FNS: Rick Davis Brags On McCain's Maverick-ness; Facts Be Damned
By Nicole Belle Saturday Aug 09, 2008 12:00pm
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Thanks to C&Ler Mugsy for suggesting this clip. It's amazing to me that if this is the best the McCain campaign has to offer in terms of promoting his candidacy, that Barack isn't ahead by double digits. And what does it say about the state of McCain's campaign when FOX News isn't even helping him out, but confronting him with *gasp* logic?
WALLACE: Does Senator McCain really believe that, that this country is worse off than we were four years ago?
DAVIS: Sure, all along the trail, John McCain campaigns around real people. He goes to town halls, he hears what they have to say to him. You don't have to be in very many town halls, Chris, to understand that people are pinched by the increase in gas prices, they're losing jobs because of some downturn in manufacturing, and the economy as a whole has been very hard on the American family. That's what John McCain's referring to. He doesn't have to go very far every day to find those kind of examples.[..]
WALLACE: Given that, if the country's worse off, isn't both the President and John McCain, aren't they both responsible?
Whoops! I don't think Davis wants to be backed into this particular corner. His response? Beyond lame.
DAVIS: Well, look, if you want to talk about history, then you can make all the cases you want to make.
History? His own ad asks if we're better off four years ago and then Davis doesn't want to go into the fact that McCain's voted FOR the policies that have put us in this position. So what's an uber- lobbyist turned campaign manager to do to deflect this cognitive dissonance? Reach into the bag and pull out the tried-and-true, "But he's such a Maverick™!" meme:
DAVIS: Let me remind you too, there's been never a bigger maverick in this town than John McCain. I mean, we talk about how many times you voted for Bush or against Bush. But you've been in this town a long time. Who is the biggest irritant to this administration for the last ten years or last eight years? John McCain. He sided with Democrats when he thought they were doing the right thing for the country, he sided with Republicans when he thought they were doing the right thing for the country. So you can say all you want about the record, but who is the one proven commodity in this town who's willing to put his country first and take strong positions, sometimes against the current administration or his own party in order to do what's right? And that's been McCain.
I don't want to shock those low information voters still supporting McCain at this point, but wouldn't the gist of this defense --considering the stipulation made by McCain's own campaign that we're worse off -- indicate REALLY poor judgment on McSame's part? Even Chris Wallace isn't buying it:
WALLACE: But I got to come back at you. If you say the country is worse off than it was four years ago, clearly, the President has to bear some of the responsibility and by his own record, by his own admission, John McCain voted with the President, last year 95% of the time.
Oops, there's that corner again. And Davis has no ammunition to get out:
DAVIS: Sure, but how many of these things actually had anything to do with the current economic conditions, or where we are in other places?
Crazy ill-prepared campaign hack say what? I'm telling you, if this is the best they have, the polls are pretty pathetic.
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WALLACE: Does Senator McCain really believe that, that this country is worse off than we were four years ago?
DAVIS: Sure, all along the trail, John McCain campaigns around real people. He goes to town halls, he hears what they have to say to him. You don't have to be in very many town halls, Chris, to understand that people are pinched by the increase in gas prices, they're losing jobs because of some downturn in manufacturing, and the economy as a whole has been very hard on the American family. That's what John McCain's referring to. He doesn't have to go very far every day to find those kind of examples.
WALLACE: Given that, I want you to respond to this clip from an Obama ad. Take a look.
[video of Obama Campaign ad]
McCain: The President and I agree on most issues. There was a recent study that showed I voted with the President over 90% of the time.
[end video]
WALLACE: In fact, Mr. Davis, Sen. McCain is understating it. Last year, he voted to support Bush legislation 95% of the time. Given that, if the country's worse off, isn't both the President and John McCain, aren't they both responsible?
DAVIS: Well, look, if you want to talk about history, then you can make all the cases you want to make.
WALLACE: You're talking about history, you're talking about the last four years.
