David Gregory Worries About Obama's Glow
By Nicole Belle Thursday Jul 10, 2008 8:45am
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So John McCain had a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week this week. I mean, it was really bad, from having to distance himself from his buddy and economic advisor Phil Gramm, to fumbling badly on questions regarding women's health, disabled rights, veteran's health benefits, Social Security, to lame jokes on killing Iranians. All in one week. That would be enough to sink other candidacies, but we're talking Iron John McCain and his water-carrying media legions.
Those legions clearly include David Gregory. In fact, McCain's almost constant missteps and fumbles need not be mentioned by Karl Rove's dancing partner. A far more fascinating conversation could be made by asking his exclusively conservative panel of Michelle Bernard, Michael Smerconish, Tony Blankley and Harold Ford, Jr. (c'mon, be honest, Harold Ford is as conservative as any other person up there) if Obama has "lost his glow."
Um, excuse me? What weird criteria for concern trolling is this? Granted, the liberal blogosphere is less than happy with some of Obama's choices of late, however, Gregory devoted a full 15 minutes to the question of the "glow" of Obama, even though halfway in the middle, he shows that Obama's polling better than ever. Clearly, David, that would indicate that Obama's "glow" appears to be not only undimmed, but growing. Perhaps the smarter--or at least more reality-based-- question would be to ask how many more stumbles John McCain must make before we can stop trying to treat him as anything more than a joke.
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David Gregory is without doubt the dimmest bulb in MSNBC lineup. He is a rock hard stupid Rovian.
What do you really expect from Rove's dancing partner?
McCain can do no wrong. Not because they do not see his many (many, many) faults, but because they need a competition between him and Obama. So, they need to ignore the fact that McCain is a pathetic piece of shit and highlight the fact that Obama has constipation, so he will not make a good president. Hopefully, the viewing public are curious enough to know what each of these candidates are saying and doing and ignoring Gregory, who sees nothing wrong with dancing on stage with the politicians he is supposed to cover.
Media coverage
"The competition for media exposure between Barack Obama and John McCain was much closer last week than in the past several months of the presidential campaign. During much of the primary campaign and in the weeks since the general election kicked-off in early June, Barack Obama has consistently received more media attention than his Republican rival, John McCain. By contrast last week, according to the Project for Excellence in Journalism's Campaign Coverage Index, Obama was featured prominently in 73% of all campaign news stories while McCain was featured in 62% of all stories.
Despite greater parity in the coverage devoted to each candidate, Obama remained by far the most visible candidate in the eyes of the public. Seven-in-ten Americans (71%) named Obama as the candidate they've been hearing the most about in the news in the past week or so. Roughly one-in-ten (11%) named John McCain as the most visible candidate in the news during this period; a number largely unchanged since early June."
These numbers are important. Obviously, the fact that about 70 percent of Americans are hearing more about Obama while just 11 percent are hearing more about McCain
http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/435.pdf
John McCain's senior moments...
or Barack Obama's junior moments?
Experience matters.
Do the right thing.
pfft ... dancin' dave gregory, karl rove's dancin' dolly. fuck him. he's such a cum-sucking toady to bush. he's always defending bush in response to some criticism voiced by the occasional liberal/progressive guest. otherwise, his regular line-up includes the pig tony 'george soros somehow managed to avoid the holocaust' blankley; and the lying, discredited asshole, stephen hayes, whose books have been roundly dismissed as propaganda. hell, he's still pimping the saddam/911 connection.
Cancel this idiot and give Rachel Maddow a show.
Isnt 'glow' also a euphmism for a 'tan' ... ?
Also, was this included in the weeks low-points?
"McCain misfires on Obama attack
Posted: 08:38 AM ET
From CNN's Evan Glass, CNN's Kerith McFadden
McCain criticized Obama for missing a Senate vote he also missed.
(CNN) — It turns out that John McCain made an off-the-mark error when he launched at Barack Obama this week over Iran’s missile tests.
In a statement criticizing Obama’s positions on the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, the organization claiming credit for the missile launches, McCain wrote, “This is the same organization that I voted to condemn as a terrorist organization when an amendment was on the floor of the United States Senate. Senator Obama refused to vote.”
The problem with the critique? McCain also missed that vote on the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on September 26, 2007. Records show that Obama was in New Hampshire and McCain was in New York instead of being in the Senate chamber for the vote in question."
Here's a song we can play for Barack, dedicated to David Gregory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8myK93FqbYc
dennis @ 5:
Are you seriously suggesting that we should listen to a right-wing troll?
Good on ya, C&L, for opening this line of commentary. I was watching this program yesterday... and I thought I was going to burst a vein or throw something at my TV!
David Gregory completely ignored any and all "intelligence" that trickled from his panel of INQUISITION, and maintained a non-stop drum beat of ANTI-OBAMA SPIN!
What ever happened to the White House corruspondant who, at least, asked a pertenant question once in a while. THAT David Gregory is l-o-n-g g-o-n-e now that he has his own program.
The obfuscating-media (OM) needs to keep their storyline about there being a real race alive for a while longer before they shift over to the poor-pathetic-McCain line. Perhaps some of them even hope to make it into a race, but those will be sdaly mistaken; on the other hand, if they can keep the bogus race alive, maybe they will succeed in getting Obama to steadily creep rightward.
ek @ 10:
That's two trolls, Dennis. You and that right wing butt plug Gregory.
This is why I say (humble opinion, take it as you will) that people should really be more reserved and withold judgement on Obama.
Our criticism will hurt his campaign much more than we think. Not to say we shouldn't bitch at HIM about it... put it up on his website, send him an email... but people came out of the woodwork to say I'm not voting for Obama this election after he stuck his nose into the right side of liberty's vision, y'know?
