Hannity attacks Obama's Church: Was against a religious litmus test for Romney
Another chapter of: Here it comes...Sean Hannity and Rick Santorum attacked Barack Obama's faith and church last night on H&C. This is nothing new for Hannity since he smeared it before. How quickly he forgets (OK, he didn't forget) that he defended Mitt Romney's faith and was vehemently opposed to a litmus test being applied to the former LDS Governor. Expect more of this scurrilous behavior from the wingnut base of the GOP. Harold Ford correctly reminded Spawn of this fact.
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Ford :...even when Mitt Romney, I believe you were supporting for president for a period of time, I mean there were questions about his religion which I thought were completely out of bounds.
Hannity: But this is different, this is a little bit different.
Ford: The Mormons said I couldn't go to Heaven for a period of time and I believe it's been renounced now.
Sure Sean, he's not a Republican so it's A-OK to attack his religion since you're a Christian of some sort which means that---I don't know what it means. Is it fair game to dig deep into the beliefs of (CPAC's new hero) Romney's faith? To Spawn Hannity it wasn't.
"HANNITY: You know, Governor, I've had many, many friends that are members of LDS, Latter-Day Saints, Mormons, and I know you probably are frustrated, because I know every interview I've seen you in, this issue keeps coming up. It does not come up for any other candidate. And it's really troublesome to me, because it seems like they are creating for you a religious litmus test. And I will tell you, fundamentally, I view this as unfair. Your thoughts?"
What he appears to be saying is that we need to take religion off the table in the context of the politics and especially the presidential campaign, and to disregard the religious preferences of the candidates. It's "fundamentally unfair," and Mr. Hannity is exactly right. Of course, I would add that it's unconstitutional to mix religion and politics all around, but you know -- baby steps onto the elevator...read on
It is amazing to me that as many as 19% of our population are SO ridiculously dumb as to listen to these morons. Oh well, every society needs it's knuckle-draggers.
Right-Wingers Now Have Conclusive Proof of Obama's Secret 'Cult'
Why would anyone give an ounce of credence to man-on-dog Ricky?
In other news, Florida has suffered a massive power outage after a nuclear plant was taken offline.
Hannity is a slack-jawwed moron.
I'd pay to see him get his ass kicked.
An Average Joe @ 5:
I sent him an email long ago, suggesting that he get himself waterboarded on television so he could show us how safe it is.
No reply yet...
romney was apart of a religion that was officially racist until the 60's. thats a cause of concern.
Weaseldog @ 4:
I think I might be about the only one in Florida that still has power. It came close to me as our mall and many traffic lights are out. But so far, so good here at my house.
Barrett D @ 7:
And which religions are officially non racist?
Litmus test, now to run for president we have to pee on a strip?
Weaseldog @ 4:
Had more than 15 items on the Express Line?
An Average Joe @ 5:
Seperated at birth?
http://www.rob-clarkson.com/duff-brewery/cletus/03.jpg
To me all of this stuff is edging around the racial problem these morons have. They won't come out and say it yet, but that's what they are hinting at and it sucks.
If you want to attack obama about something he says in his speech, that's fine. It's called disagreeing. But if all you have is this bs about his patriotism, his church, etc, that is one pathetic attempt to take him down.
Rick Santorum? Who the fu*k cares what he has to say about anything....and I do mean anything.
GOOD CALL HANNITY. In time of crisis presidents turn to their church and faith, so we need to know how much barack hussein obama {the muslim from kenya} would respond to the advice of his radical pastor in making decisions that would be in the best interest of the American people and not his cultural brothers and comrades.
lets see - first you say Obama is a Muslim from Kenya - gee - i havent seen anywhere that he grew up in Kenya, you moron. Most half-brained neocons wont make that ridiculous claim. And according to McCain, Barack has never been south of the border! I think Kenya certainly qualifies as south of the Border...lol check a globe, pinhead. Second you go on to contradict yourself by saying he has a pastor - either he's muslim or christian -he can't be both - and you cant have it both ways. You seriously need to get your facts straight -even your man McCain knows the muslim crap is a lie - maybe you should get out more and do some real fact-checking before shooting your mouth off - cause thats NOT an opinion -thats a BIAS.
There's a major difference between Mitt and Obama and everyone knows it.
Obama is a Democrat and Mitt is a Republican.
This makes ALL the difference.
The clown-like Hannity fans would not vote for Obama in the first place... This is news how?
Pilot @ 14:
Is this a snark?
Ford is less useful than LIEberman. I previously did not think that possible.
Ford embodies a combination of self-hatred and self-sabotage, the likes of which I have never seen before.
Unbelievable!!!
Every time I hear crap like this, it reminds me to go over to http://my.barackobama.com and donate another $25.
I've been active in politics since the early 1980s, and never donated money to a campaign before this year. I've donated more than a dozen times, thus far.
Actually, I think it's quite fair to delve into the candidate's religious beliefs. Religious faith is delusion, so it's good to know exactly how insane our president is.
