Sarah Palin and Issues of Pregnancy, Abortion, Abstinence, HIV.
By bluegal Tuesday Sep 02, 2008 6:20pm
This blog deliberately did not cover the internet rumors that have absorbed so many this weekend. None of the children of any political candidate should be held under vicious and unfounded media scrutiny.
That Sarah Palin's campaign blamed liberal bloggers for "forcing her" to announce the pregnancy of her 17-year-old daughter is another atrocious lie following her "bridge to nowhere" funding flip-flop. The rumor that Palin's fifth pregnancy was "well-disguised" came directly from a fellow Alaska Republican, State Senate President Lyda Green.
A great many young people in our country become pregnant or worse, contract a sexually transmitted disease, every day. We have nothing to say about the young Palin and her unfortunate situation.
We have a great deal to say about the Republican Party and its POLICIES regarding sex education, reproductive choice, HIV prevention, and let's not forget their complete hypocrisy regarding homosexuality and civil rights. Sarah Palin's stands on these ISSUES are contrary to feminism, the health of our young people, and everyday common sense.
Is it a surprise to anyone that Sarah Palin is an advocate of abstinence-only programs, and opposed sex education in Alaska's schools?
The New Republic reports that earlier this year Palin "used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live."
Again, this is not about Sarah Palin's daughter. Although it would be if she were homeless, Governor.
It is about a government that has failed to make responsible decisions regarding public health policy, and the completely irresponsible positions the Republican Party takes on those issues.
Sarah Palin should be ashamed, because she is a Republican.
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Sarah Palin SCARES PEOPLE...
Frank Luntz [Republican Strategist] did some amazing analysis of undecided voters and their reactions to Palin. It wasnt good and this was BEFORE things began to break loose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brw5d_p8EU4
IOKIYAR what else is there to say??
I feel sorry for that poor kid though. I wonder how her parents took the news? I bet they weren't nearly as cool as the parents on Juno.
I read the other day that not only is she against sex education, but she doesn't believe in contraceptives, either. She thinks the Rhythm Method is the only thing one should use for contraception.
I will look for the link and if I find it, post it down steam. (It may be from AmericaBlog, not sure yet.)
SCARY, scary stuff!!
Again?!?!?!?!!? WHY is Bristol holding Sarahs baby? Every photo is the same.
the republicans are not ashamed of their atrocities
of ignorance and you will never hear an apology
from them for any abuse their ideology will
cause their constituents.
The Republican Party wants to force women (and even girls) to have babies when they become pregnant--however they become pregnant, even if by rape or incest--and then wants to wash their hands of them afterward. It's unconscionable to not increase support for new mothers who do not have insurance or adequate resources to care for the babies the Republicans want to compel them to have.
Sen. MIKE GRAVEL On Palin. Very interesting.
http://www.counterpunch.org/
Ah, it's her church...I knew I read it before.
If you haven't heard about it, her church makes Pastor Wright look like mainstream.
You can read it here, or watch here and here.
I also read that the Enquirer has a story on her sleeping with her hubby's partner. Take that one with a grain of salt, but that said... (Edwards?)....
Nice tongue lashing bluegal. Well deserved.
I think the line-item veto is the nail in the coffin for her campaign. She crossed it out and initialed to reduce a govn't program that probably does the most $ for $ in helping infants get the right start so that they can have the same opportunities affoarded to everyone. Don't punish the kids for the parents mistake, and to be someone that opposes abortion choice they should be even more supportive of programs that prevent abortions by providing a safe option for poor teen mothers to give their babies a decent life. This VP pick is a horrible choice and a horrible human being.
I wonder if the pretending and outright lying will get more strenuous then Tuesday night, and we'll be witnessing a Pinocchio look-alike contest.
It was AmericaBlog who said that if these clowns get into office, we are not only going to have to worry about Roe v. Wade, but Griswold v. Connecticut.
Griswold was the case that allowed people to use contraceptives.
This is some scary shit!
Correct: the daughter's pregnancy shouldn't be part of the political campaign. BUT, that cuts both ways. McCain is wrong to have flown out the unmarried, teenage father-to-be to stand on the stage at the convention with the rest of their families.
What a silly person.
Abstinance education is good but if it's the only education it's stupid.
We're living in the information age.