And now the FOX harpies are gonna have a HUGE field day... no, week... talking trash to the 30%ers about how 'no one likes him anymore' and 'his glow is gone', which is a much more sly way of saying what so many people did these past few days (a la, "He f**ked us!).
David Gregory Korporate, Repuglican Tool and another reason not to watch any Korporate Media News show.
Just change the name of his show to "softball"
Glow??? As in Soul Glow ?
I guess Rove is rubbing off on Gregory at those late night barbecues with McFraud
oh, and commenter number twelve... love the name! ;P
I believe, he would SMITE THEM, VERILY AND FORSOOTH, let me help him find his lightning bolt.
Meanwhile:
BELLEVILLE, Mich. — Senator John McCain has spent the week trying to tell people that he feels their economic pain. So it was more than a little unhelpful when one of his top economic advisers was quoted Thursday as saying that the United States was only in a “mental recession” and that it had become a “nation of whiners.”
That advisors was Phil Gramm.
ek @ 10:
Disregard at your own peril, ek.
To listen to the MSM you'd think Obama is in a tight spiral headed for an abrupt ending in a farm field, and genius hero McCain is about to vanquish the uppity darky any minute now. Obama's rival for the presidency is not McCain it's the press. In the last few days McCain has had career ending gaffs-Multiple- and yet they seem to just evaporate. I'm sure if Obama or his surrogate made comments about Social Security being a disaster, womens reproductive rights, whiny citizens getting crushed by the depression, stupid citizens for thinking there is a depression, caught in multiple lies about his voting record, and flip flops on issues the same day there might be more attention given the subject than the wife-abuser is getting.
Isn't Glo a perfume from Jennifer Lopez?
surprisingly, gregory did not call it obama's afro sheen.
the guy is CIA, btw.
I was afraid when Tim Russert passed away that the only branch of NBC news which was honest, non-partisan, and equal to all would be history. I'm shocked at how face David Greggory and ANDREA MITCHELL have turned up their biased republican support for their party and how they are no different than FOX and its bull horns of decietful, dishonest, twisted facts reporting to advance a republican party which wants a ONE PARTY nation. I am terrifed at how many journalist are so republican biased. WE NEED TO BOYCOT ALL THE ADVERTISERED WHO SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF BIASED REPORTING FOR THE REPUBLICANS. Come on Civil Liberties, NAACP and MoveOn.org
OH come on, there's four months left until the election and if MSM were to pick-up on every McCain gaff the game would be over by now.
There are, not countless but many, hours of media time to fill and if they didn't prop McCain up then there wouldn't be a story to sell.
So I don't know if they are just stringing the story along, which is what I suspect, or too stupid to know better. Which-ever is the reason the main stream media's appalling election coverage, they have really lost what-ever credibility that was left over from Uncle Walter.
"The Dance"
changed everything
and should be mentioned every time Gregory opines.
The asshole Gregory labeled Obama "the new voice of the African American community". What an ignorant lie. Obama is clearly a leader who wishes to appeal to all Americans. Is McOld a leader for all the angry, war loving, change/brown people hating, geriatric white men in America?
Fuck sakes isn't there anything else going on in the world. The idiotic level to which newscasters have gone to is sad. Magnifying the minutiae of what these candidates do is pathetic. Soon there will be story that Obama took a shit in a dirty public restroom and what it will mean to his campaign. No wonder your country has become a nation of fucking idiots.
One can only marvel at either the sheer stoopid gullibility of the media now spinning the most recent variations on Rovian kewl guy proppin up the country club wall crapola or their .... nah, let's just stay with sheer stoopid.
On Morning Joe today it was Obama's "too cool for school."
Are the Village media all drooling ideots lappin' up and spittin' out whatever the Rove team drips down on them?
The question answers itself.
Is McOld a leader for all the angry, war loving, change/brown people hating, geriatric white men in America?
Yup; which, unfortunately, is STILL the largest demographic in the country...
Gregory is as much a tool as Gannon.
He's just another person who started making decent money then decides he's a republican because they want to cut his taxes.
It's amazing how many people are like that.
Sure, McNasty has had an awful week. He's doing exactly what we expect a right-wing war-monger to do - sound like a fool.
But, let us not gloss over the fact that Obama has had a worse week than McCain. Obama supported the FISA bill. Obama has been courting evangelicals by saying he will EXPAND the faith-based initiative. Obama has managed to cast doubts on his intent on removing troops from Iraq. Obama has done whatever he can do, it seems, to suck up to the uncommitted lunatic fringe.
I've mentioned this before but I'll mention it again: Crooks and Liars needs to challenge and criticize Obama for what he's been doing. We KNOW Mc Cain sucks. But Obama is quickly losing his relevance to progressives like me. What a shame if he loses his bid for the Presidency by pursuing the same crap that his opponent pursues (with only slight variations).
dennis @ 19:
PERIL? Are you joking? WTF have we (and the world) gone through for the last 7-1/2 years? You really need to get a grip on reality, Dennis.
VietVet67 @ 7:
seconded!
Mamas still love Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKneKE9fXtw
Gregory's corporate masters at G.E. are going to be livid if Obama wins. Gregory's just doing his job as a reliable GOP whore.
Left&Left @ 26:
Ummm, yes, I believe he [McSenile] really is. Sad. but true. *sigh*
Are the American Public so dumb that even faced with all the gaffes from a doddering old man - they allow the MSM to ignore the fact that McCain is a wind up toy that is sent out
by his handlers. because he was was the best of the sorry bunch of contenders for the job, based on his POW record. The question is, who is going to actually be President if McCain is elected? Another Cheney?
