Why does Lieberman hate McCain? . . err . . I mean, the terrorists? . . or . . freedom??

Ya' just might say McCain, in Iraq, is Confused About Who to Call ‘My Friends’

http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1614

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REMEMBER:

It WAS WMD’s
It WAS ties to Al-CIA-duh
It WAS Yellow Cake Uranium
It WAS Bio-Chem mobile labs
It WAS imminent threats
It WAS suit case nukes

And then…

It BECAME ABOUT bringing Democracy
It BECAME ABOUT a Freedom agenda
It BECAME ABOUT holding elections
It BECAME ABOUT holding elections… AGAIN!
It BECAME ABOUT standing up
It BECAME ABOUT fighting the insurgents
It BECAME ABOUT capturing Al-CIA-duh in Iraq

And now...

It NOW is about the surge
It NOW is staying the course
It NOW is about Parliament
It NOW is about winning an occupation
It NOW is contolling the oil

IT NOW IS ABOUT MAINTAINING THE LIES!

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At least his middle name isn't "Hussein."

McCain isn't the only one who doesn't know who were fighting in Iraq.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, have all made inaccurate statements about who comprises the "insurgency."

Of course, most of the time, the service members who are fighting don't know who is attacking them, or who might. That's kind of the problem with occupying foreign countries.

Blue Taliban Osama Buddha @ 10:

the Vatican City has always been funding Mormons to take over the Rocky Mountain region.

That's why I don't trust the Jews.

"McCain Doesn’t Know Who We’re Fighting In Iraq"

Right! Neither does 90% of the American people.

This guy named Al something or other, right? He's got WMD over there. And his buddy Saddam Hussein is a real ass.

One of the first signs of advancing senility is a partial loss of short term memory... I would suggest that Senator McCain has way too much experience. When one gets old, experiences become more and more similar, and thus jumbled up and compressed in one's memory. Being of the age of collecting Social Security, I can speak with direct personal experience.

Imperial America has an ever-changing list of "enemies" and adversaries as we try to run the rest of the world as a corporate colonial empire or plantation. Sometimes the locals get a little tired of being exploited by wealthy western companies, corporations and countries. Poor John is a little befuddled by all these tiresome details about the many different ethnic and religious groups in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and elsewhere. Actually, peoples, clans, groups and tribes have been in flux there for thousands of years. conquering each other, blending together and then splitting apart. Then Imperial America waltzes in, guns ablazing, and demands obedience. Good luck on getting that. Time to get out and let Afghanis run Afghanistan and let Iraqis run Iraq.

All I could picture was lemmings in brown uniforms and black boots, marching.

This country is not democratically efficient.

The remaining mainstream candidates are remaining, and not leaving, because of their ideas. In McCain's case, he is the liberal conservative that the GOP party thinks can keep dissenting republicans from dissenting to the democrats. Someone like that is by definition a wraith, a fence sitter, an apparition. These types of people have no actual self-taught knowledge about the subleties of foreign policy or economics. They are remaining candidates because they have shown evidence of being able to be "influenced" by "special interests" who "educate" them about "what matters", namely how to enrich themselves at the expense of others.

McCain is ignorant of the middle eastern culture. He has no idea how extremism forms. He is a shell, an empty and moronic non-American vassal that is awaiting corruption by special interests, who are the people who support his campaign.

McQaidaConflator McFibflubbed on the McJunket. Good thing McFaust was there to keep him on McMephistopheles' script...

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This Week's McAKA's (updated) and the Big Pile O' McAKA's

Hi all!
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Drew @ 19:

This country is not democratically efficient.

The remaining mainstream candidates are remaining, and not leaving, because of their ideas. In McCain's case, he is the liberal conservative that the GOP party thinks can keep dissenting republicans from dissenting to the democrats. Someone like that is by definition a wraith, a fence sitter, an apparition. These types of people have no actual self-taught knowledge about the subleties of foreign policy or economics. They are remaining candidates because they have shown evidence of being able to be "influenced" by "special interests" who "educate" them about "what matters", namely how to enrich themselves at the expense of others.

