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The Washington Post ran a featured piece on McCain's temper this morning " McCain: A Question of Temperament."

In the piece, Rep. Bob Smith said this about hothead McCain:

Former senator Bob Smith, a New Hampshire Republican, expresses worries about McCain: "His temper would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind, it should disqualify him."

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That's pretty harsh...McCain blamed Smith's quote on their ummmm "working differences" from the past and said he's just as angry as every American these days. He's just passionate after all.

"They want change, they want action."

That is true. We want change and action, but we'll only get more of the same Bush policies with a McCain presidency so what exactly is he going to change?

Transcript via ABC News below the fold:

MCCAIN: Yes, I served with him, and had significant differences in several issues. But the point is, look, those -- many -- all -- the majority of those stories 15, 20, 25 years ago. The point is that feel passionately about issues. I work across the aisle. I've been successful in getting legislation done. But the important thing is that, do I get angry from time to time, when I'm investigating Mr. Abramoff and find out they ripped off Indian tribes? When I see bridges to nowhere? And you know what, the American people are angry, too. They want change. They want action. And they're fed up and they're angry with the way things have been going here in Washington.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you conceded in your own memoir in 2002 that your temper had been a problem. How can you assure voters that it's under control?

MCCAIN: Again, look at my record. Look at my conduct on the campaign. Look at -- I mean, look, I am very happy to be a passionate man. I love this country. I love what we stand for and believe in, and many times I deal passionately when I find things that are not in the best interests of the American people. And so, look, 20, 25 years ago, 15 years ago, that's fine, and those stories here are either totally untrue or grossly exaggerated. One thing I've learned over time is that stories get better and better over time.



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Republicans are allowed to be angry and emotional, after all. Democrats are just "hysterical" and "unhinged"...

Now that makes him angry!

And you know what, the American people are angry,
too. They want change. They want action. And they’re fed up and
they’re angry with the way things have been going here in Washington.

McCain claims Americans are angry? Might one go so far as to say "bitter"?

This is a must read article by the Washington Post about John's 'explosive' past.

Maybe his new nickname should Mt. McCain? As in, when's the next eruption?

So angry is better than bitter?

Did he also say "but if you don't really want to talk about it, that's okay"?
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In an ideal world McCain would have dismissed the criticism with the comment, "that fucking fucker can go and fucking well fuck himself."

Alas such wit and erudition have disappeared from politics.

Ian Thorpe @ 7:

In an ideal world McCain would have dismissed the criticism with the comment, "that fucking fucker can go and fucking well fuck himself."

Alas such wit and erudition have disappeared from politics.

Unless you're the Vice President.

Steffie isn't wearing his little beanie with the propeller on top! How can be sure it's Steffie if he doesn't wear his little Beanie?

Oh yeah - that's right ... by the questions he doesn't ask.
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Where is Stephie's follow up like: Do you deny the Renzi story? Do you deny the Grassley story? Do you deny the Cornyn and Cochran story and all the rest?

What about when McCain claimed Elizabeth Edwards took a cheap shot at him when discussing his "government" health care?

Thad Cochran R-Miss says the same thing... McCain is unfit for the job. That is the core. Anger, health, stupidity, and warmongering.

"How can you assure voters that it’s under control?"

McCain assures voters that his temper is not a problem by laughing and smiling excessively during his answer.

Very convincing John.

And you know what, the American people are angry, too. They want change.

Did my eyes deceive me? Did St. John McSame just call the American people "angry"???? The room is all spinnin'........... cuz a........... bitterness........ I love you, Cal. (thud)

He probably is on psychotropic substances to manage himself. In several Republican debates he appeared remarkably serene.

No lapel pins.

Why Do They Hate America?

"investigating Mr. Abramoff and found out they ripped off Indian tribes" glibly says McCain

http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_recips_detail.asp?type=R&Name=John+McCain+(R-Ariz)

I wonder why the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians paid $5000 to McCain (R Arizona)
$1000 in 2000, $4000 in 2004

Its understandable why a local group would support a local candidate. but Arizona isnt Mississippi

poor, pathetic attempt to weasel out of the question. He looked like he was squirming in his seat. you could feel the sweat breaking out under his armpits. Could he have said "well the important point is..." "well the important thing here is..." any more times?

and then to ultimately say: "I'm a passionate man... so I don't apologize for being angry... it was such a long time ago... why are we even talking about it... and those stories aren't true anyway..."

Cover your bases much? Over-compensate much? Lie out of both sides of your mouth much? He is becoming a Saturday Night Live character (like fantastic Kristen Wiig's characters!)

Let's hope that even with the press working overtime trying to make him look good, he will still come off more and more like a lunatic. Let him crack up on TV in front of everyone. After all, he believes things that are evil (war is a joking matter, children don't deserve health care ...) That must cause some significant strain over time even to one as wretched as he. (although, more fool I, for hoping that these evil bastards would let humanity have any power over them)

“They want change, they want action.”

Which is what they'll get once Obama is elected. The Polls can't be believed in this day and age of Cell-Phones. The youngest (quarter of Americans) don't HAVE Land-Lines and are not polled. So we end up with poll's that look one way, but will turn out to be something completely different.

If the young Vote as they look like they might, it will be Obama.

Is that the right choice? It's better than McCain we know, which would mean more of the same.

I don't watch the O'Reilly clips here anymore, nor will I watch the Mr. George ones now.