Gumby69 @ 27:
Exactly, I want to know more!
What deordorant does barack use? What brand of toilet paper do the Obamas prefer (important when trying to decide if Barack is a hard ass)? Any news on Michelle's feminine products preferemces?
Inquiring minds want to know. Somebody tell me when Fox does a special on Barack's failure to keep the good people of America informed.
Just wait until the first debate between Walnuts and Obama.
The MSM can't hide that geriatric nightmare candidate for too long. The MSM will have to face the music sooner or later.
Gumby69 @ 27:
Hey! Simmer down and get it right, ya damn foreigner. We have been a nation of fucking idiots for a long time. Look at Dennis!
c. atrox @ 31:
Wouldn't it be a shame if you convinced more people to criticize the only viable alternative to a Maverick flash-back presidency? yeh, and if you had only seen the thread a couple days ago on the abortion stance, not to mention how they DID criticize him on the FISA bill, over and over.... and what happens? Mainstream media siezes on it and relates it to 'the afterglow is gone'. forget mcSENILE, I'm still going Obama. unless someone tells me there's a HUGE rally popping up out of the ether for a Kucinich write-in.
dennis @ 5:
How many McCain Points did you get for that one?
McGrampa link tries to link McGrampa to Colombian hostage release.
Obama’s running on his judgment, so it seems fair to point out that he hasn’t even left the country and he’s already causing a diplomatic row. Meanwhile, McCain goes to Colombia and a bunch of hostages are freed from a terrorist group in a daring raid. Read into that what you will.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sadly, reich-wingers like princess are wanking off to McGrampa's latest "heroic" effort.
mudshark @ 30:
Reminds me of the Log Cabin Republicans. They're rich, so they love to be kicked around and used to point out just how horrible gays are - as long as they're being rewarded for it.
A little Masochistic I would say.
xoites defends Constitution @ 42:
princess is going for the McGrampa mini-skirt.
David Gregory has never been a hard hitting, insightful reporter. He missed so many issues. Why do you think he was so successful at the White House? They loved him. He was pure softball. He would play right up to them.
This is part of the problem. This is part of the reason we are in Iraq and so many of the other national problems because we have 50 David Gregorys and only one Helen Thomas.
The "NetRoots" should be ashamed of themselves. Kos and his Klowns and their concerted efforts to destroy Obama's fundraising momentum b/c he doesn't agree with them on every single issue is an absolute embarassment. Eff those goofs, they deserve McCentury.
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 45:
princess is going for the McGrampa mini-skirt.
McOld in a mini skirt? My mind is ruined for today. .... sheesh
Dear god...what a bunch of fuckin morons.
☻..Bangkok Bob..☻ @ 48:
Now you have something in common with McGramps.
Nicole... you misspelled a word... it's not "legions" but rather "lesions". Common mistake anyone could have made it.
:)
xoites defends Constitution @ 42:
I'll bet all my McSame Bucks he's that way because of his own ignorance, and he isn't even getting McPAID. 'morning, Xoites. ;P
Grandma Jefferson @ 33:
Thirdededed!!!!!!
The best you can say about any of the networks is that they are flat out incompetent.
Biased is a better bet. Yesterday, John McCain was standing in front of the assembled press corps in Michigan saying "Phil Gramm doesn't speak for me." The same day Phil Gramm was in New York with McCain campaign staff meeting with the Wall Street Journal editorial board SPEAKING FOR JOHN MCCAIN ON HIS ECONOMIC PLAN!
Last I checked NBC and all the other networks are headquartered in New York, Their morning Washington Post carried an item telling them exactly where Phil was and who he was speaking for. Did any of them send a crew over and cover the fact that the presumptive Republican nominee was lying to them? Was it included on the nightly news coverage. NO!
They are either incompetent, don't care, or complicit. Either way they cannot be believed. This should get more ink on your blog than David Gregory's unwatched program's transgressions.
This segment is just a symptom of the 24 hour cable "news" cycle's need to find something, anything to talk about. Of course they are going to put the frontrunner under the microscope because to garner huge campaign add bucks the race has to stay close. If Obama were ahead chances are you'd see more on the McCain gaffes, maybe not because he is the liberal media darling. Another segment either on this show or on Hard Ball asked why Obama is not ahead by more? Do they really need to ask?
This morning on Washington Journal the question of the day was are we a country of whiners? Just watch cable news and especially talk radio and the answer is apparent. I've often referred to muck of talk radio as hate radio but have come to the realization that it is purely whiner radio thanks to Gramm. Limbaugh, Ingram, Beck, and especially Hannity get three hours a day five days a week to whine about how the vast majority of America just doesn't get conservatism. Of course there is a heavy dose of blame and hate ascribed to liberals.
Until Obama starts trailing you might as well get used to more whining and willful ignorance to McCain's shortcomings. The scary part is that by keeping things close it presents yet another opportunity for those who count the votes to again dictate the outcome.
Both Gregory and Abrahams were given new shows at the same convenient time. And not one show of Gregory's that I've seen has ever - and I do mean EVER - not attacked Obama specifically.
And Harold Ford is the biggest ass kissing politician - well I correct that - he's the second biggest ass kisser after Lieberman in a party turning out to be nothing but ass-kissers.
But Ford does have something to cackle about. After once publicly and vehemently proclaiming he was not part of the DLC, Ford appears to have gained a new member of his once discredited and discarded DLC: Barack Obama.
