first?

Mrs. Edwards: If only you all would mention him.

Chris Matthews: So what do you think about Hillary?

God how I hate tweety and his spitting, obtuse, smugness. With his favorite butt-boy, the ever wrong, buchannan it makes for a stomach churning 7:00-8:00 hour. If it were not for Keith and David Shuster, I wouldn't watch MSNBC, ever.

I thought she handled him well. As my grandmother used to say, she snatched a knot in his tail.

Oh, and I think he has lost his fu*king mind. He's drugged by his own ego and it's pathetic.

First, someone give Tweety a cough drop!

Now, Tweety is the type of person who doesn't listen, he waits to speak.

Elizabeth is so incredulaous and classy as that moron rakes into "trial lawyers". She'd be a good first lady.

Chris Matthews is so enamored with himself it's surprising his ego fit into that huge room where they were sitting.

The beltway bumpkins embrace every Kudlowist supply side economic talking point about the need for "tort reform"

And Tweety was an embarrassment on election coverage. Not only the nabob of non-sequitur, but he wouldn'st shut up.

How can any honest candidate survive in such a toxic waste dump as our media?

It's all "hope". You know "Faith ,hope, and charity. That is the way to live successfully. How do I know, the Bible tells me so." Reverend Obama will lead the masses to a land of hope. Screw action, screw passion. No one wants to work at anything. It's just too hard. Thanks to Matthews et al. I hope that some day Tweety needs a trial lawyer and he rots without one. I think that the country has mush for brains.

I am honestly glad for the transcripts provided at C&L because I often find it too difficult to watch these clips. It's just too unpleasant watching the brick-like wit and sneering condescension of the neocon media hacks.

StirFry @ 18:

if it was Guiliani, all you'd hear is slurping and moans.

HA! XD

tweety!

I prefer 'chrissie'. I think it denotes the small-minded, katty little woman-hating shit that he is.

It's just too bad he hasn't been caught yet in a men's bathroom at an airport.

LOL.....Tweety's worried about the bartenders.....that tells ya something.

Elizabeth did a great job of keeping her composure. How did she keep from leaping over that table, smacking Tweety and screaming, "John beat Hillary using a fraction of her funding and with negative help from the media since the MSM pretends he isn't even running!" ?

I wish that Edwards and Obama would team up to some degree in the primaries. Get rid of Clinton early and let the real stumping begin, particularly because the Republican nomination process is such a goat rodeo. A long head start sure wouldn't hurt.

Moreover, i really hope that Edwards is not angling for the VP position again. I want him to be attorney general: a position where he could play on his strengths and his anger. I can't shake the feeling that Obama will be a little out of his league, and i don't want another Carter administration. But turning Edwards loose to right the wrongs of the past seven years in terms of civil liberties and to do some trust busting would take a little pressure of Obama...and do this nation a world of good/healing.

Hey Tweety, if you ever read these things let me tell ya, you GOT to STOP patronizing what YOU envision as good-ol-boy America just so you will come off as "one of the boys". I know, and YOU know that media coverage (how often one is mentioned in the press) is EVERYTHING in a presidential race. Mrs Edwards was trying to get this message through that THICK BUCKET you wear on your shoulders... and you know what? I think you know EXACTLY what she is talking about... but you got your orders don't ya?! You are going to march to the drum of your corporate superiors or else risk losing your job because you might piss off a few simple minds out there who are seeking an agreement-buddy on the news. Press is the single most powerful TOOL in the modern world. Press can make or break someone. Remove news coverage from a candidate and he/she will fade away as sure as the sun will rise... Give too much press, and you can be a total fool (ala GW) and you will STILL retain a wide enough margin of followers... you guys (believe it or not) control everything... but you KNOW that ... right?

I have to say again after reading this.

I hate chrissie. I hate every single aspect of him that I see or hear.

I pretty much stopped viewing his videos, because I actually shouted in my cubicle at work and people came to help me. My boss thought I was trying to work while in pain.

I did watch Olbermann and Rachel put his garbage to rest on caucus day, though.

The REalist @ 28:

does anyone get the impression that Tweety is looking at himself in the monitor, gushing over himself? It's as if he is experiencing audio problems and doesn't hear the answers to the "questions". His interviews seem like those cellphone commercials about "dropped calls".