It's better that students learn the basics at school than on the internet or from Larry Flint.
the story about her labor and flights she took is still weird, if it's not true, it shows what kind of mother she really is to put a delivery at risk. she returned to work 3 days later and now she's running all over with an infant? this old feminist says, what kind of mother is that? also, just wondering if down's syndrome and fetal alcohol syndrome babies look similar. after seeing the little mother to be sucking down jim beam, it's a real possibility.
let's say "liberal bloggers" did spread the rumor that sarah palin lied about being the mother of baby #5 . . . does that justify throwing her own daughter, a minor, under the bus for political gain?
so much for republican family values!
Sarah Palin's views are a threat to her own family.
since he's an expert on such matters, someone should ask bill bennett what are the odds of palin's daughter and levi's marriage to last 1 year.
Sara Palin is the deal McCain made with the Council for National Policy to turn out the militant fundamentalist Christian vote. She is a hard core Pentecostal even more likely to toe the corpo-christo cult line than McCain when she becomes president, which she will if the Republicans can steal another presidential election.
Palin has now used 3 of her 5 children to bolster her 'narrative.' That's OK under normal circumstances, except two of those children have been put at risk as a result. Bristol's life is being turned upside-down on the national stage. And we learn from Jon Solz that the story of Track Palin being deployed on 9/11/08 is either an embellishment or a violation of military policy.
And if I hear Joe Scarborough blame Daily Kos one more time for Palin's own problems defining herself...
What happened to Rick Santorum's book on women staying home with their children?
What happened to the sanctity of marriage as a constitutional amendment?
Why are so few conservatives, like Brownback and Schafly (sp) upset with this working mom and premarital sex?
I'm sick of the lot of them.
groucho @ 15:
Not at all. I hear OBGYNs say that Down's is only attributable to chromosome # 26. It is a genetic disease. I have seen Down's fetuses, and they have the Down's 'face' from week 12.
Here we go again. "Personal responsibility" conservatives blaming any and everyone for what they brought upon themselves.
National Enquirer says Palin had an affair with her husband's business partner. (Remember, it was the Enquirer that broke the news of John Edwards' affair.)
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry441303...?
The Sarah Palin Church (God Give Us a Pipeline) Video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k
Sarah Palin should be ashamed, because she is a Republican.
Republicans have no shame.
Once Sarah is nominated, won't she and Joe Biden release their medical records? I would expect some details about delivering a baby at age 44...
redcat @ 18:
Bill Bennett was on TV quoting Oscar Wilde yesterday. Imagine that.
why ?
how can she be a creationist, then, in that alaska news article about her pregnancy, say she'd like to escort a neanderthal back to it's cave? with all her hypocrisy and flip-flops, she really is McCain's soulmate.
i think she is also the true christian candidate because she is a god-send to the democrats.
Oh yeah. After 18 years of the Republibots going after Hillary Clinton (and women in general) in the most despicable ways imaginable suddenly Dems are the bad guys, womanizers, and sexists.
Hilarious
So it's coming out that Sarah Palin is just another evangelical wackjob. This should chase away any sensible independents and "Reagan Democrats" from the McCain-Palin ticket.
Sarah Palin has Pator problems.
This woman is a wolf in sheeps clothing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0SFERgx6JE
http://wasillabible.org/sermons.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123...
A great many young people in our country become pregnant or worse, contract a sexually transmitted disease, every day?
There are plenty of std's that I would rather have than an unwanted pregnancy! At least you can get treatment for them easier than you can an abortion.
wmcq @ 26:
I strongly recommend Steevo's post about this 5th pregnancy over at TPM Cafe. He is an OB and used to work at Providence Alaska Medical Center in Anchorage.
lets try again
is there a reason why not now !
You catching this with GOP pundits yet?
Interviewer: What experience does she have to be VP?
GOP Pundit: Have you seen how attractive she is?
Max H @ 1:
Actually, if you watch that, the people's logical process is even more frightening. When I see things like this, I am always amazed that these people have had the brains to know not to step in front of a moving bus.
Church Lady is nuts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k84m2orSOaM&feature=related
I am watching the Repug convention live, and I cannot believe that those people in the audience are not 'in on the scam'. They can't possibly believe the lie after lies they are hearing. It has to be a scam because anyone with half a brain can see that it is all BS.
