. If you don't like them using it, blame the guys who supplied them with the tool, not the users.
I find far more comments about the cops being wrong rather than pointing out the source of the problem. Like I wrote above, if the guy didn't go out of his way to make a scene in a public forum with a US Senator, none of this would have happened. Or perhaps being immature and disruptive a thing to encourage? Perhaps the cops could have gaged the guy to stop him screaming? Dragging him out kicking and screaming a better option? The guy just needed to calm down. Is that asking for too much?
From your top page:
"Filed Under: Bill O'Reilly"
That's not a file, it's a dildo!
Get it right!
kpeter @ 109:
They were supplied firearms as well.
Of course not. It's a crime!
this guy is a proven liar. when he says he was tasered for a story, why should anyone believe him. make him cough up the truth, show the story that illustrates his allegation. he will then be issued an apology. why do i tend to believe that one proof does not exist or if there is validity to the story, it will be in the gray area, like yes, he was tasered but the gun was deliberately placed on one-third power because after all the guy is a celebrity, a sleeze bag, but nonetheless a celebrity. why do those with the most baggage always portray themselves as self righteous and the true saviors of this country. when the nightmare is over, will they be made to pay?
the hell.... he's talking abotu a kerry speech, and he's now attacking a student, not kerry.
Billo took the taser up his ass. That is why it didnt hurt.
He is such a moron!
So, firearms are same as a taser, and being immature and disruptive at a public forum a thing to encourage because it's not a crime. I can see where you are trying to go with that.
Herding protesters into "Free Speech Zones" hundreds of yards away so that their elected officials do not have to hear their concerns.
Arresting people for criminal trespass or disorderly conduct for doing no more than wearing anti-Bush shirts at a rally.
The reaction of the police was not surprising. This is just one more example in a growing list. I would like to know when the primary mission of the police changed from "protecting the citizens" to "protecting the government FROM the citizens".
This nation cherishes freedom of speech -as long as it is government sanctioned speech.
kpeter @ 109:
It has to be black or white doesn't it. Taser everyone or ban tasers.
Because clearly, police officers can't be trained to use them responsibly. After all, cops have been known to murder people with guns, so responsible police officers can't use their guns with discretion, right?
Tasers are only supposed to be employed with the officers feel they are under threat of bodily harm. Do you believe that this young man could've killed or maimed all the police officers with an annoying cry for help?
There are rules the police officers are trained to follow when using tasers. They broke those rules.
last comment, i finally watched o'reilley's video. actually i made myself watch it because watching that self righteous piece of excrement makes me sick. first, it would appear that the student was tasered not once but several times, i thought that when i first saw it and after watching it again, those are still my thoughts. secondly, a year or two ago a news reporter for a local channel here in san diego subjected himself to being tasered so that he could better report on the cruelty of the device. he would be a better subject to ask as to whether it's whimpy to cry out after being tasered. now san diego is a hotbed of republican conservatism and i wouldn't doubt that this same reporter has now been "counseled" by the right and would fervently agree with o'reilley's assessment now after the fact.
then my question to him would be, "Would you mind going through the ordeal once again just to prove that point?"
Hey Bill, lets hook up a taser to your balls and see how you feel!
After watching numerous videos on tasers, I've come to one obvious conclusion.
Bill O'Reilly is Superman. Every person tased including law enforcement personnel and military personnel cried out in pain.
All of our military and police personnel are wimps compared to Bill O'Reilly.
Scott in Chicago @ 119:
You're making an unsubstantiated assumption.
He is not the biggest wimp - and O'Reilly's never been tasered. The student is, however, a little bitch.
The student did deserve to be tasered. The Kerry presentation was not an open forum. He had his time to speak his mind and had nothing but irrational conspiracy notions to contribute. He could not sell his ideas to his would-be mob. The stupid little bitch decided to resist a perfectly acceptable display of legal enforcement and he got what he deserved. End of story.
What happened to this student is what happens when irrational ideas are confronted with rational regulation. Freedom within society is not the same as freedom from society.
Zenrage @ 122:
In a number of countries it is customary for the police to be the peace keeper, judge, jury and executioner.
I'm not surprised that many people in the USA support such a system.
Our forefathers believed that the law enforcement personnel shouldn't also be the judge, or decide and mete out the punishments for breaking rules. They wrote books on why this is a bad idea and they had personal experience with a system like this.