DAVIS: Exactly. And what I'm talking about though right now is what the future holds, and who's got a plan to cut taxes and get the economy moving again. Because growth is the only way we're going to improve people's situation, whether it's in their family or small businesses. And so, John McCain has got a plan for growth. Let me remind you too, there's been never a bigger maverick in this town than John McCain. I mean, we talk about how many times you voted for Bush or against Bush. But you've been in this town a long time. Who is the biggest irritant to this administration for the last ten years or last eight years? John McCain. He sided with Democrats when he thought they were doing the right thing for the country, he sided with Republicans when he thought they were doing the right thing for the country. So you can say all you want about the record, but who is the one proven commodity in this town who's willing to put his country first and take strong positions, sometimes against the current administration or his own party in order to do what's right? And that's been McCain.
WALLACE: But I got to come back at you. If you say the country is worse off than it was four years ago, clearly, the President has to bear some of the responsibility and by his own record, by his own admission, John McCain voted with the President, last year 95% of the time.
DAVIS: Sure, but how many of these things actually had anything to do with the current economic conditions, or where we are in other places? Look, trade's a good example. John McCain voted with George Bush for trade, many times in the past and will support trade in the future. Democrats have opposed that. What's better for the economy, trade or no trade? It's very simple. It doesn't mean everything George Bush has done in the economy's been bad. But look, everybody's...a pox on everybody's houses. Why do you think the public has a low approval rating of the current administration and Congress? Because they've figured out that no one person is responsible for what we're doing. They're all at fault. And you have the one guy who's been screaming about spending, by Congress and trying to get George Bush to veto some of these measures. Who's the one guy who stood up in the middle of that crowd and said, "we got to fix this problem"? John McCain.
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I guess the 95% of the time he voted along party lines and with W is not as important as the 5% of the time he didn't vote or stepped away from party lines. That makes reichwingnuts mavericks? He is no different than W and he still hasn't told us what his plans are. All he does is attack Obama for being Obama. The McSame campaign lies and makes crap up.
Faux!
He's wearing Kristol Meth's "neocon beige" suit.
Yeah, I'd say the polls are pretty pathetic . Scewed, actually . Rigged, more precisely . Anybody under the age of forty has a cellphone. How many of these would vote for "the maverick" ?
"downturn in manufacturing"? Notice the "upturn" in manufacturing being celebrated in Bejing?
Don't believe the record. Don't believe your on eyes. Don't believe the facts laid out in front of you.
Believe the neocons.
Congress approval is lowet because they didn't impeach the chimp and because there are still a shit load of Republicans in congress. Get a Democratic president, increase the Democratic majority in both houses of congress to a working majority and watch those congressional polls shoot up once we can do America's agendas free from the shackles of the GOP.
Ruthless People @ 6
Amen.
Rick Davis... "And you have the one guy who’s been screaming about spending, by Congress and trying to get George Bush to veto some of these measures."
You Rick Davis, are a jackass and a liar. I suppose you mean by voting with Bush policy 95% of the time he was secretly trying to get a Bush veto.
It's Fox News, the neocon TV network. Facts are not important. Just tell the flock what they want to hear.
The polls are meant to throw us off so they can steal this next election. The media and the republicans have to throw everything at us that they can including the lie that all those Hillary supporters are going to vote for McCain. I wanted Hillary to win the nomination but since she didn't there's no way in hell that I'm going to vote for McCain not since there is so much at stake for us women. Supreme court appointments, birth control, pay equity, global warming, and the economy.
Just play it over & over in an endless loop:
YouTube - McCain: I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004, I enjoyed it!
"worse off that it was"
*snapping* gaa! what's with THAT? i see it more and more...
it's T H A N . worse off THAN it was...
and, it's would HAVE, should HAVE, could HAVE, might HAVE... contracted to 've... not OF...
ok? no offense, but yeesh...
my ears must be bleeding!!!
I think I just heard Fox make some sense@!! Did you hear it too?
The 5% that John McCain didn't vote with the president is most likely the many votes that McCain skipped.
Fox Executives Will Be Kicking Wallace's Butt
When the tapes at Fox news are reviewed, the executives will put a "hit" out on Wallace. You know and I know the Fox network is rooting for McSame to win. They will not win with this video. However, the Democrats can use it claiming that even conservative networks know the truth about McSame's support for this current administration. It's funny how the truth as a natural way of coming to the surface.
Joseph
Maverick my ass. USDA tainted beef. McCain has developed mad cow disease which explains his numerous memory losses. He's not a flip-flopper, he's the ultimate flimflam man.