McCain is ignorant of the middle eastern culture. He has no idea how extremism forms. He is a shell, an empty and moronic non-American vassal that is awaiting corruption by special interests, who are the people who support his campaign.

McMaverick isn't remotely a liberal conservative. He talks that way when it gets him somewhere, but he's a political chameleon who for some reason is loved by the press.

He's the stealth candidate for all the scrutiny he gets.

Old Billy Hussein @ 11:

Blue Taliban Osama Buddha @ 10:

the Vatican City has always been funding Mormons to take over the Rocky Mountain region.

That's why I don't trust the Jews.

LOL!
You make a hell of a team - "The Old Blue Bills", perhaps?

Drew @ 19:

This country is not democratically efficient.

The remaining mainstream candidates are remaining, and not leaving, because of their ideas. In McCain's case, he is the liberal conservative that the GOP party thinks can keep dissenting republicans from dissenting to the democrats. Someone like that is by definition a wraith, a fence sitter, an apparition. These types of people have no actual self-taught knowledge about the subleties of foreign policy or economics. They are remaining candidates because they have shown evidence of being able to be "influenced" by "special interests" who "educate" them about "what matters", namely how to enrich themselves at the expense of others.

McCain is ignorant of the middle eastern culture. He has no idea how extremism forms. He is a shell, an empty and moronic non-American vassal that is awaiting corruption by special interests, who are the people who support his campaign.

Nice, and how would you describe the Dem candies?

McCain doesn't know what century it is either.

What a damn fool.

Go Obama!
Go USA!

I give it 10 days at most. Then McCain will be limited to speaking from 3x5 index cards, and his handlers will prohibit him from straying from the script. What would he have done had he not had his his two sycophants, Lieberman and Graham, nearby to bail him out of his mess.

Hey 2! You still here?

David Hawes @ 26:

Hi DH!
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Rico @ 33:

I give it 10 days at most. Then McCain will be limited to speaking from 3x5 index cards, and his handlers will prohibit him from straying from the script. What would he have done had he not had his his two sycophants, Lieberman and Graham, nearby to bail him out of his mess.

All good except you misspelled psychopants.
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This man does not know his arse from a hole in the ground.

Iran supporting Al-Qaeda would be like the Vatican sending guns to Protestant paramilitaries in Northern Ireland so they could kill Catholics.

Is McCain stupid, ill-informed, lying, or some combination of the three?

Yep. I'd say it's about time that the Alzheimer's has kicked in.
This statement shows he lacks basic foreign intelligence knowledge.
I doubt it was a simple gaff, since his surrogates are pushing for him to go to war with Iran.

You can do the math right on this website; look at how many of McCain's endorsers favor a pre-emptive strike on Iran. Statements like this are no accident- they show that he is willing to use the name Al-qaeda to get people to go along with a strike in Iran or anywhere else.

Somali Pirate? Al-Qaeda.
Libya? Al-Qaeda.
Chavez and Venezuela? Al-Qaeda.

Soon he'll be blaming the economic downturn on Al-Qaeda in Switzerland. And if he's president, what will stop from ordering pre-emptive strikes against Mecca or a Motown McDonalds? God know he probably will be too senile or angered to know the difference.

Ditto that

David Hawes @ 45:

Ditto that

I second that Ditto - ditto ditto, as it were, a double dittofication...

I think I may have just dittoficated all over myself...

McBlunder made it into tonight's Worst Persons in the World. Bet it won't be his last time on the podium.

I wonder how much this around the world circle jerk with McCain, his left-hand-man, Joe Lieberman, and his right-hand-man, Lindsey Graham, is costing Joe Taxpayer? Who gives a shit says the Fed, we'll just print more money.