If you believe that Jesus visited Montana, that's crazy. If you believe that Jesus rose from the dead, that's crazy. If you believe that a magical horse flew Mohammed to heaven, that's crazy.
There should be a religious litmus test. Anyone professing religious faith should be excluded from public office on the grounds of mental illness.
Okay, maybe that's harsh :)
Why is this nutcase Santorectum on TV? Oh , its FoxNews! The network that employs Mark Furman.
pissed off patricia @ 17:
More like a brain fart
Hannity,
You are a heinous ass!
Senator Clinton we have good news and bad news about the results of your presidential litmus test.
The bad news is you're not qualified to be president
But on the bright side you're pregnant.
As a practicing Roman Catholic let me say there is more to being Catholic than claiming the title. It means living by the standards of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This is something Sean Hannity has never done in his public life. He is at best a nominal Catholic, not a practicing Catholic, and being nominal counts for nothing. So, bottom line Hannity is a religious bigot.
I think that a candidate's religious beliefs are fair game too. I support Obama but I think he needs to address this, and not just say that religious beliefs should be off-limits.
Still, I'm a little surprised that Hannity takes this tack because it forces him to admit, at least tacitly, that Obama is not a Muslim.
StirFry @ 20:
They never met a disgraced Repug loser they wouldn't give a job to...paging Alan Keyes!
Oh my, someone must have forgotten to tell these right wing idiots there was a movement going on. Guess who is not seeing the rainbows and hearing choirs sing when Obama glides by, yep the rest of the world. There will be no stone left unturned in the life of Obama, of that I can assure you. You were warned, now he is going to experience what Hillary has been going through this entire campaign, lets see if he handles it as well as she has. Having fun yet?
I don't watch Hannity and I don't value his opinion on anything and I consider myself evangelical conservative.
Tootie @ 27:
Obama is doing a great job so far...
Rusty
Really? You think you should need to address your religious beliefs as part of your candidacy? Why?
I know that candidates will, because they are forced to, but why do you find it necessary?
Friends like these, eh Harold? This is what you really want to be associated with? For shame.
The 1st thing the DEMOCRATIC President should do is reinstate the Fair Doctrine law.
That should save America from ever seeing a bunch of clowns masquerading as "News folks" ever again.
do you ever feel foolish trying to make sense of this stuff?
you should. it's pointless and doesn't matter. let it go. buy a dog. get a girlfriend.
JasonS @ 19:
Maybe not. ;<[)
Agent Provocateur @ 31:
repugs feel no shame, whether or not they are closeted.
Speaking about religion, just how upright is Hannity?
He's as pure as the driven slush. Kettle meet lamp.
Tootie @ 27:
I getting up from my desk right now to have a movment of my own.
insHannity and Sanitorium have somethin in common (hint: 4 legs)
CoIntelPro @ 34:
I would share your views escept that there is not a secular candidate running, and Senator Obama's religious beliefs are quite liberal and not fundamentalist. In addition, Obama's views on the seperation of church and state are exactly what secular people should want in a candidate.
Sean Hannity should just go piss up a rope. The miniscule portion of voters who will heed what he says wouldn't have voted for Barack anyway, so what's he achieving? He's only out to fill his own pockets by pandering to the mouth-breathers and knuckle-draggers.
The only people who care what these twits have to say are their families and the 20 some percent who still believe that Saddam attacked the US on 9-11 with weapons of mass destruction.
An Average Joe @ 5:
I pay to be allowed to be the one who got to kick his sorry ass.
pissed off patricia @ 8:
pissed off patricia @ 8:
I bet it gets reported on the news like this:
Today Florida had a massive power outage.
Local authorities are saying that they believe it is not Al Queda related.
But it could of been.
How safe is your toaster.
Homeland security is recommending that every buy duct-taoe to protect their toaster in case of an attack by Al Queda.
Yeah Sean, you tell them...who would Jesus vote for?
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 9:
And are you really that fond of pretending that apples and oranges are the same thing?
Wow... Hannity and Santorum... two of the biggest LOSERS of all time. Why would anyone with a brain listen to these fucktards?!
Rusty Shackleford @ 25:
I would vote for a Satan Worshiper; if only he would promise me free healthcare like every other industrialized nation on earth.
So Hannity has a problem with the United Church of Christ. Hannity must be an islamofascist.
"[N]o religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3.
Fanon @ 30:
Because it's a part of who the candidate is. As an atheist I think religious belief is irrational. Thus, I'm interested in knowing just how irrational the candidate is. Are they only a little irrational (Christmas-and-Easter church attendance, just for appearances' sake), or a lot (Huckabee)? If they're "true believers," then how will that affect their decision-making? Are they end-timers? Do they believe God's law supersedes man's? And so on.
John the Elder @ 24:
In light of his support for Mitt Romney, should we call Hannity a jack-leg Catholic?
JeD @ 49:
That doesn't apply to the electorate. We can apply any test we want to candidates.