Grampa gets "passionate", which is really code for fucking angry as hell.

He doesn't love this country; he loves his job because he's made a lot of $ being Mr. POW, being a staunch supporter of the military-industrial complex.

Isn't this the man whose wife is a "c**t"? I guess that was "passionate", too.

Boy George is a lightweight hack.

McCain looks like he is clinching his teeth as he answers this. -A sure sign that he is REALLY angry.

Its clear McCain chuckles his way through questions concerning his hot headed tendencies in an obvious attempt to counter the charge, by demonstrating how "good natured" and "affable" he is.What ever.
I noticed he slipped in another credit taking reference to the Abramoff affair.What is never mentioned of course,is the fact McCain suppressed key damaging evidence against him.

"One thing I’ve learned over time is that stories get better and better over time."

Oh, I bet they do...........

I'd be interested to know what specifically Mr. McCain has done to deal with his excessive anger issue. I'm not buying the "That was 15 years ago but it magically disappeared" non-answer. Eruptions and uncontrolled anger don't simply go away, like having the flu. In the majority of cases, persons with this issue have to either learn how to deal with their emotional interpretations of events (so that abnormal emotional responses don't occur) or learn alternatives to dealing with excessive anger so that it doesn't lead to eruptions. Which route did McCain take? How long was he seeing a trained psychologist to learn how to deal with this issue? Because I would be leery of anyone (but especially a presidential candidate) who said, "Oh, I didn't need professional help for this, it just stopped as I got older." Maybe it did. Or maybe you've simply figured out how to hide it better. Until the pressures of being the leader of the country build up until, like Mt. St. Helens, you erupt with explosive power that destroys the lives of those near you....

....things take on a different hue, testoterone levels sink to new lows, memories intrermingle to the point where you're not entirely sure what you've just said or are about to say, etc. They even let hardcore prisoners out of the Greybar Hotel because they're rarely a threat to society anymore. So I can believe McCain isn't the eruptive personality he was maybe even a decade or so ago. The main thing is, dare we risk a reprise of the Hoover administration should John and Sarah prevail? Road rage notwithstanding, it's time for America to shift gears and get back on the road to reality before all the ice caps have melted and put it so far underwater that we'll be pretty much sunk forever.

Peace out,

- S

Did he remember to give McCain his donuts before the interview? Forgetting to do so turns McCain into a furious raging codger.

talker @ 22:

McCain looks like he is clinching his teeth as he answers this. -A sure sign that he is REALLY angry.

No I'm pretty sure the teeth clenching is related to his crack habit.

Doug @ 25:

Did he remember to give McCain his donuts before the interview? Forgetting to do so turns McCain into a furious raging codger.

the ones laced with McRitalin !

ferrofluid @ 17:

"investigating Mr. Abramoff and found out they ripped off Indian tribes" glibly says McCain

http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_recips_detail.asp?type=R&Name=John+McCain+(R-Ariz)

I wonder why the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians paid $5000 to McCain (R Arizona)
$1000 in 2000, $4000 in 2004

Its understandable why a local group would support a local candidate. but Arizona isnt Mississippi

Nice catch, Ferrofluid! Interesting indeed.

Americans are angry and fed up??

That damned ELITIST!! Who does he think he is?!

So if stories from 15 years ago shouldn't be used against McCain, I guess stuff that happened when Obama was eight years old shouldn't be used against him.

Ok!

I hate to say it, but McCain was untouched. I believe he is - to the average american voter - the next president.

He said things in the interview like (paraphrasing) - 'the american people know I can do that job, now I have to prove to the american people that i can do the job' - in the same sentence. And it was unchallenged and unnoticed. (A number of times he took both sides of an issue in the same sentence - or made a comment that he contradicted in the same sentence)

I believe I am looking into a vast void that is the future of the US.

That's it?

Nothing about:
1. extremist preachers
2. MLK B-day
3. Keating 5
4. 'Bomb' Iran
5. 100 years in Iraq

What a lapdog..

pinkobait @ 23:

Its clear McCain chuckles his way through questions concerning his hot headed tendencies in an obvious attempt to counter the charge, by demonstrating how "good natured" and "affable" he is.What ever.
I noticed he slipped in another credit taking reference to the Abramoff affair.What is never mentioned of course,is the fact McCain suppressed key damaging evidence against him.

not forgetting the Mc-clearances of 25,000 Indian families off their lands to allow the strip mining company access.

anon @ 31:

I hate to say it, but McCain was untouched. I believe he is - to the average american voter - the next president.

He said things in the interview like (paraphrasing) - 'the american people know I can do that job, now I have to prove to the american people that i can do the job' - in the same sentence. And it was unchallenged and unnoticed. (A number of times he took both sides of an issue in the same sentence - or made a comment that he contradicted in the same sentence)

I believe I am looking into a vast void that is the future of the US.

Dont worry the Repugs will do a 'reagan' on him PDQ, the evil VP would be the POTUS very quickly.

There was a flash of McCain's anger when Stephie asked him about health care and why the American people don't deserve the same health care he has had his whole life. McCain shot back, "That's a cheap shot!" and followed up with, "I also received health care from a foreign country for a few years!" His eyes were really blazing at this point. He never answered the question and use his POW days for dodge. Class act he is.

McCrazy's biography: on being a new kid in school b/c of military moving a lot, he was defensive. When a tot he held his breath and fainted (for attention, for sure).