I'm pretty sure he's had his own image with that of the Marlboro man etched onto his retina. That could explain his blindness when it comes to women.

Has Matthew's nurse been negligent? Ignoring those repeated notices from his pediatrician that 'Your check-up is overdue'?

One must suspect that he's run out of Ritalin, and his ADD is running rampant.

Psychoticism is essential for a TV babbling boob, but don't take it too far, Tweety.

this meglomanic is so full of it's own millionaire ego , which has been bought and paid for by GE, that it thinks that it is a 'kingmaker' ... the recent promo's for this repiglican cumslut have it walking thru some kinda fog towards the camera with it's pathetic self important smirk on ... this is one of the most repulsive bags of shit of all the pundit pimps, the other meglomanic o'reily included. it sits there pivoting on it's own asshole as it's preens itself in the tv monitor .. every pivot equalling yet another anal orgasm as it delights in it's own image. this self appointed 'kingmaker' is so consumed in its self importance that it actually thinks it can affect the outcome of the '08 elections and thus sits there and pontificates as if the repiglican cum drenched drival that emanates from it's putrid mouth is THE TRUTH FROM ON HIGH. so consumed in it's own evil ego of self importance this GE MONKEY no longer has a soul: in it's place there is simply abscess of evil puss. this millionaire 'journalist' should be charged, tried, and convicted for purposeful, criminal, fraud committed against the american people and dragged out of the protection of its corporate studios .. it's arms and legs should be removed and then it should be rolled into a jail house and turned into a 'bitch' for the enjoyment of the inmates. and of course miss matthews would enjoy it ..........

CM: You’ve got a great face, Elizabeth. Sorry, I don’t want to patronize you. You’re great.

You've got a great face?? What the fuck??? You know, I am convinced that Tweety is a closet case who has some serious issues with women. There's a shortage of bartenders in Pennsylvania because of trial lawyers?? Where in the name of Jesus H fucking Christ did he get that from? Tell ya what, tweety, since you've got such a problem with trial lawyers, I want to see who you're gonna run to when MSNBC fucks you over on your next contract. As for Edwards being "just another white Protestant from the South" - yeah, like Huckabee, Thompson, Paul, McCain. Maybe Ms. Edwards should have splashed on some Aqua Velva and lit up a couple of stogies before going on camera; I understand Tweety likes that - a lot!

That coughing he does seems to me an indication he is wound too tight and possiblly about to get himself into health trouble. Seriously, I don't mean any harm to him, but maybe they need to ease his ass off TV a little bit 'til he recovers his equilibrium and doesn't blow a fuse on one of those coughing fits.

Has anyone noticed the TOTAL DELEGATE COUNT on CNN's web page titled CNN.com/Politics ?

Take a look at it. It has Hillary Clinton leading in total delegates right now. 169 to Obama's 66, and Edwards 47.

WTF ?

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/

Just saw this headline on Yahoo:

Clinton, Obama offer study in contrasts

Here's the only mention of Edwards in the entire (17 graf) story:

"Former Sen. John Edwards, who edged Clinton for second place in Iowa, skipped the dinner in favor of campaigning at a town hall meeting in Portsmouth. But his wife, Elizabeth, attended and made herself available to reporters during the event's preliminary speeches."

What the f*ck?

Isn't it perfectly clear who is getting f*cked by the MSM?

Isn't it perfectly clear who they fear??

gosh blue at #39 don’t hold back–how do you really feel?

Jenny, try not to use priggish, little worn out cliches, this one is not in fashion any more.

Also not mentioning Edwards at all is The Huffington Post.

there is an article about bill and hillary clinton, britney spears, huckabee vs obama, hillary clinton says blah blah about obama, dorothy hammel has breast cancer, don't eat too much at the mall, huckabee, joe biden, hillary AND a possibility of new indiana jones movies!

bye ya huffpoo...it was getting fluffier all the time but now they have nothing there that i can't find by the truck load at cnn, nbc and cetera.

Reviews are trickling in from the critics on the candidate's post Iowa speeches.