They are espousing smaller government, lower taxes for the middle class, drilling that will solve all the world's economic woes and and cure us from future terrorism. They are parading hispanics, blacks, and people that used to be poor. It is pathetic.
They had their chance, and they screwed us and world enough.
MsJoanne @ 3:
According to RESEARCH2000 she is against birth control even married couples.
Nation of breeders.
Vote Republican!
We'll make your sons bleed -
We'll make your daughters breed!
easygrip @ 29:
Yeah, it's 2008, the New Millennium, and the Reschmucks still keep dragging humanity back to the neanderthal age. No! Your not going to succeed! Your not going to change! There's going to be no future! Your going to suffer hardship and enjoy it!
the Democratic Party is a lot like a box of chocolates; you're never sure where the nuts are - whereas the Republican Party is a lot like a chocolate fudge sundae, they tend to put the biggest nuts right on top
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I would never hit someone with a hockey stick, unless of course, we were playing hockey. Then I swing at anything that moves.
'Holy' Joe Scarborough and Mika were just on MSNBC. Mika is absolutely slobbering all over Palin. She can't get enough of her. According to Mika, Palin will win over EVERYONE with her speech tonight. Mika loves her because she is a working mother and Mika needs someone she can relate to.
BTW shouldn't Palin's minister be getting the same kind of scrutiny as Obama's minister did. I don't think Rev. Wright can hold a candle to Palin's minister! Didn't the repugs go ballistic over Wright? But Palin's minister is OK????? The repugs are sure keeping this quiet and playing it low key. Someone needs to do some investigating and getting the word out. Sick and tired of all the BS being one-sided.
Holy shit! Brokaw is saying there is a 'sisterhood building' around Palin. Give me a f**king break!
Sorry, Bluegal, it's ALL about her daughter, if she's lying, and it's ALL about Sarah's son/grandson with Down Syndrome. Palin and the GOP keep saying isn't it great that they made the right "CHOICE" to keep the baby. In other words, they embrace the fact that they had a CHOICE.
Family is NOT off limits, I don't care what Barack says. It's fair game to learn all there is to know about the man or woman who could destroy the earth with a quick decision.
David Brooks. This is the best PBS can offer?
Sheesh
RonDumsfeld @ 13:
Now hold on one second here on that one.
For 3 days we were treated to Super Women Hockey PTA Mother of 5 stories and how she was going to bring family values back to American because of her stance on the issues. Now that her family is a train wreck we are not suppose to talk about it?
"Is it a surprise to anyone that Sarah Palin is an advocate of abstinence-only programs, and opposed sex education in Alaska’s schools? "
Most opponents of school-based sex education believe that sex education is a job for a child's parents. Based on the facts in this case, it would appear that Palin believes in no sex education, period. Her idea doesn't seem to be working very well for her.
casper46 @ 4:
While Palin apparently failed in her idea of sex education, having her pregnant daughter care for the infant that Mommy is too busy to care for will at least give the daughter a heads-up as to what her life is now going to be like at such a young age. It's too bad Palin would rather be a "role model" for the nation than to properly raise and care for her own family.
Unfortunately, 10 years in emergency services leads me to believe that too many voters will view her as a proper role model come November 4.
MsJoanne @ 8:
Brickner also described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God's "judgment of unbelief" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity.
I think that quote (in Palin's presence at church) pales anything that Jeremiah Wright said.
That Palin-in-church video is scary.
Man, she's simply unhinged.
liberAL @ 43:
It's because Palin and her minister are white and not "exotic" like Rev. Wright and Obama.
L.A. Confidential @ 45:
Oh wait they want a society of absolute ignoramuses, drooling imbeciles and soulless technocrats who lack the sense to oppose them that's obviously why Brooks won out over intelligence.
And Chuck Todd is saying a lot of women are rooting for Palin because she is a working mother and there are a lot of working mothers out there!! Chuck Todd makes me sick any more. Where is he coming from? He's been on TV way too much and it has gone to his head and he thinks he has all the answers. What a blow-hard.
Church Lady Palin is a threat to every American who isn't a Christofascist.
Hey, I told you right here late last year this election was going to be insane.
Unfortunately, I was correct.
groucho @ 15:
She drove right past the biggest hospital in Alaska to give birth in one of the smallest? That hospital did not have a record of Trig's birth on their Birth Record before it was taken off line. The Gov of your state gives birth in your hospital and you "forgot" to add it?