Schumer and Emanuel have outdone Tom Delay, by miles.
obama has said when the primarys first started that he wont promiss that american troops in iraq will all be withdrawn by the end of his first term, he said if israels threatened by iran even nukes are on the table to protect the isralies even though isral has its own nukes, obama says states ought to decide if a womans allowed to have an abortion, obama said i have no intention of going after anyone in the bush administration, for past wrong doings, hes for nafta as is, what is this guy anyway? a repig or a democrat? i cant see any difference , fisa ? hes allready hammerd us with that! he knew it would pass even without his vote , but he went along with the repukes and votes yes, you dont need to hold your nose because of the stink on this bum , you need a gas mask!
dennis @ 5:
There's no way in Heaven or Hell i'd cast a vote for John McCain. Obama 2008.
Fantastic comments from above....I'll bet you didn't know that they could pile B.S. high enough to cover "David" 'n Karl on my shoulders Gregory? He's gonna fit right in on Fux Nooze's teevee channel after he's "embare assed off" watched tv.
24 hour news cycle + entertainment = a lot of time to fill with self-important, pontificating windbags who have nothing to say other than to disseminate disinformation and offer narrow-minded, snide observations.
Nicky @ 53:
Perhaps in charge?
swampfox @ 56:
Just vote for McGrampa and you can happily bitch about him for the next 8 years.
xoites defends Constitution @ 42:
Now THERE is an original thought.
To these guys Obama never had a "glow." The only glow they recognize is in the budding masculinity of their congressional pages. For, they did not realize that "congressional" refered to the legislature.
Vermifax @ 57:
Same here.
dennis is an asshat. Pay no mind to her.
Wise_Fool @ 52:
Good morning wise one.
dennis @ 62:
Like a C&P of someone else's post.
Oops....princess failed again....
dennis @ 62:
More original than anything swirling around in that reptillian brain of yours.
You just parrot what your masters tell you.
I was just watching MSNBC (about 10:20 a.m. EST) and they showed a clip of Bush being heckled at Monticello on the 4th of July. One of the commentators (Willie Guist sp?) said you gotta wonder if after 7 years of constant heckling if the Bush speechwriters write in a pause for heckling. It was then that Lester Holt said…yeah, it’s kind of like with standup commedians. I about spit my coke out hearing Lester Holt compare the president to a standup comedian. lol
I can just imagine what the press would have done if Obama had made half the stupid mistakes and comments McCain has done in this past week. They would be just savaging him day and night.
Most of the mainstream press in this country is just a complete joke. Of course with the money they make and the access they have they think they are the cherry on top of a big sundae.
dennis @ 62:
...incredible...
So what is new? Corporate media is willing to say anything to obfuscate the fact that McCain is one of the world's worst campaigners. Am I supposed to be outraged that one of their paid mouthpieces has completely ignored McCain's incompetence on the campaign trail? It is all too predictable. Corporate Media wouldn't bat an eye if McCain....... (take your pick of anything, it really doesn't matter, does it).
Fortunately this site has no qualms about publicizing McCain's awful campaign gaffes and I would strongly support any movement that makes every effort to publicize those gaffes.
dennis @ 5:
Yes, please, do the right thing. Start by verifying something you post. All you linked to was someone else's unverified post. I could link to all kinds of crap from LGF or Townhall, wouldn't make it true. Not by a long shot.
I just want to know when the media is going to address the fact that McCain apparently can't draw a crowd of more than a couple of hundred supporters at a time, compared to the thousands coming out to see Obama.
And every McCain crowd looks ready to lose consciousness from boredom, if they aren't totally ignoring Grampa McCain and talking to each other while he rambles. Compared to Obama's crowds, the difference is huge.
Where's the stories on that?
Obama has lost his glow? Must be lost in the smog of $4 gas, which of course was caused by him...as was the war, gay marriage, domestic spying, declining petroleum industry profits (LOL!), stagnant economy, growing unemployment, athlete's foot, hair lice and the heartbreak of psoriasis.
dennis @ 5:
John McCain’s senior moments…
or Barack Obama’s junior moments?
Experience matters.
Do the right thing.
A link to "The End of the Internet" was actually quite funny considering it is the fascists for whom McCain is fronting are trying to do away with an open and free internet to tamp down discent. George Orwell's ghost must be channeling through Dennis.
roooth @ 72:
Typical McGramap town hall event: http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5990/mccain9fcb98bmw7.jpg
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 75:
Pep Rally?
StirFry @ 39:
Prepare for months of low-expectation stories so that McCain will appear to win if he can just remain standing.
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 75:
ROFLMAO. That photo is too good. Who paid those guys?
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 75:
OMIGAWD! ROTFLMAO!! :)
Well, I would have to say that John McCain has a glow, too. Maybe these guys could discuss how his positions, persona, and ideology are radioactive to the mainstream.
It.s the dye in Gregory hair he start using to cover his gray when he was a reporter, he was good then now he is a bum.
Peril, Dennis?? Really?
Tell me, are your thighs chaffed from peeing your pants out of sheer terror every day?
Come back when you grow a pair.
Prepare for months of low-expectation stories so that McCain will appear to win if he can just remain standing.
yeah, we'll be hearing weeks of blather about what a terrible debated he is.
