<i>The New York Times</i> Cleans Up Kristol's Mess...Kinda
By SilentPatriot Wednesday May 21, 2008 8:45am
As my esteemed colleague Logan noted the other day, Bill Kristol embarrassed himself (again) last week when he claimed on the pages of The New York Times that he couldn't find a single instance where an eventual Presidential nominee lost by a primary by a 41%+ margin. The Old Gray Lady finally caught up with blogosphere and has issued a "correction" to Kristol's column.
Correction: May 21, 2008
In his column on Monday, Bill Kristol said he could not find a recent primary in which the candidate who would go on to win the nomination lost by as big a margin as
Barack Obama lost by (41 points) inWest Virginia .
Mitt Romney won the essentially uncontestedUtah primary on Feb. 5 with about 90 percent of the vote.
Also, the California Supreme Court is based in
San Francisco , not the state capital,Sacramento .
Jeremy Jerry Skurnik of RoomEight, the blogger who first caught Kristol's error, isn't satisfied with the dismissive apology. Read why here.
John Cole says it best:
I am noticing a trend here. Kristol claims government is inefficient, ineffective, and bad, gets a bunch of his buddies elected, and proves it. He also rails against the MSM, claims they can’t get their facts straight, gets a job at the NY Times, and proves it.
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How many strikes does he get before he's out?
Kristols "mess" extends much further than what he lies about in the New York Times. This psychopath is drowning in the Iraqi people's and American soldiers blood along with the rest of the psychopaths that lied this nation into an unnecessary and illegal invasion. But they do not care....they're psychopaths gone wild
Nit picking.
Bill Kristol is a flying dildo.
-GSD
it's like they are trying to throw the game...something is up people...rove has some shit cooking we can't even figure out.
The only way to make these warmongers understand what they've done is to slap a uniform on their families and ship 'em out to Falluja and drop them into the middle of a raging battle.
Assumption: Bill Kristol is always wrong.
the correction should have read as follows: "In his column on Monday, Bill Kristol bald-faced lied to NYT readers. Again! With malice and malicious intent to spread anti-American propaganda in an attempt to interfere with the electoral process (which should be an act of treason punishable by death) by shamelessly touting he could not find a recent primary in which the candidate who would go on to win the nomination lost by as big a margin as Barack Obama lost by (41 points) in West Virginia. Mitt Romney won the essentially uncontested Utah primary on Feb. 5 with about 90 percent of the vote.
In light of this Neo-Con, War-Mongering, Fascist, Homicidal Hack's repeated attempts to use the once respected NYT as a propaganda outlet for a treasonous, anti-American, anti-democratic, right-wing agenda to mislead our readers and manipulate the outcome of the democratic process we are terminating our contract with Mr. Kristol immediately and distancing ourselves even further from the FOXNEWS doctrine of generating false information indefinitely. We apologize to our readers and will hire a team of REAL investigative reporters to fact-check every right-wing talking point and fallacy published or spoken anywhere, ever until the end of time to assure the United States of America remains a free and democratic society.
Our most sincere and huimble apologies for such a disgraceful error as to put such an indignant, manipulative, evil propagandist on the pages of our historic publication."
"p.s. The asshole that hired this piece of shit has been sent on special assignment to Basra through the year 2150."
marko @ 5:
Okay, now you are scaring me. First Hillary mentions Rove's name in one of her stump speeches. Then I hear Rove say that Obama is "arrogant".
Anyone who isn't nervous isn't paying close attention.
I like Juan Cole's comment. You know, if Kristol and those like him really wanted to help the world they would offer to command any number of terrorist organizations around the globe. If they were to do that those organizations would crumble in a matter of hours due to Kristol's massive incompetence and stupidity. It would be the first time Kristol actually accomplished something for the better by getting everything wrong.
Bill Kristol is simply doing his part to help the economy.
The New York Times must keep several additional people employed now simply writing Kristol corrections.
When with the NYT and the other tools of the MSM realize that Kristol is a hack with no credibility, and stop giving him a forum for his misinformation/propaganda?
pissed off patricia @ 9:
Nervous...how about terrified, ashamed of my country. Who in their right mind would want the job of President of the U.S. at this point. The crimes committed by this administration are staggering.