Re: Fred Thompson, 'Exceedingly euthanistic'; from Matilda McCain, John's great-grandmother, no comment; re: Huckabee, 'Biblically boringifical'; re: Edwards, 'Non-political-like arousingly attentionating'; Clinton, 'Still searching for Just-Like-Bill heart-grabbing gusto'; Obama, 'Texas-ranchy 'All Hat, No Sheep' bullshit'; Romney, 'Doing the Hucklebuck, 'You move it to the Left, then you move it to the Right, and you turn it all-about...'; Biden and Dodd, 'Sharply pointed, 'Fu*k you all, you dumb fu*ks'; Paul, 'Extremely wistful about being unable to return to his home universe';

And a post-mortem note from Molly Ivins, 'Sorry I'm missing out on all the stupendously ridiculous insanity'.

Yeah and the AP could only declare that John Edwards was "...a big name casualty..." WTF? You come in second, you whip MSM/tweety's favorite fantasy peeping Tom crush Billary, and you're a casualty?

STEVEinSC @ 49:

gosh blue at #39 don’t hold back–how do you really feel?

Jenny, try not to use priggish, little worn out cliches, this one is not in fashion any more.

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Watching Tweety this election cycle, he hints strongly of man-love for McCain and Obama. All of the other candidates are worthless.

What happened to his man love for Thompson and Guiliani? At one time he was almost creaming when he mention their attributes. How fickle he is. We should advise the guys running that if they want to impress him - it's Aqua Velva and Cigar Smoke - and don't let them forget to bring up 9/11!!

gosh blue Jenny'O at #39 57 don’t hold back–how do you really feel?

STEVEinSC @ 55:

Yeah and the AP could only declare that John Edwards was "...a big name casualty..." WTF? You come in second, you whip MSM/tweety's favorite fantasy peeping Tom crush Billary, and you're a casualty?

I'm telling you, they want either a black man from Chicago or Bill Clinton's "shrill" wife as an opponent.

And when they get just that...it'll be President (fill in the blank Republican).

1) elizabeth stammered more than i've seen her stammering on a lot of the answers. she was focused and on point with her answers, but she should work on slowing down and not stammering so much.

2) chris is a douchebag

3) she should call him out on his Attention deficiency or his neglect of her answers

I think part of it is that despite all the bull they talk about journalistic integrity, the whole media has the mentality of a carnival barker and they see us all as marks.

Both Obama and Hillary have obvious qualities ripe for a degenerate showman to harp about to increase the 'drama' and sell tickets to the show.

From a media entertainment point of view, Edwards is boring. He should do his next speech in drag and black face. It would REALLY help his media problem.

Chris Matthews is extremely fortunate that 'Incompetent, incontinent commenting', is not yet a criminal offense, as it should be.

Especially while speaking with a competent trial lawyer. Who is commendably, civilly, questioning his ignorance of her husband's significant achievement.

Could Matthews obliviousity be just another symptom of his BDD? (Brain-Dead Disorder)?

Preacher Boob @ 53:

:lol:

STEVEinSC @ 61:

gosh blue Jenny'O at #39 57 don’t hold back–how do you really feel?

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you are so unfashionable.

ok sitemon i apologize...no more flaming--unless he says something else i don't like.

[I'm sure you'll do the right thing. - Site Monitor]

LET Jon Stewart skewer him again, he's such an irresponsible lout, how dare he say anything, he's like a broken record, his momma needs to kick his ass

Go Blue!.#39..ha ha ha ha ha.

I believe Edwards should use this interview to especially the "he's just a southern white protestant" comment and mention it is the debate tonight. Blogs need to beat the hell out of the pathetic MSM press and it's sad biased coverage. This exchange is a stellar example of such.

Oh..btw....I'm and Engineering Manager...I guess the Engineering Managers give to the Edwards campaign. Oh and my Wife's and RN's I guess the RN's give to John Edwards also...Screw You Tweety!

I suggest all you other occupations support Edwards also. How pathetic that in Tweeties eye an occupation is the same as a paid federal lobbyist.

Please give to the Edwards campaign. Maybe tweety will use mention your occupation in some future rant and you can find out if your good or bad. What an arrogant ass!

js

You know, we criticize a lot, but we all made a big mistake, ourselves.

If we had had any brains, before this whole political campaign fiasco began, we'd have chipped in and bought Kuchinich and Edwards some really good track shoes. And Richardson, too, or at least something to replace those muddy New Mexico boots.

Elizabeth looks and thinks well. John & her make a great team. She can trump Hill's experience right now. What will it take to hear more Edwards, $$$ or Elizabeth?

