H.R. 4102, The Stop Outsourcing Security Act
By John Amato Thursday Apr 24, 2008 3:00pmThis is something I can and will get behind.
"To phase out the use of private military contractors."
We should get behind this bill immediately.
This is something I can and will get behind.
"To phase out the use of private military contractors."
We should get behind this bill immediately.
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GOP say:
Profit before country.
No! If profiteers' stock prices go down, the tare-ists will have won!
Annie @ 2:
I can see it now...
"Of course we cannot support peace, we have an obligation to our shareholders"
Hiring mercenaries in a time of war is against the Geneva Convention and therefore a War Crime.
I predict that our Reps will vote to keep committing War Crimes.
I'm behind but it's 8 years too late.
They provide a valuable service, there is not enough military in Iraq so they do important jobs.
Who cares? There will always be a good supply of morally deliquint religious freaks to do America's killing in return for money.
As is commonly said by neo-cons and progressives alike "support the troops (a.k.a. hired killers)"
You mean that all the Army cooks in Iraq will have to stop playing their gameboys and get to work.
This is an outrage!
Even if the bill passes, Dimya will issue a signing statement that it doesn't apply to Republican administrations.
Blackwater is an abomination - from it's Aryan CEO right down to it's killers for hire.
This should be a constitutional amendment. And lock up Bush/Cheney when it's passed.
I'll not only get behind it but I'll help push it. Where's the handle and when do we start. Somehow Rumsfeld should be punished for beginning all this bs. Blackwater comes to mind. If you read the book "Blackwater" you'll learn that they were just about out of business before 9-11.
I like Pie @ 7:
Wow... words fail sometimes.
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 9:
It is already the law. The Geneva Convention forbids it.
Employing Blackwater is a war crime.
A day late and a dollar short. Actually, that should be 48 years too late and a trillon dollars short, but who's counting? Besides, why would a Republican today heed the parting words of a fellow Republican President? There's no profit in that...
The Dude @ 11:
Seriously.
Weaseldog @ 4:
Your only concern should be will your Rep vote for this bill. In the final analysis we vote for one Representative, two Senators, one President, and one vice President. You should concentrate one those people and not on MY Representative or Senators. If your not happy with your Representative or Senators get involved and do something about it. I have written my Representative and ask that she not only vote for but also co-sponsor the bill.
Who's sponsoring this bill?
I smell a rat - as in, "if this bill passes and we can't outsource privately anymore, we *must* reinstate the draft!"
Who's got the cheese?
UU. got rid of "SOSA" before, he'll just get rid of this too
My feeling is the Iraqis would appreciate our pulling out the blackwater cowboys who do whatever they please to whomever the please and answer to no one.
Bud @ 16:
We should reinstate the draft. And the first list from which we should pull is a list of registered Republicans and their spawn.
pissed off patricia @ 18:
You would think that it is their country or something like that by that way of thinking.
RayC @ 20:
I know RayC, sometimes I kind wander off the beaten path.
Imagine if blackwater was patrolling our streets and answering to no one.
The Nazi propagandists surrounding Hitler and the German War Machine had no idea how well tuned their scripts, rhetoric and propaganda could evolve 60 yrs later, with their playbook now in the hands of the US neo-conservative war movement.
'Private Military Contractor' = Mercenary
'Spin' = Lies
'Commander-in-Chief' = Military Dictator
etc, etc,...
I imagine all military people would support this. They probably hate blackwater as much or almost as much as the Iraqis do.
Forgot to mention, wouldn't it be swell if the GIs that make it home could do so with more than missing appendages, shell shock, and a bulls-eye painted on their backs. Things like job skills maintaining vehicles, computer equpiment, cooking, plumbing, construction, contracting, the list goes on and on. Axe the contractors, and not just Blackwater, et al. This is long overdue. Most of these companies were either on the edge of bankrupcy or newly formed to take the place of previous USGI workers. They are also mostly owned by ex-military, Pentagon and K-Street lobbyists. This has not been money well spent - and much of it should be returned from the profiteers who defrauded taxpayers of services poorly rendered or not at all.
Awesome.
RayC @ 15:
Pete Session wrote me back once and told me that the Constitutionality of bills is something for the lawyers to argue over.
He's already reported me to the FBI.
He works only for the defense industry. He doesn't care what I say.
Dr. Know @ 24:
This was Rumsfeld's idea of a leaner Army. What he failed to disclose was he was about to make many private contractors very fat.
Dr. Know, no problem about the remark about women from georgia, I just had to tease you a little bit about it.
pictorial representation of government contracting
http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/changeorder.jpg
tofubo @ 28:
I like that. :)
28 tofubo Says:
pictorial representation of government contracting
About the size of it - literally.
27 pissed off patricia Says:
That should be "private contractors who support the PNAC/War Profiteering agenda".
I'm a private contractor and I didn't make a dime. But had I, you can bet these guys would have had clean food and water or heads would have rolled.
Figured as much, PoP. Besides, there are always exceptions to the rule -- perhaps you're one... ;-)
Do you still live in GA or elsewhere?
And damnit, Amato, take those adorable t-shirt girls off the main page.
I think I'm in love with one of them...
chris @ 6:
Yeah, who else is gonna terrorize innocent civilians???
Dr. Know @ 32:
I'm in Florida now. I left Georgia when I was a little kid. I'm a fast learner.
Aside from demonstrating just how poorly planned this whole debacle was, and a historically proven failure that should never have been considered.
The lack of accountability they enjoy was a baaad idea. It makes the troops (and the US) look bad (worse?), is endangering their lives, and probably pisses them off to no end when considering their paycheck at the end of a day. Not to mention the Iraqi view of the whole thing...
This bill was submitted in September of 2007, however. I don't think it is making progress, nor have I seen anyone mention it in session.
Man, even MACHIAVELLI in "The Prince" says never to hire mercenaries, it'll bankrupt you,they have no loyalty at all, and you'll never be able to STOP paying them.
35 pissed off patricia Says:
Now I'm really jealous. I've covered every inch of that state except the panhandle. Miss the ocean, birds, weather, and european tourists - but not the mobsters, Jeb, or Katherine Harris. But I repeat myself.
Many of my favorite blogs are Florida nature blogs.
Long overdue
37 p Says:
Man, even MACHIAVELLI in “The Prince” says never to hire mercenaries
"...if one holds his state on the basis of mercenary arms, he will never be firm or secure; because they are disunited, ambitious, without discipline, unfaithful; gallant among friends, vile among enemies; no fear of God, no faith with men; and one defers ruin insofar as one defers the attack; and in peace you are despoiled by them, in war by the enemy."
Hmmm....
The government's trying to get rid of a bureaucratic mess?! Sweet.
Why?
They should phase it out and make mercenaries against the law in the US. They should also impale bush, laura, dick, rummy, lynne, condi, al-ber-to, ashcroft, scalia, wolfowitz, bremer, rove, murdock and many, many others. Here's hoping!
Nothing endangers our freedoms as the presence of these hired guns. HOW FRIGGIN STUPID ARE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY!!!
Wouldn't the country be behide the execution of the Murder of JFK, Bobby, MLK,Paul Wellstone, Pat Tillman. Well they are within are grasp.WHY DO YOU THINK EVERYTHING INVOLVED IN EVERY HIGH PROFILE CASE IS SEALED FOR NATIONAL SECURITY REASONS. wHEN THIS IS ALL OVER I suggest we never let another lawyer represent us in Congress EVER.
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