OMG, the Michigan delegation is all wearing matching hockey jerseys... yuch
BigIslandDave @ 49:
But she's soo hot!!!
Urk; I just threw up in my mouth a little.
The Republicans have quite quickly and effectively put a coat of teflon on Palin, and McCain's teflon seems to remain intact. Therefore, the Democrats must basically ignore McCain and Palin, and constantly remind the country which party has run government from the White House 20 out of the last 28 years, not to mention the Republican majorities they had in both the House and Senate for some of that time. If they can get away with running as the Washington "outsiders", then there is absolutely no hope left for this democracy.
L.A. Confidential @ 55:
I also told you McCain was going to be the candidate.
Unfortunately, I was correct again.
If anyone knows of a sane planet to go to. Let me know.
Dhalgren @ 20:
My sister lives in Alaska. Tracker was petty theft and a vandal. He destroyed with 3 other boys school busses that closed the school for 2 days. He was offered jail time or join the military. That will come out also. So you won't be surprised.
governor palin cut more than half of the amount budgeted for special education last year.
why does she hate children with learning disabilities so much?
CMINCA @ 27:
Levi has a baby with another girl. The babies named is Conner. He wants no part of Bristol.
Shootgun!!!!!!!!!!
"Red Meat"
MSM's pet buzzword of the week.
Why don't they just use "dead flesh" to add some flare.
"Well she obviously tossed them some dead flesh tonight Jim to get them excited"
if obama is smart, and we know he is, then when the convention is over and the gloves come off he will simply ignore palin altogether. all he has to do is keep hitting mcsame on policy - with the added benifit of john now wholy (holy) tied to the anti-choice, anti-birthcontrol, flat-earth theocrats.
Mick Piobr @ 58:
Unhinged religious loon Ugly Betty, only to Branch Davidian types could find her hot. She's scary.
I think the public is *finally* catching on to the "Do as I say, not as I do" GOP ethic. It remains to be seen whether that ethic varies at all from John & Jane Sixpacks.
Kinda like Levi's parents. I mean where the Hell are they? Can you imagine when the GOPbots descended into Armpit Alaska telling them that Levi will be marrying Ellie Mae, stat? Must have blown their minds. I hope there was a generous wedding gift at least...
OT (but disturbing)
Hey, just when everything is going SO great for us, I just read that Obama is going on O'Reilly's show Thursday night.
WHY????? Is the Dem self-destructiveness rearing its ugly head yet again???
Letterman: "Sarah Palin is a vice president who likes guns. What could go wrong there?"
harley @ 36:
........said the GOP pundit as he sauntered off defiantly dragging his knuckles behind him.
Ruthless People @ 69:
...vice presidential candidate....I misquoted and just scared myself.
Can we all agree that people on the left and on the right all want to see the abortion number at 0? If so why would Palin use a line item veto to kill a bill that would provide pregnant mothers with a place to stay? I think such measures would prevent abortions, not unplanned pregnancies...
e.c. @ 65:
He did that with Hillary (ignored her and started talking directly about McCain) and that all mosts backfired.
I hope they are not stupid enough to do that again.
I generally agree completely that children should not be fair game. I am having trouble with Palin though. It is still too early to tell if people are going after the daughter or the mother. I think all of this has been such a shock that people have yet to be able to articulate their thoughts well. Did people make the daughter the story, or did Palin force the daughter to be the story? I still have issues with a mother who puts up own ambitions ahead of her children. Surely Palin knew that her daughter's pregnancy would be a story, yet she accepted the offer to be a candidate. Based on past elections, Palin knew that she would be pushing her child into the spotlight and yet she did it without thinking twice. You now had two teenagers who are faced with an unexpected child and they get to deal with it on the national stage. This is not the fault of the teenagers, but the fault of the parents.
As far as I am concerned, Palin put power ahead of her own family. The children are victims, but only so because of Palin's choices.
harley @ 40:
That was the crux of Griswold v. Connecticut, married couples.
groucho @ 15:
it's especially weird that she would fly while experiencing signs of labor, given that this was baby #5 . . . subsequent babies can pop out pretty quickly
also, i understand that she was leaking amniotic fluid, which would have put her at risk for infection . . . she should have seen a doctor, in texas, without delay
her behavior was so reckless that, either she's a dimwit or she really is lying about the baby being hers
Ruthless People @ 69:
I understand she is far more accurate than the current VP
I'm sure if the Obama's had a pregnant teenage daughter it would be strictly off limits for the republicans to talk about.