OK. There are millions of us military brats who always changed schools. It IS shitty always being the new kid. It can, however, lead to poise and an ability to observe one's new setting, to find inner security which leads to adaptation or rejection (how I hated high school sororities), or being ok with being outside what doesn't fit for you (there were always other kids there too, and often friends there). What a mess this old insecure man is. I bet he is extra mad when he is constipated.

joshe @ 33:

That's it?

Nothing about:
1. extremist preachers
2. MLK B-day
3. Keating 5
4. 'Bomb' Iran
5. 100 years in Iraq

What a lapdog..

a fully paid up and 'chip implanted' lapdog, ask the wrong question and pain happens.

hit_escape @ 36:

There was a flash of McCain's anger when Stephie asked him about health care and why the American people don't deserve the same health care he has had his whole life. McCain shot back, "That's a cheap shot!" and followed up with, "I also received health care from a foreign country for a few years!" His eyes were really blazing at this point. He never answered the question and use his POW days for dodge. Class act he is.

fully earning his NVA nomenclature of ' Crown prince'

Biggus Diggus @ 22:

Boy George is a lightweight hack.

That is the perfect nickname for him. And summary.

It always amusing to know what is important here at "Romper Room", aka C&L.

Reading the posts here justifies why he founders imposed a minimum age limit on the Presidency.

Keep up the good work. At least the absurdity provides a service of being unpretentiously humorous.

Did you see his face? The fucker was twisting on his chair. Asshole!

trevor-es @ 15:

He probably is on psychotropic substances to manage himself. In several Republican debates he appeared remarkably serene.

how does that tie in with being competent to run for and hold the POTUS job ?

McCain says his anger problem was two decades ago or more...

But didn't he get off the bus with a female reporter who asked him why he was so steamed up DURING HIS CAMPAIGN.

Stephanopoulos did not follow up on McCain's assertion that his anger problem is something from the past, while we have footage of his exchange with the reporter (whose name I forget).

Also, the American people are angry... just not bitter? Or something?

David Ehrenstein @ 16:

No lapel pins.

Why Do They Hate America?

You're right, he ISN'T wearing a flag lapel pin!

Why didn't Staphylococcus ask him why he wasn't wearing one?

Has McCain been treated for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)? Anyone who's been a POW and been tortured would have it, no question. And one of the cardinal symptoms is uncontrolled outbursts of rage. We are at least acknowledging this problem nowadays with our troops in Iraq and have some good treatment methods and drugs to help people cope, but I doubt anything was done for McCain back in the day. The guy is a walking time-bomb.

rewinn @ 31:

So if stories from 15 years ago shouldn't be used against McCain, I guess stuff that happened when Obama was eight years old shouldn't be used against him.

Ok!

I wish I could prepare articles on a blog. Dont use reason - they arent. They are using rhetoric. Reason is a tool used to expand understanding and a base of knowledge. Rhetoric is an exercise in winning arguments.

Rhetoric often sounds like reason and to some is indistinguishable from reason - but it is not reason.

You are dealing with social darwinists here. They are about the win - not about how they get the win. They are good at this, and may not in fact understand the difference between rhetoric and reason. But they do understand how to win and argue. The only way to stop them is to understand them and what they want - and actually stop them.

A fellow I know from Hungary that is like this once said to me - 'why should I do something I dont have to'. And he meant it. If you want him to do something, even if it is the right thing to do or if he agreed to do it in the first place - reason wont suffice, only forcing the issue will.

Believe one thing - they will force you, without as much as a second thought.

Massalla @ 41:

It always amusing to know what is important here at "Romper Room", aka C&L.

Reading the posts here justifies why he founders imposed a minimum age limit on the Presidency.

Keep up the good work. At least the absurdity provides a service of being unpretentiously humorous.

Amazing how critical taking down of McSenile or similar $20 Republican, brings out the maggots from the woodwork.

Mc Cain't__________The petite elite.

Just like the media.... they will report the "news story" .... but suppress the real truth behind the story..

McCain was put in charge of the Abramoff scandal...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/14/13220/6198

Jack’s role as a 25-year bagman for the GOP: hidden.
Jack’s close working relationship with the Bush White House: hidden.
Jack’s close working relationship with the Republican Congressional Leadership: hidden.
Jack’s role in dirty tricks and off-the-books money for the GOP: hidden.
Jack’s role in Medicare reform: hidden.
Jack’s role energy policy: hidden.

In September 2000, Gus Boulis sold SunCruz Casino to Jack Abramoff and Adam Kidan for $147.5 million.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/20/AR200802...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/05958/9566/399/462354
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnqgh-WSNyM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantinos_%22Gus%22_Boulis

ferrofluid @ 17:

"investigating Mr. Abramoff and found out they ripped off Indian tribes" glibly says McCain

http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_recips_detail.asp?type=R&Name=John+McCain+(R-Ariz)

I wonder why the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians paid $5000 to McCain (R Arizona)
$1000 in 2000, $4000 in 2004

Its understandable why a local group would support a local candidate. but Arizona isnt Mississippi

"Haha..."

He probably DID get better health care in Vietnam then 1 in 7 Americans as a POW. What's McSame's point?

anon @ 47:

rewinn @ 31:

So if stories from 15 years ago shouldn't be used against McCain, I guess stuff that happened when Obama was eight years old shouldn't be used against him.