I suppose this will have to slide further before it can be corrected.
Maybe the kid was asking for it to make a point or to make the news, but that doesn't mean the cops should have given it to him. What I saw was 4 cops who had the kid on the ground with his hands behind his back. From there, if they couldn't have dragged him out of the room, then those 4 cops can't do their job, and they need to be fired for incompetence.
Exactly right!
Zenrage @ 122:
I'm happy that we've delegated to our cops the power to decide the difference between irrational conspiracy notions and rational discourse.
Or maybe you can do it.
A lot of us here wouldn't have had a problem with them throwing the guy out, the problem is when they tazer a guy who is on the ground and not able to resist.
kpeter @ 115:
No, apparently you can't.
Simon White-Thatch Potentloins @ 124:
+1
Weaseldog, who said anything about tasering everyone? Moreover, guns can cause life threatening injuries quite easily, anyone who can't understand that shouldn't/wouldn't be in the police force (or so I hope). On the other hand, tasers are not that proficient at killing people, unless abused, which I believe is your concern.
If you see the clip, you see the kid resisting from the start the moment police touched him. Screaming even while he's pinned down (before being tasered). I saw him resisting and shouting quite a bit. Do you prefer gaging him or dragging him kicking and screaming? Either way the cops would have looked bad and people would have complained about free speech. If only the guy was mature enough to calm down moments after the police tried to escort him out.
At the end of the day, it seems he's getting the attention he wanted at the expense of the cops. Good for him.
Again, if you believe tasering is a life threatening issue that is easily abused by the cops, do something about it. Don't blame them for carrying it around and using it. Not all cops are abusers and thugs you know. They also can make mistakes. Mistakes some people love to exploit.
I've known a few tough guys, and it seemed like usually they were fairly easygoing due to the confidence they had that they knew how to take care of themselves. On the rare occassion they were beaten at something, that got their respect for whoever defeated them.
In old Irish mythology a warrior's greatest friend was often their enemy.
Let's see Bill get tasered and see if she screams!
TASER DEMONSTRATION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACUjnJBHIZc
- JJ
You would expect this moronic contrarianism from Bill, what a weak little sick man.
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We must look at the CAUSE of this incident.
I am going to post a comment I made on this topic the other day on C@L.
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There is in excess of 7,000,000 people in the USA in some form of incarceration.
This is not an isolated incident in the USA. This is how the police can behave in any state anytime they choose. The Americans have become the police’s bitches instead of the POLICE being the publics bitch’s…. sad but true. The police in America are in the Prison Business and that is BIG BUSINESS…
You want to fix this national problem, then cut off the snakes head and stop looking at its tail.
- JJ
The Chicago Tribune has another story today (9/20/07) on the tasering of an autistic teen in California.
kpeter @ 128:
So this discussion isn't about the use of tasers?
The crux of your argument is that you feel that what these officers did is an indictment of all police officers? That if a single police officer engages in bad behavior and is called on it, then this is an indictment of all police officers?
I don't buy your argument.
As I argued yesterday, I've seen Dallas cops who were carrying tasers arrest drunken drug addicts at the train station, without ever drawing a taser or a sidearm. Even when the perp was swinging at the them. They pinned the perps, handcuffed and dragged them off to their car. They never tasered them for yelling.
So, I'll argue again for clarity. The Florida cops screwed up and it is their fault that they did. Dallas Police officers are not as you assume, to blame for what the Florida cops did. Though you argue differently, the behavior of an individual cop is not reflective of law enforcement on the whole.
In the last few years, two local cops killed their wives. One used a gun, the other beat his wife to death. If I follow you logic, they should not have been prosecuted, because that would be an indictment against all cops in the world. I don't buy that argument. Like the Florida cops, that are responsible for what they do. Other police officers in other parts of the world cannot be blamed for the behavior of the odd bad apple.
kpeter @ 109:
They were NOT! They were given tazers as a means to subdue violent or threatening suspects with "less then lethal" (note, not 'non' lethal...just less than) force. Tazers do not calm people down. 50,000 volts is quite the adrenaline rush, trust.
Sounds very similar to "I was just following orders", which has been proven in the past to be a nonviable defense. Or maybe you meant 'hate the game, not the player'?
Give me a solid, PRINTED, legal definition of 'immature', 'disruptive' and 'calm' and your point may have some validity, but when the people with the weapons can define these terms during the confrontation it's a recipe for abuse of power.