Dear John:
Looks like you caught the moment just right in that picture: Hannity preaching and the other two praying.
Gratitude has never been a characteristic of these dim witted idiotic grown up infants anyway.
Don't hold your breath either.
You ever think that the jack booted republicans run stories like these just to distract people from all the corrupt bull shit going on in our government.
Bajasteve @ 40:
Agreed. The failure of the right-wing blowhards to derail McCain's candidacy shows that even fellow wingnuts don't take them seriously. Hannity scares no one.
Why does Hannity hate Christianity?
Chuck @ 55:
Constantly as in 24/7. Works like a charm.
ysbaddaden @ 11:
A Mobility Scooter took out a light pole.
pete @ 57:
He loves it. It allows him to use it to advance his own personal agenda.
L.A. Confidential @ 60:
Hannity's the Good Christian Obama's the Phony one we all know the game.
Hannity, Santorum, Ford. No liberals or minorities on that panel.
WAWJK?
Who's Ass Would Jesus Kick?
Left&Left @ 62:
Of course not they would symbolically skin em alive on TV dissecting their bullshit.
Today before a McCain speech in Cincinnati, a local radio hack by the name of Bill Cunningham introduced McCain but before the intro, this guy was blistering Obama in all the most disparaging ways. He kept calling Obama, by his full name and saying all sorts of shit. McCain arrived at the hall after this guy had said all this stuff and told the media it would not happen again. He was apparently pissed about the things Cunningham had said.
Later on his radio show, Cunningham got pissed at McCain because McCain was pissed at him.
So what does cnn do? They invite Cunningham to be on one of their shows tonight. Now the guy will get nationwide attention for being an asshole. Nice going cnn.
On, and while Cunningham was doing his screed on Obama, the audience gathered there to hear McCain were cheering and clapping to everything the creep was saying.
Rusty @50
My darn quote thing won't work.
I guess I see your point.
pissed off patricia @ 67:
Yep. They're Republicans.
Hannity a hypocrite??? What are you going to tell me next... he's a close-minded, latent-racist, and a gluttonous-pig too? How far do you think my imagination will stretch!!!
/snark
Woah,
Just because SEAN HANNITY criticizes Obama's church association, it doesn't AUTOMATICALLY mean Obama is innocent. That's like saying all we need to do is get Hannity to say ANYTHING bad about who you like in order to justify your liking.
It's almost as if people are not being judged for their own merits, but on WHO likes them and who doesn't like them. If people like a person, then others will like them without even considering the person's ethical and moral virtues. Same thing for hate. This is, of course, a symptom of a sheepified nation, where independent thinking does not exist anymore, where many people's opinions and judgments are made solely on the basis of what other people say. That's a clear-cut sign of the decline of this country. I hear lots of talk about how certain people are ACTIVELY destroying the nation, like corporations and government. But this is merely an optical illusion. Evil cannot be an ACTIVE or POSITIVE force of change. Evil spreads wherever good disappears. Evil is the absence of good, it is not on top of good.
This country's esoteric focus on useless and inconsequential things is a result of a dumbed down nation (government funded education), and dumbed down nations are FEEDING GROUNDS for evil forces, like religion.
Obama IS involved with a racist church, and Romney IS involved with an equally moronic church. Religion, which used to be the opiate of the masses, is now the POISON. Religion is one of the most evil ideas ever devised by mankind. The occupation of Iraq (it's NOT a war, repeat NOT a war anymore, the war ended a long time ago) is influenced by religion.
I saw above in one of the posts a questioning of how in the world can 19% of the population listen to these idiots. Well, the topic they were discussing is religion, and the OVERWHELMING majority of the population is religious, all the people in this video are religious, so both the population and the people in the video deserve EQUAL loathing and contempt.
Rusty Shackleford @ 53:
That's only as long as we don't cross (so to speak) the Establishment Clause.
Individiually the electorate can, maybe even as parties, but not as tax exempt churches.
Barrett D @ 7:
Add to that, the Mormons didn't allow African-Americans to be priests until 1978.
Let's also note that Romney, like BOTH Hannity and McCain, is staunchly pro-segregation and favors the reinstatement or rebuilding of Plessy vs. Fergusen, in addition to being a staunch racist white supremacist.
ysbaddaden @ 72:
Yeah, I meant individually.
An Average Joe @ 5:
There would be a CROWD that would pay to see that.
He is honestly the biggest hypocrite of them all. I mean, I despise bor and limpballs more, and savage and snowball make me want to vomit, but vannity is by far the biggest hypocrite of all of these jack asses...partly because I think he really believes the bullshit he spews.
The reasons a church would have these values is because of people like Hannity.
Obamas supporters just need to explain to uneducated retards like Hanity that there WAS outright racial discrimination in the form of segregation in the US and because of that being black became it's own culture, not just it's own race. Not only that, but it occurred IN LIVING MEMORY to many people STILL ALIVE. Blacks can be racist, but usually talking of black values and black power is talking about giving voice and confidence to a minority who have come out of the shadows, and are still living with, the legacy of centuries of oppressive racism. Being white and talking of white values and power in a society where white values dominate and whites have most of the power is rightfully seen by most enlightened people as either pure racism and/or cultural hegemony.