Ok!

I wish I could prepare articles on a blog. Dont use reason - they arent. They are using rhetoric. Reason is a tool used to expand understanding and a base of knowledge. Rhetoric is an exercise in winning arguments.

Rhetoric often sounds like reason and to some is indistinguishable from reason - but it is not reason.

You are dealing with social darwinists here. They are about the win - not about how they get the win. They are good at this, and may not in fact understand the difference between rhetoric and reason. But they do understand how to win and argue. The only way to stop them is to understand them and what they want - and actually stop them.

A fellow I know from Hungary that is like this once said to me - 'why should I do something I dont have to'. And he meant it. If you want him to do something, even if it is the right thing to do or if he agreed to do it in the first place - reason wont suffice, only forcing the issue will.

Believe one thing - they will force you, without as much as a second thought.

well said
its important to turn every stone, lift every rock and expose the slime to the light at all chances.
I look forward to the debelling of the MSM, gonna be sweet, so many unemployed partisan hacks begging for food at RW thinktanks.

ferrofluid @ 48:

Massalla @ 41:

It always amusing to know what is important here at "Romper Room", aka C&L.

Reading the posts here justifies why he founders imposed a minimum age limit on the Presidency.

Keep up the good work. At least the absurdity provides a service of being unpretentiously humorous.

Amazing how critical taking down of McSenile or similar $20 Republican, brings out the maggots from the woodwork.

A typical response. I rest my case.

#45-Staphylococcus---I don't care who you are,that's funny.

here is a good question that would actually be important for the young people to know the answer to before they vote for madman mc bush : how will you be able to deal effectively with the chinese government when you are on the record as calling asians the racist term GOOK? and a follow up : why should asian americans or any minority group vote for you when you used the racist term GOOK and thought that MLK did not deserve a holiday, and your well known respect for the confederate flag

I think it's time to start "name-calling"...how about "Johnny Hot-head?" Simple and media-friendly, don't you think?

Dont forget Abramoff and his cronies are made members or associates of the Mafia, not just RW Repugs.
The SunCruz ex owner was gunned down by the scum after they forced him to sell it to them cheap.
Organized crime families have infiltrated the Republican party at all levels, its hard to tell who is what these days.

Massalla @ 53:

ferrofluid @ 48:

Massalla @ 41:

It always amusing to know what is important here at "Romper Room", aka C&L.

Reading the posts here justifies why he founders imposed a minimum age limit on the Presidency.

Keep up the good work. At least the absurdity provides a service of being unpretentiously humorous.

Amazing how critical taking down of McSenile or similar $20 Republican, brings out the maggots from the woodwork.

A typical response. I rest my case.

then go back to your TLA cubicle or RW office and burble to your fellow trolls.

wijg @ 45:

David Ehrenstein @ 16:

No lapel pins.

Why Do They Hate America?

You're right, he ISN'T wearing a flag lapel pin!

Why didn't Staphylococcus ask him why he wasn't wearing one?

...because he wasn't wearing one either. They apparently REFUSE to wear one. "Staphylococcus" (funny!) forgot and left his pin on his super-hero patterned PJ's.

The Smiths @ 50:

Just like the media.... they will report the "news story" .... but suppress the real truth behind the story..

McCain was put in charge of the Abramoff scandal...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/14/13220/6198

Jack’s role as a 25-year bagman for the GOP: hidden.
Jack’s close working relationship with the Bush White House: hidden.
Jack’s close working relationship with the Republican Congressional Leadership: hidden.
Jack’s role in dirty tricks and off-the-books money for the GOP: hidden.
Jack’s role in Medicare reform: hidden.
Jack’s role energy policy: hidden.

In September 2000, Gus Boulis sold SunCruz Casino to Jack Abramoff and Adam Kidan for $147.5 million.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/20/AR200802...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/05958/9566/399/462354
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnqgh-WSNyM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantinos_%22Gus%22_Boulis

ferrofluid @ 17:

"investigating Mr. Abramoff and found out they ripped off Indian tribes" glibly says McCain

http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_recips_detail.asp?type=R&Name=John+McCain+(R-Ariz)

I wonder why the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians paid $5000 to McCain (R Arizona)
$1000 in 2000, $4000 in 2004

Its understandable why a local group would support a local candidate. but Arizona isnt Mississippi

And he is now the next president of the US.

His wife's family is thought to be connected to organized crime (you mentioned keating). I believe Arizona is supporting McCain.

http://www.democrats.com/john-mccain-married-to-the-mob

As an arizonan - and remembering the murder of Bolles (and other things), it makes me sick.

McCain seemed to be squirming and laughing uncomfortably during his response.

Why are you laughing at Americans who want to and have a right to know about your anger problem?

I think that McCains's biggest weakness is his inability to grasp the details. He supports the war but can't differentiate between Sunni and Shiite. We need to ask who he's going to leave the details to, the same neocon morons that got us into this Iraq quagmire? Lieberman?

He acknowledges that he has limited grasp of the economy. Who's he going to leave the details to, the people who advocate borrow and spend, which is devaluing the dollar? Anyone like those food prices lately?

Health care - he has nothing. I think he wants to end the tax deduction for employers who provide health insurance. Hey, that's a winner, lets induce employers to drop coverage.

Keith Olbermann had some issues to be raised with McCain. We should be using these issues to offset the Republican nonsense. Then, we have the real issues.