Let's face it, McAint is more like description number one here from the American Heritage Dictionary. but when it comes to the #2 description ... well, he seems to be toeing the Bush line pretty much. Maybe he was a maverick before he opened up that vile of power and took a whiff. that stuff is mighty potent, gets the heart fluttering and the mind racing. Anyone who's ever done Amyl Nitrate knows what I speak of here.
Rick, I think you need to change your Butt-Plug, maybe a smaller size next time!
Peanut in Peoria @ 18:
Funny.
Joseph
I think Peanut in Peoria has it right about Rick the Gimp.
i'm of the thinking that the polls are so skewed because of the cell phone issue, given also the media bias that would figure in... but, i'm not comfortable enough with obama's inevitability to think we can overcome the gopers unless there is (say it with me):
OVERWHELMING DEMOCRATIC VOTER TURNOUT.
THEY CAN'T STEAL IT IF IT'S NOT CLOSE.
... it can't be even close...
"Crazy ill-prepared campaign hack say what?"
Americans love em a good lie. Especially to their face!
If Obama was white, he would be ahead 20 to 30 points in the polls. That would be my response to that inane, "the polls are close" as some kind of proof argument. Schaeffer kept pushing that close poll thing this morning on 'moon the nation' with rove.
Drill here! Drill now! Drill here! Drill now! Four legs good! Two legs bad!
It's a sad day in the annals of American TV journamalism when Chris Wallace is the one holding their feet to the fire.
I wouldn't get overconfident though. Remember, George W. Bush has actually been president for eight years. In the last 50 years, there have been only 16 years of democratic presidents. And McGramps is only trailing by two points.
Obviously, this tool has never heard the very sage advice, which, given the fact that he is working for McInsane he should know very well...'when you are in a deep hole, stop digging.!' He can't see the hole is filling up with s--t, created by his own and his candidate's bull. And to be shown up by a Faux News clown like Wallace? Oh very, very, poor indeed. If John McInsane were wise he would pack it in right now and go home to Arizona and avoid any further embarrassment.
katy @ 12:
Katy, I'm typing these transcripts as I'm following the audio. I'm going to make mistakes, because we have to move fast. But instead of having a meltdown, why don't you try letting the site monitors know through their email and they'll let me know.
Eventually the word maverick will have to be redefined to include the following:
3. A politician who can look you in the eye and call you his friend and tell you what he thinks you want to hear. Also, one who has no idea what he’s talking about. As in ‘What a maverick. Wink, wink, nod, nod.’
Murkins have such a low approval rating for congress. They forget one little fact:
They were ELECTED!!
CitizenX @ 23:
oh, and that too...
kerplunk @ 22:
The money shot. Rick gets off.
"Oooohhh. Ahhhh. Ohhh YEAH, Rick, BABY."
iraqhusseinconcilable @ 4:
Among my students, quite a lot more than you'd think.
There are also quite a few who don't like either candidate because" they're both politicians." Youthful idealism is a wonderful thing to harness, but it is also naive, and quickly turns to premature cynicism at the first sign of the candidate's clay feet.
And the polls may or may not be skewed (though they've proven pretty reliable in the past) but the cellphone issue is nonsense. Are there really that many more than there were 4 years ago? If you're looking for a straw to grab at, that's a poor choice.
As noted above, the only thing you can count on is a strong Obama turnout. If it's close, they'll steal it. If it's 'sort of' close (anything but a landslide) they'll scream voter fraud, and they'll keep screaming it throughout Obama's single term, making it impossible for him to govern.
The only thing that has a chance at turing this around is a wipeout, a landslide, something on the level of Brian Mulroney's defeat in Canada in the 80s. For those unfamiliar with Canadian politics, Mulroney was leader of Canada's Progressive Conservative party when they defeated the long-ruling Liberal Party of Canada. Initially seen as a 'new broom' reformer, Mulroney's conservative brand of politics (which would place in the right wing of the democratic party here) embrace of globalism and free trade deals (which cost Canada hundreds of thousands of jobs) and overly cosy relationship with Ronald Reagan (the two used to sing "When Irish Eyes are Smiling" at state dinners) cost him the next election and reduced his massive ruling majority to just two seats in the Canadian Parliament, prompting all kinds of jabs about holding the PC's next convention in a phone booth, or comparing it to a sports car (because they both have two seats). The PC's have never fully recovered from this drubbing, remaining a fringe party with no real power to this day.