Least of all the over a million Iraqi peoples deaths that our country is responsible for and remember those 4 million Iraqi refugees. Those radicals who sold this war to the American public knew just what they were doing. They understood the environment in Iraq. They knew Sunnis and Shiites would murder each other. They knew there would be chaos when not enough troops were not sent in, and our troops protected the oil industry but not Iraq's historical treasures. Bremer knew when he disbanded the Iraqi army what he was doing. These were not mistakes...this is "Mission Accomplished"
How far along is the U.S. embassy? Mission Accompllished
princess @ 3:
LOL. Only a reich-winger could possibly "think" that facts and reality are "nit picking". Priceless.
Mmcd @ 7:
Fact: Bill Kristol is always wrong.
pissed off patricia @ 9:
I disagree. Rove is a thug. Plain and simple. He's a highly accomplished thug, who in the past had lots of power.
If he was the evil genius that some people make him out to be, then we wouldn't have gained control of Congress or be holding a significant majority in the House.
In fact, if you look back at the last 4 years or so, Rove's track record is pretty bad. He once earned his reputation as a skilled character assassin and heartless political thug; but now he survives on reputation alone. The decline of his influence might be more obvious if Congress, especially some of the Dems, would stop cowering and stand up for their alleged principles.
Darth Cheney has always been the one to keep an eye on. I want to know what Addington says if he is forced to testify before Congress.
NeOcOnS
http://tinyurl.com/2natgf
How krystol(nacht) got his face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hbnU4jF9fw&feature=related
marko @ 5:
it’s like they are trying to throw the game…something is up people…rove has some shit cooking we can’t even figure out."
Really, we still believe Rove is a genius? Really? His candidate barely/didn't beat a pre-oscar stiff card board cutout in 2000, and barely beat another cardboard cut out in 2004 after saying Shrub would get 300+ delegates. And then of course there was 2006. How'd that work out for the brain.
I think we all owe Rovie a ton of gratitude for destroying the Republican Party, and we should try to keep him in the game because he is sooooo bad at it, but come on, I hope Rove cooks up some more of his "real" math in November. What a dumb ass. I would call him Bush's ass, but I think calling him Bush's brain is even more insulting!
So, yes, stay on your toes, use that nervous energy until the last minute, but let's not perpetuate the myth that Rove is even relevant. He is an unethical weasel, but that is different than being smart.
Thanks,
Alec
dennis @ 3:
This is neither the time nor place to discuss your culinary habits.
Kristol, an American traitor.
dennis @ 3:
I don't think so. Kristol has been wrong so many times that I am tempted to say that I bet he even drives to the New York Times backwards each day.
I.O.K.I.Y.A.R!
Let's have a Bill Kristol career death pool! How long before NYT cans his lying, bloody ass?
“Very few wars in American history were prepared better or more thoroughly than this one by this president.”
~William "The Bloody" Kristol
Intelligent thinking people have figured out this clown and "that News network".
Americans are abandoning.. Fox News viewership down.
People are just monitoring and keeping track of the illegal propaganda for the upcoming lawsuits.
Its just an entertainment channel...
Fox's American Idol has more viewers... than the Fox News propaganda pundits.
Speaking of other clowns...
Whats up with Cheneys 10 gallon hat...
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Sporting_10gallon_hat_Cheney_tells_Coast_0...
It is very apparent that this freakin' guy will continue his BS until he is brought to task via the TV media people. We can bitch and carry on till the cows come home but until he's brought out for his errors and half truths he will continue this crap. I find this person very hard to watch when he's on TV due to his voice and his answers. What a freakin' puke!!!
Sorry my email is down so i can not send you the story but please can we talk about Clintons comments yesterday?
Hillary Clinton compared the plight of Zimbabweans in their recent fraudulent election to the uncounted votes of Michigan and Florida voters saying it is wrong when "people go through the motions of an election only to have them discarded and disregarded."