As far as young voters are concerned, where is McCain going to get the troops to fight his series of wars, dubbed "rogue state rollback". Reinstate the draft maybe? Bet most people don't even know about the "rogue state rollback" policy. Perhaps just an oversight by the media as they concentrate on the important issues of "elitism".

Dang. I really wish McCain still had a losing Republican challenger hanging on by their fingernails who was furiously investigating him and throwing everything his way to see if it would stick, and saying "It's what the Democrats would use". But as usual the Republicans ultimately stick together and do whatever it takes to advance their party and keep the strategic upper hand. If only the Dems thought about doing this.

ferrofluid @ 58:

Massalla @ 53:

ferrofluid @ 48:

Massalla @ 41:

Amazing how critical taking down of McSenile or similar $20 Republican, brings out the maggots from the woodwork.

A typical response. I rest my case.

then go back to your TLA cubicle or RW office and burble to your fellow trolls.

I thought this site espoused the virtues of free speech??????

Or was I mistaken?

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/30/olbermanns-special-comment-on-g...

Olbermann’s Special Comment on Gingrich: “We fight for liberty by having more liberty and not less”
By: SilentPatriot @ 7:25 PM - PST

Give McCain credit, he's working on trying to appear the opposite of hot-headed (a la George Bush as compassionate conservative, and most Americans will fall for his "my friends," and his smiles and chuckles here.

Gonna' be a long 6 months keeping a lid on it though. Let's hope the moment comes during a debate and we can all yell, "Thar she blows!"

g.mojoblue @ 59:

wijg @ 45:

David Ehrenstein @ 16:

No lapel pins.

Why Do They Hate America?

You're right, he ISN'T wearing a flag lapel pin!

Why didn't Staphylococcus ask him why he wasn't wearing one?

...because he wasn't wearing one either. They apparently REFUSE to wear one. "Staphylococcus" (funny!) forgot and left his pin on his super-hero patterned PJ's.

I want to see the MSM journalists and talking heads start to wear a use their consciences and intelligence more than silly lapel pins
America has a lot of people who claim to be religious and believe in god(s) and afterlives, and right and wrong,
do they think their immoral actions and behaviors are going to not damn them...

Massalla @ 64:

ferrofluid @ 58:

Massalla @ 53:

ferrofluid @ 48:

A typical response. I rest my case.

then go back to your TLA cubicle or RW office and burble to your fellow trolls.

I thought this site espoused the virtues of free speech??????

Or was I mistaken?

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/30/olbermanns-special-comment-on-g...

Olbermann’s Special Comment on Gingrich: “We fight for liberty by having more liberty and not less”
By: SilentPatriot @ 7:25 PM - PST

'I will fight for your right to say anything, dont expect me to like everything you say'

badly paraphrased but you get the gist.

Massalla @ 64:

ferrofluid @ 58:

Massalla @ 53:

ferrofluid @ 48:

A typical response. I rest my case.

then go back to your TLA cubicle or RW office and burble to your fellow trolls.

I thought this site espoused the virtues of free speech??????

Or was I mistaken?

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/30/olbermanns-special-comment-on-g...

Olbermann’s Special Comment on Gingrich: “We fight for liberty by having more liberty and not less”
By: SilentPatriot @ 7:25 PM - PST

The mind of a social darwinist thug is only capable of reasonless rhetoric - childish and it only impresses the speaker.

Massalla @ 41:

It always amusing to know what is important here at "Romper Room", aka C&L.

Reading the posts here justifies why he founders imposed a minimum age limit on the Presidency.

Keep up the good work. At least the absurdity provides a service of being unpretentiously humorous.

Yup, this is a free speech zone; you're free to post your ad hominem, off-point attacks, and be "exhibit A" for the lack-of-substance and lack of ability to debate the issues right.

So let me get this straight. McCain says, in the first minute, "Americans are angry" and there's no follow-up, no issue, no scandal? That's different than the week-long media frenzy over Obama saying some voters are "bitter" because why?

And then McCain is only briefly asked about 2 non-policy issues at the very beginning and very end (Hagee, old age) and 95%+ of the program is dovoted to serious policy matters such as the economy and Iraq, vs. about 50% of the debate the other night being devoted to non-policy right wing "gotcha" questions against Obama and Clinton? And the age issue is negated by Stephanopoulos telling McCain twice how great and vigorous he looks? And Stephanopoulos ccontinously lets McCain interrupt him and fillibuster his answers for minutes?

And then, while Stephanopoulos spent no time asking Obama and Clinton about any of McCain's bad qualities or controversies, he negates the Hagee issue by allowing the right wing to frame the issues, asking McCain a right wing softball question, complete with right wing premise ("your allies are signalling that patriotism is going to be an issue in the fall"), then quotes Karl Rove for support, and lets McCain go off for minutes on Obama's guilt by association with Ayres?

And this is after Stephanopoulos has been castigated for days for his biased, inane, embarrassing attack questions in the Democratic debate? What would he have asked McCain if he hadn't been trashed so broadly for the past few days?

Wow, the liberal media is so liberal, we really need to do something about them, don't we?

ronnyg @ 70:

Massalla @ 41:

It always amusing to know what is important here at "Romper Room", aka C&L.

Reading the posts here justifies why he founders imposed a minimum age limit on the Presidency.