Gorgei @ 44:

I get really upset with the fact that liberals can't just back a candidate. Why all the subtle racism with Obama? Here in Iowa we saw many Dems that voted for Edwards because of the race thing....it was sad. So many disillusioned by what he did versus "new and improved" Edwards. Whatever...some of these bloggers are as bad as the media they are attacking, bringing us full circle.

Oh...and by the way...Edwards will be to blame when Clinton gets the nomination and blackballing Obama's liberal vote...then we will have another Republican prez.

It would seem that the only one playing the race card and the fear card is you! How you make the jump to its either Obama or a Republican Prez is absurd!

There are substantial differences between the candidates and they need to be fully explored, that is the process in a democratic society. If you don't have enough confidence in Obama after he won in Iowa... you never will.

Hillary and Obama were selected by the mainstream corpratist media from the beginning and Edwards has always had an uphill battle. Even when he was leading in the polls in Iowa it was never even mentioned by Tweety and Timmy.

Glenn Greenwald noted this in his article on Salon:

Excerpt:

Media hostility toward anti-establishment candidates

There is no question that the media has paid far less attention to Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee than the respective successes of their campaigns merit. To that list, though, I would add a third candidacy that has received far less media attention than it merits by all objective metrics (polls, stature and money): the John Edwards campaign. In 2004, Edwards was the party's Vice Presidential nominee, came closer than anyone else to beating Kerry, and has continuously been very near the top of Iowa's polls. Yet the media has all but ignored him -- it's Clinton v. Obama in their World -- except to mock him on the pettiest of grounds, from his hair to his house.

Edwards, Paul and Huckabee are obviously disparate in significant ways -- ideologically, temperamentally, and otherwise. But there is a vital attribute common to those three campaigns that explains the media's scorn: they are all, in their own ways, anti-establishment candidates, meaning they are outside and critical of the system of which national journalists are a critical part, the system which employs and rewards our journalists and forms the base of their identity and outlook. Any candidate who criticizes and opposes that system -- not in piecemeal ways but fundamentally -- will be, first, ignored and, then, treated as losers by the press.

It is very striking how little Edwards' substantive critique of our political system has penetrated into the national discourse. That's because the centerpiece of his campaign is a critique that is a full frontal assault on our political establishment.

His argument is not merely that the political system needs reform, but that it is corrupt at its core -- "rigged" in favor of large corporate interests and their lobbyists, who literally write our laws and control the Congress. Anyone paying even casual attention to the extraordinary bipartisan effort on behalf of telecom immunity, and so many other issues driven almost exclusively by lobbyists, cannot reasonably dispute this critique.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/12/19/establishment_candidat...

The 8000 Lbs. gorilla in the cage is that the corporations and their lobbyist are running the show in the beltway. It is corrupt and rigged and anyone who opposes the system that the journalist are a part of is going to get ignored or denigrated.

Edwards is the only candidate who from the very beginning has attacked the system and the party elites. Howard Dean did it as well and the DLC crowd jumped at the chance to join with the GOP and try to destroy his political career because he changed the way campaign funds are raised by doing it grassroots across the net rather than peddling influence to the Washington Lobbyists.

One quick thought to add...

Which of other spouses, save Bill, could come on Hardballs and kick Tweety's ass?

STEVEinSC @ 61:

gosh blue Jenny'O at #39 57 don’t hold back–how do you really feel?

Oh JennyO.

Hahahahahaha.....this is priceless.....sorry for being off topic, but...congrats Dems for seeing through the charade!

If the New Hampshire Democratic Party’s 100 Club dinner is any bell weather – Barack Obama will handily win here. When Obama, the dinner’s last speaker, took the stage the crowd surged forward chanting “O-bam-a” and “Fired Up, Ready to Go!” So many people pressed toward the stage that an announcer asked people to “please take their seats for safety concerns.”

By comparison Hillary was twice booed. The first time was when she said she has always and will continue to work for "change for you. The audience, particularly from Obama supporters (they were waving Obama signs) let out a noise that sounded like a thousand people collectively groaning. The second time came a few minutes later when Clinton said: "The there are two big questions for voters in New Hampshire. One is: who will be ready to lead from day one? The second," and here Clinton was forced to pause as boos from the crowd mixed with cheers from her own supporters. "Is who can we nominate who will go the distance against the Republicans?”