And how he has a temper-problem, because of the "torture" he experienced. (obody will tell you that most of McCaint's injuries were sustained when he crashed into that lake outside hanoi and the Vietnamese rescued him.)
and, once again, The Distraction Express (TM) comes barreling down the track. chugga-chugga choo CHOO!!
with your conductor, rove's dance partner, the ever-smug, camera-addicted david gregory!
and your crew today on The Distraction Express:
taking your tickets will be Michelle Bernard a far right winger posing as a moderate. working the food cart will be Michael Smerconish, another right winger who feigns a moderate stance. the assistance conductor, harold ford jr, will be dazzling the crew and customers with his ability to take the corporate line and try to make it seem progressive. and finally, and surely the least, will be one of the witness to the great messiah of our day (rev sun myung moon), pimp-suit lovin' tony blankley, will be catering to any and all whims of the first class passengers. Need a back rub? Ask tony. Need someone to hold your monocle? Ask tony. Need someone to guard your seat from any lowly coach class thug? Ask Tony… he is here to ensure that the few are never bothered by the many.
please, sit back, enjoy your ride on The Distraction Express. with frequent stops at GOP talking point stations, and corporate sponsored messages. and, please, clear your mind, on The Distraction Express there is never a need to consider nor contemplate anything important, impactful, serious, or meaningful.
Choo! Choo!
tickets please~
Obama's electoral victory will be 2 to 1. Gregory is a troll.
My first thought (other than to describe the corporate media shills as lesions on McCain), was "Obama's no longer pregnant?"
So, the corporate media is down to using feminine terms to describe a presidential candidate? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's like David wanted to say: A black guy is beating the old white guy.
I swear, if I told one of my buddies that he was losing his glow or that he has a glow about him... he and the others would kick my ass.
swampfox @ 56:
Ummm, 1) troops do have to stay for at least a while in order to get them out without missiles up their asses... and many other distinctions from running away screaming 'sorry about your country, there, dudes!'
2) Although I'm not into nukes, it's certainly worthwhile to NOT TRY to sound like a pussy when dealing with other known bloodthirsty tyrants who run countries.
3) it doesn't matter to me if states should decide if abortion is legal, as long as the People are the ones making it happen. I don't like telling women what tey can or can't do with their bodies, and I don't like the Fed Government telling states that States rights don't exist either. Funny how you don't show disdain for either choice on abortion, you just argue that its bad that the states should decide....
4) Actually Obama said he WOULD look into whether or not someone broke the law first, and prosecute anyone he found. That's as close as any nominee will ever get to saying 'pig-f*ck our current president in prison'
5) FISA is the only argument that holds water, here. And, like you said, either way it was a bust. What is the best issue to slide to the right on to get more votes? one where his vote wouldn't change the outcome.
Obama doesn't not equal McCain, take your meds. (or stop taking them, whichever is going to fix the dillusion)
Here's the problem I see folks. Many of you are still bitching about Gregory. This blog whined about Obama's syntax and then Gregory's claim that Obama has lost his glow.
Meanwhile the press and this blog missed the most incredible lie I have seen in a campaign. While the candidate says Mr. Adviser doesn't speak for him, Mr. Adviser is speaking for him to the press and on the same topic.
Do you not see the forest for the trees or are you mulch on the carpet floor decaying too?
The reptiles are listless for McCrocodile, he's old and he's lost his edge. If he every had an edge.
Come one, 901 in a class of 899. Even the Bush Crocodile did one better than that.
Joseph Debartolo @ 23:
I think that you are right about boycotts. I think that ALL large corporations should be boycotted as much as possible. We have been trying to do this for the last five or six years - going to "mom and pop" merchants, restaurants etc. I am told that the economy would collapse if everybody did that. Like it's not going to anyway? Maybe it would be a good way of nonviolent revolution? On the other hand, maybe I don't know what the hell I'm talking about...okay: probably...
Nicky @ 88:
right on! oh, and for a second, I though you wrote 'munch'. juvenile to share, I know... but it was amusing for a minute. ^_^
yeh, that was a pretty big lie. but then again, it doesn't even phase me that much... just like our President, on our behalf, saying at the FUCKING G-8 summit, 'so long from the worst polluter in the world!'
He really just doesn't give a fuck now.. he knows the world hates him. HATES HIM, and he's not even casually, but outright giving the whole globe the finger. sick though he is, I admire his courage in that respect.
Ever since Gregory tripped the "Light fantastic" with his girl friend Karl Rove, I have found him to be a kiss-ass piece of shit!
David was demoted for his media support and lies for the Bush Administration. Once Karl Rove got David to be a member of the Bush team with some green backs to help him push the Bush propaganda it been down hill for David since then. NBC has had to replace David and Andrea Mitchell as the viewers spoke out. Even Chris Matthews lost out for the Meet the Press spot because of the thousands of emails the NBC Executives got not to put the Chris Bushie in the top job. I look forward to NBC changes in 2009 and we're seeing new faces everyday. David might have to be a Mr. Mom soon as he will get his pink slip.
David Gregory has been nothing but the ultimate concern troll. I've ceased to let Rachel Maddow subject me to an hour of that stupid show every day. It epitomizes all the reasons the teevee has "lost its glow" in my house.
That said, I'm starting to empathize with the Republic of Media for setting all of its sites on Obama. John McCain's really, really boring. Discussing his travails may just put their audience to sleep.
Gregory is an inept journalist who constantly appears to be kissing any Repub's ass that he can find. Pathetic.
slag @ 94:
That is the most convincing evidence I have heard thus far on why the media is focusing on Obama. Wow. and that skeeves out, really bad. lol
and kudos to you for dumping the TV in the afterglow. sounds trite, but the black box really does make one vapid, stupid, and every other bad thing for your id. /punny
David Gregory Worries About Obama’s Glow
A good astringent will take care of that.
swampfox @ 56:
Hey, Francis Marion - I am getting impatient and dismayed with BO too. But politics is a chess game. I'm more willing to take a chance on Obama than McCain because of what the Repiglicans have done to the middle class and the world for the last forty years.
ysbaddaden @ 97:
Maverick face tonic: astringe the fringe away!