Blue Lensman @ 51:

McBlunder made it into tonight's Worst Persons in the World. Bet it won't be his last time on the podium.

#631, thanks! May I ask what your moniker references, if you don't mind?
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Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 27:

Drew @ 19:

This country is not democratically efficient.

The remaining mainstream candidates are remaining, and not leaving, because of their ideas. In McCain's case, he is the liberal conservative that the GOP party thinks can keep dissenting republicans from dissenting to the democrats. Someone like that is by definition a wraith, a fence sitter, an apparition. These types of people have no actual self-taught knowledge about the subleties of foreign policy or economics. They are remaining candidates because they have shown evidence of being able to be "influenced" by "special interests" who "educate" them about "what matters", namely how to enrich themselves at the expense of others.

McCain is ignorant of the middle eastern culture. He has no idea how extremism forms. He is a shell, an empty and moronic non-American vassal that is awaiting corruption by special interests, who are the people who support his campaign.

Nice, and how would you describe the Dem candies?

Obama is a panderer to special interest groups, because he also lacks the fortitude to stand on his own. He voted to fund the Iraq occupation three times, stating that he doesn't want to hurt the troops (memo to Obama, that is a neo-con lie, because stopping the funding means the private military contractors lose out, not the troops). He voted to re-authorize the Patriot Act, which is a liberty-killing manifesto that is going to take years to eradicate its effects. He voted yea on bill containing the appropriation of funds for REAL ID. There are some other evil things he has done.

Hillary is a conservative wolf in liberal sheep's clothing. She grew up in a conservative family, campaigned for Nixon, and became a lawyer. She had to live through the public humiliation of being cheated on by a spouse, and she is beholden to special interest groups. Someone like that must have hair on their teeth and not care much for liberty or freedom. She also voted for Iraq occupation funding and the starting of it, the Patriot Act, REAL ID, and a slew of other liberty-killing arbitrary waving of a pen. She is smart, but vindictive. I imagine that if somebody crossed her, even though that person was morally correct, they would be politically killed. Her campaign is run by neo-cons.

In short, the remaining candidates offer nothing but the STATUS QUO, of which is heading us straight to the end of America as we know it. They are all warfare welfare candidates, they all want to spend MORE of our money(!!), and they do not want to end the Federal Reserve system, which is the system that mechanically enables all this destructive government spending. If the Fed continues to exist, you can expect the economy to continually worsen, just like it has worsened for the last 35 years, ever since we abandoned sound money.

This country is finished if we stay on fiat money. Fiat systems have NEVER worked in the long run. They cannot, because money must have value. In fiat systems, money has no value, and can be increased in quantity at the stroke of a computer key. This huge risk keeps open the possibility that one day it will destroy the currency, as we are witnessing today. They think they can manage it because it is government's control, but one group of people cannot know the market so well that they can manage its finances. Hayek knew this, so should we. We are definitely on the road to serfdom, but we don't care. We don't care because as long as it is not us personally that is affected, there is nothing to fear. Those in the media are rich, so they don't care. Those in Washington are rich, so they don't care. Those who are not rich are for some reason listening to those who are rich about the state of the nation.

They ask the politicians and media: "I lost my home, is this country ok?"
The politicians and media reply: "Yes, of course we are ok, we still have our jobs. Stop saying such bad things about the economy!"

Rothschilds, sorry, I'm already drunk.

I dunno about 1968, but by 1972 Hillary and Bill were both working in Texas to get Muskie elected.

Drew @ 57:

Great answer, with the caveat on my part that the most we can hope for is that the dem candies may be practical enough to know you have to sell part of your soul to play the game at the presidential level, given the disproportionate influence the wealthy oligarchy has. There may be a chance that the dems at least will slow our charge off the cliff, if not turn it around. There is no such chance with the pubs. What would you suggest is the best practical course for those of us here at this point?