One day there will be no need for racial and cultural minorities to have to write racial and cultural manifestos into their organizations, but until the likes of Hannity continue with their "you're free, you should shut up and be happy with that!" attitude, these minorities will continue to do so.
Why didn't anyone ask Rick Man-on-Dog Santorum about his affiliation with Opus Dei?
In the dark ages people turned to priests for answers to questions like "Why aren't my crops growing?" and "Why is my horse sick?" Today, a person would be laughed at for asking a priest these questions instead of a horticulturist or a veterinarian. This is because the latter two have proven to give much more helpful answers to these questions.
In 2000 many people voted for george bush on because their priest or religion or sadly, Hannity advised it. Many of these people will think twice before following that advice anymore and slowly but surely all will realize that religion consists solely of bad answers to tough questions. Then we won't have problems like this and silly pundits that draw false credibility from foolish beliefs.
what a bunch of fucking religious hypocrites
most white people think jesus was white....
get over it.......he wasn't
Hannity and the Repugs are deeeep in Desperation Mode. They're waaay past Panic Mode.
It's beautiful to watch actually.
Drew @ 71:
from the church's own website:
The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:
1. A congregation committed to ADORATION.
2. A congregation preaching SALVATION.
3. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
8. A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
9. A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
That must sound horribly racist to a white supremacist.
(p.s. Drew, I'm not calling you a racist, or a white supremacist, so don't get your panties in a bunch!)
dadams @ 79:
I like to tell my Repug friends that Jesus was a dark-skinned, liberal who was NOT born in America and had no legitimate paperwork. I then step back and watch their heads explode.
dadams @ 79:
He was Asian
I love the arguement that Jesus wasn't white. Because nobody in that area of the world at that time was white, right? But this is a foolish arguement because nobody in that area of the world at that time could walk on water, heal the blind, etc. This futile attempt to inject logic into religious beliefs will never work. The bible makes no sense, why would Jesus of Nazareth's supposed race have to make sense? If you came at these people claiming that Frodo from the Lord of the Rings was actually God and he would make sure their lives were fantastic you would convince more of them that what you say is true than if you came at them with sense and logic.
DRew
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/obama_church.htm
Obama's church is not racist.
pete @ 81:
pete, don't get your panties in a bunch.
Are you actually, really, for sure saying to me and all the posters here that as long as a church has nice words written that they have good people in them?
Asphinktersayswhat???
Rusty Shackleford @ 51:
CoIntelPro @ 35:
Pilot @ 14:
1) Hey, bro, the Communists and the Muslims ain't ever gotten along. Go play with your buddies in the Berchestgarten, and leave the rational people alone.
2) Naw, compared to what some of my fellow "Christians" state, it is, if anything, too tame.
3) God's law cannot by definition supersede man's law because regardless of how my fundie friends see it, God's law must of necessity be interpreted by humans. Only humans, and in certain denominations such as the one I attend, only male humans can interpret the will of the Divine. Personally, my view of God is that He is more like Crom from Conan the Barbarian. He is all-powerful, and hence He does not give two shakes of a rat's ass about humans. God simply set things in motion and observes but does not act. God has no interest in the affairs of mortals, not when He has so much more interesting stuff to watch in an infinite universe. And....I think if the Fundies get His attention, He'll probably wipe Earth out of existence simply due to it being annoying. Basically, a Deist-Crom-Outer God type deity that doesn't interfere in human affairs.
I challenge the theocratic fascist racist hypocrite racist white supremacist Liar Sean Hannity, along with Liar Rick SCAM-Torum, and self-hating Negro conservative sellout Harold Ford Junior, along with all of the right wing conservatives like Racist Drew and Racist Pilot, to appear on black talk radio, specifically, Chicago's black talk radio station WVON-AM 1690 http://www.wvon.com, and repeat their racist white supremacist lies/distortions about Sen. Obama's church.
So you know, Liar Hannity, 2 of WVON-AM 1690's black talk radio hosts, Roland S. Martin and Clifford Kelley, are both waiting to take you on. Kelley said a while back that Hannity is a piece of s-word. I doubt that Hannity or SCAM-Torum will even THINK about appearing on WVON, or any other black talk radio station, for that matter.
As for why black America hates Harold Ford Junior, click on to either BlackCommentator.com http://www.blackcommentator.com or Black Agenda Report http://www.blackagendareport.com and see why African-Americans correctly and justifiably see Harold Ford Junior as a sellout to African-Americans.
pete @ 81:
LOL
dadams @ 79:
http://sharpiron.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/classic-jesus.jpg
Looks kinda gay, doesn't he?
Chico @ 82:
LOL! I loved that!