This guy, Gregory, is one of the worst picks ever by MSNBC outside of Tucker Carlson whom I just want to punch in the face every time I see him. Two of the most obnoxious morons on TV it would be hard to find than these two. Why don't they give Rachel; Maddow her own show or do they think that would be going too liberal along with Olberman. But hey, they had no problem canning Phil Donahue when 9/11 was the buzz word.
woody, tokin librul @ 83:
They won't care. Just like the "family values" crowd is ignoring his dumping of his first wife for the rich, young blond.
I think he's a Jonah. What he did to the USS Forrestal happened before he was a POW. He was a dangerous hot-shot with a temper problem then, too.
McGramps & W, they both had dad's they couldn't live up to. And they've both been immoral, ethically challenged losers who never would have made it without the influence of their powerful dads.
It isn't that Capitolism per se is a failed system; it's nepotism that continues to bring down civilization.
Samson- @ 84:
Nothing to add - just thought this deserved a repost.
The biggest problem I had with the show yesterday is that even with the Conservative panel, I think all four of them for the most part was disagreeing with David on the politics on the issue. 99% of the public believes that Jesse attacking Obama is a great thing for Obama politically. Yet, David Gregory is somehow trying to claim that Jesse Jackson represents Obama's "core support" and represents a large segment of Obama's "Black support". Judging by how his own son responded, both of factually and sensibly incorrect at the least.
For the record C&L, Michelle labels herself a conservative but she has been pretty left of center during this entire election. Even when she is on the Mclaughin Group, they sit her on the left side of the set knowing she will agree more with Eleanor Clift than Tony Blankley. Also, Smerc has all but said he's an Obamacon for the simple reason that Obama wants to kill Bin Laden in Pakistan. Seriously, Smerc even admitted he has posted Obama's father's day speech on his website. Ford is HORRIBLE on MSNBC, but he's supporting Obama even if his support is counterproductive at times. So based on my count, three out of four of the panel were Obama supporters which is why they called Gregory on his crap.
Also for the record, at least on MSNBC, I have Morning Joe, Andrea Mitchell, and David Gregory as definitely being apart of the McCain campaign. Kelly O'Donnell is McCain's MSM campaign chair. Someone forgot to tell her that when you're covering a campaign, that means report the facts, and not literally read off the campaign talking points on all issues (good or bad) like you're a member of the White House press corps covering the Bush administration between 2001 - 2005.
Wise_Fool @ 87:
it takes four yrs to pull out from iraq? get real! and its ok to be the bully with nukes or your a pussey? guess you approve of any dictator useing them, sounds like you loves you some bush! fisa sellout ok !check! sounds like some one missed thier meds this morning and it aint me!
Wise_Fool @ 96:
The challenge is in not letting the interwebs take its soul-sucking place. Luckily, surfing the net is more active than watching the teevee...here, we get to actively select what we see and hear rather than just passively accept it. And we get to make fun of it in the process, which is extremely important.
All of us here, have known for nearly 8 years, that the MSM totally dropped the ball! Pretty much all of the Bush/Cheney debacle has now been exposed, and yet so much of the MSM still refuses to report the "news"! If nothing else, we are now compiling a list of which reporters are interested in honestly and ethics! David Gregory is one of the news media who is a push over for the threats of losing his access to the crooked politicians! It's just as clear as water these days!
2) Although I’m not into nukes, it’s certainly worthwhile to NOT TRY to sound like a pussy when dealing with other known bloodthirsty tyrants who run countries.
Then you should be pretty upset by Bush's flip-flopping on his "appeasement is bad, talking = appeasement" rhetoric, and then immediate abandoning of that to talk to Korea & Iran. Not to mention using Iran for one of the Repug's biggest cash cow's: the tobacco companies. And, remember, McGramps voted with Bush 98% of the time - not that he remembers doing it.
Don't you even notice the lying and hypocrisy?
3) it doesn’t matter to me if states should decide if abortion is legal, as long as the People are the ones making it happen. I don’t like telling women what tey can or can’t do with their bodies, and I don’t like the Fed Government telling states that States rights don’t exist either. Funny how you don’t show disdain for either choice on abortion, you just argue that its bad that the states should decide….
It matters to me - the right to self-determination includes my body, and that's a Constitutional issue, not a state's rights issue.
You can bet if the Supreme's ever overturn Roe v. Wade, the Right will drop the state's rights arguement before you could say, "Bleed out, bitch, it's God's Will!"
Mickxotic @ 98:
Wow, talking about distorting his position.
First, no one, I mean NO ONE, who is objective about the Iraq War believes that 100% of the US presence will be removed from Iraq at least within the next 10 to 20 years just to remove the supplies and equipment alone. We still have a troop presence in Bosnia for god sakes. He has clearly said, unlike McCain, that his goal is to end the Iraq War and he will start with troop withdrawals. McCain's policy is a indefinite commitment to achieve victory....which has never been clearly defined. Obama is promising a little of something, McCain is promising all of nothing.
Second, you're stating Hillary's position as being Obama's. Obama has said he will protect Israel against Iran. But he has a strong diplomacy first policy with dealing with Iran.
Third, he said he is for states rights to determine late-term abortions. He is pro choice everywhere else, including on Roe v Wade, except on late term abortions.
Fourth, he said he wouldn't stand in the way of allowing other people to go after the Bush administration. He won't give them the same immunity that he gave the telecoms. It's not his job to go after the Bush administration. That's the job of Congress and the national and international legal system.
Fifth, he's a free trader because we live in a free trade world whether we like it or not. He will not destroy NAFTA, but he has repeatedly said he will renegotiate it to better serve American workers.