63 Post Americans

One has to remember Al Qaeda is an abberrant form of Sunnism. It's more close to the Shia than we're comfortable with. This isn't the Sunnism of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Egypt that we're familiar with. They all tend to follow Sharia law, but this new group seems more closely aligned with the Islamic Brotherhood, Nationalism, and Theocracy.

However, our last major ally in blocking their inroads was the ol' secularite himself, Saddam Hussein, who wasn't about to share his power with some s**t-load of priests.

All though, truth be told, we're supporting our own Shia version of the Weimar Republican in Iraq, while trying to fight any possible influence, yet unproven, by another Shia government in power in Iran.

Al Maliki and Ahmadinejad have more in common than we would like to accept.

ysbaddaden @ 65:

Bartender! Where's my fuckin' drink?!

...fallin' behind 'ere...burrrrrp!...sorry...
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verna @ 68:

golly, I want to join the group of hussein, it cracks me up. not sure how "verna hussein" sounds, tho. you guys are great!

in-verna hussy-ien?
lol
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One last thought, it's funny that Saddam was a Sunni with the first name Hussein, since Hussein was the grandson of Mohammed who died in battle in the 7th century, and became tantamount to a Shia saint.

ysbaddaden @ 73:

One last thought, it's funny that Saddam was a Sunni with the first name Hussein, since Hussein was the grandson of Mohammed who died in battle in the 7th century, and became tantamount to a Shia saint.

How does a Shia saint mount a tanta, anyway?

oh,one more thing.
Goldwater would be considered a Dem nowadays.

mudshark @ 76:

Drew @ 74:

ysbaddaden @ 60:

58 Drew

Hillary campaigned for Goldwater, and was involved with the impeachment of Nixon. Please provide a link to show she backed Nixon.

You're right, absolutely. But at first she supported him, way back in 1960. Her ideas at the time were not what we would call liberal. She is to democrats what the Kristols are to neo-cons. They both left their parties and joined the other, but never lost their ideas. Link? That would be difficult...I know she supported/campainged for him at one point, I thought it was knowledge everyone knew...but I did find one link...

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn11142007.html

I am sure there are other sources.

I think you are correct (in one part)...HRC WAS a Goldwater girl.........when she was in school.And she did campaign(as a student) for Goldwater. During the 1968 campaign,she got to see what repug's were all about.And came over to the correct side of the aisle.To suggest she's a wolf in sheep's clothing is ludicrous.

She is the number one recipient of lobbyist "donations". Remember when people abhored the amount of money candidates were receiving by special interest groups? I didn't forget.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=K02

Drew @ 78:

I don't think you HAVE to sell your soul to get to the Presedential level, because that would imply you had one to start with. I think only those people who have ALREADY sold their soul long ago find their way to becoming a mainstream candidate.

I'll assume we're both using 'soul' as a metaphor for moral ethics. While it's probably true that politics screens in favor of sociopaths, it doesn't necessarily follow that all successful pols are sociopaths.

I mean really, leave Bill for infidelity, no? Of course personal lives are personal lives and there should be no laws regulating it, but it's clear that power is the most important thing there. Divorce would have ended her political career.

Perhaps, perhaps not - on all counts. Some people have a higher tolerance for infidelity. If women were required to leave their husbands for it, the divorce rate would be muuuuuuch higher. Why would her divorcing him have ended her career?

I agree that there is ZERO chance with the pubs, although the Paul revolution is still going. At least he would change the direction this country is going in the fiscal, civil and foreign policy sense. But truth is not wanted in 2008. One day it will and people will look back and wonder why truth was so taboo. I guess it will take the complete destruction of the economy for people to figure it out. Cuz that's the only direction you can go if truth takes a backseat.

How would Paul's ideas avoid uber-competitive social Darwinism? Or would that be ok with you?

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Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 81:

"How would Paul's ideas avoid uber-competitive social Darwinism? Or would that be ok with you?"

