Pentagon Makes It Official: No Link Between Saddam & Al Qaeda
By Logan Murphy Monday Mar 10, 2008 6:15pm<!-- story_videobox.comp -->
An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.
The Pentagon-sponsored study, scheduled for release later this week, did confirm that Saddam's regime provided some support to other terrorist groups, particularly in the Middle East, U.S. officials told McClatchy. However, his security services were directed primarily against Iraqi exiles, Shiite Muslims, Kurds and others he considered enemies of his regime.
President Bush and his aides used Saddam's alleged relationship with al Qaida, along with Iraq's supposed weapons of mass destruction, as arguments for invading Iraq after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Read on...
And you know if they had found anything remotely resembling cooperation between Saddam and AQ, it would have run 24/7 on FOXNews. Of course, we DO know about operational links between Donald Rumsfeld and Saddam Hussein, but the AQ connection was always sketchy at best. We can only hope that more lies will be uncovered once we have a Democrat in the White House -- provided the Bushies don't destroy ALL the evidence.
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Let the unbombing and de-invasion begin.
Still, the threat that Saddam posed was a serious one. Very, very serious. Threat.
Nothing of news here. I think we can all pretty well rest assured the invasion and overthrowing of Saddam Hussein's rule was orchestrated for oil and a hollow threat of WMD's.
Yep. It's a train wreck.
I've been saying that for years. Why didn't they just ask me?
A democrat will not make one iota of difference in terms of information and fact finding. If it had it would already have been done by now.
I wonder how much manpower and money they put into that investigation.
When can we take back the country again?
Crooks are the same @ 6:
It's a step out of the mire.
What other options do we have?
Side note: I've seen the word "iota" far too often as of late.
Oh yes this little article will undo years of neocon propaganda.The return to reason is at hand.
hahahaha!
Will they stop saying they were linked now? Please. No, ok.
Pentagon Makes It Official: Bush will be remembered as an asshole.
BushCo created their boogey man Saddam to gain support for the attack on Iraq. Many people knew this all along.
Wow. 6 years late. 4,000 dead U.S. soldiers. 500,000+ dead Iraqis. U.S. reputation destroyed. $3 trillion spent. Trillions more debt. Stuck there for 100 years. Al Qaeda stronger. Taliban stronger. Afghanistan completely unstable. Whoops! Disgusting.
Huh? Wha.........? No Link!? Whodathunkit?
Not even a hot link........'cause muslims don't do pork.
Don't you guys read Hitchens? There was an al-Qaeda guy in Iraq one time. So, war totally justified.
(that was sarcasm, so de-twist your panties)
Can this be used as evidence in a class action civil suit? I want my friggin money back.
But at least we've made it safe for the president of Iran to walk around sans body armor in broad daylight. You'll let me know as soon as any American official can do that, won't you?
David Lewis @ 10:
Faux won't.
what i find amazing bout all of this, is that the media always misses point. its not that the "evidence" we had linking Saddam to Al Qaeda was wrong. There WAS NO EVIDENCE linking them other than heresay from liars or people with no track record, which is the weakest evidence there is.
and for that, we are in a 3 trillion dollar war, 40,000 wounded us troops, over 4,000 dead, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraq's, millions displaced, our nations credibility forever tarnished, a weakened military which isn't ready for another front if one were to open, and $105 a barrel Oil.
Bin Laden is free, Afghanistan is reversing course, Pakistan is in turmoil. Russia under "I saw his soul" Putin has accomplished am authoritarian coup over deomcracy
Oh, but saddam was hung, and like his head was like cut off from the rope. it was awesome. he was a dick.
Well, we will just have to tell the Iraqis that it was all a big misunderstanding.
They will be fine with that. Doncha think.