The dinner held in the Hampshire Dome in Milford is the largest political dinner in New Hampshire history, Republican or Democrat. More than 3,000 people attended.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/01/hillary_booed_at_nh_democrati...

I admire Elizabeth Edwards.

My opinion is if the MSM are afraid of Edwards and he is coming in second then he must be a good thing. I support Edwards. He is for the people and against the corporations. And Elizabeth gave Tweety an earful. I saw it when it happened and I applauded it. Maybe now Tweety will feel pressured to cover Edwards.

CK -

I don't that the MSM is afraid of Edwards, instead I think that they like to play a 2 man game. Obama against Clinton. That's the story. Edwards doesn't fit. That's the problem. If Edwards had won on Thurday then it would be Edwards and Clinton.

IMHO

Amazing, Mathews is totally losing it. He is an embarrassment. Olberman, was so much better election night. MSNBC needs to get rid of him. He cannot follow through with an idea, he rambles, he fixates on an idea and if the person he questions does not parrot his idea he ignores the answer. He was so giddy with the fact that the world press was covering the Iowa primary, how amateurish. Not a Huck fan, but he literally said to him: you made the cover of Al Jazzeera, what do you think of that? What a moron. Elizabeth spanked him, she knows how to deal with a dissruptive child and bully. Then he get paternalistic about her having a nice face. MY GAWD. He is sloppy,unfocused, pedantic, moronic, trivial, biased, paternalistic, simplistic,......

Doubt that it is pure BS. There is a segment of the population that will not vote for a Black man...or woman. I have no idea how large that segement is but it clearly exists.

You know, if Edwards and the TLA want to turn this into a real, barn-busting campaign, it's about time for them to pony up and buy a TV network or two, and a couple of newspapers.

Then they could get their story across in a straightforward, unslanted manner.

I know lawyers' mantra re: money, is 'Get, Not Give', but just this once they should consider investing in media, in addition to Rolexes, Mercedes, and mistresses.

Email Matthews at
hardball@msnbc.com

Tweety just made a total ass of himself. Does he not get how many people are injured yearly and have to fight insurance companies for compensation? How about big guys who screw little guys out of the rewards of contracts and partnerships?

Does Tweety not realize that without trial lawyers, it would be a literal free-for-all for corporations and insurance companies to absolutely disregard the rights and health of consumers, and their right to compensation? It isn't a conscience that keeps corporations on their toes, it's the fear of being sued for making a product or following a course of action which results in serious injury or other harm to the consumers who buy their products. That's why juries are allowed to assess punitive damages.

Hey, Tweety, tell me, please, what will you do if someone runs head-on into your car and injures you? Are you just going to accept what their insurance company thinks your injuries are worth? Hell no. You'll get a major bucks trial lawyer to see that you get the justice you think you deserve.

You want to go after somebody, then go after the lawyers who represent big corporations like the tobacco companies, those lawyers making $500 an hour, not the ones who represent the little guys who work on contingency. How about going after the lawyers who represented bush in bush v. Gore before the Supreme Court? How about that lawyer James Baker, representing the Saudis against the families of the victims of September 11, 2001?

No, I'm not a trial lawyer, nor do I know any trial lawyer. But this MSM meme that trial lawyers are bad people is beginning to piss me off.

Johnny2Bad -

I get it but it doesn't fit into the pressing thinking. Look at how they have framed this 2 person race. Part of the frame is Clinton. Period. They have set that in stone. So, who is the other candidate that you can frame her against.

MSM will not present us with complex scenarios. They will never paint a full picture. This is the MSM as I see it. Now, if you would have listened to my radio show this morning I think that you would have found a better more thoughtful discussion of all of the major candidates including Edwards.

ecthompson @ 99:

Doubt that it is pure BS. There is a segment of the population that will not vote for a Black man...or woman. I have no idea how large that segement is but it clearly exists.

ecthompson @ 99:

Doubt that it is pure BS. There is a segment of the population that will not vote for a Black man...or woman. I have no idea how large that segement is but it clearly exists.

He wrote..."Here in Iowa we saw many Dems that voted for Edwards because of the race thing."

Ok, maybe there was a racist element (always will be) but they weren't just all going for Edwards. That's "pure BS."