Or the media, for that matter.
theWalrus @ 68:
He has no choice. It will only add fuel to the Wing Nut arsenal if he doesn't.
"SEE! He's afraid to go on OReilly!" More reactive Bullsh*t like that.
ashton @ 74:
I just got to ask. Why is she making her 5 month old daughter hump her daughter around all over the place. Can't the Super Hockey Mother of 5 Husband carry the baby? He is the most distance father/husband I have ever seen.
People, stop kidding yourself. She's going to get up there tonight and speak about God, guns, and gays. There will be no mention of any of her "family" issues. And you know what? To 30% of all voters, this is the ONLY INFORMATION THEY WILL GET ON Sarah Palin. She is the perfect candidate for brainwashed evangelicals and W supporters. She really is not a negative to this race.
Phone banks, volunteer, donate, and canvas. Keep up the work!
Dagmar Herzog, author of Sex in Crisis: The New Sexual Revolution and the Future of American Politics will be on Your Call radio tomorrow from 11 am - noon PST.
Herzog argues that the left needs to wake up when it comes to sex and sexuality. The GOP wants to reclassify the pill as abortion. Where is the outrage?
Frybread @ 31:
The fact that she's an extremist wingnut, a western Taliban, an Alaskan SEPERATIST (aka-traitor), an abuser of executive power, and a hypocrite about porkbarrel spending has been known since the beginning. However, it has been curiously knocked out of the news cycle by a FLOOD of scurrilous attacks on Palin's daughter that have very little to do with her VP candidacy (other than the obvious Republican hypocrisy about being morally superior to the Dems), and which does nothing except make the Democrats look like gutter snipes. I'm wondering why we keep falling into these political rat traps. Maybe we're not as smart as we keep telling each other we are.
harley @ 80:
kometes @ 81:
She is going to knock it out of the park. Hannity and Limbaugh and the MSM will go into full SHE IS THE ONE frenzy. Just what America needs right now.
Her own family is a freaking train wreck but the minor problems of a country of 300M that is on the verge of economic collapse, in 2 wars, Georgia is on verge of getting us into WWIII with Russia but she fit it in the duties of VP somewhere. Don't you worry your heads.
L.A. Confidential @ 84:
harley @ 80:
That is my other issue with Palin. This lovely, devoted mother of five is never seen holding her youngest child. The daughter appears to be more nanny than sister. She is perhaps quite qualified to be a mother at 17. The only time that you see Palin with the baby is when a photo-op comes along. She is then finally holding her child. Furthermore, she uses a newborn infant as a political prop. She is on the cover of three magazines showing her youngest child, literally holding it out. It is hard to say that the children are off limits when even the mother agrees to exploit them at every turn.
Sorry, I wholeheartedly disagree that this politician's children are off-limits. Palin is a biblethumper extraordinare who will force your children to put themselves at risk despite the very real evidence in her own family that these policies social don't work.
Folks, there is only one way to fight a religious nut, and its using their own religion against them. It is the only thing they understand. It is the only way to make an impression on a closed mind.
We've all seen the right use every tactic in the book to win. If you think for a moment that they wouldn't use a pregnant underage child as a pawn in the culture wars, you haven't been paying attention.
all this is a great distraction from the flaws of McKeatingFive.
harley @ 61:
Ha! Sounds like friends of mine in H.S. They were given the same offer. The thing is, no ones mother was then selected to be a very small heartbeat away from the Presidency.
The last line should read ...
Sarah Palin should be ashamed, but because she is a Republican, she won't be.
theWalrus @ 68:
I think it's fascinating timing since McCain will be speaking that night.
That said, I think I'll catch it on YouTube. Fuck O'Reilly and his ratings. (Although, giving him ratings for one night...nah.)
Finally they got this on youtube. You need to pimp this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg&eurl=
John - can you get this into a thread??????????? Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
harley @ 93:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/03/peggy-noonan-and-mike-murphys-o...
harley @ 93:
Two conservative commentators on MSNBC, after they're off the air, say what they really think about the veep choice.