Keep up the good work. At least the absurdity provides a service of being unpretentiously humorous.

Yup, this is a free speech zone; you're free to post your ad hominem, off-point attacks, and be "exhibit A" for the lack-of-substance and lack of ability to debate the issues right.

McCain by his actions and obstructions over the years has proved himself many times to be unfit to be a Senator, let alone POTUS.
From the blocking of the 'MIA' inquires, forced evictions of native Americans from their Reservations for the profits of mining companies,
accepting monies from Abramoff's unwilling clients, the list goes on and on.
You can wrap a crook and liar in a flag, but they still remain a crook and a liar wrapped in a flag.

my teeth are clenched tightly "my frenjz" and I will deny my angry grampa antics.

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”
-Benito Mussolini

“Fascism is capitalism plus murder.”
-Upton Sinclair

‘Fascism will come to America wrapped in a flag and carrying the cross’
-Upton Sinclair, Socialist and a great American.

Has anyone seen his girlfriend/lobbyist? How does such an influential women stay off the radar so effectively? Maybe the MSM can explain her absence.

Regarding that poll - what a joke. You cannot expect people to take that seriously for one minute.

Also - I read McCain's laughter as dismissive, elitist and arrogant. I would expect no less from a rich Republican staying fat and happy on family money.

Why, heck - according to John we don't even need to tax people at all. The government will get by severing its' own appendages and roasting them on an open spit for supper. First the poor people, then the middle class and then ... Ah, who cares? We won't live long enough to have to worry about it!

John, you're looking so healthy. Must be that government subsidized health care you enjoy. You white collar welfare recipient, you.

Psst - I hope he dies. I hope he dies pooping.

McCain and Hagee 08, makes ones bowels turn to water and the once great America shudder, and the world grimace.

‘Fascism will come to America wrapped in a flag and carrying the cross’
-Upton Sinclair, Socialist and a great American.

The warning signs are up there on the wall people.

Even the F^%$ing stupid neocons and their overseas zionist friends should be very wary of Hagee and his ilk.
RW fundie Xtians are no friends of Jews, atheists, free thinkers, radicals, socialists, democrats or anybody not plugged into the scriptures.

Look at who they surrounded rattled wee George with, to day.

George was afraid to bring on any commentators, such as Donna Brazile, that might actually take issue with George patting himself on the back for what a wonderful job he did handling the debate.

ABC trotted out three Old White Elite Washington Power Nipple Suckers, to cocoon poor Wee George from what he calls,”it comes with the territory. Really, Chicken Shit George; Then why did you surround yourself today with only your long term fellow travelers?

One of the most amazing feats of logical Jiu-Jitsu was voiced by Sam Donaldson:
Right after the panel was told that the polls show that a far greater percentage of Hillary supporters say they will not supporter Senator Obama if he is the nominee, than Obama supporters saying they will not support Hillary;

Donaldson said that he was amazed at the sense of entitlement among the Obama supporters, and how they say they will not support Hillary if she is the nominee.
He then told the Obama supporters: “grow up”.

Why is that illogical old clown allowed to pollute the airwaves.

More Hillary supporters say they will abandon the party in the fall, than Obama supporters say they will, and Donaldson tells the Obama supporters to “grow up”

This morning you saw Wee Quivering Georgy, cowering inside the Old White Establishment Cocoon of Will, Donaldson, and Texas Compound Hairdo Roberts, because Mr. “ask the tough questions” Stephanopoulos was too afraid to face the music.

Boycott ABC. For years their radio network has carried all the right wing ranters such as The Big Fat Pillbilly and Raw Insanity, with no Progressive voices on their airways. All their local programs are also staffed with Neo-Fascist bufoons.

Boycott ABC and all those who advertise with them.

Joe @ 73:

my teeth are clenched tightly "my frenjz" and I will deny my angry grampa antics.

The only reason McCain's teeth are clenched tightly is because he's afraid the Poligrip will stop working and his teeth will fall out on national television.

So this is the one "tough" question Stenphanopolis had to ask McCain? Seems to me Glenn Greenwald had quite an extensive list of ones McCain couldn't have so easily shuffled off. George could have also followed up this question with how McCain can tell voters he represents change when he's embraced Bush's policies. The claim makes no sense.

I don't know about you guys, but its the ones that were brutally tortured for five years in Vietnam that aren't just a bit angry who worry me.

mojopo @ 75:

Maybe if somebody left the NYT or the WaPo in McCain's outhouse, he might do an 'elvis'

I hope News Hounds expands their watch list to include Hannity note-takers ABC "News". Remember DiZney's going after "Spocko" about posting comments made by Melanie Morgan? ...or how 'bout DiZney/ABC's "Path to 9/11"...?

Scherzo @ 80:

I don't know about you guys, but its the ones that were brutally tortured for five years in Vietnam that aren't just a bit angry who worry me.

McCain had a horrible POW experience, enough to warp the mind of any human, he then got his establishment reward, assorted medals and a life seat in the Senate.
Eight years ago he might have made a good one term Republican POTUS, (or at least a fraction of the badness and evil of Chimpy) then retired somewhere warm and peaceful to write his memoirs.
Today he is a walking (ticking timebomb) disaster and would not survive one term or be fit to do so anyway.
Any Republican or frustrated weeping HRC supporter who votes for McCain in november, should have their heads examined them be committed for a holiday to recover from their madness.