"We're seeing that right now in Zimbabwe," Clinton explained. "Tragically, an election was held, the president lost, they refused to abide by the will of the people," Clinton said
It is disgraceful comment undermining the amount of human suffering of a country under a dictator like Robert Mugabe. Here in America we have rights which we are able to fight for, Zimbabwean have no rights under the government.
This is a man who has been in power for 20 years
He can torture and kill to get what he wants, in the 1980s there was Matabeleland genocide.
And he still was knighted by the Queen of England in 1994!
I can not believe she is getting away this!
LOL! I love it. Even the correction needs a correction. I'm not at all surprised that the nyt is just another low cost toilet paper alternative but I am surprised that they were so willing to jump into that mass grave with the rest of their reich wing buddies so fast.
The guy couldn't get hired at a tabloid but he's spewing this garbage in the nyt? I'd say they're really trying hard to prove that ink is dead.
27 cobsjo
Who, the queen?
Chris @ 23:
That's what you get when you forget the KY Jelly.
Joe O. @ 22:
We've had what, 57 state primaries so far? And the majority of them were focused on the Democratic side. So it would be easy to overlook an uncontested Utah Republican primary. The pointless point is, Who TF cares?
It would be much easier to point to the things that William "the bloody" Kristol has been right about. You would think that after a while when someone is mostly wrong about every F$%#ing thing people would stop listening or at least marginalize his rantings to the sad right wing comedy files.
dennis @ 31:
Apparently, you.
ysbaddaden @ 29:
In 1994 Mugabe was bestowed an honorary Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath by Queen Elizabeth II.
GSD @ 4:
... more like a used condom ~~ (:>
RayC @ 32:
As far as we know he's able to get his shoes on the correct feet. That's probably about it.
O/T: Oil just hit $135/barrel. But, all the reich-winger spent yesterday defending the oil companies and their record profits. How anti-American.
OT GAS IS 12 CENTS A GALLON IN VENEZUELA
princess @ 31:
Oops.....wrong.....again....princess:
Perhaps the Times is using the same research that Kristol did because, once again in less than 10 minutes, I was able to find out that McCain was endorsed in the Primary by Utah’s Republican Governor Jon Huntsman and that McCain campaigned in the state before the Primary, calling it a battleground.
In 1968, Hubert Humphrey won the nomination despite not participating in the primaries. However, in the national election he was seen as too far left (despite being more or less a continuance of LBJ), and George Wallace as too far right, so Richard Nixon (who lent his middle name to Bart's best friend) was seen as a moderate and won.
See how well that worked out for us?
I used to subscribe to the NY Times but alas Harold, my budgie, passed away last month and I have no further use for it.
dennis @ 3:
I believe that should be spelled "nyt picking"...
Damn librul NY Times!
ysbaddaden @ 33:
Kristol was actually toting a reich-wing talking point. Many of the hate radio reich-wingers were spouting the same fact-less rants days before Kristol's fact-less op-ed was published.
The fact-less quote is quite comical: I can’t find a single recent instance of a candidate who ultimately became his party’s nominee losing a primary by this kind of margin.
Apparently Kristol didn’t look hard enough. Writing at Room Eight, New York political consultant Jerry Skurnik says it took him “all of 2 minutes to find what Kristol couldn’t find.” On Feb. 5, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney beat presumptive GOP nominee Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) by 85 points in the Utah primary:
ysbaddaden @ 39:
The mantra of Wall Street is now, and always has been "RETURN ON INVESTMENT". They have invested a fortune in BO ... what do they expect in return?
Can O Whoopass @ 6:
True, indeed!
You wanna see courage... watch how they throw themselves in front of the plane on the
runway...
It would quickly become the Right-Wing version of throwing yourself on top of the grenade.
L.A. Confidential @ 44:
Bill O'Rielly?
He must love having the same initials as Body Odor.
cobsjo @ 27:
Funny, Senator Clinton didn't give a damn about my Florida vote until she found out she needed it.
Maybe I'm ahead of my time, but because of so much that Kristol has said in the past, I just ignore anything he says in the present.