Chris Matthews certainly doesn't know anything about bartenders in Pennsylvania. I live in PA and there is no lack of bartenders in PA. Just check out any bar on every corner in any town in PA and you will see business is booming and plenty of bartenders.

"... i don't wanna patronize you, elizabeth..."

and yet...

The 8000 Lbs. gorilla in the cage is that the corporations and their lobbyist are running the show in the beltway. It is corrupt and rigged and anyone who opposes the system that the journalist are a part of is going to get ignored or denigrated.

Edwards is the only candidate who from the very beginning has attacked the system and the party elites. Howard Dean did it as well and the DLC crowd jumped at the chance to join with the GOP and try to destroy his political career because he changed the way campaign funds are raised by doing it grassroots across the net rather than peddling influence to the Washington Lobbyists.

Again...I will state the fact that I was here in Iowa voting the other night and have EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to rebut your comments on me playing the race card...I witnessed it 1st hand Lenin...Stalin...Rasputin(whoever)...lol..j/k. At any rate, keep up with pushing Edwards and cussing everyone out who disagrees with you...it wil get you far. Plus...like I said...you will get Hillary. Congrats.

Vets for Obama

John Edwards got his start as a trial lawyer defending poor people against corporations. The people he represented had nothing and no one else would take their case except John Edwards. He even did pro bono work. I find that admirable. Lawyers that argue for the benefit of the corporations against the people. That's the real trash in lawyers.

art @ 114:

... THIS HAS BEEN SOLD HIS CREDIBILITY TO W THE MINUTE THAT TREASONOUS MURDERER LANDED ON THAT AIR-CRAFT CARRIER!!!

LONG LIVE OLBERMAN

Will Keith call out Tweety on the EE interview?...Or more to the point...How big are his balls?

Occasionally you see a guest of Tweety's who is astute enough to know that you have to talk in run-on sentences and leave no gaps in order to finish your point . This actually causes a physical reaction in Matthews . He begins to sneer, starts looking off camera and loses his coloring . I'd love to see this man interviewed by him :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcTFAMwgG64

Johnny2Bad @ 109:

ecthompson @ 99:

Doubt that it is pure BS. There is a segment of the population that will not vote for a Black man...or woman. I have no idea how large that segement is but it clearly exists.

ecthompson @ 99:

Doubt that it is pure BS. There is a segment of the population that will not vote for a Black man...or woman. I have no idea how large that segement is but it clearly exists.

Agree!!! Totally agree with that.

Look if you looked at the speeches on Thursday night, Edwards speech was good but is wasn't great. The substance of his speech was good. He didn't make me feel anything. I agreed with him on all of the issues. I saw that he was passionate but he needs to be able to make the audience feel passionately that he is the man.

With Hillary Clinton, she speech was about change but she was standing next to her husband on one side and Madeline Albright on the other.

Obama on the other hand was passionate and moving. The speech wasn't about him but instead it was about us and the hope that we have for the future. Great speech.

He wrote..."Here in Iowa we saw many Dems that voted for Edwards because of the race thing."

Ok, maybe there was a racist element (always will be) but they weren't just all going for Edwards. That's "pure BS."

BoilThemInTheirOil @ 22:

Watching Tweety this election cycle, he hints strongly of man-love for McCain and Obama. All of the other candidates are worthless.

Right Right Right ..... He gets all sweet and cuddley when he smoos about Obama and McCain .... then turns into a raging maniac when he talks about Hillary .... then completely forgets about Edwards... maybe Elizabeth ought to leave well enough alone...

Ben Dover @ 82:

... there is no way I can support him until he starts being the one with the testosterone in their family.

really? you really did just say that?
never thought of you as backwards before... my mistake...

Obama's speech here.

I put together what I consider the best parts of Edwards, Clinton and Obama's speeches from Thursday night - here.

Jenny'O @ 51:

Also not mentioning Edwards at all is The Huffington Post.

there is an article about bill and hillary clinton, britney spears, huckabee vs obama, hillary clinton says blah blah about obama, dorothy hammel has breast cancer, don't eat too much at the mall, huckabee, joe biden, hillary AND a possibility of new indiana jones movies!

bye ya huffpoo...it was getting fluffier all the time but now they have nothing there that i can't find by the truck load at cnn, nbc and cetera.