That's what needs to happen to Republicans next November. A 'squeeker" just won't git it.
Nicole Belle @ 26:
sorry, nicole... it wasn't personal... and not just about this piece, as i said, "more and more"...
call it a Public Service Announcement... er, Breakdown...
sorry, no offense meant... as i said... thanks nicole!
katy @ 21:
We also need to debunk Gallup and Rasmussen daily tracking polls. The Republicans, with the help of "RealClear Politics site, are using these two polls to lower Barack Obama's numbers as needed on a daily bases. In doing so, they are making the average low. I will make the prediction tomorrow's Gallup tracking poll will be a 1 point lead for Obama or tied. However, if another pollster releases a poll showing Obama with a 5 point lead or better, Rasmussen tracking poll will put McSame ahead. You can count on it.
Joseph
Another thing they claim.
Watching Faux news Sunday with the guest Rick Davis, he claims to be reaching out to democrat voters. If they were really reaching out they would be correctly be calling them democratic voters. They cannot get away from trying to get the rat in there.
CitizenX @ 23:
no disrespect you may know more about this than i do....
i keep hearing obama should ahead right now by 20-30
points...my question is..is there any reference for that "fact"....math model. obama's perceived inability may be race......i don't know for sure but i feel it's he inexperience strategy that was used against him in the dem. primaries and now during the presidential campaign....that has shown up on some polls. it's easy to see this is mccain's attack theme. it's an effective
negative linguistic framing technique. i denounced early
on the i.d. "rock star" and "celebrity"....the public believes and is being told the past and it's experiences predict the future. obama is fighting for his life...his opponent is much more/bigger than mccain....it's bush
cheney,wall street,oil, military industrial complex,many
who are in the positive with the bush tax cuts. something that i believe some people don't understand is that obama hasn't been in washington long...to me this is of benefit...why?..he hasn't been bought..money
and influence rules washington...to me he hasn't been
tainted nearly as much...the members on the hill with seniority often have a checkered/money persuassion past. too much money..and k-street lobbyists are the problem in washington
Polls in any election year should be disregarded, but in a year with an African-American candidate on the ballot, they must be disregarded thoroughly. Call me a pessimist if you choose, but I will never underestimate the degree of racism remaining in America. I've seen it first hand. And in case anybody is curious...I'm white and still relatively affluent.
CitizenX @ 23:
You mean if he were white and republican. The polls are manipulated by demographics and the questions are designed to get the response they want.
Ron @ 34:
I've never been able to understand why democratic polititians don't just quietly but firmly correct these people every time they do that. It may be lost on northerners, but here in the south "calling someone out of their name" is a major dis, especially when done repeatedly. Letting someone get away with it like that makes you look like their bitch.
Joseph @ 33:
Republicans hate reality, and once again as in Nov 06, Nov 08 will be an even greater surprise with a landslide.
It must be getting really really cold in hell, because I heard less McCain pandering from this FOX anchor than I did from most of the other talking head shows today. Will wonders never cease?
Facts? When do facts matter in politics?
WALLACE: You’re talking about history, you’re talking about the last four years.
DAVIS: Exactly. And what I’m talking about though right now is what the future holds, and who’s got a plan to cut taxes and get the economy moving again. Because growth is the only way we’re going to improve people’s situation, whether it’s in their family or small businesses.
Doesn't Obama have a tax cut planned as well? Oh wait!!, tax cuts for the lower or middle class citizens don't count do they?
davis is such a selfish greedy scumbag
pissed off patricia @ 40:
I had the same observation. What is up? Maybe they will use today's footage to make the claim they are "fair and balanced."
Joseph
General_Rennenkampf @ 41:
Now, more than ever in my life.
iraqhusseinconcilable @ 4:
What about folks my age(62) who don't have house phones?Seniors and younger folks who only have cells probably give Obama 10-12 more points then McCrazy! GO BARACK!That's why I laugh at ALL polls!
Anita Break @ 10:
If there are still HRC supporters who will vote for McCrazy, go right ahead, you won't make any dent in Barack's campaign and you certainly won't be missed by the rest of us!