This "uber-competition" you are talking about is what exactly? Competition is what makes the economy more productive, hence more stable and more safe for the average citizen. The "competition" you are referring to is not a violent competition. It is a peaceful one that guarantees that unsound investment decisions and hence resources are used in the best way. All of these things operate directly to improve our standard of living. Without competition, shitty products will never be discontinued.

Social-Darwinism is a misnomer, a fallacy. Darwin's theory is scientific, and can be proven by the natural sciences, which operate according to strict and definable laws. This is because what is being described is a CONSTANT relationship.

Human action is entirely a different issue that cannot in any way be measured or understood using natural sciences. This is because in the realm of human action, no such constancy exists. Humans have choice, and use means in order to achieve ends. These means and ends are constantly in flux.

What you are asking for in advocating the removal of competition is in essence an advocacy of removing change or flux, which is an impossibility. Competition is simply another word for each person using means to achieve their most desired ends. Everyone does this. We do what we do because we expect to end up in a better state than if we did not act. This considering and acting is what competition exactly entails.

Social Darwinism is actually nothing more than a contemporary and fadish way of saying human action in a world of uncertainty tends to result in better results for individuals than worse results, if they are left free to act in their best interests.

Isn't that the point of living? Aren't we all here to live happy and full lives, which means to make choices we think is best? How can other people making choices for us be better for us? If it were, why does it have to be coerced? Doesn't coercion prove that it is not in our best interests, meaning we are NOT better off?

Competition in the economic or social sense is entirely different from competition in the jungle. The former makes everyone's lives better off, the latter is just a description of animal DNA changes.

Drew @ 86:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 82:

Drew @ 79:

She is the number one recipient of lobbyist "donations". Remember when people abhored the amount of money candidates were receiving by special interest groups? I didn't forget.

Where are the candies who did not accept all the $$ they could get? Can't get elected without the big bucks...

Kucinich and Paul. One's out, the other is still in.

And his chances are?

Shia or Sunni it doesn't matter, if you invade and occupy a country you will be attacked. Everyone knows who we're fighting, its IRAQI's that we are fighting. I hate McCain and anyone else's arrogance when they continue to think they can decide the future of Iraq- that us "Americans know better than these savages". The only Iraqi's that aren't for a complete withdrawal of US forces are the ones on US payroll, and even they speak that way so as not to be labeled a terrorist.

The fact that this war continues despite the democratic congress being elected on ending it.....they should be condemned just like the current administration. Its shameful and disgusting.

Drew @ 85:

Sorry Drew, not ignoring this one, just in the middle of feeding time here at the 'ranch' and we seem to be going far o/t. Will copy and get back to you when next we meet - perhaps on the open thread tonite?

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Just think about McCain answering the phone at 3:00 am in the morning!!!!!

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Sporty @ 95:

Just think about McCain answering the phone at 3:00 am in the morning!!!!!

I don't want John McCain answering the phone any time of day or night if he doesn't even know the difference between Iraq and Iran. Just imagine the international incidents that could arise if he which world leader he is talking to.

Quoting myself from another thread, imagine the coming months..

galmud @ 44:

"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, I meant bomb bomb Iran, not bomb bomb Israel."

"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, Hugo Chavez not Victor Hugo."

"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, the Quran not the Islamic bible"

"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, kill Osama not kill Obama."

"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, North Korea not North Carolina."

McCain will need a tiny pocket-Lieberman to bring with him to every debate

He doesn't know about economics either....seems like the right guy to elect....the legacy lives on

Drew @ 85:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 81:

"How would Paul's ideas avoid uber-competitive social Darwinism? Or would that be ok with you?"

This "uber-competition" you are talking about is what exactly? Competition is what makes the economy more productive, hence more stable and more safe for the average citizen. The "competition" you are referring to is not a violent competition. It is a peaceful one that guarantees that unsound investment decisions and hence resources are used in the best way. All of these things operate directly to improve our standard of living. Without competition, shitty products will never be discontinued.