They also:
They told us Iraq had “Yellowcake”
I’m personally partial to Babka
Now we’re stuck in a HUGE quagmire
A nightmare right out of Kakfa
While most people readily admit this mistake
Some act like they’ve had a lobotomy
They’d probably believe it if Bush proclaimed
That Saddam had invented sodomy
[From One State Two State Red State Blue State]
Well, DUH!
Fallon "resigns and retires".
Bush is doing more to eliminate our military than Al Queda and the Taliban could ever do, and he's eliminating our top, best officers.
If Fallon was the last anti-War on Iran top officer, we're in bad trouble.
There is already ample evidence of the wrongdoing of this administration that is public knowledge. The Democrats have chosen to do little to nothing about any of it. A Democrat in the White House won't change this. I agree with Crooks are the same at #6.
Sidney Scooter III @ 16:
The bad news is we borrowed the money. We haven't payed for it yet.
JasonS @ 17:
Having gun control in the US might help that somewhat... hmmmn, no? Didn't think so.
Bottom Line: Bush lied soldiers died.
Ash"Hussy"Williams @ 8:
What I hope for is the truth to come out, whatever it may be (but I think we all know what that will be).
Crooks are the same @ 6:
Wrong. Dead wrong, in fact.
Fight Back. Expose the Lies.
What I'd like to know is who is profiting most directly from the opium trade out of Afghanistan... seems fairly obvious, I'd say.
"Oopsie"
~herr dubyah
What is the statute of limitations on treason?
My message to the Pentagon: Thanks for the clarification. I am sure that all of the families of the dead Iraqi, American and Canadian citizens who are dead as a result of this criminality will appreciate that.
Crack work!
If only they'd done that investigative search BEFORE WE SPENT 3 TRILLION DOLLARS and SUNK THE ECONOMY into a NEW DEPRESSION.
But, much as the last depression, the wealthy robber barons have nothing to fear. They've made their billions from their war contracts and will be able to ride this one out much like the last, abandoning the ship in a comfortable lifeboat leaving the rats scurying for a piece of wood to float on.
Lynda Hussein from DownUnder @ 32:
Denzel Washington?
If a person owned a boatload of stock in some corporation that stood to make billions in no bid contracts in the event of a war with Iraq, is it totally unreasonable to speculate that said person might go to great lengths to provoke such an altercation? Why has the trail gone cold on the Nigerian forgery vis a vis the wanna-be Italian intelligence spook? I'd bet he could point toward some connection with the origin of that forgery to such a stockholder. If even the appearance of such naked corruption occurred in the highest eschelon of government in some other country, we'd hear about it 24/7, but the US media never mention the possibility. I say the Italian forgery should be investigated thoroughly - that's a smoking gun, unlike much publicized terrorism, Al Q, etc, it was created out of thin air, and there's no good reason to presume it's not linked to the overall deception that led to this debacle.
Better investigation: The Bush cartel knew there were no ties between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda in 2002.
And Impeachment is off the table.
People who voted to protect themselves from Saddam Hussein and his threat, now find themselves protected while their house is being foreclosed on. You can feel sorry for them. Blame them for their own misery due to their stupidity. Or you can blame the god damn media that is in the business, very profitable, of selling lies to the american public. True story.
It is a Pack of Lies.
EVeryone must remember!!
The Testimony of George Galloway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk
Brilliant Testimony, Brilliant Speech on the "Pack of Lies"!!
No link? Yeah, NO SHIT. Nothing like waiting until the last year of the last term of a dickhead's rule to finally speak up....assholes.
You know,if I was sufficiently venal I'd be tempted to bid on the document shredding contract for the last six months of the Bush administration. It's gonna be a biggy. Who am I kidding?. That's gonna be a no bid KBR job.
No... fucking... shit... Sherlock.
From day f*cking one, it was all about the oil. Send these assholes to jail.
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THIS ISN"T A JOKE. IMPEACH. TREASON. OIL. SUFFERING. MISERY.
Let's push up our efforts to turn the tide on these criminals.
Research the topics you have hesitated to look into.