The hell with respecting her family. She'd never respect mine. Nothing is off limits when dealing with Republican trash. Full stop.
Pacifus @ 94:
Sorry. I was waiting for it on youtube and did not notice. Thank you.
jitter @ 78:
EXACTLY!!!!!!
harley @ 95:
As tweety matthews would say .... HAH!
Thanks guys for finding that bit of hot mic and posting it.
we need to , as you say, PIMP THIS!!
Silly me. I don’t care about Sarah’s daughter. So I’m politically naïve – I can live with it.
I do care about the 27 Million dollars worth of earmarks given to a town of less than 7,000 people while Sarah was Mayor. That’s about $4,000 for every resident. Whoo boy – that’s a chunk of change for Wasilla. It’s also interesting that this “maverick” who’s outside of Washington politics got Steven Sliver (former chief-of-staff for the now fellow-infamous-Alaskan Ted Stevens) to make the lobbyists connections. Smooth move you outsider you…
Also interesting is the Alaska Budget, which in FY 2009 spends about $12,000 for every resident (a 27% increase while Sarah has been Gov). Yo! That’s the kind of spending we need in Washington right now!
Babies? I like babies.
Palin: I’d Oppose Abortion Even if My Daughter’s Raped By a Moose
The moment she went public over her 17 year old child's pregnancy, and broadcast loudly and proudly that her daughter had Made A Choice To Keep This child and was proud Her Daughters Decision, well then, the woman who cut state funding of education and life-skills development programs for unmarried pregnant women brought upon herself and her family whatever she deserves.
Sure, kids are sacred -until The Mothers use them as a shield for their hurtful policies and heinous views.
...Can anyone imagine what it's gonna be like if "Bristol" has a "miscarriage"?
I don't remember McCain and the Loony Crew giving Chelsea much of a break (let a lone a chance of getting a boyfriend -or pregnant).
can we get into her preacher and into one of the church's invited guests....the director of jews for jesus?
palin, like all wingnut christians loves israel...but hates jews
like coulter...she thinks that we can be perfected....and if we arent, we will be killed and sent to hell
J² @ 88:
here is the thing
we dont have to attack her kids
this loving mother was good enough to throw the whole bunch under the bus
so now, all the internet sites dedicated to hacking myspace pages and posting pics and vids...are doing just that
and we are all privy to the dirty underbelly of christian wasilla
with all the teen sex, drugs and alcohol that go along with it
trust me, by the time the election comes around, there will be at least one sex tape posted
I just wonder how old Bristol was when she got pregnant and what the laws are in Alaska regarding statutory rape? Could the previously reluctant father now be eager to marry to avoid prosecution or a lifetime label as a sexual predator? If so, who applied the pressure? Just wondering out loud
Pacifus @ 72:
Someone needs to ask Sarah Palin why she hid her pregnancy last year. Why hide it?
casper46 @ 4:
She's hiding her tummy and being portrayed as a loving mom. It's all carefully staged.
ashton @ 74:
Agreed. I've said it before. Palin threw her daughter and her boyfriend under the bus for her own gain. Really incredibly selfish and sad.
The only policy that has been consistent with over the few years of her political career is abstinence only education and that is the one thing that we can point directly to her life and family and see it's failure. Ironic, ain't it.
Really though, she should be against abstinence only education before she was for it.
We have nothing to say about the young Palin and her unfortunate situation.
Why is it unfortunate? Granted circumstances her mother knowingly thrust upon her daughter may make it unfortunate in the long run but on its own, nothing inherently wrong with her daughter being pregnant.
That being said, lets indeed focus on the Mrs. Palin and how her views on social issues.
I have one question and her daughter need not even be mentioned: Mrs. Palin, do you believe abstinence-only sex-education is an effective program that is worth tax-payer money to fund?
See? No matter how she answers she'd hurt. If she says yes, everyone knows her 17 year-old un-married daughter is pregnant and it belies her public position. If she says no, well then that just sticks it to the the family-values voters.
The basis for this story is inaccurate.
See the whole story regarding funding for the Covenant House. The Post biased this from the get go.
Assuming she has an 80% approval rating, means 20% don't approve or don't care.
Why doesn't someone claim to have had an affair with Sarah and sue for paternity of child #5 - unless of couse DNA can also determine who the mother is.