But...McDainbramage voted with Bush 95% of the time...
That's just history....you can use "history" to make any point you want. McDainbramage is a maverick...why, look at the last ten years...McDainbramage has been shrub's worst nightmare.
testing....testing....hello....hello, yes Rick, this is your brain trying to get in touch with your mouth...we can't seem to make a conection...we'll keep trying...over and out.
Kewl, thanks for the recognition. :)
mcgramps is less of a maverick then he is a gelding.
When I read and hear the McCain-as-maverick tripe, here's what comes to mind:
Anyone remember this cheap Mustang-wannabe, whose competition was the Chevy Vega? Within a year of buying a new Maverick, the piece of junk was already rusting out and having engine trouble. Within two years, it was sitting on cement blocks in someone's driveway.
I've got to say, it really is immensely gratifying when one of those right wing kooks goes on Fox expecting a free pass and gets actual... what's the word... facts thrown in their face. It pains me that I'm actually congratulating someone in the fourth estate for doing their job, but that wasn't bad.
Have a good day.
John Cage
Constituent and Ron,
I have no proof of course that if Obama was white, he would be ahead in the polls. I do have experience being black and can apply a little common sense to the equation.
For every white person that will admit they will not vote for a black person for President, you can bet there are 10 others that won't admit it. I guess the most direct "evidence" is the "I'm not prejudiced but" (insert situation here) example.
Look at the situation. You have an obviously corrupt administration and policies that have disillusioned all but the most fervent kool-aid drinkers in the Republican Party. There is a barely tolerable candidate on their ticket running against a wildly popular, charismatic, intelligent candidate. People are desperate for change, even Republicans. 72% of Americans feel the country is on the wrong track.
Now.. even with all the gains in equal rights and tolerance from the last 50 years, many, many voters still grew up in a time when "colored only" was the norm. There are even young people that have learned those lessons from parents, friends and role models.
Now, people puzzle about why Obama isn't farther ahead in the polls. It certainly is a puzzler isn't it. Is it his policies? Probably not. Is it his affairs, his religion, his family values? Probably not.
Applying Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation is probably correct. The simplest explanation as to why he is not faurther ahead in the polls is that he is black, pure and simple.
If anyone can dispute that, then fine. I would love to have some kind of explanation as I am sure the pollsters and talking heads would too.
With all due respect this dude should [deleted--do not advocate violence on this site], we live in a nation of whiners and cowards.
Silly Americans.
Percentage Vote against Republican Party : Term
1-4%: Independent Thinker
5-9%: Maverick
10-14%: Democratic Lieberman
15-24%: A-Hole
25-34%: Cheney Quail Target
35-44%: Ross Perot's Love Child
45-54%: Anti-American Bastard
55%+: F'in Democratic Pinko, latte sipping, hemp smoking communist
DAVIS: Well, look, if you want to talk about history, then you can make all the cases you want to make.
OMG
These words came out of the man's mouth and somehow you know it's going to help McCain
Oh CitX, didn't you hear? Obama's being black is an advantage?
Right, and hand wrapped candy comes out my ass.
I believe, seevee, that CitX's point was the opposite of how you interpreted it.
I watched a lot of this interview and you could almost see how frustrated Wallace was with this hacks talking points. You get the inclination Wallace wants to be a journalist but due to the Fox overlords he knows his role and can't push too much. Its sad we have no hosts who really want to push these campaign reps on their candidates message and not let them get away with just trashing the other candidate with false premises.
Canadian Paul @ 57:
No, CitX and I are on the same exact page. I was being sarcastic.
56 seevee
I'm already so tired of this election. If you have questions and doubts about Hillary you're a sexist, if you have questions and doubts about Obama you're a racist, and if you have questions and doubts about mccain you're not only an ageist, but also hate America and her troops.
Citizen X is correct. Race is a huge factor in this election. And yet the media would try to convince us that being black is some kind of advantage tool that Obama can use. In their world black truly is white
I'm worse off than I was ten minutes ago. This crowd of incompetent fascists has got to go. And John the Straight Talkin' Saint from Maverickville is one of them.
DC @ 58:
Maybe Davis' explanations are so out there that even Wallace is feeling insulted by the idea that he is expected to buy this bullshit.
ysbaddaden @ 60:
I hear ya. But, buck up, I think McBaindramage is going down big time come November.
seevee @ 56:
I caught the sarcasm.