Speak out in the areas you've resisted to speak out.
The Death alone is staggering. The economic slavery!!!
Please.
"In times of change, the patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." - Mark Twain
I almost fell off my chair just reading the headline and through my tears I barely read how much it cost. Somewhere a ChinaMan is smiling. 'Yes,American Imperialist,I will gladly take on Your debt. My children will ThanK You when Your children have No employment. Thank You again ,America.'
You want to hear the funny part...
Ahh, come on now, what's the use of spreading democracy if
the Iraqi government officials don't get their chance to pull a Spitzer?
....my sarcasm kills me....
mdg650hawk @ 13:
I concur..."whoops"
Thanks George.
Mi$$ion A¢¢ompli$hed
I Am A Banana @ 40:
Can we demand impeachment, like NY repugs, or just continue being lukewarm democrats afraid of a fake cowboy accent?
lucid fiction @ 50:
Believe Me They already have. The Fun part is the won't get arrested.
Blue Lensmadinejad @ 2:
To what, and to whom?
CheneyIsADick @ 54:
To His own Family. To US - Not so much.
Just now? Have I been caught in some Roving time warp?
The proper term for this debochery is:
Criminal Fuckery.
EliteLemming @ 56:
Exactly. Rove did His job well.
An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein’s regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden’s al Qaida terrorist network
Brought to you courtesy of a grant from the No Shit Foundation.
David Hawes @ 48:
Dave @ 19:
Dave: Afghanistan was going to reverse course from the beginning, as the region has never been successfully conquered, not even under Alexander the Great and Ghenghis Khan. Russia has been authoritarian since the Moscow Tsars took over. Over a thousand years of autocracy aren't going to reverse themselves, particularly not when Putin's autocracy increased Russia's prestige.
As for Saddam, he was a crucial link holding Iran and Israel from each other's throats that we removed thinking it was our right to do so (it wasn't) in an act of hubris far beyond anything wise, and close to something ridiculously stupid.
David Hawes: Preaching that "Yellow Peril" garbage, I see.....
Just a few statistics for everyone to chew on:
[Just a little info for you. And mine, unlike yours, is truthful. Deleted. Off topic-Sitemonitor]
Let me guess, the next revelation will be there was no link between the truth and anything the current administration ever said. Yhen you'll tell us the sky is blue and water is wet....assholes.
General_Rennenkampf @ 60:
You can believe as You will. I'm 55 and the same shit The Thugs are preaching Now is the Same Shit They preached as My friends went off to South east Asia. Afew came back. Some did not. and guess what? VietNam went commie and the planet did not spin off it's axis.
David Hawes @ 55:
And is that a
goodreason to invade Iraq?IMPEACH THE BAS . . . Sorry for screaming. Impeach or Convict.
CheneyIsADick @ 64:
Nope
Jill23 @ 61:
Jill, I hate to tell you but, the post is not about cable news or liberals. It is about the lies that got us to invade a sovereign nation, costing the lives of over 4,000 Americans, 500,000 Iraqis and wounding of over 1,000,000 Iraqis and 40,000 American soldiers.
Jill23 @ 61:
You are on the wrong blog troll. Try Free Republic where the moronic 19% like you spew that kind of garbage freely.
now where did i puts those pesky weapons of mass destruction... i know they're here somewhere...heh heh heh... maybe under my desk... or back over here... heh heh heh
YOU GOTTA LOVE THAT CUTE BUSH GUY
And convict the idiots that voted for Bush. I know you can't do that. But damn there are alot of stupid Americans roaming around.
harry @ 52:
There has been an outcry from the people of the U.S. to impeach the Pres. It's fallen on def ears in Washington. Pelosi on down have betrayed us.
Ron @ 67:
Jesus F'en Christ I heard that turd 'love it or leave it' a thousand years ago 52,000 of My generation came home in a flag draped box. F That shit.