Oh and just to be clear, I voted for Obama so Senator Clinton probably still doesn't give a damn about my Florida vote.
Mmcd @ 7:
That's a FACT.
ysbaddaden @ 46:
Body odor isn't too happy being associated with Bill O'really though.
This deliberately deceitful incompetent needs to be hit with anvils as he exits the NYT Building on his next visit. What a feckless idiot!
NYT's needs to rap krystol(nacht) on the nose with a rolled up newspaper
Preferably with a steel bar inserted.
Kristol was proven to be wrong, he admitted to being wrong, yet some reich-wingers are stupid and desperate enough to defend Billy. Wow.
Dr. (Bitter Hussein) Matt @ 43:
And.....
In fact, on the same day, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee beat McCain by the same margin Kristol touted as unprecedented — 41 points — in the Arkansas primary. As did Mitt Romney in the Colorado caucus.
Alec @ 19:
"I would call him Bush’s ass, but I think calling him Bush’s brain is even more insulting!"
WHAT'S TH DIFFERENCE?
ysbad@20 lol ,to much, your smoken today. -- Carefull NYT you might hurt his little ego with that burning rebuff. I still say my idea would work best, he lies,somebody smacks him upside his toe shaped head. Kristols dad was also a zionist turd of the same smell and color and just as hard to pass as ill is. Got exlax? CEO
bill DOH @ 55:
CEO,citizens,eyes,open @ 56:
you talk as if rove isn't doing well...look around...the congress elected in 2006 hasn't done a damn thing, were still in iraq, no real energy policy, and the primary cat fight is still on.
oil prices and defense spending is still rising, people are still dying, and they are aiming at iran...
On Tuesday night I wandered over to Faux, albiet briefly, to hear their spin on the election results. Did anyone see that? First of all there was the smug, superscillious, arrogant asshat Brit Hume, and his panel which included Kristol and Fred Barnes. The pretentiousness and forced laughter of it all was uncomfortable to watch...and I mean that seriously. Hume had this sort of muted nervous forced fake laughter thing going for most of the time, as if they were so smart and were having a grand old time, and could have just as much fun as the cool kids over at MSNBC. What a bunch of losers, truly.
"The New York Times Cleans Up Kristol’s Mess…Kinda"
You mean he's not paper trained yet?
Dr. (Bitter Hussein) Matt @ 14:
'Facts have a liberal bias.'
They really hate that, well, fact.
57 Martin
Kind of like the old PBS show Meeting Of the Minds with Steve Allen?
I am old enough to remember Steve Allen, but only vaguely remember that show (or may have blocked it out of my memory). Sounds painful!
He's good for the NYT. Let him make a fool of himself, repeatedly. Plus, every time some a-hole rants that the NYT is a liberal mouthpiece, I can point to Bloody Bill as evidence that they're not.
Just sayin'.
CEO,citizens,eyes,open @ 56:
Like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bna0B4CBCwY&feature=related
Dr. (Bitter Hussein) Matt @ 24:
"Oh Bill Kristol, is there anything you've ever been right about ?"
-Jon Stewart-
63 Chico Hussein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kDHD4Bs_EI
Exellent work, NYT. There were actually many examples cited of just how wrong Kristol was, but your correction referenced the "essentially uncontested" Utah contest. Way to own it.
...and then there's that croaky little voice of Kristol's that just makes my skin crawl....
Wooo, let's hear it for self-fulling prophecies. It is funny how Republicans are always talking about how they want smaller government, less government intrusion in the lives of citizens, tout their fiscal responsibility, and claim to support the troops. BUT they intervene in the Terry Schiavo case, get involved in the largest illegal spying operation against their own constituents, enlarge the government, cut spending to regulatory committees, get caught in some egregious ethical, moral and financial scandals and sent the "supported" troops to battle without proper equipment and body armor and underfund the VA hospitals responsible for the troops' care when they return from the meat-grinder. THEN they turn around and say "Do you want the government to handle healthcare? Look at how bad we screw things up." I wouldn't trust a Republican Congressman to give me correct change from a dollar, or any change for that matter, nor would I expect a Democratic Congressman to call him on it.