They are afraid of being labeled like the Daily KOS. Fuck em.

ecthompson @ 123:

Johnny2Bad @ 109:

ecthompson @ 99:

Doubt that it is pure BS. There is a segment of the population that will not vote for a Black man...or woman. I have no idea how large that segement is but it clearly exists.

ecthompson @ 99:

Doubt that it is pure BS. There is a segment of the population that will not vote for a Black man...or woman. I have no idea how large that segement is but it clearly exists.

Delivering a good speech isn't the same as governing well and being able to think on your feet. Anyone can learn to give a good speech. It's actions that matter. Even the chimp could give a good speech with enough practice. Chimpy showed that he doesn't know how to govern nor think on his feet.
Agree!!! Totally agree with that.

Look if you looked at the speeches on Thursday night, Edwards speech was good but is wasn't great. The substance of his speech was good. He didn't make me feel anything. I agreed with him on all of the issues. I saw that he was passionate but he needs to be able to make the audience feel passionately that he is the man.

With Hillary Clinton, she speech was about change but she was standing next to her husband on one side and Madeline Albright on the other.

Obama on the other hand was passionate and moving. The speech wasn't about him but instead it was about us and the hope that we have for the future. Great speech.

He wrote..."Here in Iowa we saw many Dems that voted for Edwards because of the race thing."

Ok, maybe there was a racist element (always will be) but they weren't just all going for Edwards. That's "pure BS."

Filthy Harry @ 130:

CoIntelPro @ 84:

Filthy Harry @ 67:

I think part of it is that despite all the bull they talk about journalistic integrity, the whole media has the mentality of a carnival barker and they see us all as marks.

Both Obama and Hillary have obvious qualities ripe for a degenerate showman to harp about to increase the 'drama' and sell tickets to the show.

From a media entertainment point of view, Edwards is boring. He should do his next speech in drag and black face. It would REALLY help his media problem.

Edwards is NOT boring! The truths he tells go against the popular meme of 'sell shit or sling shit, whichever works!' that drives assholes like chrissie. Edwards was not supposed to 'place', much less 'show' in the iowa race. Notice how cnn/blitzer tried to dismiss edwards before the caucus. now they are trying to ignore Edwards. THAT should tell you something. It tells me they hope he goes away so either corporate shill stays the frontrunner so that the fixed convention outcome will be more believable.

Hillary is a corporatist
Obama is a corporatist.
Edwards is a populist.

Which one will the corporate media support?
Which one will the corporate media denigrate?

I repeat, from a carnival barker/MSM perspective, Edwards' narrative is much less a compelling 'sell' than Hillary's or Obama's. You're talking politics, I'm talking about entertainment. And which do you think drives the MSM more?

Yeah, we get why its happening...we just don't f*cking like it.

If your grasp of Russian history is as good as your take on American politics i think i will give the nod to Rasputin.

Thanks...because I am a Social Studies teacher with an emphasis in World History. I don't claim to be a political guru like yourselves... I am simply an American that wants change. I stated what we all saw the other night in my own precinct. I love how everyone thinks my story is b/s and are probably 3 or 5 states over. My whole problem with Edwards people is that they make Obama out to be Bush III and it just gives people(like myself a headache). I guess I could have been more clear on my point of "subtle racism"...I am not suggesting that the KKK came in and rallied for Edwards. But alot of us noticed(mostly with older crowds-60+-) when we were picking up non-viable canidates voters that people were making "rash" statements about Obama.

CK -

You are 100% correct. The MSM wants to service up a small controversy every night. Nothing too big just big enough to hold our interests. Just think about all of the great stories that never made the MSM. Hell, the Scooter scandal was being blogged about here and everywhere else before the MSM even picked it up. Have they ever mentioned the Downing Street memo? Or National Security Presidential Directive? Nope.

joanie @ 138:

I would love to see that Senator named Zell ????? At last convention, Zell started yelling at Tweety saying he would like to come and beat him up. Tweety was astounded. His expressions were priceless. Does anyone have a link to that? Tweety was frightened and Zell mush have been hundreds of miles away. We need to send Zell to see him.

Zell Miller from Georgia who was a Democrat in name only.

Gorgei @ 137:

If your grasp of Russian history is as good as your take on American politics i think i will give the nod to Rasputin.