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 9:
Islam, through Qur'anic verses, did away with tribalism in what was arguably the most tribalistic society ever: 7th C Arabia. The law of the clan and tribe was all there was. The resistance to doing away with tribalism and replacing it with an Islamic universal brotherhood was enormous and required a great deal of "submission (=islam).
Islam also proclaims that the Divine One created men of different colors and tribes so that they could know one another. (The issues of race & color must have existed at the time and place of the revelation, but they didn't carry the same weight as they do in our very sick society. It is important to see this in terms of contemporary politics and sociology.)
This is in contrast to nationalism and racism and tribalism. Humans are humans. I don't see where Christianity is racist either, although there is not any specific mention of the matter as there is in Islam. It isn't the religions that create racism (ignoring Mormonism for the moment) but the people who misinterpret or abuse the religion they use for their own purposes. A sincere practicing Muslim, who is not looking for a way to browbeat others or create problems, sees all humans as equal. Does this mean that Muslims have succeeeded in overcoming the pitfalls of nationalism and tribalism. Hell no! But they have the path to follow if they so choose it. Christians should look to the Islamic pronouncement that all humans are equal, all souls existed at the Creation, and that color was not really a big issue until people started using it for economic purposes (i.e. a way to identify a slave class rather easily. This happened almost spontaneously in "Christian" American slave societies. Meanwhile, while Muslims owned slaves, they weren't necessarily black and the means were set up for freeing slaves, while disapproving of the practice and offering rewards to slave owners who offered freedom.
Drew @ 86:
Awww, cutie, I just knew you wouldn't be able to let it go, but wow, I was incredibly impressed by the way you said the exact same thing back to me!
According to your illogic, I should expect that all members of any organization actively work against the mission statements of the organization that they are members to.
81 pete Says
(p.s. Drew, I’m not calling you a racist, or a white supremacist, so don’t get your panties in a bunch!)
So you're calling him a transvestite?
R Paul @ 92:
I think it is a pretty valid point that all religions are racist. Christians believe that other religions' non-belief in Jesus is a big enough crime to warrant spending enternity burning in a lake of fire. That is hate! I am not sure what the Muslims think but I am sure the word infidel is never used in an adoring manner. After the crusades I would probably feel the same way.
Finally, racism and religion are both products of stupidity so if the rest of us have trouble separating the two you will just have to show us some understanding.
Why even bring this up? I mean really, we all know these wanks are a bunch of greedy self serving blood thirsty hypocrites. This is a non issue so all it does is confirm what we already know in spades. If I never see Hannity again it'll be too soon. Please put him on ignore!
ysbaddaden @ 94:
Fixed your quotes.
I bet it gets reported on the news like this:
Today Florida had a massive power outage.
Local authorities are saying that they believe it is not Al Queda related.
But it could of been.
How safe is your toaster.
Homeland security is recommending that every buy duct-tape to protect their toaster in case of an attack by Al Qaida.
____________________________________________________________________
I think Musharraf and the Taliban are going to demand all the Rocky Road ice cream available at Kalashnikov point.
"Give up the Haagen Dazs or we will HURT YOU!!"
I know they won't get away with the ice cream, however. Ted Nugent's got a fully automatic carbine, and is hot on their trail (he just left the Bill Maher show taping and all those *&%$#@! liberals really pissed him off).
ysbaddaden @ 94:
That's between him and his lacy under-pants.
pete @ 93:
Wow dude, you are so incredibly naive. I never said all orgs, I said you cannot use words released to the public as guidance, you have to use ACTIONS.
Are you actually saying that the politicians who have SWORN to uphold the Constitution that they are all a bunch of cuties and follow it to a tee???
Uh, hate to break it to you dude, but if by your illogic, there shouldn't be any crime anywhere in the world, because there are laws WRITTEN down somewhere stating that it is illegal. But because of, uh, CHOICES, what is written is merely a GUIDE, but guides are often ignored (like your teachers apparently).
Here's an idea for you: Write on your resume that you are the most brilliant person in the world, you cured cancer, you discovered the unification laws, and solved global warming. Because what is written must be true, you should get at least one interview.
Okay that's yet another laughable inconsistency from a Foxtard. In an endless stream. Now all the people watching Hannity can't be doing so to laugh at his foolishness. Some people must lap this up. This begs a question: When you have the short term memory of a goldfish how do remember to breathe?
pete @ 99:
You know, I don't wear female garments, but you sound like the discriminatory one. Do you have something against clothes or something? Clothes are made out of material...does material frighten you?
Did school let out early today?
Is that some Santorum I see up there? Ah yes, that frothy mixture.....
Drew @ 100:
I thought "words mattered".
Huh. Guess not.