Maybe someone could send the memo to Christopher Hitchens. He was still insisting there was a link as recently as last month on Maher's show.
oh. 'ya mean what we knew the second we heard it 7 years ago?
Ron @ 67:
Yea, Jill is one of the stupid Americans I was talking about.
All told there were 500 plus lies Bush publicly said about the Iraq War. 500 of them. And Jill is probably one of those dumb Americans that fell and continues to fall for every one of them.
crazytown @ 74:
Yup
drshatterhand @ 73:
Yeah, watched that Maher show...sure wish Bill would have Hitchens on again and
push the entire report, paper clips, stapels and all down Hitchens's throat..
Jill23 @ 61:
Just a few statistics for everyone to chew on:
[Deleted post. Off topic-Sitemonitor]
America- Love it or Leave it
Let's try that on. Hitler's Germany - love it or leave it.
You GOT it. When the next fucking train/boat/plane out of here, much like the sentiment about THAT fucker 45 years ago.
Blue Lensmadinejad @ 2:
He posed no threat to the USA!
I saw Taxi to the Darkside tonight. One thing in the movie was how the Bush regime has gotten through legislation where they can't be charged for war crimes for their lies and warmongering after they slither out of office.
Impeach.
Indict.
Imprision.
Anyway.
Blue Lensmadinejad @ 2:
...to Dick Cheney's Halliburton stock options.
Verdillac @ 79:
I'm holding out Hope that blue was being sarcastic. he's gone,now so who knows?
Verdillac @ 79:
Let him be. Dogs like to snap at flies.
Ruthless People @ 81:
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheneys_stock_options_rose_3281_last_1011....
David Hawes @ 82:
So is Jill. Same person?
Ron @ 85:
hope so But They breed in strange ways.
AND what is going to be done about it? NOTHING. Not a damn thing. They'll all retire with fat pensions and security detail for the rest of their lives.
Oh yeah, I just remembered: Osama Bin Laden, you know, the guy who.... . He purportedly killed 3000 people on 9/11. That ought to earn him a place on the FBI's 10 most wanted list, right?
Well, guess what? He's not on it.
Why?
The FBI does not have any evidence to support what
the White HouseChimpy accused him of.A year ago, all of a sudden KSM, Khalid Sheik Mohamed was the one who did it (9/11).
Give me a fuckin' break.
Everybody should by now have figured out who is behind 9/11. Do I have to spell it out?
Unfortunately, word of this will not spread much, and the redneck idiots who support the Lying Murderer in the White House will continue to do so
Truth be told,'blue blood' is Not an idiom in Kentucky. It's a fact of 'Life'.
Blue Lensmadinejad @ 2:
Please describe this "threat".
capnmike @ 89:
Unfortunately, you are correct. I am waiting for Faux Noise to give this BIG TIME
coverage, but am not holding my breath.
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 91:
This ought to be good. Can't wait.
CheneyIsADick @ 88:
Ummm. The FBI only persues 'domestic criminals'. Like You and Me.
as i remember, hillary was very hawkish in her authorization speech. now, she won't even admit her mistake but is trying to mischaracterize her position at that time. she said saddam must disarm or be disarmed, putting saddam in an impossible position because he had nothing to disarm. anyone who knew anything about iraq, knew saddam ran a closed shop and certainly wouldn't have anything to do with al quaida. they were and are a saudi operation.
David Hawes @ 94:
Ok. Watch your back. I'm safe here in Europe. ;-)
CheneyIsADick @ 96:
Sure You are.
David Hawes @ 97:
Yeah, at least untill they lable me a terrorist for posting comments on C & L, and haul my ass off to Gitmo the next time I visit the US. LOL
CheneyIsADick @ 98:
Now you're getting it.
David Hawes @ 99:
Except it won't be Gitmo. More like the Utah desert.
David Hawes @ 99:
Untill then, I'll just keep listening for helicopter rotors.
CheneyIsADick @ 101:
You won't hear a thing. And nobody else will.