I also thought the "advantage" thing from the media was the most bizarre concept I had heard in a long time.
McCain Aide's Georgian Ties Become an Issue
By Zachary A. Goldfarb
The presidential campaign veered Sunday into a discussion about the escalating conflict between Georgia and Russia, with a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama suggesting that Sen. John McCain's criticism of Russia stems from his campaign's connections to Georgian political leadership.
"His campaign is run by lobbyists that represent Georgia and other countries," New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D) said on ABC's "This Week," a clear reference to Randy Scheunemann, McCain's foreign policy adviser, who has been a registered lobbyist in Washington for the Tbilisi government.
That drew a sharp response from Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R), reported to be under consideration as a McCain running mate. He said it was wrong for the Obama campaign to focus on any ties between members of the McCain campaign and the Georgian government.
[...]
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/10/mccain_aides_georgian_ties_bec.html
The only thing growing in this country is the tumor on this moron salesman's brain.
On the maverick meme.
Nobody likes a maverick in their organization. What's the Japanese saying: The nail that sticks up gets hammered down.
mcsame would never survive as a Senator if he was a maverick.
Mavericks are generally loners that don't fit in socially.
The maverick voted with W 95% of the time. Wow, now that's thinking outside the box. What a free thinker, this McGramps.
Just out there trend setting. Blazing a new trail that only a leader like McGramps can do. Paving the way to....stay on track for Armageddon.
McArmageddonhorny
Tengrain @ Mock, Paper, Scissors might wanna front page MM'sB, if yer interested...
You know where ta find me ;-}
let's just called this paid liar what he is, FOS.
The republicans have nothing to bring to the debate other than lies and insults.
Even if McSame was/is a maverick how will this solve the problems the Party of Bush/McCain (R) created?
These people know no shame.
"...who is the one proven commodity in this town who’s willing to put his country first and take strong positions, sometimes against the current administration or his own party in order to do what’s right?"
I'd say Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul. Actual "mavericks"
Just when was the last time this "maverick" voted in the Senate? Try APRIL 2, 2008. McBush has not even bothered to show up to vote for 4 MONTHS. He's a "maverick" alright but one that does not want his vote to be known. He can support this bill or that bill but then he doesn't vote. John, where are you when you should be in the Senate?
What a dense "spin-meister".
"who is for trade, and who is against trade"? Does that mean giving away American jobs to corporations overseas so they can make HUGE profits by paying $0.35 an hour instead of $15 an hour here? Does that mean allowing crap from China to come in freely and compete with American made products at prices that are a fraction of the American made prices (and quality)?
Give me a break. Can the sheeple really be this f*cking stupid??
These morons play right to the brain dead, simple, non-logic types who want to support the "grand old party" ideas....that have only the shell of what they once held. They are supporting corporate greed, privatization of all social services for a "lower price" at a MUCH lower level of service.
God, we are F*CKED!! Wake up America. PLEASE, withdraw your heads from your asses...and QUICKLY!!
We are #1 with morons...ONLY!
Thanks to Mugsy for suffering through an hour of that tripe so I didn't have to.
Did Wallace just grow balls?
McCain is a maverick. As far as I'm aware, he's the first person to campaign for President while suffering from alzheimers.
Ferengi @ 50:
A truly fine piece of American automobilia indeed.
At least the in the Vega, GM had the sense to put in a lightweight aluminum engine for (gasp!) FUEL SAVINGS. Too bad they didn't put a little steel in sleeves for the cylinders, however.
Sorry, I don't need someone like Rick Davis "reaching out" to me in a bathroom stall.
seevee @ 59:
My apologies.
The God in the Buy-bull I read would curse these self-serving liars with nasty plagues. And look! Not so much as a boil between them.
Who would have thought that "God's party" would do so much to disprove that particular gentleman's existence?
If stepping out of line 5% of the time with the GOP president is consider being a maverick! Than what are you if you step out 10% of the time?
A liberal?
5% Irritant! That is so Hilarious!