Social-Darwinism is a misnomer, a fallacy. Darwin's theory is scientific, and can be proven by the natural sciences, which operate according to strict and definable laws. This is because what is being described is a CONSTANT relationship.

Human action is entirely a different issue that cannot in any way be measured or understood using natural sciences. This is because in the realm of human action, no such constancy exists. Humans have choice, and use means in order to achieve ends. These means and ends are constantly in flux.

What you are asking for in advocating the removal of competition is in essence an advocacy of removing change or flux, which is an impossibility. Competition is simply another word for each person using means to achieve their most desired ends. Everyone does this. We do what we do because we expect to end up in a better state than if we did not act. This considering and acting is what competition exactly entails.

Social Darwinism is actually nothing more than a contemporary and fadish way of saying human action in a world of uncertainty tends to result in better results for individuals than worse results, if they are left free to act in their best interests.

Isn't that the point of living? Aren't we all here to live happy and full lives, which means to make choices we think is best? How can other people making choices for us be better for us? If it were, why does it have to be coerced? Doesn't coercion prove that it is not in our best interests, meaning we are NOT better off?

Competition in the economic or social sense is entirely different from competition in the jungle. The former makes everyone's lives better off, the latter is just a description of animal DNA changes.

That's a whole lot of words to describe just one facet of our fundamentally different concept/perception of existence. To analogize:

You're a prickly pine, you came from another prickly that's dead now, or will be soon. You assume there were other prickly's before that one, but you never met them. You like being a prickly pine, and if you want to grow bigger than all the other trees and blot out the sun and/or undercut their roots and drink all the water, thats your prickly right. If the other trees die and you are left all by yourself, well, they just weren't good enough at being trees, so good riddance. Then, you'll die, having been a giant prickly to the end.

I am the forest. I've always been the forest, and I want to see all of my trees grow together and live long, healthy lives, and spread to the far corners of the universe, so we share the sunlight and the water. You may become a bigger prickly than any single tree in my forest, but I'll always have more wood(lol), and I'll never die.

Some people just can't see the forest for being a prickly tree...hehe.

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I thoght those al-Qaeda guys were shut down months ago. Maybe the Pentagon doesn't know what is going on.

McCain appears to be worse than Bush which is scary. And with Joe L. ( the Mossad operative) by his side, watch out.

Remember. People tend to vote for presidents or leaders that are not to swift. People in general are sort of like cows in that they are not deep thinkers .

McCain will take the Red States.
So its down to Ohio and Florida again.

Hello Houston. America may have a problem.

Hittin’ the road, Jack,”and I ain’t comin’ back no more no more no more no more”…

“Last word, freak.” - Melvin Udall

out

75 Drew

People fresh from home often carry the same view for a short while. That's nothing significant. Additionally Nixon was a vice president, not yet known for his vices, although they were already calling him "Tricky Dick."

TV watchers of the debate thought Kennedy won, radio listeners thought Nixon won, partially because they couldn't see his five o'clock shadow.

Saddam's LAST name was Hussein. That's why I had to leave last night, my brain was really melting fast.

76 Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein Says:

How does a Shia saint mount a tanta, anyway?

Hopefully with a good Jacque Strap

And later an Ice Pack.

18 Al
"OK you libural surrender monkeys, Chris isnt here so here it is-McCain has the experience to know about natinal security, Republican style friends, and the only thing the good ole US of A needs to know is that whoever they are and wherever they came from, the solution is to drop bombs on ‘em. End of story folks."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Best satire of the day.

McCain was confused.That'll happen when you get over 70.seriously.
And they want him for Prez?

I don’t want John McCain answering the phone any time of day or night if he doesn’t even know the difference between Iraq and Iran. Just imagine the international incidents that could arise if he which world leader he is talking to.

He is still calling the Vietnamese "Gooks" and they are now one of our trading partners. Not a good way to start a new relationship with that Country at all.