David Hawes @ 100:
I've heard talk about camps being built in the US, speculations on why, but nothing I considder credible. Any idea?
"We can only hope that more lies will be uncovered once we have a Democrat in the White House — provided the Bushies don’t destroy ALL the evidence."
--This is something that I wish the Democratic candidates would make more explicit in their campaigning: that one of their first actions will be to create a commission to investigate the decision making failures and bush administration subterfuge that led to the invasion of iraq, no-bid contracts, etc.
I can dream, anyway...
CheneyIsADick @ 103:
The Thugs will do Anything to stay in power.Ideas? What are Humans capable of? You tell Me.
mongo @ 104:
Go back to sleep. This whole place is corrupt.
David Hawes @ 105:
(P)residential Directive 51, for instance, and my favorite link to support what I'm talking about.
Next your going to tell me there's no Santa Claus. It must be Iran right? Iran has all of those ties to Al Qaeda? No? Well one thing I am sure of it couldn't be our friends the Saudis? What?.... Never Mind
It's been a slice, David. Let's talk more about this crazy world tomorrow. It's past 2 AM here.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
CheneyIsADick @ 109:
Sleep well. I'm too old to give ashit. Peace
RayC @ 108:
A group of cavedwellers got lucky on 9-11. Ever wonder why The Thugs couldn't track down ONE GUY? Can't have a never ending war with no Bad Guy.
mongo @ 104:
I would be selling shredders to the Bush administration but KBR beat me to it.
Doesn't matter that the pentagon says that now ... The 29% r's who listen to FOX will still believe that there was a connection. Why ... It's called ... (wait for it) ... "THE MORON FACTOR"
Is this why the corporate media is focusing on Spitzer? To bury the report? Or is there something bigger coming up??? OOOh. I can't wait.
Stephen Hayes, shut the fuck UP.
An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein’s regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden’s al Qaida terrorist network.
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Unfortunately, at least to my way of thinking, this review comes at least five years too late -- and has about the same effect as closing the barn door after the cattle have already been rustled, sold, and turned into ground beef. Thousands of American military personnel and countless numbers of Iraqi civilians sacrificed, billions of dollars spent which could have been put to good use right here at home...and for what? I think it's safe to say that were he alive today, Dwight D. Eisenhower's answer to that question would probably be "for the benefit of the American military industrial complex." That seems to be the most likely explanation -- indeed, the only plausible one -- for the Pentagon's failure to conduct this "exhaustive review" until long after the damage was done.
My God....nobody pays any attention to these proclamations. Why do they waste their time?
No link between AlQueda and Iraq; also no link, according to the FBI, between Osama bin Ladin and 9-11.
9-11 is not a basis to link US attacks against either Saddam or bin Ladin.
Who, again, in the US intelligence/telecom community, would know enough about the NSA domestic surveillance before 9-11 to plant explosives, coordinate the attacks, not get caught, destroy evidence, but create the illusion that 9-11 was linked with two people unrelated to the 9-11 events?
Blue Lensmadinejad @ 2:
That's a lie. Saddam Hussein and his Iraq never posed a threat to the United States. Never.
The Soviet Union posed a nuclear threat to the USA for nearly fifty years and yet the USA never tried to bring down the leaders of the Soviets.
It was always in the best interest of the United States to keep Saddam Hussein in power because his country was a secular power and a mutual enemy of the Islamic fundamentalists like those Saudis who carried out the bombings on Sept 11, 2001.
The Bush administration was put in power by Christian radicals at the American Enterprise Institute who want to see their "Rapture" become closer in time. Bush administration foreign policy is driven by irrational religious right wing Christian nutcase policy, in my opinion. Bush has stuffed the federal bureacracy with officials who had to pass a religious litmous test. That's why the whole Bush presidency and its administration is so incompetent.