What would the ramnifications be, if any?
She Opposed sex education in Alaska? That's probably why her daughter got pregnany because she wasn't getting the education she needed about sex. The news that her daughter is preganant...DON'T blame the bloggers.
Don't forget to remind everyone that the McCain campaign dragged the girl and her high school boyfriend into the spotlight in St. Paul. That didn't need to happen.
The choice of Palin has totally backfired on McCain -- it has completely polarized this election, and energized the democratic base far more than it has the evangelicals.
The only people who questioned if Sarah Palin can be a mother and vice president are religious right Republicans.
If these fools start crying, I'm going to puke.
Hmmm....I wonder what she knows about Russian, Middle Eastern and Chinese history and diplomacy. Oh and Latin American. I wonder what she knows about free trade and the World Bank. Oh I forgot Africa.
I wonder what she knows about green house gasses and renewable energy. Education, health care, infrastructure, dying cities, agriculture, elderly, immigration, minorities. On and on and on.
I'm listening to Palin's disingenuous snide cutesy-condescending speech right now, after listening to Giuliani, and I'm going to bed before I wreak havoc on the tv or vomit on the keyboard.
Leave the daughter out of it. There's enough wrong with Palin to fill a billion blogs.
Drop the reference to "Pro Life" it is "Anti Choice" Repeat after me Anti Choice, Anti Choice, Anti Choice. Get it. The republicans want to keep women barefoot and pregnant.
Heh, I call bullshit. Bristol is gonna be mommy a second time around. Not one doctor/nurse/eyewitness will come forward and say yes SARAH PALIN was pregnant with Trig? By the way, if young Levi is going to be participating in a shotgun wedding courtesy of the Republican party who is going to offer the boy a job? From what I've read he didn't graduate from high school. Will Bristol and Levi be America's first welfare recipients in the White House?
I just watched Palin's speech tonight and you Dems defintiely have something to worry about. She was dynamite. This lady has got the "it" every politician wishes he/she had and she has it in spades. I would never wantto cross her. Baracuda likely fits. I think she could slice, dice and filet anyone who crosses her. Biden has to be peeing down his leg. I don't know what kind of president she would be but this lady has fangs and they are soft, sweet and inviting razors - lazer powered! Jump back momma - this is going to hurt.
One more thing. You nasty types should really keep it up. Nothing makes conservative Republicans work harder than the vicious belittling you are so famous for. Thanks for the support. Don't bother sending a check - your gutter behavior is sufficient.
There is a segment of the American voting public who are on the fence about whether to vote for a black man or give into their bias' and vote against him. I know we all had hoped that was behind us and I am sure it is diminishing, publicly at least. But in the privacy of the voting booth all the negative black stereotype images of millions of Americans, generated in their youth in the sixties and seventies, kind of stick their ugly head up. Images of Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Cynthia McKinney and others of dubious reputation flash across their minds if just for a second.
The image of the anarchists in St. Paul burning, beating, smashing store fronts, cursing, screaming and abusing old people and police is linked to Barack. Like it or not, the Dems are tagged with these people and a lot of moderate voters are affected by it. Some ignore it. Some don't. But that old prejudice of white folks just keeps on coming back. Link the wanton irresponsibility of your protesters and those old thoughts and feelings get revived, in the voting booth, just for a second.
You Obama supporters are deluding yourselves if think this election is about issues. It isn’t. They are just the window dressing. They just give people something to talk about so they don’t have to talk about the real issues. The real issue is personal character. It is a shame Obama is linked so tightly to the unsavory black past but he is. He can’t escape it. He had little to do with it and could likely do the job as president adequately. But I don’t think he will get the chance because his character is so tightly linked to Jesse Jackson and all those others I spoke about, in the voting booth, just for a second.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for this respectful and well-articulated post! I especially appreciate you pointing out that these rumors were not stirred up by liberal bloggers but generated by a conservative from Palin's own state. This explains why the Bristol Palin pregnancy news was such a surprise to me on Monday: I didn't see a single mention of the previous rumor on the blogs that I frequent, which definitely made me wonder to which blogs the media were referring.
Just imagine for 5 seconds if one of Obamas daughters were old enough and they were in this situation.
Oh, the media and the right wing would be ready to cruxify the Obamas and the Democrats! The outrage would be deafening!!!