Something needs to change here.
dennis @ 3:
Pffhahaha! C'mon, you can do better than that.
Yea... Waddayaknow, I've noticed that same trend.. Like about 28 fucking years ago starting with Reagan! Kristol may be the latest posterboy for this undermining our government efficiency shit.. But for my money, it all started while that tool still had a full head of hair.... The list of assholes responsible for this shit is long and may end with Kristol, Chimpy, Dick Cheney and the gang. But it began with ol Ronnie, and that's how history will record it ultimately. Fucking assholes, would rather see the nation fail then even for a minute entertain the idea that their worldview and ideology might be flawed fundamentally....which it is.. JD
Bonkers Hussein @ 66:
I also sorta thought he had thum thort of lisp or speech impediment (not that that there is anything wrong with that), but honestly I cannot bring myself to listen to him long enough to figure it out. I think it's really just his affected smugness shining through. All these jerks probably fantasizes themselves as Thurston Howell III.
Bonkers Hussein @ 68:
Zit picking?
KristolMeth @ 61:
Great screen name!
yabad@62 wow man, the colors!
WHERE IS DIVERSITY IN AMERICAN MEDIA?
I am tired of seeing a small enclave (Upper West Siders) dominating the airwaves and pushing their agenda.
We need more voices such as Asians, Latinos and African Americans in media who together represent 25% of the country but currently have minor presence in media and even lesser influence. We have seen how even a small Asian presence in media such as Fareed Zakharia or Rajiv Chandrasekaran (Imperial Life in the Emerald City). These guys come from a proud tradition of Indian journalistic independence. Our journalistic tradition outside of Watergate is nil, sorry to say. We only have had echo chambers and stenographers. Only now with Global news on the web, has the blogosphere noticed it. I have been railing against US media's cowardice for almost 10 years now. But I immigrated to the US from India 20 yrs ago and had a very strong taste of independent journalism.
My question to you all is this:
Are we to assume that roughly about 2% of this great nation has all the great ideas that only they can propound their views on the remaining 98% of us? If the answer is yes, I think we should suffer through Kristol, Friedman, Broder, and any number of hacks. I would contend that they are at their perch only because of who they know and their last names. Otherwise, I have seen no serious jounrnalistic work out of them in the 10 years I have read them. It's not zero but not worth the moolah/headlines they generate.
If the answer is no, then I have a request for all of you. CRY OUT LOUD FOR DIVERSITY IN MEDIA.
I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist because I am not. I find the current crop of US media men/womer to be a tad overpopulated by just the same old people. My hope is that hiring more diverse people in US media will benefit us all as we have seen already in the examples cited above.
Instead of railing against US media (MSM), I would urge you all to rally around for more diversity in the US media. You will see that the result will be an immediate downturn in the domination of Middle East news in US media, an expose' of more corruption in the Bush admin (the first one and second one are related) and we will all focus more on Asia, Africa and Latin America where America's future as a business nation lies. The Middle East is where the top 2% has invested all its energy in all these years. They are dragging the remaining 98% of us to discuss it ad nauseum whether we like it or not.
Let's call for more diversity in US media. Let's focus our news and discourse on the future (Asia) than on the rotten past (ME).
I would like more feedback on this one. I don't know whether I am the only one thinking like this. I don't see any way of getting rid of the Kristols of the world other than bringing in more diverse voices to challenge them. I don't expect a Friedman to challenge him because he has the same world view, just a slightly different tack.
Bonkers Hussein @ 69:
Better? Maybe you're right, two words was probably too much for this story.
Should've said 'petty'.
dennis @ 76:
[shrug]
Martin @ 71:
Ooh laws yes, it's the smugness. I wouldn't make fun of a person's speech impediment. No, it's definitely that comfortable-in-his-own-stew-of-lies, robotic, croaky droning of his that I can't stand.
obama is a spineless incompetent who doesn't care about the people of Michigan or Florida's votes. He will NOT prevail. NOBO in '08!
dennis @ 76:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHJMp5bz9u8
Petty like the commenters on Dan Rather's story?