Kyle @ 95:
I won't try to change your mind towards what passes as "religion" for most people. I refer to what I believe is at the source of that urge that makes people search for "religion." This is not what is passed down to you from your family either. It is at the core of each soul. At that level, Islam teaches that God/Allah/the Divine whatever you want to call it has created different tribes and colors and races "so that they might know one another." I like this way of looking at the matter. I don't enjoy being with people who look like me all the time, although I have nothing against that either. But I get another sort of energy from meeting people who speak different languages, have different customs, foods, jokes, etc. It is normal for me, and anyone else for that matter, to be interested in different "religions" as well, as long as they aren't trying to introduce me to the Inquisition. Why should a Christian go to hell if he/she steps inside a synogogue or a Hindu Temple? This comes from people and their misinterpretation of what they should understand from their teachers, prophets, and holy books. It comes from fear and lies, not from any real "religion" in my estimation.
CNN JUST FINISHED REPORTING ON AN ATTACK ON OBAMA BY A SUPPORTER OF McCan'tProduceAPieceOfLegislationUnlessItBenefitsMyLobbyistFriends
So apparently, the GO sign has been given on the Unlimited Attacks on Obama Strategy.
Anonymouse @ 19:
Wow...Really? The "early 1980s".
Funny stuff, "AMouse". Very funny stuff.
CoIntelPro @ 107:
mccan'ts already had his revenge. He'll give us all carpal tunnel syndrome with those nicknames of his.
Drew,
You keep talking, but all I keep hearing is:
"blah blah blah incoherent blah blah blah logical fallacy blah blah poorly used diversionary tactic."
Keep trying, maybe someday you'll make it out of the minor leagues.
Fanon @ 97:
Ich danke ihnen.
Drew @ 102:
My neighbors have something against my not wearing clothes.
Coming from Hannity, who attends the most unChristian church in America, I doubt anyone is listening.
Johnny2Bad @ 105:
Words MUST matter for Obama, because he feels guilty about his bad actions. Anyone who focuses on words has something to hide. That should be clear to any intelligent person.
Obama's bad actions include, but are not limited to:
1. Voting to fund the Iraq occupation three times(!!!!!) (using the neo-con fantasy that not funding the war hurts the soldiers, when in reality it merely hurts the military contractors who are actually the beneficiaries of increased funding).
2. Voted to continue the enforcement of the Patriot Act, the third worst document ever thought up and written by man (beaten only by Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto in its absolute viciousness towards fellow man).
3. Voted on a bill containing REAL ID, which will effectively END YOUR PRIVACY.
4. Will not decriminalize medicinal marijuana, even if it means putting 85 year old glaucoma sufferers in PRISON!!!
Obama is all NICE WORDS, but EVIL ACTIONS.
If his actions matched his words, he wouldn't be in the running anymore, and he would have joined the ranks of Kucinich and Paul as the only ACTION oriented politicians left in Washington.
pete @ 109:
You are like Charlie Brown and The Peanuts in class. Instead of learning, you tune everything out, and thus stay ignorant.
Fox news appears to be the garbage collector of the fallen republican stars. Santorum,DeLay and more, the biggest liars and scum bags in Congress find a cozy home to dish out more of thier BS on Faux News. Fair and balanced right??? These guys are neither.
Drew @ 114:
Of course as president he would not have the authority to decriminalize anything. However, he seems to have satisfied some medical marijuana proponents: http://granitestaters.com/candidates/barack_obama.html
dadams @ 79:
Jesus was white, I saw a big old pitcher of him one time.........on grandma's wall.
Hannity has "many, many friends...". Come on get real you SOB, you have only a
very, very few friends and they are as stupid, irresponsible and narrow minded as
you. Hell is awaiting you and, should it be a reality, it's much, much too good for
you.
CoIntelPro @ 107:
So CNN broadcasts the attack in the guise of reporting on the attack. What a fucking bunch of maroons.
What a laughable attempt by Hitman Hannity to plow his racist crop right through the answer. Yes. The "black values" the "black family structure" the "black spirit"... as if these things are bad and constitute racism in a "black church" and Hitman Hannity's only goal with the question to Ford was to slander Obama and the "black community". He failed, per usual, but his hubris and his own "christian" values are based solely on his "white heritage" and "selective racist" viewpoints.
Who's going to go to heaven? Pure idiocy!
Hannity is certainly against a Lobbyist Litmust Test for McCain.
Hey, Hannity's on a broadcast network. I wonder who in his company is on the MCampaign...
ysbaddaden @ 90:
Kyle @ 95:
1) Meh, I don't believe God can be defined by humans. It's pointless to guess His will, because with an infinite universe and all the life thereof, why pay attention to this backwater? Anyone who tells you God spoke to them is either a liar or deluded. If He exists, the sheer size of space alone and the power He possesses immediately point to the conclusion that Man is Nothing to God.
2) Well....he did spend a lot of time alone in the desert with twelve men.....if you get my drift.
HOT DAMN the viagra bunch sure jump and clump for Obama when anybody dares,,,,,dares I tell you say anything about him...but when the same people flamed and slurred Hillary Clinton the added fuel to the flame....hope you can find a big enough cod piece for what you THINK you have.
Rusty Shackleford @ 117:
Of course he can decriminalize it. He can do it by vetoing any bill that contains marijuana criminalization!