I'd rather be the biggest wimp than the biggest asshole. O'Reilly will never abdicate that title. Ever.
Wheelchair-Bound Woman Dies After Being Shocked With Taser 10 Times
State rules Taser death homicide
YAHOO NEWS SEPT 19 2007
There are so many incidences like this Nationwide. I have personally seen a homeless person in Portland Oregon TASERED because he walked away from police after speaking with them.. not ran.. WALKED. I witnessed this with my own eyes and it was not a threatening situation at all.
It is a Nationwide condition we are dealing with here, not a cheeky student.
- JJ
Tony @30: Have you studied American History at all? Most of the important things (like the Revolution) were accomplished by obnoxious, outrageous people, people passionate about theit cause. Look up the bio of Sam Adams for starters!
Kathy @ 136:
That is very true, but it doesn't mean every obnoxious, outrageous, passionate person is trying to accomplish something important.
kpeter @ 128:
I'd say "dragging him kicking and screaming". He should be tasered for being loud and obnoxious? You plan on turning the tasers loose at college football games?
Resisting and shouting are a pretty natural response to being dragged out by the cops, and cops are pretty well used to it. Once he was on the ground, they could just as easily have cuffed him and removed him, shouting or not.
gummitch @ 138:
Hrrmm, or Neocons watching football games at sports bars? They are loud, obnoxious and confrontation.
Well, excuse me for thinking clearly, but if his cries of pain were a theatrical and exaggerated response to give the impression that the effect of the taser is more painful than it really is, that makes him a "faker", not a "wimp".
To be considered a "wimp", his cries of pain would have to be a genuine response to a sensation that others would be able to withstand without crying out.
It does however, make 'Ol Bill a certified member of the Porky's Dumbass "Kite-Hating" Bigot's Club
Congratulations.
You're main argument is that the cops shouldn't have tased the student right? I agree with you. They screwed up. However, I also believe the student has half the blame, which you don't seem to understand.
No, I didn't say all police officers are the same. I said there are good ones and bad ones. Sometimes, the good ones make mistakes too. I saw many people here blaming it all on the cops. When I saw the video clip where it starts with the kid getting hold of the mic, I saw the cops getting desperate and making a mistake, I didn't see the cops gleefully zapping away.
Oh whatever. student = good, cops = bad. Just keep blaming it on the cops and those evil tasers. Have fun.
And if the student had died, had a seizure or been blinded by an object handled with too much force?, what then? And, get this, if he had been a winger at a Clinton appearance and this had happened?? I shudder to think, Fox news would be beyond insane with their reactions.
This is what cops do folks, this guy was a prick but a white one and I can see black smiles all over the nation, thinking, "see that's what it is like!".
kpeter @ 144:
I even when to the trouble to explicitly write this out for you. Not one person here says that the student was an angel. Not one person here has said that Andrew did nothing wrong. And you haven;t ready anything at all to that effect.
You are a liar. You're just telling lies to justify trolling.
Again, You Are A Liar.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709200004?f=h_latest
Wow a sadist twofer:
Beck: "I say he was asking for it and deserved every single volt that he got."
"I say hit him with another 50,000 volts"
O'Reilly: "Well, thanks to Andrew, we now have a new promotion. Anyone buying anything on BillOReilly.com will receive a "Don't Taze me, bro!" bumper sticker."
These people are fucking sick.
www.leftopia.blogspot.com
Freedomboy @ 145:
If Andrew had died, they'd still be saying that he had it coming, because he acted like a jerk.
Wow, a sadist twofer:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709200004?f=h_latest
BECK: I say hit him with another 50,000 volts.
BECK: Coming up, a college student is Tasered by campus police during a John Kerry event. Some say the action was overly aggressive. I say he was asking for it and deserved every single volt that he got. I'll explain.
O'REILLY: Well, thanks to Andrew, we now have a new promotion. Anyone buying anything on BillOReilly.com will receive a "Don't Taze me, bro!" bumper sticker. And you know you want one. Everybody wants one.
These people are really sick.
www.leftopia.blogspot.com
lefty @ 149:
Not only sadists, but not very well informed sadists. He was "hit" with current, not voltage. Beck meant he deserved every single amp he got.
While I hate Bill O'Reilly, I would like one of those bumper stickers.
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