RK @ 107:
Thats not all shes hiding. Anyone with a brain(excludes republicans) can tell those glasses she wears is nothing more than a mask.
There is a lot of hidden dirt with this woman.
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So I'm not allowed to point out that a Political Candidates' minor daughter undermines that Political Candidates' Party position on teenage sex and abstinence by simply pointing and laughing?
... NOT!
It's not her daughters fault she didn't abstain from premarital sex.
It's her mother's Political Party's fault for pushing for absurd expectations.
It's unfortunate that Bristol breaks the Republican code of ethics...
... But that ethic apple falls not far from mom's tree... NO?
Maybe Bristol's untimely pregnancy will shake the Republican Party and force them to revisit the abstinence issue.
... Maybe!
All I can say is that it's a good thing the subject isn't about STD's or HIV... NO?
Then the GOP would be in auto recovery mode.
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JLF @ 125:
Racist much?
She's a rightwing authoritarian and a religious zealot. A bad combination, which is notable for the ability to self-justify any act through the easy, habitual use of self-serving, reflexive lies backed up by severely compartmentalized thinking. Dishonesty is so extreme as to render her, and people like her, effectively insane. There is little hope that anything can ever be brought to bear that would have the power to break through the construct of lies that she takes as being reality.
The woman is insane..estranged from reality.
The post at 130 asks if this is a racist issue. It absolutely is!! Ask any black person. White people do not yet know how to deal with blacks. When you mix the whacko side of the Democrat party with a black Democrat candidate you will see it manifest in the voting booth. Obama knows this and every thinking American, I believe, will acknowledge it too. That is why a large number of fence sitting voters will look at what you people write above as an attack by a black man on a white woman. If Obama looses this election it will be in part do to the way this white woman was treated in the press and on the blogs. You can see it already. Obama never got the kind of scrutiny that Palin will get. In fact the press is lining up to make mountains out of molehills. The Republicans will hold up the double standard and cry foul and it will have an impact. This will be a hyper polarized election and the comments like we see in this blog fuel the Republican argument.
Palin's unwed minor daughter is having her baby (second?) on government health insurance.
harley @ 47:
That's my point. If you want the kids out of the news, don't put them on the stage with you. Conversely, if you're going to profile them, then don't complain that the media and others are talking about them.
And, what's up with their names (Track, Trig, Bristol, Willow, Piper?) Are the Palins some type of crypto-hippies?
Sarah Palin is NOT pro-life, but is ANTI-CHOICE--she doesn't want other women, other parents to be able to choose how to deal with the results of teenagers having unprotected sex, so long as SHE can make whatever choice SHE wants, expecting that she can either cover up the truth about her choice, or have a built-in cheering squad to support whatever choice she made. Must be nice for her. Stinks for the rest of us, but nice for her.
Problem is, her own Republican cheering squad thinks, behind her back, that she's a bad parent who ought to be ashamed, not proud, that her teenaged daughter has so little self respect, so little control, or is so ignorant, that she didn't know how to avoid getting knocked up. And NO, I'm not impressed she wants to marry her baby daddy; that's the only thing that's even sadder than her soon-to-be-ever childhood.
The less money there is for "them" the more money there is for "us". Hind brain thinkers also vote.
The conservatives are unbelievable, their President is a former cocaine addict, their defacto leader Limbaugh is a prescription drug addict and big time racist and finally their VP candidate is a woman and mother that is not wise/smart enough to instill values in her teenage daughter concerning teenage sex and pregnancy (or is this considered a plus for right wing cons with the abortion issue.) As a father of 4 teenagers why would I consider this a person qualified to run our Nation, but if you are a con it means you never have to admit a mistake.
The religious should not be allowed to hold any public office or, in fact, any government job. I'm sorry, but insane people should not be allowed to hold public office. Look at what Christian terrorism and Christian fascism has turned the United States in to. The whole world suffers because of these insane religious nutjobs.
So poetic, ladies and gentlemen we now have the poster child of abstinence-only sex education programs, anti-choice, government mandated outcome. Sit back and watch the fireworks from a safe distance. Or perhaps it can be presumed that the Democratic party should be able to have easy work of pointing out the sheer, stupifying hypocracy of the whole situation.
FG @ 6:
Is there any truth to the rumor that Bristol Palin aborted another pregnancy when she was 15?
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