WHat happens today is that certain states want to make medicinal marijuana legal, but the federal government overrides such events. A President can stop this from happening. They can change the law, as Bush has so eloquently demonstrated.
Drew @ 125:
No, they can't. All the president can do is change how the law will be enforced, as Obama has said he will do. Because marijuana is already illegal under federal law, decriminalization would require action from Congress.
What Spawn and Man-On-Dog don't and will never understand as that Obama's church is trying to build up the black community. The white community is already built up, partly with slave labor, and the systematic disenfranchisement of other groups.
I am an ex-Mormon, and I don't think the position of the LDS Church was that blacks could not go to heaven, as Ford said, but could not hold the priesthood, which is given to all MEN. The LDS church has--at least on paper--abandoned its racist stance, but it is still sexist, as women cannot hold the priesthood. I wouldn't want a president who belongs to a sexist church.
He is part of a dangerous church ... he's a christian
Good screen shot of Santorum. He looks like he is sucking on a lemon
Barry @ 116:
Let em keep hiring those scumbags. It makes it even more obvious what garbage that news channel is.
Sertain @ 118:
did your grandma serve koolaide from the pitcher? you find pictures on the wall.
Hannity is trying to frame this as a religious issue, but really the church's stance seems to be pretty much the same as the NAACP. Would Obama be a threat to whites and other minorities if he were a part of that organization? I don't think even Hannity would try to go there if that were the case, but as it is a church, that stance is all of a sudden wrong in his eyes.
Frankly, I think it is high time we all get over it, the NAACP should open its doors to others who have been disenfranchised. I grew up a poor white kid in a poor mixed race neighborhood. The opportunities were few in my neighborhood. If you believe in affirmative action, and minority advancement, it should go by zip code, not race. My education sucked just as bad as the minorities I went to school with.
Of course not everyone agrees with me that it is time to stop allowing any group special privilege for their race, color, etc. but as long as the NAACP and other organizations are still in existence, Hannity should just shut his privileged rich white ass the fuck up. This has nothing to do with Obama's faith.
hilarious! 'my religion is better than your religion'.
yes, this kind of debate is a necessary distraction from worldly topics such as how US students score lowly in math and science tests compared to other children around the world, and how to stop the 3,000 to 5,000 Iraqi violent deaths expected to die this year because of our invasion, the energy crisis, etc....
Rusty Shackleford @ 126:
Oh here we go again with the "change".
Change? Like how?
Listening to Hannity I am reminded of something my brother told me years ago. I am not sure if this is true - in fact I strongly expect it is not - but it should be. According to the story back in the bad days MLK was being questioned by reporters in the South. A Southern reporter suggests to Dr. King that by demanding "special" rights for Negros he was himself being racist. To whit Dr. King with typical Preacher cadence supposedly said.... "Mr. (Reporter), I have been all around the world, I have met with white people, black people, red people, yellow people. But the only kind of person I can't stand is an ASSHOLE!" True or not it illustrates a point. Mr. Hannity is an Asshole! Finally as a white person I must say I can understand why African Americans should feel pride in their race. It is a requirement for those who have been downtrodden to rebuild their self-esteem. It is not equivalent to white people being racist. Also I am no fan of the Ford family but I do think Harold acquitted himself well here.
Drew @ 134:
I guess you should look at the link I provided.
Look, I know you're all tore up that your boy RP bombed so miserably with the people, but you really need to quit blaming others for Mr. Paul's colossal failure.
Sertain writes, "Jesus was white, I saw a big old pitcher of him one time."
He pitched against Cy Young and lost 1-0 although he tossed a three hit complete game and struck out seven.
Rusty Shackleford @ 136:
HAHAHA
This is where all Paul-haters have it wrong.
Ron Paul did not fail miserably with the people because he didn't get elected. He WON because his ideas have spread throughout the country more than any other candidate's has. Obama's "message" isn't really a message at all, it's more like a daily affirmation with no substance to it.
I AM blaming others for Paul's loss. I blame the corrupted MSM not only for Paul, but for Kucinich as well. I blame the so-called "experts" who cannot understand his ideas, so they ridicule him. I blame other politicians like Obama, Clinton and McCain for not working at fixing the real problems of this country. Make no mistake, the biggest threat we face is not a few unscrupulous mortgage brokers, or a few crazy people living in caves somewhere, no, the biggest threat we face is the government's fiscal irresponsibility. They must be irresponsible because of the nature of how the state works. They do not use profit and loss so they spend spend spend and waste waste waste. If not today, then tomorrow. But tomorrow is now today, and that means the shole country has to WTFU before it's too late. Yes, you have heard this before, that the world is going to end if so and so is not elected, blah blah, but history has PROVEN to us that governments that intervene in the market ALWAYS end up screwing it eventually. Greece, Rome, US. They are all different cases and at the same time all the same. The only difference today is that it is impossible for a few enterprising individuals to start their own country if their own government gets too big. The US became a country because the British government got too big. Now the US government is too big. But there is no other land that we can escape to and be free from those who do not want people to be free. This country is filled with people who want to hand-cuff and shackle everyone else because of an alleged antagonism between free peoples. These people are the international bankers, the intellectuals of the universities, and all the political bi-partisan hacks both left and right.