The sad legacy of the incompetent and harmful Bush legacy is the legacy of the American Enterprise Institute and the leeches who feed at it's trough: like that sad discredited field of people called "neoconservatives" - Who called for America to expand it's power abroad at the price of borrowing three trillion dollars from the Chinese to finance the unbelievably stupid invasion and occupation of Iraq. A country which never threatened the USA and which never had any link to the Saudis who flew those airplanes into our towers on 9-11. I hope that Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bush are prosecuted and spend lots of time in prison for the harm they have caused to the United States of America.
10 years from now everything we already knew will be confirmed, and Bush somehow thinks history is going to be kind to him. ROLMAO!
mdg650hawk @ 13:
This isn't the point. The US is spreading democracy. Don't you know there is a price to pay for democracy? Those 4000 died for a "noble cause". 500,000 (much higher than this) died because they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Oh well, think I will take my wife shopping at Wal Mart and sweep it under the carpet or look at the political commercials and decide who I am going to vote for.
There was however an easily proven link between "The Butcher of Baghdad" and Washington.
Never once in the lead up to the war did I hear, "We have some very important intel but it's classified." I might have even believed that. But their "evidence" included an audio tape of bin Laden urging people to support their Muslim brothers in Iraq. That's not evidence! That's just a person voicing concern for their fellow human, something the Bush admin seems incapable of doing.
Robert @ 119:
Unless you count the time he shook Don Rumsfeld's hand really hard that time.
Seriously, which threat?
You mean the Nigerian yellow cake they were proven to never have received?
Or the Iraqi agent that never met with Al Qaeda in Germany?
So that makes Bush/Cheney and gang murderers and war criminals.
Back in 2002, I knew the Bush administration was lying about their unsupportable claims of an Iraq/al Qaeda connection. Simple logic dictated that they were lying.
Just like all religious fundamentalist fanatics, al Qaeda would have liked nothing more than to see Saddam Hussein dead, the generally-secular Baathist Sunnis thrown out of power and a more religious fundamentalist, sharia-spouting group taking their place, to turn Iraq into a country patterned after what the hardcore, religious fundamentalist Taliban had done to Afghanistan. (and what certain hardcore, religious fundamentalist fanatics are trying to do to Iraq today).
Hardcore religious fundamentalist fanatics were a threat to Saddam Hussein’s Baathist Sunni regime in Iraq, so why would he have aided any of them logistically or through supplying them with any WMD, if he had any? No one, in their right mind, would give help or weapons to anyone with the intention of killing them. Saddam Hussein had had problems with the religious fundamentalist fanatics inside Iraq for years (they kept trying to kill him and his family), and he’d fought a war in the 1980s against the religious fundamentalist fanatics next door in Iran.
Besides, al Qaeda had closer connections to Saudi Arabia than they ever had to Iraq. Osama bin Laden was Saudi Arabian. Fifteen of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabian. Over half of the “Al Qaeda in Iraq” terrorists in Iraq today are Saudi Arabian. No financial support has ever been traced between Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and al Qaeda, while there is plenty of evidence linking Saudi Arabian benefactors and al Qaeda.
But let’s look at the WMD issue again. Saddam Hussein would have hardly given any WMD, if he had had any, to people out to kill him. So, did Hussein have any “hidden” WMD that went “missing”?. Claims have been made, following the Bush-ordered invasion of Iraq, that some of Hussein’s Baathist loyalists loaded up trucks to cart off Hussein’s “missing” WMD to a neighboring country (Syria?), which is why at least three WMD inspection teams were unable to find any WMD…except for old, depleted munitions from the 1980’s war with Iran and from the early 1990s.