Snowball @ 79:

So this is the one "tough" question Stenphanopolis had to ask McCain? Seems to me Glenn Greenwald had quite an extensive list of ones McCain couldn't have so easily shuffled off. George could have also followed up this question with how McCain can tell voters he represents change when he's embraced Bush's policies. The claim makes no sense.

Those questions would only have made him angry. What good would that do?

I missed it, but did John happened to mention how his party got us into debt? Did he happen to use the words "fiscal irresponsibility" and "mismanagement"? How about the word "lie". Did he bring up the lying at all? Was he at all sorry about the part he played in government, that helped to get us here? I'm just curious.

I bet he said we're still winning in Iraq, didn't he? In six more months, we will win even harder, right? Of course. Shoot, that situation is so delicate, it's best to leave it alone or it will collapse like a cheese souffle. If a cheese souffle could be a nation, I mean. It's best to just let it keep cooking, right John? Like my grandpa used to say, "Fuck you, you fucker." And how.

Watch the new series of buzz words:

League of Democracies...League of Democracies...League of Democracies...

That's right-wing code for U.N.= not invited.

Who are these League of Democracies that McCain and "Empty Suite George with a full head of Hair" infer? They won't say.

But they want the UN to be abolished because it is an FDR/Truman creation, and that is a very bad thing.

Maybe they are the same as Bush's Iraq "Coalition of the willing" (not including anyone with a French sounding name).

SOFTBALL

setup by the washington post. This has nothing to do with the crazy stupid and elitist things he has done and is.

McCain was scripted on this question before the Washington Post ran the story.

What with Iraq, Afghanistan and all the other messes we have to extract ourselves from.
Not to mention GW, economies and markets tanking and US adapting to green methods and the future
America needs a youngish thinking and adaptable POTUS say like Obama,
HRC is too lobbyist friendly, would be too much 'business as usual' and not enough change,
McCain is a puppet, we would continue down the same ol road then wander off it and sink beneath the swamp.

Someone should ask this dumbass what is so funny about your past bad behavior

Interrupt him when he starts his nervous laugh and ask..... why is this funny Mr McCain?

and watch him go off for questioning him.

Benny @ 11:

What about when McCain claimed Elizabeth Edwards took a cheap shot at him when discussing his "government" health care?

That segment really pissed me off. He kept saying the people want a choice. What they don't acknowledge is that the only choice for millions is healthcare or no healthcare. Cheap shot my ass. Without his government healthcare and his wifes money he wouldn't have survived cancer.

Liam @ 77:

This morning you saw Wee Quivering Georgy, cowering inside the Old White Establishment Cocoon of Will, Donaldson, and Texas Compound Hairdo Roberts, because Mr. “ask the tough questions” Stephanopoulos was too afraid to face the music.

Boycott ABC. For years their radio network has carried all the right wing ranters such as The Big Fat Pillbilly and Raw Insanity, with no Progressive voices on their airways. All their local programs are also staffed with Neo-Fascist bufoons.

Boycott ABC and all those who advertise with them.

Yup. I agree. This is the thousandth or so "last-straw". I/you/We should set up another blog and have a running list of corporate donors... ...of course it probably won't get enough attention. ABC viewers are in the millions. Maybe knock them down a rung? I don't know...

He looks like he is saying "Must resist anger, will unleash once cameras off! Must hold in to yell at passer by on the street!" in his head.

One thing I forgot to say about “rogue state rollback” is that this is the new terminology given to PNAC's advocacy of limited hegemony. So, McCain doesn't merely embrace the current manifestation of the neocon agenda, the war in Iraq. Instead, he embraces the entire neocon agenda, explicitly, which explains why Lieberman is slobbering over him.

Somehow, we need to make “rogue state rollback” as vogue as "elitism".

Did McCain just say the American people were ANGRY!?
So it's ok for McCain to call Americans angry but Obama is slammed for saying they are frustrated and bitter. Will the media be devoting a week of analysis over McCain's slur against patriotic Americans?

ferrofluid @ 74:

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”
-Benito Mussolini

“Fascism is capitalism plus murder.”
-Upton Sinclair

‘Fascism will come to America wrapped in a flag and carrying the cross’
-Upton Sinclair, Socialist and a great American.

required for reading for songbird ( mCnutty ) 1.) the Jungle Upton Sinclair , 2.) Crime and Punishment Dostoevsky 3.) Ferdydurk Gombrowicks ( spelling , its been 35 years since I read that book made the mistake of loaning it and Im still waiting for it to be returned ) 4.) The art of war Sun Tzu , that should keep his lips moving for a couple of years .

talker @ 23:

McCain looks like he is clinching his teeth as he answers this. -A sure sign that he is REALLY angry.

Are those his real teeth??? And does he still have "an onion tied to his belt as was the fashion in those days"??

I "really like" how the lil' Georgie closed the show and "Sunday funnies" with the last joke "at our expense". His/ABC's expense, eh? (Laughing) The only ones **paying** for their stupidity and NON-reporting is us. Mr. "I'm beating up your candidates so RepugZ won't have to" - "LiBeRal" Media was apologizing in some "funny" way?

Not ONE question about McCain and the 21st Century G.I. Bill that McCain is still "studying"?

Will his running mate be armed with elephant tranks?

Here's some choices for mccain's running mates:

http://www.blazesoftball.com/images/statler_waldorf_02_01.jpg

Anger issues isn't really as key as we might think.