He's a Democrat who intends to govern the United States and everyone in it, just like those who register with the Democratic party.
Ya know, the state of the MSM regarding McCain is absolutely surreal. I keep expecting Rod Serling to show up, cigarette in hand, at any minute. I mean, it's obvious that the signpost is no longer "just ahead"; we're already deep within the twilight zone.
And the McGrampa idiocy continues: McCain slams Obama for missing a vote he also missed.
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 61:
heh heh the smart obama backers have allready seen the writeing on the wall, the only change the american people will see from obama will be tradeing one dictator for another, youll never see obummer hand back your rights bush took from you , dictators hold onto them untill the people decide its time for riseing up anf foresably getting rid of the trash who try to own them, of course thier will allways be quizzlings who support the tyrants, as for mccain hes going to be thrown under the bus at the repig convention , and even if hes not the republicans can allways depend on old change himself!
swampfox @ 104:
No, it will actually take longer than four years to get out of Iraq. Every military person who was involved in the first Iraq War said that to remove the supplies and equipment alone, it will take at least half the amount of time it has taken us to send it all over there in the first place. Meanwhile, we do need troops guarding and managing those supplies. Also, common sense tells you that you can't remove 150,000 troops from a combat/peace keeping mission overnight. We still have troops in Bosnia of all places.
Everybody who wants the war to end tomorrow and for ALL of the troops to come home tomorrow need to get that idea out of their head. If Obama can half the troops by the end of his first-term then he will exceed all expectations from experts and responsible people looking at this situation. However long we are in Iraq, divide that number by 2, and that's how long at a minimum it will take to completely get out.
With Mr. Obama's FISA stance and vote that essentially allows both the Bush administration public sector and criminally complicit private sector cronies get away with crimes, his glow is lost in my eyes. This is the first shot at holding the Bush administration accountable for their crimes and unconstitutional actions and it only makes me believe Mr. Obama will NEVER press to hold them accountable in the future.
For the first time since Reagan, I will not be voting for president. Instead, I will abstain from voting for that elected office (I will vote for other races).
I thought Mr. Obama was different, that he would shepard in a new political era. I was wrong and now am sorry that I seem to have wasted my primary vote.
swampfox @ 111:
You are having a hissy fit. You are throwing a tantrum. Slow down, take a breath...perhaps you should take down the Hillary placards off your front yard so you can get some sun.
I agree that McCain is a disaster and Rachel Maddow would be head and shoulders better than Gregory.
But I also know that I and many other Obama supporters and contributers feel much different about him now. He not only broke his express promise to filibuster the abhorrent FISA bill, he violated his oath of office. Many or us feel that he betrayed our trust without so much as a backward glance. (And that duly considers the nonsensical explanation posted to us on the Stop FISA community blog on his website).
I used to think Obama just might help usher in a new era of more accountable and principled leadership. One could have called that perception a "glow" I guess, but it's gone for me now. Sad as it is, that 's definitely pundit fodder. Heck, it ought to be real news, but the candidate himself doesn't seem to care much.
Last night Gregory even stood up for Bush, cutting him all kinds of slack for not having an answer when asked if there was anything he regretted during his "presidency". Saying "well it's tough to come up with an answer when you are put on the spot like that."
That made me sick and solidified, in my opinion, where Gregories loyalties lay.
He spent all that time being that close to the president, and he still can not see what a fool he (Bush) is.
Some reporter, huh!
Mister Anderson @ 112:
oh just bullshit!
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 114:
You are having a hissy fit. You are throwing a tantrum. Slow down, take a breath...perhaps you should take down the Hillary placards off your front yard so you can get some sun.
maby if you took the obama plackards off your windows youd see the light!
John McSame will continue to stumble, mumble and fumble, but his Neocon owners will carry him on a stretcher into the white house if they must. His media enablers will one day seem as irrelevant as they actually are. America - turn off your TV's for goodness sake.
swampfox @ 118:
maby if you took the obama plackards off your windows youd see the light!
And swampfox...if you pulled yer empty head outta yer ass, ya might get some much needed oxygen.
Rooth @101 WOW! That is the TRUTH and very well said. Thanks for the TROOTH, Ruth!
swampfox @ 117:
I have to agree with swampfox here...it ain't gonna take at LEAST 4 years...the Iraqi govt wants us out LONG before then, I say we leave when they want us to leave.
liberalNmoderation @ 120:
And swampfox...if you pulled yer empty head outta yer ass, ya might get some much needed oxygen.
oh come on is that all you got man you wouldnt even make a bump on the trolls i used to go at it with on here in the old days!
c. atrox @ 31:
I don't think that we've been soft on Obama. We've taken him to task on FISA, his expansion of Faith-based initiatives and even abortion. We are unabashedly supporting the Democratic nominee, that's true, and that's a position that we've taken since the beginning of the primaries. In fact, the site (and me especially) took a lot of hits because we refused to endorse during the primary.
I've been worried about how some of the commenters here would handle Obama's candidacy when they were positive during the primary that he was the last, great progressive hope, especially in the face of what appeared to be the DINO Clinton. I took a lot of abuse from commenters on this site when I posted that there was nothing particular about Obama's voting record that would indicate that he was anything other than a cautious, centrist politician.
John Amato and I have always known that even with Obama in the White House, we would have plenty to do on this site to fight media bias and push politicians to the left. I don't think that's changed, and we'll continue to challenge Obama as he moves towards November. For me, personally, c.atrox there are only three words that make me an Obama supporter without qualification: Supreme Court Nominations. There is no way that the type of justices nominated by Obama and McCain would be similar and we simply cannot afford more John Roberts or Samuel Alitos on the the court, which is McCain's stated goal.