Logic dictates once again that the Bushites are lying. Why? Because, following the March 2003 invasion, if any WMD had been moved out of Iraq, then wouldn’t it follow (with the borders being so porous) that some of these highly-lethal, fully-charged WMD munitions would have found their way back into Iraq and been used against our troops or among warring Iraqi factions? There has not been one single report in the past five years that any WMD attack against our troops, or against the Green Zone, has occurred. No reports of IEDs blowing up, with the killer being either Sarin or mustard gas (or some biological agent). This proves to me that Saddam Hussein’s government was telling the truth when they said they’d gotten rid of all their WMD years and years ago, presumably during the 1990s when UN WMD inspection teams were in Iraq following the first Gulf War. Which is why the UN WMD inspectors couldn’t find hide nor hair of WMD in Iraq in those few, short months they had before Bush ordered the preemptive, unprovoked, criminal attack on Iraq that began in March 2003.
To put it simply, Bush and Cheney are the best friends the religious fundamentalist terrorists have. They deposed a badass secular dictator in Iraq only to see him replaced by a bunch of dumbass religious fundamentalist terrorists. They got rid of a secular dictator in Iraq, who actually provided a “check and balance” against the dumbass religious fundamentalist nutjobs next door in Iran. Bush and Cheney turned our nation’s attention away from Afghanistan, the home base of the 9/11 terrorists, and plunged our nation into an ill-conceived, mis-managed war in Iraq. leaving Afghanistan to fester and become another haven for the Taliban and the religious fundamentalist crackpots.
No wonder the religious fundamentalists are dancing in the streets in that region…for Bush and Cheney. Every strategic thing that these two fools have done has helped the religious fundamentalist terrorists
No wonder the religious fundamentalists are dancing in the streets in that region…for Bush and Cheney. Every strategic thing that these two fools have done has helped the religious fundamentalist terrorists
Thank you for the breadth and depth of your comment.
Bush never listens to people that he doesn't agree with. No matter how much they know or how little he knows.
The invasion of Iraq and capture of Saddam was unfinished Bush family business.
Dubya is a cruel man.
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Sorry McHillary,
Care to reread that AUMF of 2002 that you didn't reaad the first time?
How's that vote working for ya now?
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And ONLY 5 years after the fact. Did they mention it on Fux? I thought not. (Just guessing, but... )
David Hawes @ 111:
but,but,but we have satellites that can track fleas!
when have superior weapons systems nobody can match in that region!
Our troops are the best trained!
There's no hope for an insurrection to succeed with guys armed with slingshots (okay, I know their better equipped than that)!
We are the visiting team
The Taliban have the home field advantage.
When the captain of the visiting team has no clue, well...
But let's just draw lines in the sand and congratulate ourselves for "meaning it" this time.
The white house has runned out of constitution and are now using evidence for toilet paper.
Max-Hussein-1 @ 128:
I suggest you read Howard Dean's book Worse Than Watergate. He explains in details what the Authorization to Use Military Force covers and doesn't cover, how imilitary force is to be initiated, and how boosh violated all of it.
bamboozled @ 124:
I think this report answers this question. Hussein was helping terrorists to attack HIS Middle Eastern enemies, not the United States. Presumably, he was waiting for the UN to lift sanctions, and had us on reserve to arm him again as ray gun did in the 80's.
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Is it about time for the military leaders who've resigned, been forced to "retire" or outright fired, to organize a military coup on BushCo BEFORE he can invade Iran?!
Time's runnin out guys! Get on it!
chris @ 134:
LMAO!!!! Now THAT'S gotta be the lamest way to blame Clinton for anything I've ever heard. C'mon Chris! Get over it, Clinton wasn't perfect, but Bush is outright dangerous!
Waddayaknow... No link after all.. And hey, it only cost us 2 or 3 hundred thousand dead and maimed... (and counting) including all the civilians and military... and what? 3 trillion and counting dollars and a ruined economy and severely damaged military infratructure to figure that shit out....Not to mention a shattered reputation as a nation. Real smart... And it's these same big brains that are gonna lead us all out of the woods...
Yea.... right........ Anybody else besides me tired of this sickass movie yet???? Wheres the freakin remote.....JD
CD @ 11:
ahahhahhahahhaha! I second that.
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