Thanks...because I am a Social Studies teacher with an emphasis in World History. I don't claim to be a political guru like yourselves... I am simply an American that wants change. I stated what we all saw the other night in my own precinct. I love how everyone thinks my story is b/s and are probably 3 or 5 states over. My whole problem with Edwards people is that they make Obama out to be Bush III and it just gives people(like myself a headache). I guess I could have been more clear on my point of "subtle racism"...I am not suggesting that the KKK came in and rallied for Edwards. But alot of us noticed(mostly with older crowds-60+-) when we were picking up non-viable canidates voters that people were making "rash" statements about Obama.

Were they anything like this? "I don't know if a black man can ever be elected President in this country?"

Cuz if that's the kind of "rash statement" you're talking about...I ask myself the same thing....and the answer ain't pretty.

Seems Nicole doesn't like Chris Matthews.

Seems she stoops to name calling.

Is Nicole in the first grade or is she an adult?

Can't quite make the assessment based on her narrative.

Ultimately Chris is right and wrong. Trial lawyers do run doctors and companies out of town. Sometimes that's a good thing.

Sometimes though, not having a doctor available - because they all ran away - is a bad thing.

No professional or company will offer their services in a jurisdiction where the legal foundation has more risk than reward. That's a simple fact of life.

So the challenge for Pennsylvania is to find the right balance point.

The challenge for Nicole is to offer narrative that is thoughtful and not spiteful.

Cats r Flyfishn @ 126:

Obama can't be trusted. He takes money from lobbyists and he thinks that he can negotiate with insurance companies to make changes in health care. Who is he fooling? Anyone that believes that insurance companies are going to give up their big profits to negotiate fairness with Obama. Obama is a conservative Democrat. Edwards is a progressive. If you read about the "Progressive Party (the Bull Moose party) and what it stands for, then if you are progressive then you will support the only progressive running which is Edwards (not counting Kucinich).

Signed - Middle Class Progressive Americans for Edwards.

Actually it is worse than you think in regards to health care. When Obama was in state government in Illinois this was his idea of negotiating with the lobbyists on health care:

In Illinois, Obama dealt with lobbyists
But as candidate, he faults Clinton for ties

Excerpt:

By the time the legislation passed the Senate, in May 2004, Obama had written three successful amendments, at least one of which made key changes favorable to insurers.

Most significant, universal healthcare became merely a policy goal instead of state policy - the proposed commission, renamed the Adequate Health Care Task Force, was charged only with studying how to expand healthcare access. In the same amendment, Obama also sought to give insurers a voice in how the task force developed its plan.

Lobbyists praised Obama for taking the insurance industry's concerns into consideration.

"Barack is a very reasonable person who clearly recognized the various roles involved in the healthcare system," said Phil Lackman, a lobbyist for insurance agents and brokers. Obama "understood our concern that we didn't want a predetermined outcome."

In one attempt at a deal, Obama approached the Campaign for Better Health Care with insurers' concerns, asking if the group would consider a less stringent mandate than requiring the state to come up with a universal healthcare plan. The coalition decided not to bend, said Jim Duffett, the group's executive director.

"The concept of the Health Care Justice Act was to bring the sides - the different perspectives and stakeholders - to the table," Duffett said. "In this situation, Obama was being a conduit from the insurance industry to us."

Obama later watered down the bill after hearing from insurers and after a legal precedent surfaced during the debate indicating that it would be unconstitutional for one legislative assembly to pass a law requiring a future legislative assembly to craft a healthcare plan.

During debate on the bill on May 19, 2004, Obama portrayed himself as a conciliatory figure.He acknowledged that he had "worked diligently with the insurance industry," as well as Republicans, to limit the legislation's reach and noted that the bill had undergone a "complete restructuring" after industry representatives "legitimately" raised fears that it would result in a single-payer system.

"The original presentation of the bill was the House version that we radically changed - we radically changed - and we changed in response to concerns that were raised by the insurance industry," Obama said, according to the session transcript.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/09/23/in_illinois_obama_...

If this is Obama's idea of negotiating with the lobbyists from the Insurance and Drug companies... I want no part of him.

Diogenes @ 146:

The establishment does NOT want John Edwards as the nominee, because they know he would win in a landslide. They think if they ignore him, he will just go away.

Yep...and if the voters in the upcoming primaries don't step up, he'll have to go away.