You really think blame cannot be placed on anyone? Have you not SEEN the MSM for like the last 30 years?
Cats r Flyfishn @ 49:
My kids go to a UCC church, whats with hannity talking about all this white folk black folk stuff?
why didn't he talk about how "God is still listening" or the fact that this church practices tolerance of the LBGT community?
Oh yeah cuz then he'd have to figure out how to dodge the racist label again...
I'm a Democrat, an avid Obama supporter and even a long-time member of the United Church of Christ but I have to say that I also have a problem with Obama's church but not for the ass hat, racist, political reason the Hannity does.
I have an issue with it because, for all their talk about being a church dedicated to fighting for civil rights and equality, they aren't even an "Open and Affirming" congregation. "OnA" is a designation within the UCC where churches officially declare their belief in, support for and practice of inclusion of GLBT people in the full and equal life of the church.
I find it sad and a bit hypocritical that Trinity is not an OnA congregation and has made no move to become one. I have no issue with them being African/Black-centric, more power to them for that, but I do have a problem with their very un-UCC heterocentrism which is evident on their website.
Is this why Faux Noise is in second place in the ratings behind CNN now?
Breaking News, Hannity: White is not Black.
I know, I know, that's a hard concept to grasp for a myopic bonehead like you, but wake up and smell the coffee.
The historical challenges facing African Americans in the United States (you know, little hassles like deep rooted institutional racism, for example) aren't the same as those for whites. Not by a long shot, and even a white male like myself knows that.
Speaking of which, few things bug the hell out of me more than hearing some white guy, especially a privileged one like Sean freakin Hannity, start shooting off his ignorant mouth about racism. Walk a mile in the shoes of somebody who has actually experienced racism first hand, Hannity, before you play the race card, or else sound like the narrow minded asshat that you apparently are.
spawn insannity spews again.
when, oh when will this creature call back under the slimy rock he came from?
The Mormon church says that women are damned if their husbands go to hell. It does not matter how pious and upstanding the women are. So why is Obama's church bad and not Mitt's.
The congregation I serve is UCC and we are O&A (Open & Affirming). But there are many UCC congregations in my Conference who are not O&A. I don't judge them, Zeke. Trinity UCC is a predominately African American congregation. There are still issues within the African American community with regards to LGBT persons. That congregation is making a difference not only in the Chicago area, but across the country by starting new UCC congregations. LGBT is not one of their priorities. just like many Euro-anglo UCC congregations.
I know the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, pastor emeritus at Trinity UCC - not only a gifted preacher, but a drum major for justice. If Obama heard even a fraction of Rev. Wright's proclamation of the gospel, then the country will be well served.
This reminds of something new I learned from the NYTimes (Sunday, I think). In an article about his father's village in Kenya and how proud they are of Obama, it mentioned that his father was (is?) a polygamist. I thought it strange that I have read many news reports and blog entries about Romney having polygamist ancestors. But no mention about Obama. Of course, he had no control over what his father did. I find it interesting for the same reason that I try to find weird things in my own family history. I am particularly amused and proud to note that I discovered that in the city where I live, the first person flogged for fornication (back in the mid 1600's) was one of my ancestors. Good on him.
Obama has never gone into detail about what he believes. I don't assume his views are necessarily his church's views, or his ancestor's views. I assume the same about Clinton, about Romney, and McCain. The only person I don't assume this about is Huckabee-- he made his living being a Baptist minister and toeing the Baptist line, so I assume he believes all of that.
Until Obama makes a statement one way or the other, we can't know what he really believes. I don't agree with his minister, and Obama has made a point of not involving the minister recently, so I assume that means that he also doesn't totally agree with him.
Call it what you will Liberal Rev, I still call it hypocrisy. It's absurd to say that they should get a pass because they are a predominantly African-American congregation.
I find it completely offensive that you, a UCC pastor, act as if GLBT people asking to be treated equally and included fully in their church are asking to be "prioritized" as if they are asking for preferential treatment. Way to use fundamentalist rhetorical tactics. Where is it that you are a pastor of a UCC Church?
Oh, and by the way, if you really are a UCC pastor of an OnA congregation then you should know that the term is "OnA" not "O&A".
So hannity is vying for a religious test to disqualify heathens.
personally I think Hannity might be suffering from the same Symptoms Glenn Beck is. From alcohol abuse and now is on a dry drunk and does not follow the 12 steps of AA.
What the Catholic Hannity should look closer at. Is that Catholics and Christians are very different from one another in their churches and doctrine. Christians do not have a Vatican. Priests cannot wed but Christian pastors can. Is there a problem here?
Clannity is a Christian? I thought he's a Republican...
BTW, when he was yapping about the white this and white that, I thought he was talking about the Mormons.
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