It's still amazing to me that any working class American can vote Republican. What do you call this phenomena? Republicans are a big business party, period! From what I've seen, there is no place in this party for working class people. Yet the Republican party still manages to play the middle class to get their vote. Amazing
A maverick is a non-conformist, a rebel. That term cannot possibly be applied to McCain, who voted with Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% of the time in 2007.
ya know @ 83:
Simple-- Joe and Joan Six-Pack think that if they kiss the asses of those in charge of the White Corporate Power Structure (by voting for their candidates), they'll somehow get the keys to the Magic Kingdom. Doesn't work that way, of course, but I still drink with many of these folk...
They love to drag the Congress into this stuff as if the Democrats actually wielded any real power.
I wish the media would address this crap and make it clear that the Republicans with their big fat rubber stamp are still basically running the show:the same show that should have been closed in 2004.
Never thought I'd be saying this, but kudos to Chris Wallace for acting like a real journalist and keeping his finger on the issue that Davis tried to wriggle away from..
DAVIS: "Let me remind you too, there’s been never a bigger maverick in this town than John McCain."
Hmmm...
Never a bigger maverick in DC? I'm sure this guys spinnin' in his grave:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_Maverick
brujo
Anita Break @ 14:
Nobody voted less than McCain the last two years. The few times he did show up, he was in lock step with Bush.
64 seevee Says: ysbaddaden @ 60:
56 seevee
I’m already so tired of this election. If you have questions and doubts about Hillary you’re a sexist, if you have questions and doubts about Obama you’re a racist, and if you have questions and doubts about mccain you’re not only an ageist, but also hate America and her troops.
I hear ya. But, buck up, I think McBaindramage is going down big time come November.
Gray Laddy Down?
Sorry, this has to be the funniest thing ever.
"What’s better for the economy, trade or no trade? "
That's one of the most asinine things I've ever heard.
ysbaddaden @ 90:
Rather like another Davis named Nancy, when she lived in Hollywood in the 50s.
Did I miss it or has anyone mentioned the rather large oil pipeline that was bombed this episode?
rdnkjw @ 93:
"Episode"?
The little Davis' reply to Wallace over better off and McCain as the rubberstamp-eding Maverick or the gambling on the best odds Bret Maverick I liked was when Davis said,
" Look, whats better trade or no trade ". Now that is ignoring the kind of trade and who prospers and who is left hanging out to dry in trade.
I don't know anyone that is against trade..! It is the republican/Freidman brand of trade for one that has rendered havoc on American economy for most.
The GOP trys to place Abortion in such a way that is like framing it into a looking glass that you see in but not out of.
"if your not for banning abortion, your for murdering children". I don't know of anybody that is for abortion. Do you know of anyone that got up this morning and set their goals out to have an abortion?
Conservative Limbaugh framers of strawmen that don't talk back. That is why FOX and right wing is propped up by the fight. They can espouse propaganda without much challenge.
So when I see Wallace somewhat challenge Davis it isn't much because like Davis, He still filabustered and was provided the free air time to propagate his candidates imaginary truth.
And that is what it was about.
*plunk* *plunk*
..that sound you just heard was the sound of chris wallace's testicles finally dropping. it wasn't very loud, because they apparently aren't very big, but it's a start.
Ruthless People @ 6:
And today's winner is........... RP @ 6.
This really should be made into a bumper sticker slogan to go with on-air ads!
katy @ 66:
So, in other words, McCain is also implicated in helping start a war?
Morning Joe was right; "Less Jobs, More War".
from the book of rove.....always project yourself as a forward thinker with too much to accomplish than to look backwards. the past 8 years are full of examples....
"history will judge my presidency"
"what is important is how we conduct the war going forward, and not how we got into the war in the first place"
etc. etc.
the sad thing has been the fact that apparently it has been an effective ploy.
even the speaker of the house has used it in defence of her position of "impeachment is off the table".
Poor little Neocons don't even realize they are being screwed.
If you are a Neocon and you are not ALSO a Jew, then you are being used by the true Neocons who are all very wealthy Jews.
If you are not in the Temple with the true Neocons, then you don't have a clue about what's really going on.
Non-Jewish Neocons are just being paid lip service by their Jewish masters!
This post is in noway anti-Jewish, it is strictly anti-Neocon!
And Rick Davis is who? (or is that a whom?).
SKUNK SPIT, RICK DAVIS!! Is this guy for real?
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