Everything else will be a fight to push to the left, but the SCOTUS has to be considered.
Geeee! No, Geee Eeee!
Dave's obviously been doing just what his superiors want.
His reward? His own show.
Good puppy. Gooood Puhhh-peeee!
Hey Wise Fool, I meant to say mulch of the forest floor, not carpet. But I might as well have deviated to your norm for all the good the other use of my yap is doing anyone.
People are still bitching about Gregory and whining about Obama's imperfections as if they were normal Americans concerned about our mental recession. Meanwhile we let the media show how they will led us to another was through their acts of omission or commission. This time we won't be firing Marlboros.
I have no more glow for this soft core fascist bum.
I knew he wasn't ever going to be what he was advertised to be.
Look how he sold out on the FISA bill, no rule of law and SCREW the constitution.
He is the real BUSH 3rd term.
apeman @ 25:
My sentiments exactly.
I don't watch this idiot's show but when I am abused by a promo, I think of The Dance.
Good God, don't these people have any integrity? any?
Who listen to Gregory, Cut the channel when he comes on and his cooperate bosses will ditch him fast. we can control his stupidity that he is able to blow over the air ways.
I honestly think that the reason the MSM gives Sen. McCain a free pass on his various gaffes and lapses in judgment is that they realize that he's merely a "sacrificial lamb" offered up by the GOP. The GOP knows what Bush has done to them and knows they can't possibly win in November. So they put in the weakest candidate they could find, Sen. McCain, to run against the Democratic Party's nominee. This way, in four years, they can trot out some rising star with a good haircut and a phony smile who'll ask, "Are you better off now then four years ago?"
Its beyond stupid! 20 January, 2009-end of an error!
"Dances With War Criminals" will go far in the Reich wing tribal councils.
I mean for heaven's sake, some of the media swallowed and lead with McCain's lie about Phil Gramm not speaking for him and included his lame joke about making Dr. Phil ambassador to Belarus. Meanwhile he actually named Dr. Phil his ambassador to the Wall Street Journal and our noble press corps was too busy giggling out the crumbs and sprinkles from their "Straight Talk" snacktime to notice.
Hey I love Obama!!!
He is clearly going to do a GREAT JOB!!
I am GLOWING~~~~~~~!!
liberalNmoderation @ 122:
Yeah, right on Swampfox, U.S. forces have been able to evacuate in short order like in Saigon in '75. If it takes years to skeedaddle, then it's still an occupation no matter what ANYBODY says.
Attention trolls, conservatives, fundies and other assorted distorters of reality...
PRESIDENT Barack Obama
5 seat DemocratIC Party Majority in the Senate
2/3rd DemocratIC Party Majority in the House
Speak it, welcome it, embrace it.
It will happen.
incase any of you missed it we pulled kuwaits ass out of the fire in the first gulf war, it should be acessable to pull our troops and equipment out safely from these, and at a rapid pace, but were not interested in leaveing iraq or afganistan thats where the bucks are being made, obamas like nixon hes going to promiss you hes got a real plan on leaveing iraq, and nixon was was full of shit too, obamas not going to throw in the towel when we have all thoes bases built there and an embassy thats bigger then the vatican,
Hello Kitty @ 127:
And if Obama is "the real BUSH 3rd term" what the hell is McOld?
Nicole at 24
Good on you and John. I would have gone crazy by now if not for blogs like crooks and liars. I will add that all presidential candidates stink and BO is smelling a little ripe right now. I didn't think I was going to be disappointed until 1.21.09. Oh well. But I'll take BO over McStench of a Rotting Corpse Called America.
sorry, that's more graphic than usual. But your post above explains why quite nicely. I guess it's all in my head.
I have no glow for soft headed litter box filler. I'm talking to you trolling feline.
AT&T @ 133:
It is the radioactivity. Don't worry, though you have all the other rights of a person, there is one special one you have, you don't die.
Left&Left @ 137:
The second term of Vlad Tepes?
dosido @ 138:
I meant Nicole at 124. sigh. maybe Teh Crazy is here after all. carry on.
Mickxotic @ 134:
your right on there! its redicules to believe it takes yrs for a withdrawel, and if obamas going to take his orders from the generals on the ground who are only interested in getting more stars on thier caps were screwed!
The trolls who carp about Obama are easy to deal with. The carp who cannot see past the language of Obama and the substance of his policies because they get their knickers in a twist over anytime the Language Police screams foul are another matter. And, no, I am not making excuses for FISA. That was bad. Jefferson owned slaves and slept with one and still penned the greatest document we have.
Nicky @ 144:
and guess who just shat on that document!
flamethrower @ 74:
How do you figure? George Orwell was warning us about authoritarian fascists like Dennis and McCain...
1984 was a warning, not a guide book.
Nicky Says:
"I have no glow for soft headed litter box filler. I’m talking to you trolling feline."
Call me what you will - HE DID SIGN THE FUCKING BILL, NO?
Immunity for ILLEGAL, UNCONSTITUTIONAL SPYING on US...
Feel the glow?
Nicky @ 144:
Great point. Most of these single issue turncoats were just waiting at the starting blocks looking for any excuse to bolt. To even consider this asshole McShit proves that they were never with Obama in the first place.
I used to like Dave Gregory when he played guitar with XTC. Now after his little dance with Rove, and the jizz on his chin I cannot stand him.
Give Rachel Maddow a show, take this wipe away.
swampfox @ 145:
Yeah, just Obama voted on this bullshit bill. Dude just vote for McDog shit, OK? Keep your record perfect from the two previous Presidential elections.
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