Both Bill and Hillary have the reputations of explosive tempers.

People were afraid to advise them on occassion, although the Clintons might bang desks and yell, but never threaten.

But even that's better than someone so isolated they never hear contrarian views

And once calmed down try to incorporate the new information to aid in crafting policies.

I noticed that Boy-George and McBush were not wearing flag lapel pins. Why do they hate America so much?

Senator McCain: "Don't piss me off, Georgie Boy, or I'll bitch slap you like Hillary used to do. I'll make her beatings seem like a weekend of Sean Hannity whispering in your ear."

maybe, hopefully, some of these republicans fearful of a mccain presidency will publicly step forward and express their concern.

mccain is from the sound of it the worse kind of tempermental leader-not the kind that is occasionally annoyed and irritable. he's that teeth-gnashing, bone-crushing type."...i'll DESTROY you type."

Stephie just can't pull it off. I think you need testicles to be the man for the job. Eunuchs are just not up to it.

why is he trying to giggle like teenage girl. what a faker?

ac @ 106:

why is he trying to giggle like teenage girl. what a faker?

If he were a fakir he'd be trying to get nailed.

there was probably nothing mama mccain could do because he probably went to tell his dad his mom tried to discipline him.

The chucklehead still has major issues - sublimated by chuckling and by putting tremendous tension into his facial muscles. It's almost as if he is internally saying "gotta hang on and not fuck up by blowing my top...".

Smith is correct - mccain is a dangerous warmonger, and the country will pay dearly if they elect his sorry ass into a position of major power.

John McCain doesn't know SHIT about what it is like for Americans .... how long was he NOT under governement health care and under WHAT government was his health care not any good? (hint: if he was like my deceased ex husband ALSO a Vietnam Vet, it was REAGAN's government)

HYPOCRITE!

McSame "THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE ANGREE TOO"
oh i can not wait for the press and all the others that thought "bitter" was such a bad thing. WTF there johnie straight talk. you blast away at "Bitter" !?!?
oh silly me, i forgot that repubes do not understand hypocrisy when the are caught in it.
i am sure the silence of MFM will be deafening.

I know the difference between passion and psychotic episodes.

'Does he get angry? Yes'
"Does he get angry? Yes," said Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, a Connecticut independent who supports McCain's presidential bid. "But it's never been enough to blur his judgment. . . . If anything, his passion and occasional bursts of anger have made him more effective."

Former senator Bob Smith, a New Hampshire Republican, expresses worries about McCain: "His temper would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind, it should disqualify him."

Now, thats two entirely different perspectives.

When you hear Lieberman, I am immediately reminded of many of Hitler's fawning sycophants he was surrounded by, they were so Lieberman-like. Or Lieberman is so sycophantic and blind to reality, like they were. Either way, same thing

clytemnestra @ 110:

John McCain doesn't know SHIT!

HYPOCRITE!

*fixed it* :<[)

Some people have emailed me, asking me if i was going to boycott This Week this week because of the debate. Hell, no! We are about staring into the gaping maw of Sunday's asshattery, not avoiding it! Besides, Tiny Debate Failure is hosting John McCain today, so we'll get to judge whether he has the stomach to question him with as much rigorous irresponsibility about the goofy, problematic issues of his past. (And present.)

Tiny Debate Failure and his show, by the way, are in high-definition for the first time. So, tune in, and see the pock-marked discourse.

TDF asks McCain about his temper. McCain says that his temper is a manufacture issue based on the politics of the past and that the American people are bitter and angry. "Are you sure, Mr. McCain?" TDF asks. "McCain says he's just passionate, and those stories are either untrue or exaggerated." TDF, says, "Okay sir! I won't check on that! Sorry to bother you!"

Moondancer (comment #12) referred to what GOP Senator Thad Cochran said. Here's the quote & source:

Famed McCain temper is tamed

Calmer side now on display
By Michael Kranish
Boston Globe Staff / January 27, 2008

WASHINGTON - Senator Thad Cochran of Mississippi, who has known Senator John McCain for more than three decades, on Wednesday endorsed Mitt Romney for president.

Thad Cochran said in the past he has seen McCain's temper fly too often in committee hearings
or on the Senate floor.

Cochran said his choice was prompted partly by his fear of how McCain might behave in the Oval Office.

"The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine," Cochran said about McCain by phone. "He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."

Give McLame a break. He's grouchy because he has a rash. His aides need to start changing his diaper more often.

odanny @ 4:

This is a must read article by the Washington Post about John's 'explosive' past.

Maybe his new nickname should Mt. McCain? As in, when's the next eruption?

g1

"And so, look, 20, 25 years ago, 15 years ago, that’s fine, and those stories here are either totally untrue or grossly exaggerated."
I think I'm beginning to get it - Stephanopoulos and McCain are trying to out do Colbert and Jon Stewart. Since they have no future in politics, they're getting up a comedy gig - great idea!

Not surprisingly, Mr. McCain fails to understand the dangerous difference between constructive anger and capricious temper tantrums. (Considering the rapid progress of Mr. McCain's rampant Alzheimer's Disease, I'm surprised they still allow him to do talk shows at all.) I'm angry about the economy, but I go about my normal life peacefully. Mr. McCain may or may not be angry about the economy, but he has public outbursts of incoherent rage at his colleagues, the press, and his immediate circle.

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